Johnny could win 10 challenges but that still won't make him less of a loser and **** and his wins have nothing to do with why I dislike him. Some challenges he's tolerable, some challenges he's not.
[QUOTE=TeamLandon;391311]I don't think that's the "thing". CT and Aneesa have done the same amount as Johnny has and they both are on this upcoming season with Johnny. Cara and Sarah are tied for doing 7 challenges in a row, haven't taken a break yet. And Cara is on this upcoming season with Johnny. But he's the one who gets ******* on because "He's done so many". No it's because he's done so many, always makes it to the end and most likely wins.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. Johnny gets a lot of flack because he's very annoying and mean to the other cast members. His personality is very polarizing and considering how many people hate him (both among the audience and potential cast members) it's just really irritating to me that MTV keeps asking him back. The fact that he keeps making it to the end only irritates me in that it means he's been there the entire season annoying the heck out of a lot of people. I don't mind people coming back multiple seasons so long as they're interesting and not complete ***hats.
[QUOTE=challengeama;391523]i heard leroy say in an interview that if ct goes buckwild like he did in previous challenges he wouldn't be allowed back anymore.[/QUOTE]
A recent one? because i have heard Leroy in two interviews say something about this. On rivals 1 in the Wes situation, Leroy said CT made sure to not hit him because he(ct) felt he wouldn't be able to come back if he was thrown off another show on his first return back so he had to make a good impression. Hence why he yelled at him all night and didn't hit him. He felt CT didn't want to risk being banned so he held back even though he really wanted to.
Also on Rivals 2, Leroy said that he wishes he didn't talk his friend CT down in his fight with Marlon, because CT was ready to go fight him on the deck whether Marlon wanted to or not (i doubt Marlon did based on his "fight" with Knight aka circling him only). But Leroy's point was if he didn't talk CT down, CT probably goes home, and who knows him/Ty could have lasted longer. He was pretty much joking when he said that. I think it was in Bus drivers route's interview which is online with Leroy regarding Rivals 2. He jokingly said next time he will encourage CT to go hit him or just get out of his way so Leroy can have a better chance to win. They are friends in real life though.
He still is in the grey area on questionable behavior violence wise since his return on rivals 1. Exes was his only good behavior show really. But he isn't punching so i guess nowadays they don't care. Who knows the way violence on rw is going they may allow it and than who would want to be on a challenge with him?
[QUOTE=jojorules;391525]A recent one? because i have heard Leroy in two interviews say something about this. On rivals 1 in the Wes situation, Leroy said CT made sure to not hit him because he(ct) felt he wouldn't be able to come back if he was thrown off another show on his first return back so he had to make a good impression. Hence why he yelled at him all night and didn't hit him. He felt CT didn't want to risk being banned so he held back even though he really wanted to.
Also on Rivals 2, Leroy said that he wishes he didn't talk his friend CT down in his fight with Marlon, because CT was ready to go fight him on the deck whether Marlon wanted to or not (i doubt Marlon did based on his "fight" with Knight aka circling him only). But Leroy's point was if he didn't talk CT down, CT probably goes home, and who knows him/Ty could have lasted longer. He was pretty much joking when he said that. I think it was in Bus drivers route's interview which is online with Leroy regarding Rivals 2. He jokingly said next time he will encourage CT to go hit him or just get out of his way so Leroy can have a better chance to win. They are friends in real life though.
He still is in the grey area on questionable behavior violence wise since his return on rivals 1. Exes was his only good behavior show really. But he isn't punching so i guess nowadays they don't care. Who knows the way violence on rw is going they may allow it and than who would want to be on a challenge with him?[/QUOTE]
The shown and not shown footage of the CT wes fight is comedy gold. It starts the time showing at 11( i think) and goes to like 4:30. Some of my favorite CT quotes from that rant.
I can run faster, longer, and I'm stronger. Only problem is I got 140 pound chicken wing with me.
I'ma take money out of your pocket, all day, everyday, off camera, every way
All I do is smash heads bro!
If I go home, everybody's getting hurt!
Die! Die! Die! Mother fer (not positive after that) I'm coming, so keep running (maybe?)
[QUOTE=27502;391528]The shown and not shown footage of the CT wes fight is comedy gold. It starts the time showing at 11( i think) and goes to like 4:30. Some of my favorite CT quotes from that rant.
I can run faster, longer, and I'm stronger. Only problem is I got 140 pound chicken wing with me.
I'ma take money out of your pocket, all day, everyday, off camera, every way
All I do is smash heads bro!
If I go home, everybody's getting hurt!
Die! Die! Die! Mother fer (not positive after that) I'm coming, so keep running (maybe?)[/QUOTE]
lol I think he also said Im going to eat your face or something like that, and the next day wes talked to adam and said "he said he was going to eat me" lol.
CT is still a hothead but I dont think he is going to snap again like he did on the duel 2.
CT was kind of a hypocrite in that fight on Rivals I. He acted like a freaking crybaby after Wes told him that he and Kenny were going to try and send him and Adam into an elimination round. What a lot of people don't remember is that CT told Kenny and Wes the same exact thing in either episode 1 or 2. He said that he'd do everything in his power to send them home if they didn't win each challenge, and Kenny and Wes didn't really give a ****. They basically said, "whatever, man." So it's okay for you to tell another team that you're going to try and send them home, but if another team says that to you, they're being out-of-line? Please.
[QUOTE=TexasFight88;391531]CT was kind of a hypocrite in that fight on Rivals I. He acted like a freaking crybaby after Wes told him that he and Kenny were going to try and send him and Adam into an elimination round. What a lot of people don't remember is that CT told Kenny and Wes the same exact thing in either episode 1 or 2. He said that he'd do everything in his power to send them home if they didn't win each challenge, and Kenny and Wes didn't really give a ****. They basically said, "whatever, man." So it's okay for you to tell another team that you're going to try and send them home, but if another team says that to you, they're being out-of-line? Please.[/QUOTE]
Agree 100%. What I also found funny about that whole exchange was on Derrick's podcast with CT and Kenny which was recorded nearly right before they filmed Rivals, CT was badgering Kenny the whole time, asking him if he'd have his back if they did another show together and Kenny said yes and that all it took was a phone call...then CT says that he's gunning for him right off the bat.
I really think that if CT had gone to JEK, especially since they're all friends with Adam, and said, hey let's all group together, we won't step on each other's toes and then at the final elimination round we'll just figure it out, things probably would've run a lot smoother and maybe he would've made the final. But instead he just starts that crap up right away and can't take it when it comes back at him.
JEk was never going to align with CT/Adam only 3 teams made the final. Adam was last out of the 4 in that friendship everyone knew it, the only one who was gullible enough to let them play mind games with him was Adam believing all the stuff JEK was feeding him about CT and how not to trust him. When in reality they were cheering when Adam fell or messed up..Also making fun of him about Jen and how he has confidence now that he "finally" got a girl like he is a loser. What great friends huh?...Evan/Johnny/Wes also said "no way can we face CT in a final" so they obviously were intimidated by him and so they wouldn't risk having him there if they could help it.
So episode 1 ct may have thought he had a chance to politic them against kenny/wes, when in reality he had no chance. They had the numbers, CT was an underdog that challenge no other way to put it. THey won as many as they could, Kenny/WEs took the easy W when they could rather than call out CT as they claimed they would, and they lucked out that adam/ct dq'ed the last challenge for them to have a chance to get him out. I think CT freaked out becuase Wes had no pull that challenge but his alliance did, and ct knew he was screwed yet the guy who had no pull was talking smack to him out of that alliance. Plus he has a history with Wes.
As Ev stated in the reuion, they all were scared/intimidated of CT during rivals 1, it's obvious based on how they played it avoiding him when they could have called him out etc. The aftershow with Evan/CT CT even said i wish we all could have said let's do our best see how the chips fall, but you all were scared, Evan basically said that's right we wanted you out, so that proves they would not have aligned with him. It's not even defending him, how cna you defend a 9 hour rant. Just saying unless they kept winning, CT/Adam were going to be targeted regardless. He just hated Wes, and Wes talked crap and if he wasn't with Kenny he probably would have been in CT's position as well
[QUOTE=boncat23;391536]true, I really do see Leroy and CT being close friends. But they live far away with CT in Boston and Leroy in Vegas. It's cool tho[/QUOTE]
Well to quote leroy, "we really don't hang out a lot or keep in touch as much as i do with other people, but when we do it's like we just we just saw each other and is all love" I paraphrased a bit but it's pretty much exact from that bus drives route interview..look it up if you want Leroy is awesome i have chatted with him before he is a cool guy...Leroy also is legit friends with Johnny B, Brandon, Tyrie, not sure who else. I think his whole Vegas cast minus Adam...FYI rivals 2 leroy busdrivers route on youtube should do it
[QUOTE=JL81790;391534]Agree 100%. What I also found funny about that whole exchange was on Derrick's podcast with CT and Kenny which was recorded nearly right before they filmed Rivals, CT was badgering Kenny the whole time, asking him if he'd have his back if they did another show together and Kenny said yes and that all it took was a phone call...then CT says that he's gunning for him right off the bat.
I really think that if CT had gone to JEK, especially since they're all friends with Adam, and said, hey let's all group together, we won't step on each other's toes and then at the final elimination round we'll just figure it out, things probably would've run a lot smoother and maybe he would've made the final. But instead he just starts that crap up right away and can't take it when it comes back at him.[/QUOTE]
They would never align with him, dont you remember how long it took Kenny to say yes? CT was like Im not getting an answer gentlemen then Kenny was like yea! And right off the bat they didnt plan on aligning with him, the 1st night and probably before then they all has alliances and CT doesnt fit in there. Kenny could blame it on Wes and say it was Wes that didnt want CT in but lets get real it was JEK, Adam is their friend and they wanted nothing to do with him, they didnt want CT/Adam to win cause they thought they had no chance and they also had this hate for CT and were trying to convince Adam that CT would somehow betray his own partner. It would be interesting to see what would happen if CT/Adam did make it to the final, I would guess Kenny/Wes might still win cause I think Wes might be better than Adam(just based off the final elimination) but that would be a way more interesting final.
[QUOTE=Squad;391546]Here is where their whole alliance ****ed up... They let Wes take control... They should've just let Evan run everything like he always do.[/QUOTE]
Wouldn't have changed much. Evan still would have lost the elimination. You would think he would have learned his lesson after the duel. I guess he thought Adam would hold CT back?
[QUOTE=27502;391549]Wouldn't have changed much. Evan still would have lost the elimination. You would think he would have learned his lesson after the duel. I guess he thought Adam would hold CT back?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, looking back on it, I don't get why Kenny/Wes and Johnny/Tyler were all that scared of Adam/CT. They were both more balanced teams than the latter, and by a pretty decent margin. Yes, CT was a solid athlete, but it's not like Adam was a stellar athlete and had won 2-3 Challenges. Even if Adam/CT had beaten Johnny/Tyler in the elimination round, I don't think they would have won the final Challenge anyway. It likely would have been Kenny and Wes. Then again, I suppose anything could have been possible as long as Adam or CT didn't choke when locating the key, even if Kenny/Wes had the head start, which they probably would have.
Regardless, it's interesting looking back on how everything shook out. Kenny/Wes did perform the best out of all the male teams on day 1 of the final, and they did get screwed with a short head start, but all season long the most consistent team was Johnny/Tyler.
[QUOTE=TexasFight88;391555]Yeah, looking back on it, I don't get why Kenny/Wes and Johnny/Tyler were all that scared of Adam/CT. They were both more balanced teams than the latter, and by a pretty decent margin. Yes, CT was a solid athlete, but it's not like Adam was a stellar athlete and had won 2-3 Challenges. Even if Adam/CT had beaten Johnny/Tyler in the elimination round, I don't think they would have won the final Challenge anyway. It likely would have been Kenny and Wes. Then again, I suppose anything could have been possible as long as Adam or CT didn't choke when locating the key, even if Kenny/Wes had the head start, which they probably would have.
Regardless, it's interesting looking back on how everything shook out. Kenny/Wes did perform the best out of all the male teams on day 1 of the final, and they did get screwed with a short head start, but all season long the most consistent team was Johnny/Tyler.[/QUOTE]
Well as much as Tyler denied he was scared of CT, Evan and Wes said flat out on the after show it was because of his strength. They were showing a clip where 2 or 3 guys were putting this huge swan on Mandi's bed and CT just lifts it by himself in their words "like it was a kettle bell". CT was easily the best athlete on Rivals and I do not think Adam would be bad in the finals. He is more of a liability in elimination rounds were size and strength play a bigger factor.
I don't know if they would have won the final. However, Evan said on multiple occasions, on the Duel and rivals, he would not win a final if CT was there.
[QUOTE=Squad;391546]Here is where their whole alliance ****ed up... They let Wes take control... They should've just let Evan run everything like he always do.[/QUOTE]
Youre aware that Evan wanted to quit right? I dont know how it ****ed up since they all made the final. And if you ask Kenny, he would say it was himself that was taking control,what I noticed was that Wes was always doing the talking, like when they wanted the girls to pick CT 1st for the d-day thing, Wes was telling them to do it, probably cause Ev would listen to him over the other 3, then when the girls wanted to vote camila/Theresa they also had to get Wes to talk to the guys.And for some reason Evan got mad at paula and said you werent the one to come and talk to me about it Wes did.I would say hes more of the middle man. Thats what him and Ev did on fm, she comes up with a plan and gets him to convince ppl to do it.
However it was cause of him that they didnt go against CT/Adam at the end and they showed him telling Mike to vote in Brandon/Ty against them instead of CT, Mike/Leroy should have just voted CT in against them right then and there, if Wes/Kenny lost that could have really changed the game.
I guess Jasmine told Thomas/Jamie from Real World Ex-plosion the new format on an interview he stated that the new format/theme was really cool in his opinion and that he would love to do something similar to that without spoling anything.
[QUOTE=PinkRose;391571]I have heard some stuff, but it seems a little too crazy...So I am not 100% sure.[/QUOTE]
Crazy can be good, right? Or is it confusing too?
[QUOTE=Squad;391546]Here is where their whole alliance ****ed up... They let Wes take control... They should've just let Evan run everything like he always do.[/QUOTE]
It's funny how Wes was running around like he was all big and in charge of things on Rivals only to end up on the bottom of everyone's list on Exes the very next season.
[QUOTE=jojorules;391537]Well to quote leroy, "we really don't hang out a lot or keep in touch as much as i do with other people, but when we do it's like we just we just saw each other and is all love" I paraphrased a bit but it's pretty much exact from that bus drives route interview..look it up if you want Leroy is awesome i have chatted with him before he is a cool guy...Leroy also is legit friends with Johnny B, Brandon, Tyrie, not sure who else. I think his whole Vegas cast minus Adam...FYI rivals 2 leroy busdrivers route on youtube should do it[/QUOTE]
Thanks!
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