The Challenge: Free Agents - Speculation (Spoilers)

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[QUOTE=Lola88;389518]I'm hoping to se Jenna, Jenny, Marie, Averey, Joi, Ashley K, Heather, Mckenzie, Ashlee, and Sahar on the next challenge for he newer girls ;)[/QUOTE] Next season cast needs to be a mix between Battle of The Exes & Battle of The Seasons. Old School, New School, and regulars who bring drama mix! Then a good individual format! A team format with that mix would be okay if it was something random (team wise) along the lines of Cuttroat. The only thing is, all the new school/rookies would get picked off first! With an individual format anything can kinda go! Like last place male/female goes in and then the group picks the opponent like on Rivals 2.
** Johnny Bananas is the only male who will not face an elimination this season* (NON SHOCKING) **LATEST BUZZ** - It was suspected that Nany made the final four - Who took out CT? alot of people asked. I gave em the name Zach. Weird but i've been getting buzzed that another name could be the one who took out CT. -Leroy
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;389504]Dustin has never been in a physical elimination, Jordan has and won so what makes you think Dustin would easily win[/QUOTE] Well Jordan didn't win by being physical superior to anyone. Ty blew right through him every round. If it hadn't been for Marlon, they would've loss. I think it'd be a toss up but I do think Jordan's more athletic than Dustin.
It wasn't Jordan's job to hold back TY, it was Marlons. Jordan's was to get to the bell
[QUOTE=boncat23;389531]** Johnny Bananas is the only male who will not face an elimination this season* (NON SHOCKING) **LATEST BUZZ** - It was suspected that Nany made the final four - Who took out CT? alot of people asked. I gave em the name Zach. Weird but i've been getting buzzed that another name could be the one who took out CT. -Leroy[/QUOTE] This is why I want a Duel! Because someone would call him out!
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;389534]It wasn't Jordan's job to hold back TY, it was Marlons. Jordan's was to get to the bell[/QUOTE] Well you're using that elimination as support to Jordan's physicality. I'm just saying that's not a really good example. He was quick, sure, but it doesn't say much for his physical strength.
But it is a good example because as shown with CJ & Zach hall brawl can be won by people that are faster as opposed to bigger. We are talking about Dustin vs Jordan in hall brawl so how is it not a good example?
[QUOTE=Livewitpeace;389535]This is why I want a Duel! Because someone would call him out![/QUOTE] Yes! I think Banana's wouldn't stand a chance in a duel, without his girls and friends to keep him out he'd be called out a ton.
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;389537]But it is a good example because as shown with CJ & Zach hall brawl can be won by people that are faster as opposed to bigger. We are talking about Dustin vs Jordan in hall brawl so how is it not a good example?[/QUOTE] Because you said "Jordan went into a physical elimination and won" as in he has an upper hand on Dustin physically. I was just clarifying that he did not win by being physically stronger. I don't remember if you mentioned being faster or not in that post but this is what I was referencing.
[QUOTE=CTRoyLeeFAN;389538]Yes! I think Banana's wouldn't stand a chance in a duel, without his girls and friends to keep him out he'd be called out a ton.[/QUOTE] From the looks of it, it seems as though Johnny came into this challenge with more enemies than allies. So I give him a ton of credit if he never sets foot in an elimination because of politics. No Tyler, Paula, Kenny, Evan, Jenn, and Camila eliminated first. The guy is good.
[QUOTE=TeamLandon;389541]Because you said "Jordan went into a physical elimination and won" as in he has an upper hand on Dustin physically. I was just clarifying that he did not win by being physically stronger. I don't remember if you mentioned being faster or not in that post but this is what I was referencing.[/QUOTE] I said that because hall brawl and last chance are the same thing so Jordan already showed us he can win at hall brawl
[QUOTE=CTRoyLeeFAN;389538]Yes! I think Banana's wouldn't stand a chance in a duel, without his girls and friends to keep him out he'd be called out a ton.[/QUOTE] Agreed. That's why I really wanted to see a Duel format actually.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;389545]Agreed. That's why I really wanted to see a Duel format actually.[/QUOTE] I think you'd be disappointed. I doubt guys would call out Johnny B. before Jordan, Dustin, Brandon, Chet, and whoever else... and if they did, he's better than 90% of this cast at every type of elimination game(endurance, mental, physical,) they could think of imo.
[QUOTE=TeamLandon;389548]I think you'd be disappointed. I doubt guys would call out Johnny B. before Jordan, Dustin, Brandon, Chet, and whoever else... and if they did, he's better than 90% of this cast at every type of elimination game(endurance, mental, physical,) they could think of imo.[/QUOTE] With this cast, Zach would have easily called him out with a Duel format. It's way too difficult to say 90% because of a lot of these new kids are unproven, especially with solo elimination rounds.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;389551]With this cast, Zach would have easily called him out with a Duel format. It's way too difficult to say 90% because of a lot of these new kids are unproven, especially with solo elimination rounds.[/QUOTE] What's a solo elimination? It's been so long since we've seen one, that I think I've forgotten what they are.
There may be 12 People in total on the Ex-Plosion cast but* I'm only interested in Brian ,Cory , Jamie Jenny , and Thomas While Jenna and Jay seem perfectly capable they are extremely Wallpaper to me. Hailey and Ashley M. screams desperate to me and Ashley C. , Arielle and Lauren just seem to background. Personally I would love the new school to consists 1. Adam 2. Dustin 3. Leroy 4. Knight 5. Frank 6. Zach 7. Robb 8. Trey 9. Cory 10. Thomas 11. Brian 12. Isaac 13. Johnny R. 14. Jordan 1. Cooke 2. Nany 3. Naomi 4. Jemmye 5. Nia 6. Devyn 7. Jonna 8. Jenny 9. Jamie 10. Ashley K. 11. Sam 12. Carley 13. Ashlee 14. Joi
The rookies I want to see are Scott,Baya,Joey,Ashlee, Mike, Averey and Jenny. The only 2 people from freshmeat 2 I want to come back are Noor and Pete. I wish KellyAnne didn't drop out last second she would have crushed most of these girls. The only girls I care about this time are Nany & LaToya the rest are either annoying or okay.
[QUOTE=Npresh24;389562]There may be 12 People in total on the Ex-Plosion cast but* I'm only interested in Brian ,Cory , Jamie Jenny , and Thomas While Jenna and Jay seem perfectly capable they are extremely Wallpaper to me. Hailey and Ashley M. screams desperate to me and Ashley C. , Arielle and Lauren just seem to background. Personally I would love the new school to consists 1. Adam 2. Dustin 3. Leroy 4. Knight 5. Frank 6. Zach 7. Robb 8. Trey 9. Cory 10. Thomas 11. Brian 12. Isaac 13. Johnny R. 14. Jordan 1. Cooke 2. Nany 3. Naomi 4. Jemmye 5. Nia 6. Devyn 7. Jonna 8. Jenny 9. Jamie 10. Ashley K. 11. Sam 12. Carley 13. Ashlee 14. Joi[/QUOTE] Adam r? And I agree with everything but if replace Naomi with Teresa and Sam with Marie
I want another Duel so all the Johnny haters can see he is actually a good competitor and his wins weren't just based on luck.
[QUOTE=challengeama;389570]Adam r? And I agree with everything but if replace Naomi with Teresa and Sam with Marie[/QUOTE] Yes Adam r. I only want to see Sam cause her and Ashley have a lot to prove after winning their first challenge , could they do it again? IDK but I would love to find out.
[QUOTE=JEKFAN;389571]I want another Duel so all the Johnny haters can see he is actually a good competitor and his wins weren't just based on luck.[/QUOTE] I don't think anyone thinks his wins are based on luck it's just that we haven't seen him win based in his competitive ability but more of his political ability
[QUOTE=JEKFAN;389571]I want another Duel so all the Johnny haters can see he is actually a good competitor and his wins weren't just based on luck.[/QUOTE] Just about every win is though, aside from Exes. I'm not blinded enough to think he sucks or anything, he is a decent/good competitor, but his 4 wins and him as a competitor doesn't really correlate.
[QUOTE=Npresh24;389572]Yes Adam r. I only want to see Sam cause her and Ashley have a lot to prove after winning their first challenge , could they do it again? IDK but I would love to find out.[/QUOTE] Sam is just another Naomi IMO. And I'd love to see Ashley compete again
[QUOTE=Npresh24;389562]There may be 12 People in total on the Ex-Plosion cast but* I'm only interested in Brian ,Cory , Jamie Jenny , and Thomas While Jenna and Jay seem perfectly capable they are extremely Wallpaper to me. Hailey and Ashley M. screams desperate to me and Ashley C. , Arielle and Lauren just seem to background. Personally I would love the new school to consists 1. Adam 2. Dustin 3. Leroy 4. Knight 5. Frank 6. Zach 7. Robb 8. Trey 9. Cory 10. Thomas 11. Brian 12. Isaac 13. Johnny R. 14. Jordan 1. Cooke 2. Nany 3. Naomi 4. Jemmye 5. Nia 6. Devyn 7. Jonna 8. Jenny 9. Jamie 10. Ashley K. 11. Sam 12. Carley 13. Ashlee 14. Joi[/QUOTE] I wouldn't mind if Ty, Emily, Cooke, Nate, Dustin, Adam R., Andrew, Ashley L., Ashlee, Ryan L., Zach, Marlon, Theresa, Trey, Cohutta, and Robb appeared on every challenge from here on out. As for the new kids, I'm interested in seeing all on a challenge except for Hailey and Jenna.
[QUOTE=JEKFAN;389571]I want another Duel so all the Johnny haters can see he is actually a good competitor and his wins weren't just based on luck.[/QUOTE] Actually it'll make it worst because haters hate the more you're successful.
[QUOTE=challengeama;389575]Sam is just another Naomi IMO. And I'd love to see Ashley compete again[/QUOTE] Every challenge needs a good mix of players consisting of good elimination players , good daily mission players , good political players and someone who brings the drama or laughs. that's why I include Naomi everytime cause poltics wise (The way she played Exes) and The Drama she can provide has always been entertaining to me , Theresa seems forced especially post Rivals. It just screams call me for next season but in the less subtle way that others do. I would put Naomi above Sam because she actually tries Sam imho is only better than Katelynn and Casey. I would rank the Top 5 current lower ranked girls as 1. Katelynn 2. Casey 3. Sam 4. Naomi 5. Devyn 1 being the worst
[QUOTE=challengeama;389575]Sam is just another Naomi IMO. And I'd love to see Ashley compete again[/QUOTE] I highly doubt Naomi would've won any of those eliminations, nor would she have completed that final. Well she probably would've finished but her team would've came in last, even behind Devyn.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;389574]Just about every win is though, aside from Exes. I'm not blinded enough to think he sucks or anything, he is a decent/good competitor, but his 4 wins and him as a competitor doesn't really correlate.[/QUOTE] His 4 wins are a direct correlation to him as a competitor. You think getting 4 wins on a challenge is easy or just one big scratch off lottery ticket? He had to work for that. Whether it's politically, physically, strategically, or whatever, he didn't just pull the winning ticket from TJ at the beginning of every show and hop on a plane to the finish line. Luck does play a part in winning any reality competition show, even great ones like Darrell, Landon, Rachel, Evelyn, anyone who's won multiple times, has gotten lucky but also has played a great game.
[QUOTE=TeamLandon;389579]I highly doubt Naomi would've won any of those eliminations, nor would she have completed that final. Well she probably would've finished but her team would've came in last, even behind Devyn.[/QUOTE] True true. But Sam wouldn't have won the eliminations Naomi competed in?
[QUOTE=Npresh24;389578]Every challenge needs a good mix of players consisting of good elimination players , good daily mission players , good political players and someone who brings the drama or laughs. that's why I include Naomi everytime cause poltics wise (The way she played Exes) and The Drama she can provide has always been entertaining to me , Theresa seems forced especially post Rivals. It just screams call me for next season but in the less subtle way that others do. [B]I would put Naomi above Sam because she actually tries[/B] Sam imho is only better than Katelynn and Casey. I would rank the Top 5 current lower ranked girls as 1. Katelynn 2. Casey 3. Sam 4. Naomi 5. Devyn 1 being the worst[/QUOTE] When did Sam not try? Did she not try when she had to coach Zach in that elimination? Or when San Diego was behind after almost every obstacle in the final and they caught up to BK and beat them anyway? I think Brooke, Katelynn, Shauvon, Naomi are easily the worst 4.

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