[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;387961]I don't think that people viewed CT & Wes as the best team on paper, largely because of their failures in Finals. We can always go check the spoiler thread for Rivals 2, but that thread is an absolute mess and I don't want to wish that upon anyone.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, everybody thought CT would gas out on the final because of Exes.
[QUOTE=thisismyuser;387968]What are you talking about? It doesn't sound like they are trying to make an "argument" it's sounds like they are trying to say that they hate those four and don't want to see them back, even though they know they are good for ratings. Do you know what an opinion is?[/QUOTE]
An opinion has no value if it can't be supported. You're the same person that misread a prior comment by me so this response doesn't surprise me. Just more of the same.
I remember the guy from stop being polite was saying on his blog that Wes & CT were behind Leroy & TY for strongest team on rivals 2. People are nuts
He also said Sarah & Trshelle were number 2 for the girls and Aneesa & Diem were only better then Anastasia & Jess
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;387972]I remember the guy from stop being polite was saying on his blog that Wes & CT were behind Leroy & TY for strongest team on rivals 2. People are nuts
He also said Sarah & Trshelle were number 2 for the girls and Aneesa & Diem were only better then Anastasia & Jess[/QUOTE]
Some people you just have to dismiss. It amazes me anyone had faith in Trashelle
[QUOTE=kvm1977;387971]An opinion has no value if it can't be supported. You're the same person that misread a prior comment by me so this response doesn't surprise me. Just more of the same.[/QUOTE]
You are being willfully obtuse or something. They don't like those four. What do they have to "support" about that? They don't like them. They don't want them on.
[QUOTE=thisismyuser;387974]You are being willfully obtuse or something. They don't like those four. What do they have to "support" about that? They don't like them. They don't want them on.[/QUOTE]
The discussion isn't who you like or who you don't like. It is about what the show must do to provide ratings
You can hate anyone--I don't care but that's irrelevant to what makes a successful season
[QUOTE=kvm1977;387975]The discussion isn't who you like or who you don't like. It is about what the show must do to provide ratings
You can hate anyone--I don't care but that's irrelevant to what makes a successful season[/QUOTE]
No, the discussion wasn't about that. What they said was:
"I sure did get what I want. I got the best challenge this series has had in years ratings be ******. That was a good season and I don't care what you or anyone else says"
That comment has nothing to do with ratings but just how much they liked the season. They even acknowledge it had bad ratings.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;387965]Politics aren't the only way to cause drama though. We've all seen that time and again.[/QUOTE]
But the drama isn't real, its boring.
[QUOTE=thisismyuser;387977]No, the discussion wasn't about that. What they said was:
"I sure did get what I want. I got the best challenge this series has had in years ratings be ******. That was a good season and I don't care what you or anyone else says"
That comment has nothing to do with ratings but just how much they liked the season. They even acknowledge it had bad ratings.[/QUOTE]
And the discussion was about RATINGS so that comment is irrelevant to the discussion. It shows that poster has no argument.
You continually prove you cant' follow a conversation.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;387981]And the discussion was about RATINGS so that comment is irrelevant to the discussion. It shows that poster has no argument.
You continually prove you cant' follow a conversation.[/QUOTE]
And you continually show that you only know how to insult people. That poster had the right to add their opinion, boo hoo if it was not directly on the topic of the conversation you wanted to have. They were not trying to have an argument they were trying to say that despite it being so bad in ratings, it was still a good season.
[QUOTE=thisismyuser;387982]And you continually show that you only know how to insult people. That poster had the right to add their opinion, boo hoo if it was not directly on the topic of the conversation you wanted to have. They were not trying to have an argument they were trying to say that despite it being so bad in ratings, it was still a good season.[/QUOTE]
Again, no one that disputing that--they just don't have an argument. When someone states they don't care it is all the proof in the world they know they have no ground to stand on. We all know Debut's opinion--it has no value at this point.
It is impossible to insult stupid people so I'm not trying to insult you
[QUOTE=kvm1977;387984]Again, no one that disputing that--they just don't have an argument. When someone states they don't care it is all the proof in the world they know they have no ground to stand on. We all know Debut's opinion--it has no value at this point.
It is impossible to insult stupid people so I'm not trying to insult you[/QUOTE]
LOL you just called me stupid, how is that not an insult? Guess what dude, I think the same of you after this conversation. Stupid or just like stubborn to an absurd degree. Not everybody who posts has to have an "argument" that they can back up with empirical data. Honestly it sounds like you just completely misunderstood them and are now trying to backtrack.
[QUOTE=thisismyuser;387986]LOL you just called me stupid, how is that not an insult? Guess what dude, I think the same of you after this conversation. Stupid or just like stubborn to an absurd degree. Not everybody who posts has to have an "argument" that they can back up with empirical data. Honestly it sounds like you just completely misunderstood them and are now trying to backtrack.[/QUOTE]
Not at all--and Debut will be the first to tell you that I didn't misunderstand the post. You apparently didn't scan back and thought that was the start of it. Just like the idiotic response you had to by comment regarding the pairing. You don't read things. You're either very young or uneducated. Either way I'm done...think what you want. I don't care at all.
Wow... I can't believe what the last few pages of this thread just consisted of. Sure, this post I'm making doesn't help get it back on track seriously.. You're all discussing past challenges, pairs, outcomes, etc. and it's absolutely ridiculous. Private message each other or take it to the generic thread. It's extremely frustrating seeing pointless, unrelated arguments where both sides sound ridiculous and stubborn.
It's not wonder no official spoilers are being confirmed this season, if I were Molds, I wouldn't want to add anything either.
Discuss the upcoming challenge, add speculation, say ANYTHING that has to do with THIS challenge. How hard is that to understand?
[QUOTE=Morris1721;387991]Wow... I can't believe what the last few pages of this thread just consisted of. Sure, this post I'm making doesn't help get it back on track seriously.. You're all discussing past challenges, pairs, outcomes, etc. and it's absolutely ridiculous. Private message each other or take it to the generic thread. It's extremely frustrating seeing pointless, unrelated arguments where both sides sound ridiculous and stubborn.
It's not wonder no official spoilers are being confirmed this season, if I were Molds, I wouldn't want to add anything either.
Discuss the upcoming challenge, add speculation, say ANYTHING that has to do with THIS challenge. How hard is that to understand?[/QUOTE]
This thread was lost a long time ago--it has nothing to do with the lack of input by molds. Molds will post spoilers in a separate thread if molds wants to. Many of us already have a good idea because we PM each other.
I'm still really confused who the final four was for female and male.
Johnny B.
Zach
Leroy
Johnny R.
Nany
Laurel
Theresa
Devyn
??
I feel like it changes everyday.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;387994]This thread was lost a long time ago--it has nothing to do with the lack of input by molds. Molds will post spoilers in a separate thread if molds wants to. Many of us already have a good idea because we PM each other.[/QUOTE]
I'm also aware of what's going on.. Congratulations though.
Do you know why spoilers haven't been posted? Yes, it actually does have to do with the ridiculousness of this thread. Had this thread been monitored like they used to be, there's a much greater chance official spoilers would've been confirmed.. But like every season, this thread always goes to hell and never comes back.
[QUOTE=Morris1721;387997]I'm also aware of what's going on.. Congratulations though.
Do you know why spoilers haven't been posted? Yes, it actually does have to do with the ridiculousness of this thread. Had this thread been monitored like they used to be, there's a much greater chance official spoilers would've been confirmed.. But like every season, this thread always goes to hell and never comes back.[/QUOTE]
I never suggested you didn't. Believe what you want
[QUOTE=JEKFAN;387996]I'm still really confused who the final four was for female and male.
Johnny B.
Zach
Leroy
Johnny R.
Nany
Laurel
Theresa
Devyn
??
I feel like it changes everyday.[/QUOTE]
Most likely....Nany's not a lock though unless something changed in the last 2 days
[QUOTE=kvm1977;387999]I never suggested you didn't. Believe what you want[/QUOTE]
It's believed because it's been explained to me numerous times. Believe what you want.
[QUOTE=Morris1721;388001]It's believed because it's been explained to me numerous times. Believe what you want.[/QUOTE]
LOL--they we're getting entirely different information and I trust mine. Notice how you're doing the exact thing you tried to claim was the problem. Typical
[QUOTE=kvm1977;387990]Not at all--and Debut will be the first to tell you that I didn't misunderstand the post. You apparently didn't scan back and thought that was the start of it. Just like the idiotic response you had to by comment regarding the pairing. You don't read things. You're either very young or uneducated. Either way I'm done...think what you want. I don't care at all.[/QUOTE]
I thought when somebody said they "didn't care" it meant that they didn't have an "argument" though...
I did read the whole conversation, you just apparently will fly off the handle if somebody challenges you. It guarantees several pages of arguments. And no, I'm not very young or uneducated, but continue being defensive that I won't back down to you. It's pretty transparent.
But anyway, yes, moving on. Sorry other posters.
:highly_amused: this thread. Since no one responded to you,
[QUOTE=Xojackiexo;387946]Does anyone know if cj was asked to be on this season and declined again like rivals 2? And why did he decline rivals 2 and who would have been his partner?[/QUOTE]
Chet would of been his only partner of choice and I'm guessing his reasoning would be because of his modeling career hes got going on. But I do hope we see him in another season (duel 3, hopefully).
But I just notice Zach and Johnny are following each other, I was hoping for some drama between them this season.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;387967]It is the only legit drama based on game play...not BS about who likes who--as though we're 12[/QUOTE]
That has been the main focus for a while now with BMP shoving couple drama down our throats. They show hook-up drama than actual deliberations and game play.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;387990]Not at all--and Debut will be the first to tell you that I didn't misunderstand the post. You apparently didn't scan back and thought that was the start of it. Just like the idiotic response you had to by comment regarding the pairing. You don't read things. You're either very young or uneducated. Either way I'm done...think what you want. I don't care at all.[/QUOTE]
I don't even think you really got what I was trying to say. I said that I know everything that you were saying already but despite all of that...
Battle of the Seasons 2 and I thought it was a Good season despite the bad ratings.
I hate Johnny/Paula/CT/Wes and don't want them there despite them sadly bringing in viewers.
That's pretty much all I had to say. You're sitting here saying I have no argument. But I was never trying to make an argument in the first damn place. So what are you even going on about? and what do I need to defend? I'm just stating opinions. That's all I was doing. You're trying to turn this into something it isn't.
[QUOTE=Morris1721;387991]Wow... I can't believe what the last few pages of this thread just consisted of. Sure, this post I'm making doesn't help get it back on track seriously.. You're all discussing past challenges, pairs, outcomes, etc. and it's absolutely ridiculous. Private message each other or take it to the generic thread. It's extremely frustrating seeing pointless, unrelated arguments where both sides sound ridiculous and stubborn.
It's not wonder no official spoilers are being confirmed this season, if I were Molds, I wouldn't want to add anything either.
Discuss the upcoming challenge, add speculation, say ANYTHING that has to do with THIS challenge. How hard is that to understand?[/QUOTE]
Sorry to burst your bubble, Morris, but as of late, their isn't anything to discuss for this challenge. Everything's being done behind closed doors. Molds (or any other mods for that matter) haven't been spotted on this thread in a long while, so chaos will ultimately continue on. My best bet, as usual, is to wait it out.
Even if spoilers don't get posted, I won't mind. It'll only make this season better IMO...if only the people who I want to win end up winning it all.
[QUOTE=wutzrenzi;388010]That has been the main focus for a while now with BMP shoving couple drama down our throats. They show hook-up drama than actual deliberations and game play.[/QUOTE]
Agreed to the umpteenth degree!
[QUOTE=Debut Album;388011]I don't even think you really got what I was trying to say. I said that I know everything that you were saying already but despite all of that...
Battle of the Seasons 2 and I thought it was a Good season despite the bad ratings.
I hate Johnny/Paula/CT/Wes and don't want them there despite them sadly bringing in viewers.
That's pretty much all I had to say. You're sitting here saying I have no argument. But I was never trying to make an argument in the first damn place. So what are you even going on about? and what do I need to defend? I'm just stating opinions. That's all I was doing. You're trying to turn this into something it isn't.[/QUOTE]
I understand what you're saying, Debut. I already made my opinion on BOTS a while back. New faces will take some time getting use to...though I already love Jemmye, Nany, and Jordan, among a few others that made their debut before BOTS.
[QUOTE=JEKFAN;387996]I'm still really confused who the final four was for female and male.
Johnny B.
Zach
Leroy
Johnny R.
Nany
Laurel
Theresa
Devyn
??
I feel like it changes everyday.[/QUOTE]
That's pretty much all you need to know.
If spoilers are accurate, and from what people are statin that they heard, the F4 should be correct (though it doesn't make sense since someone mentioned that CT made the final and finished 2nd).
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;387941]I'd stop watching if cards determined who went in tbh[/QUOTE]
From this post, I don't get a solid reason on why you'd stop watching...however,
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;387962]Don't get me wrong I love head to head competition but politics causes drama and fights, its hard to get mad at someone when you picked a random card sending you in[/QUOTE]
This post kind of connects it (if that what you were going for).
Here's the thing; change needs to happen for the show not to get stale, and from what's taken place this season, it's getting the hype that I hope it lives up to.
We've gone through over 1,000 pages on this thread starter (though a good half of it didn't really relate to this challenge...).
We keep hearing different things day in and day out, some things more surprising than others.
I feel like, if the cards thing were to happen, we'd get a chance to see something happen: nobody being safe because of alliances.
Which I don't know about you guys but I'm going to love this concept if it ends up happening!
We already see what happens when alliances runs the show...things get too predictable and stale, and while the season overall may be great, it'll leave a bad taste knowing that a different outcome could've happened had things went differently.
Put this in another perspective: we have heard that Zach and CT go into an elimination, with CT losing. There might be a way that this can also happen without cards, but it might be a bit difficult to set up.
Cards, in my honest opinion, makes this game much less predictable and that more exciting!
[QUOTE=kvm1977;387948]Because the social aspect is important to many people
Otherwise just create an NCAA March Madness bracket and let them go had to head
Those that don't like the social aspect simply hate those that are good at it
If random cards determine who goes in people will stop watching...me and Challenge17 for starters[/QUOTE]
That's not true. At all. The social aspect is whatever. I'm fine with bracket play. Let's see who can back up their talk. Guarantee people like Kenny and Johnny wouldn't do well.
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