The Challenge: Free Agents - Speculation (Spoilers)

They need to stop inviting Johnny back to the challenge bc its boring seeing him in the final. Johnny is very lucky in terms of getting partners as seen in previous challenges and having strong alliances. The lamest partner up for Rivals 2 would be him and Frank which was about a fight over twitter. :/ If thats the case, then they should have developed a challenge where its Frank vs. everyone he pissed off.

[QUOTE=xlthl;387811]They need to stop inviting Johnny back to the challenge bc its boring seeing him in the final. Johnny is very lucky in terms of getting partners as seen in previous challenges and having strong alliances. The lamest partner up for Rivals 2 would be him and Frank which was about a fight over twitter. :/ If thats the case, then they should have developed a challenge where its Frank vs. everyone he pissed off.[/QUOTE] Johnny creates viewers...regardless of what some of us may think And let's not act like Tyler or Frank were the best partners. He didn't get CT, Brad, Derrick, Evan, Kenny, Wes, etc...he got two middle of the road guys and found a way to win/reach the finals. He's not Paula getting Evelyn and Emily. Let's remember--he was going to get Casey until she dropped out.

[QUOTE=xlthl;387811]They need to stop inviting Johnny back to the challenge bc its boring seeing him in the final. Johnny is very lucky in terms of getting partners as seen in previous challenges and having strong alliances. The lamest partner up for Rivals 2 would be him and Frank which was about a fight over twitter. :/ If thats the case, then they should have developed a challenge where its Frank vs. everyone he pissed off.[/QUOTE] The lamest team was Dunbar and Tyrie.

[QUOTE=TexasFight88;387814]The lamest team was Dunbar and Tyrie.[/QUOTE] I don't understand why anyone had an issue with Johnny getting Frank...if he didn't get Frank he would have got CT with Wes/Frank together

[QUOTE=TexasFight88;387814]The lamest team was Dunbar and Tyrie.[/QUOTE] They should have replaced them with Chet/CJ Everyone literally pinpoints every little part of Johnny's wins and says he doesn't deserve it or he got lucky. Even if you hate the guy, he deserved his wins. It wasn't his fault, they gave him Camila. He doesn't do the casting.He got decent partners and ended up winning, get over it.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;387815]I don't understand why anyone had an issue with Johnny getting Frank...if he didn't get Frank he would have got CT with Wes/Frank together[/QUOTE] That's what I've always thought. If there is a Rivals III, I wouldn't be shocked if Johnny was paired was Wes or CT. IMO, it'd probably be Wes. I listened to an interview Frank did and he said that when TJ called Wes' name out first, the common thought among-st the cast was that it would be Frank/Wes and CT/Johnny.

[QUOTE=JEKFAN;387818]They should have replaced them with Chet/CJ Everyone literally pinpoints every little part of Johnny's wins and says he doesn't deserve it or he got lucky. Even if you hate the guy, he deserved his wins. It wasn't his fault, they gave him Camila. He doesn't do the casting.He got decent partners and ended up winning, get over it.[/QUOTE] Totally agree on Johnny. Winning four challenges is an impressive accomplishment. The funniest part is that most of the people picking apart his challenge wins are Wes and CT homers and they can't even acknowledge that they won, IMO, one of the lamest final challenges in recent memory. If Johnny and Frank won the Rivals II challenge, they'd be saying: "He got lucky!" "He stinks!" "He won one of the weakest finals ever!" But since Wes and CT won, do we hear how they won a weak final challenge, in comparisons to the others? Nope. Try and be objective, it really isn't that hard. And if Johnny is apparently not even good enough to lick the dirt off of Wes and CT's cleats, how come CT and Wes haven't won 4 challenges? How come neither Wes or CT won exes? Or Rivals I? Johnny's won challenges that were FAR more difficult than the Rivals II final that CT and Wes won.

[QUOTE=Nightwolf;387793]I've decided to give my speculation based on what I've heard from the voices in my head: [B]- Frank goes home after getting a case of the itis[/B] [/QUOTE] Nearly spit out my drink this was so funny.

[QUOTE=JEKFAN;387818]They should have replaced them with Chet/CJ Everyone literally pinpoints every little part of Johnny's wins and says he doesn't deserve it or he got lucky. Even if you hate the guy, he deserved his wins. It wasn't his fault, they gave him Camila. He doesn't do the casting.He got decent partners and ended up winning, get over it.[/QUOTE] It's Casey's fault if anyone for him being paired with Camilla

I actually would have loved to see Zito and Frank as a team. I think that would have been pretty fun to watch them go at each other.

[QUOTE=TexasFight88;387824]I actually would have loved to see Zito and Frank as a team. I think that would have been pretty fun to watch them go at each other.[/QUOTE] Dustin was on "a time out" last year If there's another Rivals then we'll see them together most likely after Frank beats him this year

[QUOTE=kvm1977;387815]I don't understand why anyone had an issue with Johnny getting Frank...if he didn't get Frank he would have got CT with Wes/Frank together[/QUOTE] I didn't care who he got..The issue was him being there at all.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;387826]I didn't care who he got..The issue was him being there at all.[/QUOTE] He has every right to be there--same with everyone else Just a ridiculous statement

[QUOTE=kvm1977;387828]He has every right to be there--same with everyone else Just a ridiculous statement[/QUOTE] It's not ridiculous. I'm tired of seeing him on these shows. And you know what? That's okay. After a very good season without him and his nasty bull**** here he is again to ruin yet another challenge. THAT'S the issue. I'm just sick. of. him. Thank god for these new challengers..They're the only reason I watch these shows anymore.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;387837]It's not ridiculous. I'm tired of seeing him on these shows. And you know what? That's okay. After a very good season without him and his nasty bull**** here he is again to ruin yet another challenge. I don't want him on these shows anymore. Thank god for these new challengers..They're the only reason I watch these shows anymore.[/QUOTE] And you need "veterans" for other viewers--it isn't just about you. Johnny = Ratings...regardless of your biased opinion. I don't like Johnny but I want to see people actually beat him

I can't stand Johnny but he has a fan base and that helps the show.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;387841]And you need "veterans" for other viewers--it isn't just about you. Johnny = Ratings...regardless of your biased opinion. I don't like Johnny but I want to see people actually beat him[/QUOTE] Look, I get that that idiot brings in viewers but that doesn't mean I have to like it and it doesn't mean I have to like him either. So I fail to see how I'm Biased and I fail to see why I have to care about him bringing in viewers. He isn't the only one that does. I really hope this show gets to the point where we don't need him to bring in viewers(Paula, CT, and Wes too).

[QUOTE=Debut Album;387855]Look, I get that that idiot brings in viewers but that doesn't mean I have to like it and it doesn't mean I have to like him either. So I fail to see how I'm Biased and I fail to see why I have to care about him bringing in viewers. He isn't the only one that does. I really hope this show gets to the point where we don't need him to bring in viewers(Paula, CT, and Wes too).[/QUOTE] That will never happen because you need those that don't watch the Real World....you lose those guys you lose viewers. It is simply common sense. If you get that the idiot bring in viewers then you understand why he's there--so accept it--it isn't going to chance. BOTS2 proved to everyone that they can't rely on the new kids because many of the viewers are older. You can't alienate the fan base. This is about ratings--nothing else

[QUOTE=kvm1977;387862]That will never happen because you need those that don't watch the Real World....you lose those guys you lose viewers. It is simply common sense. If you get that the idiot bring in viewers then you understand why he's there--so accept it--it isn't going to chance. BOTS2 proved to everyone that they can't rely on the new kids because many of the viewers are older. You can't alienate the fan base. This is about ratings--nothing else[/QUOTE] True it's all about the ratings and you need the vets, and the new faces cant carry the show because not all of them are likeable or have a fan base like the vets do.

[QUOTE=boncat23;387785]That's a good note. But my sources say that CT and Zach are in an elimination this season. And CT is eliminated.[/QUOTE] I never pictured CT ever losing a physical elimanation one on one. I guess if it ever happens/happened it would be against Zack. There's no way the producers would allow a matchup between those two be anything but a physical elimination. Does your source mention if it was an intense battle? Or that Zack dominated? Can't believe it until I see it lol.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;387813]Johnny creates viewers...regardless of what some of us may think And let's not act like Tyler or Frank were the best partners. He didn't get CT, Brad, Derrick, Evan, Kenny, Wes, etc...he got two middle of the road guys and found a way to win/reach the finals. He's not Paula getting Evelyn and Emily. Let's remember--he was going to get Casey until she dropped out.[/QUOTE] He absolutely got great partners there is no denying it. He got the previous challenge winner [B]BOTH [/B]times. Everybody during Cutthroat said Tyler performed better than anyone else on Cutthroat, a cast including Brad and Derrick. Evan was chubby, Kenny was really inconsistent. You could argue that Wes and CT would've been better partners. Frank masterminded a strategy on Battle of the Seasons that got him a win and athletically performed better than everyone except maybe Zach. Again, CT &Zach would've been probably the only arguably better partners. Simply, putting the 1st and 4th/5th best players on a team makes them the favorite to win it all.

[QUOTE=Rockstar;387875]He absolutely got great partners there is no denying it. He got the previous challenge winner [B]BOTH [/B]times. Everybody during Cutthroat said Tyler performed better than anyone else on Cutthroat, a cast including Brad and Derrick. Evan was chubby, Kenny was really inconsistent. You could argue that Wes and CT would've been better partners. Frank masterminded a strategy on Battle of the Seasons that got him a win and athletically performed better than everyone except maybe Zach. Again, CT &Zach would've been probably the only arguably better partners. Simply, putting the 1st and 4th/5th best players on a team makes them the favorite to win it all.[/QUOTE] If you think Tyler/Johnny would have been the favorite to start that season you're out of your mind Same with Frank/Johnny...or Camila/Johnny He earned them--kudos to him...shame on everyone else.

[QUOTE=JEKFAN;387818]They should have replaced them with Chet/CJ Everyone literally pinpoints every little part of Johnny's wins and says he doesn't deserve it or he got lucky. Even if you hate the guy, he deserved his wins. It wasn't his fault, they gave him Camila. He doesn't do the casting.He got decent partners and ended up winning, get over it.[/QUOTE] CJ declined Rivals 2 ;)

I heard everyone wants frank out( guys), also the elimination between Zach and CT will not be physical, but will be close.

[QUOTE=boncat23;387907]I heard everyone wants frank out( guys), also the elimination between Zach and CT will not be physical, but will be close.[/QUOTE] I thought the producers would do everything in their power to have a physical one lined up for those two or the fans will feel robbed watching zach solve a puzzle before ct the two biggest guys haha maybe wasnt puzzle but if not physical it cant be a good one They may never face eachother again

[QUOTE=jojorules;387909]I thought the producers would do everything in their power to have a physical one lined up for those two or the fans will feel robbed watching zach solve a puzzle before ct the two biggest guys haha maybe wasnt puzzle but if not physical it cant be a good one[/QUOTE] I would be one of those fans, I don't wanna see strong competitors in a freaking puzzle that's lame

[QUOTE=kvm1977;387888]If you think Tyler/Johnny would have been the favorite to start that season you're out of your mind Same with Frank/Johnny...or Camila/Johnny He earned them--kudos to him...shame on everyone else.[/QUOTE] Agreed. I thought Tyler/Johnny would contend and get to the final, but that on paper, Kenny/Wes was the team to beat. And on Rivals II, you had them trying to get through a field that included Jordan/Marlon, CT/Wes, Zach/Trey, etc. I'm sure I wasn't alone in thinking that.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;387888]If you think Tyler/Johnny would have been the favorite to start that season you're out of your mind Same with Frank/Johnny...or Camila/Johnny He earned them--kudos to him...shame on everyone else.[/QUOTE] nm

[QUOTE=kvm1977;387862]That will never happen because you need those that don't watch the Real World....you lose those guys you lose viewers. It is simply common sense. If you get that the idiot bring in viewers then you understand why he's there--so accept it--it isn't going to chance. BOTS2 proved to everyone that they can't rely on the new kids because many of the viewers are older. You can't alienate the fan base. This is about ratings--nothing else[/QUOTE] I don't have to accept a damn thing. I'm going to complain that he's there as long as he keeps coming on because guess what? I DON'T LIKE HIM! Remember when I said that I don't have to like that he's there? I don't have to accept it either. Especially when BMP created this ****** situation in the first place. And as far as BOTS 2 tanking...well another ****** situation that BMP Created.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;387914]I don't have to accept a damn thing. I'm going to complain that he's there as long as he keeps coming on because guess what? I DON'T LIKE HIM! Remember when I said that I don't have to like that he's there? I don't have to accept it either. Especially when BMP created this ****** situation in the first place. And as far as BOTS 2 tanking...well another ****** situation that BMP Created.[/QUOTE] BOTS2 tanked because you got what you wanted--it doesn't work with the fan base and thankfully we'll never see that many brand new faces again. Lesson learned