The Challenge: Free Agents - Speculation (Spoilers)

[QUOTE=proceed;377773]But CT and Evan are not.[/QUOTE] Ummmm--I have no idea why you think that proves something with the topic. Athleticism is athleticism regardless of height. CT and Evan aren't good competitors because they're tall. It's about traits not height or size. See Landon if you don't comprehend this.

[QUOTE=JEKFAN;377775]I think Nany will make it to the end. Zach in an interview said if he had to pick some girls to be on his team, he said Nany would be one of them. He said even though they had their differences Nany was one of the best girls on BOTS.[/QUOTE] Nany's going to get called out by the veterans if they win challenges--I can't see the rookies trying to protect her but she'll be a target. Assuming, of course, the vets have a say. Nany wasn't that great on BOTS...I think Zach's delusional sometimes

The only girls I can see beating Nany in a physical elimination are Aneesa Laurel and Camilla the rest of the veteran girls would lose to her

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;377778]The only girls I can see beating Nany in a physical elimination are Aneesa Laurel and Camilla the rest of the veteran girls would lose to her[/QUOTE] Jonna and Nany is a coin-toss. Theresa would put up one **** of a fight against her...so would Cara The only sure win is Jasmine. Now Nany would beat most on her team but the vets aren't good matchups if it is physical IMO

[QUOTE=kvm1977;377776]Ummmm--I have no idea why you think that proves something with the topic. Athleticism is athleticism regardless of height. CT and Evan aren't good competitors because they're tall. It's about traits not height or size. See Landon if you don't comprehend this.[/QUOTE] If you think Height doesn't factor into how one performs in eliminations/missions then I don't know what to say. It's not the deciding factor in someone's success on these shows, but it definitely is a factor.

[QUOTE=proceed;377780]If you think Height doesn't factor into how one performs in eliminations/missions then I don't know what to say. It's not the deciding factor in someone's success on these shows, but it definitely is a factor.[/QUOTE] Ask Landon and Derrick for starters...then ask Wes. Height doesn't matter if you're an athlete. Do we really need to go through the list of guys 6+ that sucked? It's dumbfounding that anyone is naive enough to believe that height matters. You made a ridiculously clueless statement and don't know how to get out of it

Do we have to bring up beach brawl during the gauntlet 2 where Derrick beat someone twice his size

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;377782]Do we have to bring up beach brawl during the gauntlet 2 where Derrick beat someone twice his size[/QUOTE] ****, just look at "All Shook Up" between Mark and Landon or the fact Ruthie won for the girls.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;377781]Ask Landon and Derrick for starters...then ask Wes. Height doesn't matter if you're an athlete. Do we really need to go through the list of guys 6+ that sucked? It's dumbfounding that anyone is naive enough to believe that height matters. You made a ridiculously clueless statement and don't know how to get out of it[/QUOTE] Landon and Derrick are good competitors [U]despite[/U] their height.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;377779]Jonna and Nany is a coin-toss. Theresa would put up one **** of a fight against her...so would Cara The only sure win is Jasmine. Now Nany would beat most on her team but the vets aren't good matchups if it is physical IMO[/QUOTE] I think Nany would beat Jonna I don't see why you think so highly of Jonna

[QUOTE=proceed;377785]Landon and Derrick are good competitors [U]despite[/U] their height.[/QUOTE] LOL

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;377786]I think Nany would beat Jonna I don't see why you think so highly of Jonna[/QUOTE] I don't see why you think so highly of Nany. To each their own. Notice, I said it would be a coin-toss meaning either could win...the fact you seem to think it is a given that Nany wins means you're the one thinking highly of someone without having evidence...not me.

Height does play a factor in some elimination rounds, some it doens't. For example, Tyrie said the elimination in exes he lost in no big person stood a chance to do becuase of how it was set up. Also if Ct wasn't bigger than johnny or johnny was taller, we wouldn't have been able to witness johnny become a backpack. But anyway back on topic, i hope the rules work this time where if the vets dominate, they aren't punished for having more people, but i hope the final is set up where it's an advantage. You shouldn't be punished for having a better team.

[QUOTE=jojorules;377791]Height does play a factor in some elimination rounds, some it doens't. For example, Tyrie said the elimination in exes he lost in no big person stood a chance to do becuase of how it was set up. Also if Ct wasn't bigger than johnny or johnny was taller, we wouldn't have been able to witness johnny become a backpack. But anyway back on topic, i hope the rules work this time where if the vets dominate, they aren't punished for having more people, but i hope the final is set up where it's an advantage. You shouldn't be punished for having a better team.[/QUOTE] Exactly.

[QUOTE=proceed;377736]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/kaylaschneider1">@kaylaschneider1</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/ForBananas">@forbananas</a> I never said anything about Nia. Maybe I'll see you on the next one :-D We have been staying busy these days— Brad Fiorenza (@BradFiorenza) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/BradFiorenza/statuses/392880485468102656">October 23, 2013</a></blockquote> Turns out Brad didn't turn down doing the show because of Nia.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=proceed;377741]Lexblair said he turned down the show specifically because of Nia.[/QUOTE] Show me that. Here are my posts from back then. [QUOTE=LexBlair;371164]It's not strictly about Nia, it's [B]BMP's new BCG- Challenge style, where physical violence is not only allowed but even appreciated.[/B]... It's simply the fact that[B] The Challange has become one of those "trash" reality TV shows [/B]that an everyday person does not dissociate inbetween..(It's all the same)... [B]Long gone are the times[/B] when the [B]Challenge and the RW were somewhat above typical trash TV[/B], you DO get judged if you do this stuff as opposed to a couple of years back where you could do these for fun/hobby and still be a respectable part of sociaty back home... I assume some of you are still relatively young and cannot fully comprehend when certain behavior stops being "cool" and becomes "pathetic"...[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=LexBlair;371212]Again NOT EXPLICITLY bc of NIA but the BGC style that Nia brought with her.... and for the record Brad/(Tori-since they bring these decisions together) could have changed his mind(MTV threw some ridiculous amount of money towards him, but the last I heard, after they heard who else got AV calls and saw the new clause in the contract, it was a definite "no".[/QUOTE] Again, here is the ****... I said MULTIPLE TIMES that it was NOT explicitly because of Nia but the general shift of rules/dynamics of the show that ultimately happened after Nia came on...(plus there were some private matters too) Gosh I can't stand misquoting. Same with the "Lex said there are two surprise cast members" ... when I actually said that "I was really excited for 2 cast members I am aware of atm"... [QUOTE=LexBlair;370595]Well, I am REALLY excited for 2 cast members(out of those I am aware of, at least) and I believe that plenty of ppl will be sharing my excitement. However, I could definitely do without a couple of prospective cast members....(but isn't that always the case?..:panda:)[/QUOTE] Take the time to read what people actually say. a single word can change the whole meaning of a sentence.

This thread has lived up to it's name. Maybe we can start eyeing any clues for a first elimination. It's been a week, I assume they've done at least one Challenge now. Possibly an elimination has occurred or begins next week.

[QUOTE=LexBlair;377801]Show me that. Again, here is the ****... I said MULTIPLE TIMES that it was NOT explicitly because of Nia but the general shift of rules/dynamics of the show that ultimately happened after Nia came on...(plus there were some private matters too) Gosh I can't stand misquoting. Same with the "Lex said there are two surprise cast members" ... when I actually said that "I was really excited for 2 cast members I am aware of atm"... Take the time to read what people actually say. a single word can change the whole meaning of a sentence.[/QUOTE] You mean like how they edited the final season he was on to make him look like an ******* for thinking Camila was screwing with Johnny when in actuality he was right?

Lex, I just remember you saying, and I might be misquoting, that is was BMP's failure to intervene because of Nia as one of the reasons that Brad opted not to do the Challenge. As for the Challenge itself and possible eliminations, I think people will have seen Nia's actions, possibly have listed to the Bus Driver interviews and formed a definite opinion. In fact, I think she'll struggle to stay there. Rookies will most likely go home first unless everyone is tired of the Backpack and decides to force him into an Elimination against someone where he has no advantage and a possible disadvantage. Johnny Backpack whines more than anyone when he is forced to go in (unless he has arranged something like on Exes). Now, wouldn't that be an awesome start to a Challenge if Nia and Johnny Backpack were the first to leave? ... Although, I think BMP might rig something to keep one of them there.

[QUOTE=jojorules;377751]At risk of being spoiled id stay away because someone or two are going home soon so in case it gets posted by a member even if not confirmed id stay in generic :)[/QUOTE] good point, I think i will take my leave from this thread (not that anyone cares lol) have fun with the spoilers!!! I look forward to seeing a finalized cast list :D If you need me, I will be being Generic and wondering Where They Are Now. ;)

I always find it funny when girls who never go far say how they trust johnny, like i don't get it. He must be some kind of manipulator if girls who never makes the final will believe he is doing them right

[QUOTE=Psy4potato;377805]good point, I think i will take my leave from this thread (not that anyone cares lol) have fun with the spoilers!!! I look forward to seeing a finalized cast list :D If you need me, I will be being Generic and wondering Where They Are Now. ;)[/QUOTE] haha good call. If you need anything just message me :) I will try to give you any scoop you want

I guess that depends upon whether or not they've had the dishonor of ending up on Backpack's list of girls he's slept with.

Any confirmation on the last guy on it, If Big Easy wasn't on it? Any hookup prediction? I can see Nia/TY

[QUOTE=PinkRose;377811]Any confirmation on the last guy on it, If Big Easy wasn't on it? Any hookup prediction? I can see Nia/TY[/QUOTE] Hookups are interesting because their are a lot of actual friends on this one, not a whole lot of possibilities but with editing and drunkness their will be something. Throw CT out too hopefully that's half of them at least haha. I will guess emilee and jordan for one

[QUOTE=Nightwolf;377803]You mean like how they[B] edited the final season he was on to make him look like an ******* [/B]for thinking Camila was screwing with Johnny when in actuality he was right?[/QUOTE] I don't really know how this relates to my post, which I assume should bc it was quoted, but whatever relations Camila has had with Johnny during Cutthroat should have been completely irrelevant to him. Really. The only way Johnny could have interfered with his game is by making Camila not give 120% during the missions(perhaps even throw them) This was CLEARLY not the case and Camila has shown herself to be the best girl on the team multiple times...Not giving it all is simply not in her nature. Tori was clearly the boss. There is nothing wrong with wanting to make your wife happy, it's probably even pretty **** smart, but don't go crying over the fact that you've been portrayed as a wuss... Just my 0.02$

[QUOTE=LexBlair;377814]Whatever relations Camila has had with Johnny during Cutthroat should have been completely irrelevant to him. Really. The only way Johnny could have done anything is by making Camila not give 120% during the missions(perhaps even throwing them) This was CLEARLY not the case and Camila has shown herself to be the best girl on the team multiple times...Not giving it all is simply not in her nature. Tori was clearly the boss. There is nothing wrong with wanting to make your wife happy, it's probably even pretty **** smart, but don't go crying over the fact that you've been portrayed as a wuss... Just my 0.02$[/QUOTE] I agree with you that camila isn't the type to throw anything. I am not surprised if johnny wanted to hookup with her i mean look at her

[QUOTE=Nightwolf;377803]You mean like how they edited the final season he was on to make him look like an ******* for thinking Camila was screwing with Johnny when in actuality he was right?[/QUOTE] He would have looked like an ******* at the end of that season regardless. Afterr using Camila and Brandon as scapegoats, lying to their faces, and playing a dirty game in general.

[QUOTE=jojorules;377791]Height does play a factor in some elimination rounds, some it doens't. For example, Tyrie said the elimination in exes he lost in no big person stood a chance to do becuase of how it was set up. Also if Ct wasn't bigger than johnny or johnny was taller, we wouldn't have been able to witness johnny become a backpack. [/QUOTE] Sometimes height does matter indeed. [ATTACH]3160[/ATTACH]

[QUOTE=LexBlair;377817]Sometimes height does matter indeed. [ATTACH]3160[/ATTACH][/QUOTE] 100 percent agree. But it's the luck of the draw and it depends on the people going in as well

Just for fun, here is what the ladies look like going into the challenge. [ATTACH]3161[/ATTACH][ATTACH]3162[/ATTACH] Not a lot of diversity in looks.