The Challenge: Free Agents - Speculation (Spoilers)

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[QUOTE=KingKenny;377146]You do realize that manipulation is part of the game, right? And there's nobody better than the banana man "All is fair in love, war, and challenges"[/QUOTE] No its not. Especially when the fool goes into an ER every other year.
I really want to see Johnny go against Zach and Frank go against CT I'd love to see those two get knocked down a peg
[QUOTE=Nostalgic;377154]No its not. Especially when the fool goes into an ER every other year.[/QUOTE] Are you saying that he doesn't go into enough elimination rounds? You do realize he's gone in every season aside from this past one and the Inferno 3 right? Every other show he's done he's gone in. Plus, every show that he won, he went in at least once (twice on the Island). Compare that to Darrell who went in one time in all four of his wins.
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;377143]What would be a joke about it[/QUOTE] Aneesa higher than Camila, Cara Maria higher than Jonna and Theresa are the off-placements to me. The rookie males are much more debatable though I'd put Dustin/Jordan/Frank above Zach.
[QUOTE=alaskak94;377152]It still upsets me they dropped Tyler and kept Eric. Worst decision ever.[/QUOTE] I think someone like Tyler has matured greatly from the catty party monster he was on Key West and they are probably no longer interested in him. Homosexual hookups scare the 12 year olds and he didn't bring much drama on Cutthroat or Rivals If I remember correctly (except for the under appreciated "NO RUNNING AROUND THE PIANO!" line during the Laurel vs. Everyone fight).
Zach is overrated IMO. I think Johnny could beat him. He is big & strong but not very smart. He reminds me of MJ.
[QUOTE=Rockstar;377158]I think someone like Tyler has matured greatly from the catty party monster he was on Key West and they are probably no longer interested in him. Homosexual hookups scare the 12 year olds and he didn't bring much drama on Cutthroat or Rivals If I remember correctly (except for the under appreciated "NO RUNNING AROUND THE PIANO!" line during the Laurel vs. Everyone fight).[/QUOTE] He had that fight with Leroy too on Rivals I. I like Ty and I think he's underrated but a Tyler/Leroy team would've been pretty solid.
[QUOTE=KingKenny;377148]Also sure CT is better physically than Johnny but so what ... he's better than everyone there physically, do you only cheer for him? Johnny is a better strategist as proven by his 4 wins[/QUOTE] Johnny is a great player, one of the best in the history of these shows, but his 2 of those 4 wins were very lucky. Had Abe stayed on the Island, Johnny would have gone home rather soon or had Ev been bitter and taken Johnny's key, he would have been sent home. His Rivals 1 win came from Wes/Kenny having a 45-minute lead to having a mere 2 minute one. I'll also say it's worth noting that out of everyone in JEKD, he was the only one to go into a Ruins.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;377157]Aneesa higher than Camila, Cara Maria higher than Jonna and Theresa are the off-placements to me. The rookie males are much more debatable though I'd put Dustin/Jordan/Frank above Zach.[/QUOTE] Well Cara Maria has won more eliminations then Theresa and Jonna put together... And I don't see why you'd put Jordan above Zach, I don't like either of them but Zach would easily defeat Jordan plus Zach & Trey have won one more misson then Jordan & Marlon
Even if I found him a bit annoying on Rivals 1, I would have liked to see Tyler return.
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;377162]Well Cara Maria has won more eliminations then Theresa and Jonna put together... And I don't see why you'd put Jordan above Zach, I don't like either of them but Zach would easily defeat Jordan plus Zach & Trey have won one more misson then Jordan & Marlon[/QUOTE] Cara's also had Laurel and Cooke to help her in those elimination rounds. Jonna's not very good in elimination rounds, but dos very well in missions, for the most part. Cara doesn't.... Those were also partner missions. Even in something physical, I don't think Jordan would be easily defeated...
Cara has won 2 by her self which is more then Theresa. I don't see why everyone thinks Theresa is so great. I think Jordan would but its likely that he'd never vs Zach in a handcuffs or pole wrestle for obvious reasons
Tyler got really buff!!!
[QUOTE=Debut Album;377108]I hope that isn't because if that is true then that is really ****ty of Adam to take that offer and sabotage CT like that.[/QUOTE] It's a rumor but here is what CT had to say about it. It starts around 34:00 [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMnw9IiwAgs&list=HL1382563061&feature=mh_lolz]MTV's Challenge Battle of the Exes S:22 | I Will Always Love You E:10 | AfterBuzz TV - YouTube[/url]
Adam did do a bit of a complete 180 on how he saw ct its almost as id he felt guilty.. Even on the show when ct and him were getting along he talked bad about ct to kenny evan johnny wes. Than after the show he did nothing but compliment him but maybe that is because he watched the show and realized ct never bashed adam once behind his back minus the 140 lb chicken wing comment which was funny.. Adam was so easily manipulated by jek and wes though it is tough to decide but i wouldnt doubt if he did
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;377165]Cara has won 2 by her self which is more then Theresa. I don't see why everyone thinks Theresa is so great. I think Jordan would but its likely that he'd never vs Zach in a handcuffs or pole wrestle for obvious reasons[/QUOTE] The challenge career of Therflopsa, analyzed. -skated until the end on FM2 cause she was on one of the 3 weakest teams and her partner played that to their advantage politically while she ran around being the sloppy/thirsty rookie. Lost endurance elimination to Jenn, a 4 time last place finisher in finals. -On Cutthroat, she skated to the end because Emily wasn't afraid to go in an elimination and Katie was the team's primary target for half the season. Lost in elimination. -On Rivals, got sent into an elimination early because people felt Camila was a threat. Lost elimination. -On Rivals 2, tricked all the teams into letting her win a challenge (only smart thing she's ever done). made sloppy political decisions that led to downfall. Lost elimination. Conclusion: Theresa hasn't proven herself after 4 seasons (about 30 episodes of TV). Like Jasmine, except equal size to the rest of the competition and not funny at all. Mostly everyone if not everybody could beat her in an elimination round.
[QUOTE=Rockstar;377169]The challenge career of Therflopsa, analyzed. -skated until the end on FM2 cause she was on one of the 3 weakest teams and her partner played that to their advantage politically while she ran around being the sloppy/thirsty rookie. Lost endurance elimination to Jenn, a 4 time last place finisher in finals. -On Cutthroat, she skated to the end because Emily wasn't afraid to go in an elimination and Katie was the team's primary target for half the season. Lost in elimination. -On Rivals, got sent into an elimination early because people felt Camila was a threat. Lost elimination. -On Rivals 2, tricked all the teams into letting her win a challenge (only smart thing she's ever done). made sloppy political decisions that led to downfall. Lost elimination. Conclusion: Theresa hasn't proven herself after 4 seasons (about 30 episodes of TV). Like Jasmine, except equal size to the rest of the competition and not funny at all. Mostly everyone if not everybody could beat her in an elimination round.[/QUOTE] - She was carrying more weight than ryan was. -Tina threw the competition for tori. -Theresa and camilia were actually winning the whole time against laurel and cara maria. If you pause in the middle of that challenge you'll see they were winning by a lot, I don't even know how they lost. They lost to the second best female team and in the missions they finished in the top two or three every time for the females. -Jasmine was her partner.
[QUOTE=jojorules;377168]Adam did do a bit of a complete 180 on how he saw ct its almost as id he felt guilty.. Even on the show when ct and him were getting along he talked bad about ct to kenny evan johnny wes. Than after the show he did nothing but compliment him but maybe that is because he watched the show and realized ct never bashed adam once behind his back minus the 140 lb chicken wing comment which was funny.. Adam was so easily manipulated by jek and wes though it is tough to decide but i wouldnt doubt if he did[/QUOTE] maybe they promised him some money If he threw the elimination, wouldn't be surprise.
[QUOTE=Rockstar;377169]The challenge career of Therflopsa, analyzed. -skated until the end on FM2 cause she was on one of the 3 weakest teams and her partner played that to their advantage politically while she ran around being the sloppy/thirsty rookie. Lost endurance elimination to Jenn, a 4 time last place finisher in finals. -On Cutthroat, she skated to the end because Emily wasn't afraid to go in an elimination and Katie was the team's primary target for half the season. Lost in elimination. -On Rivals, got sent into an elimination early because people felt Camila was a threat. Lost elimination. -On Rivals 2, tricked all the teams into letting her win a challenge (only smart thing she's ever done). made sloppy political decisions that led to downfall. Lost elimination. Conclusion: Theresa hasn't proven herself after 4 seasons (about 30 episodes of TV). Like Jasmine, except equal size to the rest of the competition and not funny at all. Mostly everyone if not everybody could beat her in an elimination round.[/QUOTE] You're acting as if she cost herself the Exile win on FM2. Ryan was practically dying. The only reason they did well in missions was because of Theresa. She got paired with one of the worst guys in Challenge history. Lost an elimination round where she had to face Tina first and was also thrown to Tori. You also forgot to note that Theresa did very well in 2/3 missions and nearly beat Ev/Paula, along with Camila. They lost to Laurel and a motivated CM. She was also sacked with Jasmine.
[QUOTE=TheCloser;377171]- She was carrying more weight than ryan was. -Tina threw the competition for tori. -Theresa and camilia were actually winning the whole time against laurel and cara maria. If you pause in the middle of that challenge you'll see they were winning by a lot, I don't even know how they lost. They lost to the second best female team and in the missions they finished in the top two or three every time for the females. -Jasmine was her partner.[/QUOTE] Jasmine was Jonna's partner and they came in forth so its not impossible to do well with jasmine
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;377174]Jasmine was Jonna's partner and they came in forth so its not impossible to do well with jasmine[/QUOTE] No, but you're not winning with Jasmine as your partner. The only reason Jonna/Jasmine got that far was because Paula wanted to take out Camila/Theresa or Laurel/CM first.
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;377165]I think Jordan would but its likely that he'd never vs Zach in a handcuffs or pole wrestle for obvious reasons[/QUOTE] I just realized this...if Jordan ever has to go into an elimination round, they can't ever make him do something physical like pole wrestling that involves fingers because that will obviously be unfair. So in a twisted sort of way...he might actually have a little bit of an advantage over the other guys, because he'll never have to do those types of elimination rounds.
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;377174]Jasmine was Jonna's partner and they came in forth so its not impossible to do well with jasmine[/QUOTE] That's true if you are skating under the radar
[QUOTE=toenails;377176]I just realized this...if Jordan ever has to go into an elimination round, they can't ever make him do something physical like pole wrestling that involves fingers because that will obviously be unfair. So in a twisted sort of way...he might actually have a little bit of an advantage over the other guys, because he'll never have to do those types of elimination rounds.[/QUOTE] I think they will either tape all hands like they did on Rivals 2 or they just do it with only one hand on the pole/stick .
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;377173]You're acting as if she cost herself the Exile win on FM2. Ryan was practically dying. The only reason they did well in missions was because of Theresa. She got paired with one of the worst guys in Challenge history. Lost an elimination round where she had to face Tina first and was also thrown to Tori. You also forgot to note that Theresa did very well in 2/3 missions and nearly beat Ev/Paula, along with Camila. They lost to Laurel and a motivated CM. She was also sacked with Jasmine.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=TheCloser;377171]- She was carrying more weight than ryan was. -Tina threw the competition for tori. -Theresa and camilia were actually winning the whole time against laurel and cara maria. If you pause in the middle of that challenge you'll see they were winning by a lot, I don't even know how they lost. They lost to the second best female team and in the missions they finished in the top two or three every time for the females. -Jasmine was her partner.[/QUOTE] The Theresa excuse committee came out quick that time :02.47-tranquillity: - Still lost to a team they probably weighed more than(and a female she weighed more than and had a much longer stride than) -Tina talks a bunch of ****, she was probably just embarrased that Tori punked her out so quickly. What would be her motivation to hand it to one over the other? - Nearly winning 2 challenges, is that like being kind of pregnant? - Jasmine was her partner and they lost on that stick challenge that relied on [U]communication[/U], which is a [U]two[/U] person effort. They then lost in an elimination to a team with two players stronger than Theresa. Jasmine has won both an actual challenge where everyone was trying and an elimination before. Has Theresa?
[QUOTE=GDInstall;377178]I think they will either tape all hands like they did on Rivals 2 or they just do it with only one hand on the pole/stick .[/QUOTE] Putting tape on hands would be dumb because they would need to remove the pole from someone else's hands
[QUOTE=Npresh24;377151]I feel like Everyone is forgetting that at one point all of these Veterans were fresh faces then they were given a chance at some point to control the game , I don't understand why people think this generation doesn't deserve the same chance.[/QUOTE] THANK YOU! People on here act like these tired old vets that we've seen a thousand times are the only ones that control the game and make it to the end and that Irritates me. This generation has as much right to play the game like everyone else does and they deserve the same chance just like these old entitled vets got their chance.
[QUOTE=Rockstar;377158]I think someone like Tyler has matured greatly from the catty party monster he was on Key West and they are probably no longer interested in him.[B] Homosexual hookups scare the 12 year olds [/B]and he didn't bring much drama on Cutthroat or Rivals If I remember correctly (except for the under appreciated "NO RUNNING AROUND THE PIANO!" line during the Laurel vs. Everyone fight).[/QUOTE] Yet they have no Problem showing every damn Lesbian hookup on the show.
[QUOTE=JL81790;377156]Are you saying that he doesn't go into enough elimination rounds? You do realize he's gone in every season aside from this past one and the Inferno 3 right? Every other show he's done he's gone in. Plus, every show that he won, he went in at least once (twice on the Island). Compare that to Darrell who went in one time in all four of his wins.[/QUOTE] Suuuuuuuuuuuure.
At least Darrell doesn't treat everyone like ****

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