[QUOTE=KingKenny;377096]yeah the all time money winner,tied for most wins...yeah he definitely isn't good at these shows ...[/QUOTE]
I'm sure he was saying Johnny was not entertaining , Which I agree with , Johnny has my respect for being able to pull of that many wins but albait , He has never done a show like Seasons or FM , Where he has to compketely rely on himself or making new alliances and that is something that needs to be taken into account ,. Johnny has always been a Vulgar *** imho and my main issue with him on the challenges is he feels entilted to not only every final due to winning a few seasons but he feels he deserves to be called everytime which I don't think he desrves or anyone really 2 seasons in a row should be the new limit their are literally 29 seasons of RW , 14 seasons of RR and 2 FM seasons as well as Spring Breakers (Who are on contract till 2015 ) to appear on future challenges it baffles me that they can't some how find a sensible realistic entertaining fresh faced cast of 28-32.
[QUOTE=KIsOpenDoors;377110]Fwiw, I definitely agree that the game is super loaded to help out producers' favorites. The Island is perhaps the best example. Not sure I buy everything you said, especially with regards to Exes, but the cards are definitely stacked for people who the producers believe are able to draw in ratings. I think Seasons was one of the least manipulated shows based on the way eliminations were determined, but looking at the pairs for Rivals and Rivals II, I don't see how anyone can deny this.
The last part of your post is also pretty damn interesting to me. I've heard from other people that a lot of cast members end up living in fairly ****** parts of Hollywood after doing the Real World and a Challenge or two, and their egos are through the roof (I heard one of the biggest egos belonged to a female from your season). In my limited experience with cast members, I have only positive things to say, but it's certainly funny to me that some people are going to be super egotistical, especially when they're in a position where they're struggling to make ends meet and are working as waiters or bartenders in Venice.[/QUOTE]
CT is actually really nice and approachable. Carley from fresh meat 2 was also great. I ran into Cara and Abram and Abram was really cool had a full conversation with him, Cara was a complete *****. that was my only encounter with her though so it's possible it was just awful timing.
[QUOTE=Npresh24;377113]I'm sure he was saying Johnny was not entertaining , Which I agree with , Johnny has my respect for being able to pull of that many wins but albait , He has never done a show like Seasons or FM , Where he has to compketely rely on himself or making new alliances and that is something that needs to be taken into account ,. Johnny has always been a Vulgar *** imho and my main issue with him on the challenges is he feels entilted to not only every final due to winning a few seasons but he feels he deserves to be called everytime which I don't think he desrves or anyone really 2 seasons in a row should be the new limit their are literally 29 seasons of RW , 14 seasons of RR and 2 FM seasons as well as Spring Breakers (Who are on contract till 2015 ) to appear on future challenges it baffles me that they can't some how find a sensible realistic entertaining fresh faced cast of 28-32.[/QUOTE]
I agree with everything you said except the challenge limit. I don't think there should be a limit to how many challenges you can do but I do think they should just not call them as much. Like say start casting people every other season or maybe cast certain people every couple of challenges. I mean there is no reason to Cast Sarah on 7 challenges straight it's unnecessary. The same goes for Paula, Johnny, Wes, CT, and the cast members that are coming up on veteran status.
Oh and the Fresh Meat as Well.
[QUOTE=JustinS76;377115]CT is actually rspeculationice and approachable. Carley from fresh meat 2 was also great. I ran into Cara and Abram and Abram was really cool had a full conversation with him, Cara was a complete *****. that was my only encounter with her though so it's possible it was just awful timing.[/QUOTE]
The only cast member ive met is brooke. She is cool but let's say theren isnt much change since her appearance on duel 2. I had a friend of mine meet wes and johanna were dating, wes was actually really nice and charming, joahanna was a complete *****. Can't always judge everyone bynthe challenge. Nate has it correct.
Anyways, back on subject do we have any speculation yet if someone has gone home?
Wow I'm glad no one listens to these posts, no thank you to these requests to have a fresh cast every time, I actually enjoy watching the vets it's fun and entertaining for me, having all new people would be horrible, it'd be like having an NFL year with only rookies out of college, sure you wouldn't have the experienced players and things would be even but where's the fun in that?
Every sport and every competition has veteran players, in sports they're the ones who get the big contracts and who people want to see, this whole keep certain people away mindset would be horrible for the show, fan favorites should always be included I don't care how many in a row its been
[QUOTE=Snake19;377121]Wow I'm glad no one listens to these posts, no thank you to these requests to have a fresh cast every time, I actually enjoy watching the vets it's fun and entertaining for me, having all new people would be horrible, it'd be like having an NFL year with only rookies out of college, sure you wouldn't have the experienced players and things would be even but where's the fun in that?
Every sport and every competition has veteran players, in sports they're the ones who get the big contracts and who people want to see, this whole keep certain people away mindset would be horrible for the show, fan favorites should always be included I don't care how many in a row its been[/QUOTE]
Yeah same here. I would much rather see Johnny Bananas than people like preston, derek chavez, jd, chet, robb, jessica, etc...
That's why BOTS2 did so poorly.
What BM needs to do is continue to invite veterans but also have thew new guys there so that eventually they can start having less and less veterans when we're used to the new guys assuming that they'll become anywhere near as entertaining as people like CT or Wes.
When it comes to the female cast however, I'm fine with having girls like Laurel, Theresa, and Nia (assuming she'll be entertaining as hell next challenge) than girls like Evelyn or Paula.
But for guys there just isn't anyone that can match up to CT's ********** or Johnny's political game.
and also lol at Tyrie's responses on this site. Just lol.
[QUOTE=Nostalgic;377104]That was a low blow. You're obviously a Kennmy fan, ksml@you. Opinion mute[/QUOTE]
There's no arguing with a Kenny fan, some how Kenny is a hero and everyone else is terrible.
My list for this seasons best competitors excluding people we haven't seen compete
Veterans
Guys
Ct
Johnny
Chet
Leroy
Ty
Brandon
Eric
Girls
Laurel
Aneesa
Camilla
Cara maria
Jonna
Theresa
Jasmine
Rookies
Zach
Jordan
Frank
Cohutta
Dustin
Girls
Nany
Jemmye
Emily
Jessica
Devyn
That's good to hear about Wes, cause he is so awful/great and He has seemed to perfect his interview character of "disappointed know it all *********." It makes me happy that he is just a Beth-like character and not actually a bad guy in real life(which Is what I expected).
Johanna always struck me as overrated (wasn't even the best looking girl on her season), hypocritical and mean. Still don't understand how a girl from an equatorial country was always sunburnt all these years later.
No surprise Abram was awesome in real life, to be expected. Cara Maria being a jerk is disappointing.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;377119]I agree with everything you said except the challenge limit. I don't think there should be a limit to how many challenges you can do but I do think they should just not call them as much. Like say start casting people every other season or maybe cast certain people every couple of challenges..[/QUOTE]
I definitely agree with this part. The problem is that the pool is so small now and not enough people say yes for them to have a completely new cast from season to season. Lex said something like there was one maybe per three no's and one definitely yes for three maybes. That's how we get seven seasons of Cara Maria.
But at the same time, they aren't going for people who DO want to be on the show. Carley comes to mind - she's open to doing more, but they haven't put her on another. Joi wants to do one. We're getting LaToya now, but she's been wanting to do one. Ashley Kelsey wasn't even asked, apparently. And God forbid they cast someone from DC who isn't Ty or Emily. I'm sure a bunch of people DID say no, but there ARE people out there willing to say yes - IMO, they aren't looking hard enough.
[QUOTE=Youssarian;377134]But at the same time, they aren't going for people who DO want to be on the show. Carley comes to mind - she's open to doing more, but they haven't put her on another. Joi wants to do one. We're getting LaToya now, but she's been wanting to do one. Ashley Kelsey wasn't even asked, apparently. And God forbid they cast someone from DC who isn't Ty or Emily.[/QUOTE]
Joi seem athletic and tall,She seem pretty desperate to be on a challenge. But you really think they would asked her to be on over the other 4 girls of her season. At the end of the day it's a reality tv show:
Joi Real world appearance:
1. First episode when they meet.
2. Second Episode she wasn't really shown.
3. When she left.
I think They should have ask Carley to do another one, I would have like to see her dynamic with Laurel.
Ashley Kelsey is wall paper, but I would have preferred to see her over Jessica.
The DC cast were interesting in doing a challenge, but by the looks of it they moved one and don't care anymore.
Ashlee from New Orleans was an alternative for Battle of The Seasons, but I don't know if she have been asked after that.
In Joi's defense, once they found out she was leaving (because her bf got injured and needed surgery). They purposefully reduced her time by editing her out. This is why she was not shown at all during Episode 2. It was BMP reducing her appearance because they were not fond of her leaving.
[QUOTE=Desertpuma;377136]In Joi's defense, once they found out she was leaving (because her bf got injured and needed surgery). They purposefully reduced her time by editing her out. This is why she was not shown at all during Episode 2. It was BMP reducing her appearance because they were not fond of her leaving.[/QUOTE]
I feel like Joi was more of a wall paper and didn't brought anything to the table story line wise. If they were not fond of her leaving, do you think they are going to ask her for a challenge? It's not like Portland had great ratings.
[QUOTE=PinkRose;377137]I feel like Joi was more of a wall paper and didn't brought anything to the table story line wise. If they were not fond of her leaving, do you think they are going to ask her for a challenge? It's not like Portland had great ratings.[/QUOTE]
Honestly, I would still have her on a Challenge if she wants it. She chose to be with a loved one during a medical situation and be there to support them. It is not like it was an arbitrary decision either. She did not have much to add to any possible storyline because she was not there long enough.
Most , if not all of the Portland cast actually likes Joi which is rare after someone leaves on these types of shows. That says a lot about the whole situation. I'm sure she'll be asked to do one eventually if they keep doing challenges.
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;377125]My list for this seasons best competitors excluding people we haven't seen compete
Veterans
Guys
Ct
Johnny
Chet
Leroy
Ty
Brandon
Eric
Girls
Laurel
Aneesa
Camilla
Cara maria
Jonna
Theresa
Jasmine
Rookies
Zach
Jordan
Frank
Cohutta
Dustin
Girls
Nany
Jemmye
Emily
Jessica
Devyn[/QUOTE]
is this a joke?
[QUOTE=Youssarian;377134]But at the same time, they aren't going for people who DO want to be on the show. Carley comes to mind - she's open to doing more, but they haven't put her on another. Joi wants to do one. We're getting LaToya now, but she's been wanting to do one. Ashley Kelsey wasn't even asked, apparently. And God forbid they cast someone from DC who isn't Ty or Emily. I'm sure a bunch of people DID say no, but there ARE people out there willing to say yes - IMO, they aren't looking hard enough.[/QUOTE]
I agree they aren't looking hard enough I mean Ruthie has expressed how she wants to do one and I remember Veronica saying something about doing one even though she's out of shape now as long as she could do it with her girls (Rachel and Tina). Someone also said how Shane is open to do them too and there's others who said they would do them if they worked on the conditions or the whole fighting rule, because it's starting to go towards more bad girls club. I just don't get it, kinda saddens me a bit.
[QUOTE=Snake19;377121]Wow I'm glad no one listens to these posts, no thank you to these requests to have a fresh cast every time, I actually enjoy watching the vets it's fun and entertaining for me, having all new people would be horrible,[B] it'd be like having an NFL year with only rookies out of college, sure you wouldn't have the experienced players and things would be even but where's the fun in that?[/B]
Every sport and every competition has veteran players, in sports they're the ones who get the big contracts and who people want to see, this whole keep certain people away mindset would be horrible for the show, fan favorites should always be included I don't care how many in a row its been[/QUOTE]
It would be very fun and it would be a lot less predictable I know that for sure and Nobody said keep people away. I just don't think it's necessary to have Paula cast for 10 damn seasons straight. I don't care how much of a fan favorite she is and the same goes for Johnny/CT/Wes/Cara Maria and even some of the new kids that are coming up on veteran status. Somehow They need to let these new challengers develop. Granted the new generation is getting the attention it deserves but the way they initially went about it is just no good.
[QUOTE=Nostalgic;377101]He's not. he has to manipulate folks....[/QUOTE]
You do realize that manipulation is part of the game, right? And there's nobody better than the banana man
"All is fair in love, war, and challenges"
[QUOTE=KIsOpenDoors;377112]Fully agree with you on this. The Cult of Johnny Backpack is very hard for me to understand. He has never shown himself to be an elite competitor like CT, even though he is certainly above average. However, he's been able to get people to do his bidding for him ever since The Island, where he didn't even win a face-off. And as horribly as he treats Camila, she will always go to bat for him. Hope it changes this time around. I am a little optimistic just b/c she's on the same team as Laurel and Cara Maria who are two of the only girls who hate Johnny and aren't the least bit of afraid of him.[/QUOTE]
Your gonna be disappointed then ... cuz Laurel hates Big Easy more than Johnny and she's gonna care more about winning than anything else ... Johnny/CT/LeRoy/Ty have the numbers for the guys on that team and are the best players ... Camilla and Laurel are gonna be working with them to get rid of the Jasmines and Big Easys on their team
Also sure CT is better physically than Johnny but so what ... he's better than everyone there physically, do you only cheer for him?
Johnny is a better strategist as proven by his 4 wins
[QUOTE=Debut Album;377119]I agree with everything you said except the challenge limit. I don't think there should be a limit to how many challenges you can do but I do think they should just not call them as much. Like say start casting people every other season or maybe cast certain people every couple of challenges. I mean there is no reason to Cast Sarah on 7 challenges straight it's unnecessary. The same goes for Paula, Johnny, Wes, CT, and the cast members that are coming up on veteran status
Oh and the Fresh Meat as Well.[/QUOTE]
No I was saying they should only be allowed to do 2 in a row and then they should not be asked for the 3rd but could return for the 4th and 5th one but then take a break from The 6th snd so on.
[QUOTE=Youssarian;377134]But at the same time, they aren't going for people who DO want to be on the show. Carley comes to mind - she's open to doing more, but they haven't put her on another. Joi wants to do one. We're getting LaToya now, but she's been wanting to do one. Ashley Kelsey wasn't even asked, apparently. And God forbid they cast someone from DC who isn't Ty or Emily. I'm sure a bunch of people DID say no, but there ARE people out there willing to say yes - IMO, they aren't looking hard enough.[/QUOTE]
I couldn't agree more. I wanted to see Ashley Kelsey really bad. I wonder if CJ was asked. There are plenty of better people they could of asked who I know wanted to do one. This cast seems like they just threw it together last mintue. The only people who are kind of new I'm excited to see back are Cohutta, Emilee, and Laurel.
[QUOTE=Snake19;377121]Wow I'm glad no one listens to these posts, no thank you to these requests to have a fresh cast every time, I actually enjoy watching the vets it's fun and entertaining for me, having all new people would be horrible, it'd be like having an NFL year with only rookies out of college, sure you wouldn't have the experienced players and things would be even but where's the fun in that?
Every sport and every competition has veteran players, in sports they're the ones who get the big contracts and who people want to see, this whole keep certain people away mindset would be horrible for the show, fan favorites should always be included I don't care how many in a row its been[/QUOTE]
I feel like Everyone is forgetting that at one point all of these Veterans were fresh faces then they were given a chance at some point to control the game , I don't understand why people think this generation doesn't deserve the same chance.
[QUOTE=alaskak94;377152]It still upsets me they dropped Tyler and kept Eric. Worst decision ever.[/QUOTE]
I don't particularly care for either of them, but if I had to choose one to be on this cast I would choose Eric, because I would prefer for the teams to be as balanced as possible. It is no fun to watch one team win everything. It may not be fair to Eric, but I never really look at him as part of the cast. Instead, he is just another challenge for his team to work around.
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