How are the relationships of [strike]Dustin[/strike] [B]Johnny[/B] and [B]Frank[/B] with the women?
Are Nany and Jonna on good terms with Frank?
And how is the relationship between Johnny and Camila?
Do you think they have enough influence to control the votes?
[QUOTE=Feel-X;348579]How are the relationships of [strike]Dustin[/strike] [B]Johnny[/B] and [B]Frank[/B] with the women?
Are Nany and Jonna on good terms with Frank?
And how is the relationship between Johnny and Camila?
Do you think they have enough influence to control the votes?[/QUOTE]
I don't know much,but judging by social media Frank and Jonna are still very good friends,have no idea about the rest,i'm not sure about the votes because their strongest/only true allies seem to be Paula/Em(maybe Camila/Jemmye) and that's it so it all depends on the alliances in the house
[B]Even though the challenge hasn't aired yet, I won't hold my breath that my opinion of Frank will change. For him to call out others about causing drama, is the pot calling the kettle black. Unless....Frank is hoping for another twitter war to guarantee his next partner for a possible future challenge. [/B]
At first I found Johnny to be this obnoxious, loud-mouth competitor -- and he is, but he's grown on me. I would like to see him make it to the final Challenge, however, I dislike Frank too much to root for the team. I would like to see this team last long enough for CT to smoke Frank, but not long enough to get to a final challenge or send home a favorable team.
I'm curious, why is Frank on another challenge? I kept up with what the fans thought of Frank last year and he sure wasn't one of the fan-favorites. In fact, he was a popular answer for least favorite. (There are people who like Frank!) If MTV wanted more viewers, why do they continue to put unlikable people into "The Challenge?" Or, does Frank in with the "new" MTV? *serious question*
I liked Johnny until the Island when his catchphrase became: "Ya dumb *****!" but there was some karmic payback delivered on Cutthroat courtesy of CT. Bananas is okay and definitely a competitor.
My only, I hesitate to say, exposure to Frank is Seasons where he proved to be a worthless ******* or a petulant little child or a blend of both.
[QUOTE=Rainhello;348591]
I'm curious, why is Frank on another challenge? I kept up with what the fans thought of Frank last year and he sure wasn't one of the fan-favorites. In fact, he was a popular answer for least favorite. (There are people who like Frank!) If MTV wanted more viewers, why do they continue to put unlikable people into "The Challenge?" Or, does Frank in with the "new" MTV? *serious question*[/QUOTE]
I'm sure they just casted him for the fact that many people want that he gets punched and with hotheads like CT, Johnny, Zach, Jordan, Trey and Tyrie plus the fact that the bar for violence is hight now, the possibility is pretty high people will get their wish.
But you have to give Frank credit for being a good athlete and loud mouth who apparently doesn't give a **** about fan favs. And with Johnny as his partner, they are a big force to be reckoned with and the other teams should get rid of them as soon as possible, because if they get to the final they are tough to be.
I really don't think Dustin is banned from challenges. I even think he was called to do Rivals 2 and be partnered with Frank but, I guess he chose not to. I really think Dustin is just not that interested in doing challenges. And as for Evan and Kenny I think MTV/BMP really just wanted to take them off of the Challenge for a couple of seasons to let the accusation die down. I feel like the next challenge they should be back kind of how they did CT on the first Rivals.
People listen... As much as everyone hates Frank... the guy is good TV. He brings drama, starts fights, get in people's faces. That's what brings in the viewers/ratings.
[QUOTE=Fullback12;348649]People listen... As much as everyone hates Frank... the guy is good TV. He brings drama, starts fights, get in people's faces. That's what brings in the viewers/ratings.[/QUOTE]
Agreed, as much as he annoys me, half the fights wouldn't have happened last season if it weren't for him being there.
[QUOTE=Fullback12;348649]People listen... As much as everyone hates Frank... the guy is good TV. He brings drama, starts fights, get in people's faces. That's what brings in the viewers/ratings.[/QUOTE]
Yeah not true.
Frank brings the kind of drama that turns people off because of how abusive he is. He's not fun drama that you can laugh at, he's the kind of drama that makes you go "Seriously, get this guy off of my tv." Hence why the two shows he's been prominently featured on TANKED in the ratings after doing great the season beforehand. In fact, if Real World does get canceled, I'm blaming him for starting the downfall.
[QUOTE=Fullback12;348649]People listen... As much as everyone hates Frank... the guy is good TV. He brings drama, starts fights, get in people's faces. That's what brings in the viewers/ratings.[/QUOTE]
Well last season did pretty bad and I thought all their fighting was so fake and annoying, only good one was frank/zach cause they were arguing about the team but the rest, after they finished yelling I was thinking *** was that fight about? It was more like oh look Frank and this person are yelling now, now its Frank and that girl, oh someone just fell
[QUOTE=Fullback12;348649]People listen... As much as everyone hates Frank... the guy is[B] good TV. He [/B][B]brings drama, starts fights, get in people's faces[/B]. That's what brings in the viewers/ratings.[/QUOTE]
Yet every time he does something of that he blames either the alcool or his "opponent" and how he's so intelligent than he and not really face to face, but he usually choose twitter for that. However like I said, he's a good competitor.
Funny how almost nobody talks about Johnny here even though he was one of the biggest villains of this site before Frank/Nia stepped foot into RW. I'm sure how this time works, because I don't see anybody of them to take a step back.
[QUOTE=Fullback12;348649]People listen... As much as everyone hates Frank... [B]the guy is good TV[/B]. He brings drama, starts fights, get in people's faces. [B]That's what brings in the viewers/ratings[/B].[/QUOTE]
Data relative to Frank's RW and Challenge seasons seem to suggest otherwise.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;348654]Yeah not true.
Frank brings the kind of drama that turns people off because of how abusive he is.[/QUOTE]
Totally agree. It's one thing to try to get under someone's skin. But you have to do it with some sense of humor and make a joke about it like Kenny and Wes do it. But he is just malicious and in my opinion he crosses the line with his insults. Even though Nany has forgiven him, when he insulted her sister I hated him. And not in a good "I like to hate him" way, more in "I want really bad things happen to him" way.
But he is not the only one who does this on the show. Laurel does it too and there are others who also do it sometimes.
[QUOTE=Fullback12;348649]People listen... As much as everyone hates Frank... the guy is good TV. He brings drama, starts fights, get in people's faces. That's what brings in the viewers/ratings.[/QUOTE]
Completely false and the numbers prove that.
Wow. seriously in the episode when Dustin slapped/shoved Frank's face that was the most viewed episode last season. And if you look back at BOTS trailer all you see is Frank getting into fights/getting into peoples's faces. And we all know that the trailer is the thing that pulls people in to watch the show. Put it this way if Frank wasn't on BOTS no episode would have reached 1 million because, no one else really started drama in the house.
And if MTV/BMP thought Frank was bringing the viewers down don't you guys think they would have never cast him on another season. I don't care what no one says Frank is the most talked about person/topic on this season except maybe for CT. And all I read on the internet is people talking about" I can't wait to see CT or some veterans put Frank in his place." So my point exactly you want to see someone put him in his place so that basically means you kind of want to see him again.
[QUOTE=Fullback12;348666]Wow. seriously in the episode when Dustin slapped/shoved Frank's face that was the most viewed episode last season. And if you look back at BOTS trailer all you see is Frank getting into fights/getting into peoples's faces. And we all know that the trailer is the thing that pulls people in to watch the show. Put it this way if Frank wasn't on BOTS no episode would have reached 1 million because, no one else really started drama in the house.[/QUOTE]
Completely disagree--see the rating for his Real World season as well
[QUOTE=Fullback12;348669]I don't care what[B] no one[/B] says Frank is the most talked about person/topic on this season except maybe for CT.[/QUOTE]
This sums it up
What do you mean completely disagree He carried his RW season and BOTS so what are you talking about... he brought both of those seasons up in viewers?
[QUOTE=Fullback12;348676]What do you mean completely disagree He carried his RW season and BOTS so what are you talking about... he brought both of those seasons up in viewers?[/QUOTE]
No, he didn't...he drove them away
[QUOTE=Fullback12;348676]What do you mean completely disagree He carried his RW season and BOTS so what are you talking about... he brought both of those seasons up in viewers?[/QUOTE]
He was the main character but that doesnt mean he's any good for ratings, its just that the rest of the people were boring wall paper and he stood out cause he's the loudest and most annoying, if Wes was still there he would be the center of attention and they cast him cause as you said ppl want CT to smash him
[QUOTE=Fullback12;348678]Hmmm if that's true I wonder why MTV/BMP keep casting him? *Sarcasm intended*[/QUOTE]
They've used him 2 out of 3 times--part of the reason is they don't exactly have people dying to be on the challenge. Keep believing what you want--I deal with actual numbers not "beliefs"
[QUOTE=JL81790;348681]They keep casting Dunbar too...[/QUOTE]
And countless others that don't have a legit fan base and that people aren't interested in seeing any more
Have you seen the trailer for Rivals 2? Obviously you haven't because You hardly see Wes. But who do you see all over the trailer Frank, the only person you see more then him is CT. Not Wes.
No it's because he brrings in people to watch... especially if it has something to do with him getting hurt,punched,slapped etc. the numbers will go through the roof.
[QUOTE=Fullback12;348689]No it's because he brrings in people to watch... especially if it has something to do with him getting hurt,punched,slapped etc. the numbers will go through the roof.[/QUOTE]
Did the numbers go through the roof when he attacked Nany and Dustin on a personal level and Dustin shoved him down?
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