The Challenge: Rivals II - Johnny & Frank

wow JB looks way smaller then Battle of the exes!

and older....

I hate Johnny's hair like this. And Yes he does look a lot older.

Don't know about these two. They both are winners and I hate Johnny(but don't mind Frank)so I'm not sure if i'm gonna be rooting for them.

Definitely the loudest & most annoying team this season. I think I will be tremendously happy if/when this team gets eliminated. By the way, Johnny's hair looks like crap.

Good to see Johnny back. But I wish he didn't have such a good partner. I really enjoy him on the show, but it's better when other people win. Plus Frank just won last season as well. And yeah, his hair is just...

I'll admit, I hated Johnny in the past; but he's starting to grow on me just a bit...but then there's Frank; I cannot stand the guy! Still, this is a strong team, and I think they'll go far into the challenge.

Johnny is like Jon Brennan from the Real World LA compared to Frank. I mean Frank's already trying to subweet about CT on twitter and you know CT doesn't run his mouth on the internet so obviously he's not going to reply to him. He probably doesn't even know Frank is talking about him on twitter, he's too busy living life. I can't wait to see CT shove and punk him. I just wish Frank didn't have such a good partner, I wish it was just an individual challenge (Duel) to see how Frank swims in the deep waters.

While I respect Bananas, I cannot stand Frank. I think Challenges are getting Bananas and maybe in the next Challenge after this, he'll show up with gray hairs.

Frank, not really a fan. Bananas, certainly warming up to him. Both are fantastic all-around competitors who are easily smart enough to put egos and BS aside to win some cash. While CT & Wes may be a threat, I'd say THIS team is hands down the best pair on the show from a competition standpoint.

What happened to Johnny? He looks so old.

Johnny looked really good on Exes ,now he looks old and out of shape,he seems years older than last time we saw him and it`s only been a year and few months,age is really starting to get to him,maybe it`s time to grow up

Johnny hasn't really interacted much with anyone on twitter. Which is really strange but I guess he is too caught up with his girlfriend considering thats like all of his tweets. Anyway they're going to be a strong team and I'm rooting for them, mainly because I love Johnny.

Man if Evan and Kenny aren't on the next challenge I might go crazy...

LOL Frank's on twitter talking about how grown men that fight in the real world are "insecure p**sies". So what does that make Frank? A sub-tweeting, trash-talking, no-action, gossiping drama queen who has probably never ventured out of west L.A. due to an extreme lack of lower body hair. I love seeing Johnny on these challenges though, which makes me even more mad seeing as how he's paired up with this drag queen lol and I hate to say it but this pair has some extreme conditioning and that's what wins finals. And to Fullback12, @TeamCTamburello tweeted to Kenny goodluck on his surgery and that he needs to be back to put these scrubs in their place or something like that and Kenny tweeted back saying "soon" so there is still hope my friend.

Lol at Frank being all "disgusted" with violence on Twitter now, when he was the main one last season trying everything in his power to get someone to hit so he could say "OMG HE HIT ME, HE HIT ME, SEND HIM HOME!!1!11".

[QUOTE=Gucci Mane;348394]Lol at Frank being all "disgusted" with violence on Twitter now, when he was the main one last season trying everything in his power to get someone to hit so he could say "OMG HE HIT ME, HE HIT ME, SEND HIM HOME!!1!11".[/QUOTE] None of that was on twitter though.

[QUOTE=Fullback12;348351]Man if Evan and Kenny aren't on the next challenge I might go crazy...[/QUOTE] You may want to reserve yourself a rubber room as a precautionary measure, possibly some meds too.

Was Dustin invited to be Frank's partner and declined? Seems like Johnny was a desperate move by production to get Frank casted. Twitter beef?

[QUOTE=Famous.;348540]Was Dustin invited to be Frank's partner and declined? Seems like Johnny was a desperate move by production to get Frank casted. Twitter beef?[/QUOTE] Dustin is banned from future challenges. Considering he and Heather did the more trashier reality series, Couples Therapy, my guess is he would do another challenge, if they invited him again, which they won't. Supposedly he intimidated or maybe even assaulted a female talent coordinator and delayed production. I really wish BMP would just get over whatever he did because he made great tv during BOTS. He was by far the star.

Calm down it's not that serious... but anyway the ratings for a challenge would go through the roofs if Evan and Kenny returned

[QUOTE=gbp02;348541]Dustin is banned from future challenges. Considering he and Heather did the more trashier reality series, Couples Therapy, my guess is he would do another challenge, if they invited him again, which they won't. Supposedly he intimidated or maybe even assaulted a female talent coordinator and delayed production. I really wish BMP would just get over whatever he did because he made great tv during BOTS. He was by far the star.[/QUOTE] AH! I didn't know that! He's my favorite castmember. Who confirmed that he is banned and which season did he delay?

[QUOTE=Fullback12;348542]Calm down it's not that serious... but anyway the ratings for a challenge would go through the roofs if Evan and Kenny returned[/QUOTE] Ya...doubt calls are already out, I dont know it seems clear that mtv doesnt want them back, I was watching this challenge google hangout with laurel, CT, Kenny and Ruthie and Kenny looked so disinterested and when they asked if he wants to do another he was being all whinny and looked annoyed and said I dont know, that was back in December though. I would love to see him and Evan back with Wes just cause it would be so damn awkward, but idk if thats ethically allowed, even seeing Johnny/Wes on this one is awkward enough, lol Wes is the only person that mentions the incident that is forbidden to be mentioned among the cast members. I dont know the whole thing is weird, if I found out my friend did that I wouldnt look at them the same and might not associate with them anymore but all of Kenny/Evan's challenge friends before still treat them the same, minus Wes, he went from being cordial to the 3 of them to you know. If they did come back I wonder how the alliances would be like, dont know if Johnny looks at Frank as an ally for the future now, Kenny said he would work with Zach, but Zach looks like he would ditch Frank and join Wes/CT/Trey/Knight now

[QUOTE=Famous.;348543]AH! I didn't know that! He's my favorite castmember. Who confirmed that he is banned and which season did he delay?[/QUOTE] I think it was only "confirmed" by the fact that Dustin's not on this challenge. Heather said it's time for her and Dustin to grow up when someone on twitter asked if they would do another challenge, but then they did the even cheesier reality show for VH1. To me this means he was banned. The rumor first started when Derrick Kosinski mentioned on a podcast that he heard Alton and Dustin did something to get them never invited back. Then Cara Maria said on formspring that they were not well behaved children and that they did something off camera and she hoped the rumor was true. Then Brandon on Afterbuzz briefly talked about the incident but made it seem like it was mostly Alton making the trouble. But the most detail came from Trey on Spreecast, who I think said that Dustin shoved a female employee against the wall because he didn't get enough contact with Heather, and Alton just went along with him because those two had a bromance the whole season.

[QUOTE=gbp02;348546]I think it was only "confirmed" by the fact that Dustin's not on this challenge. Heather said it's time for her and Dustin to grow up when someone on twitter asked if they would do another challenge, but then they did the even cheesier reality show for VH1. To me this means he was banned. The rumor first started when Derrick Kosinski mentioned on a podcast that he heard Alton and Dustin did something to get them never invited back. Then Cara Maria said on formspring that they were not well behaved children and that they did something off camera and she hoped the rumor was true. Then Brandon on Afterbuzz briefly talked about the incident but made it seem like it was mostly Alton making the trouble. But the most detail came from Trey on Spreecast, who I think said that Dustin shoved a female employee against the wall because he didn't get enough contact with Heather, and Alton just went along with him because those two had a bromance the whole season.[/QUOTE] Okay whoa, I already knew that they wouldn't be inviting back because him and Alton misbehaving but the whole shoving a female employee sounds a bit off. What would Trey even know when he was barely there and ignored. Also seems off how Alton always tried to straighten up Dustin and push him away from fights but goes along with when Dustin supposedly puts his hands on a female employee?. Hm.

[QUOTE=gbp02;348541][B]Dustin is banned from future challenges[/B]. Considering he and Heather did the more trashier reality series, Couples Therapy, my guess is he would do another challenge, if they invited him again, which they won't. Supposedly he intimidated or maybe even assaulted a female talent coordinator and delayed production. I really wish BMP would just get over whatever he did because he made great tv during BOTS. He was by far the star.[/QUOTE] Banned for what? I find it hard to believe that they let CT come back after getting kicked off 2 shows, one of which he probably would have paralyzed Adam if it had been in the real world, and them not letting Dustin back. Even Kenny and Evan. I mean even though the whole Ruins/Tonya case was going on during Rivals, they still casted Kenny and Evan. What did Dustin even do? I have never heard of Dustin doing anything that warrants BMP to not cast him other than production just not liking him for whatever reason. I'm not the biggest fan of Dustin but would anyone mind telling me what he did to get black marked from future challenges?

[QUOTE=gbp02;348541]Dustin is banned from future challenges. Considering he and Heather did the more trashier reality series, Couples Therapy, my guess is he would do another challenge, if they invited him again, which they won't. Supposedly he intimidated or maybe even assaulted a female talent coordinator and delayed production. I really wish BMP would just get over whatever he did because he made great tv during BOTS. He was by far the star.[/QUOTE] I heard talk of this, but when was this confirmed? From what I recall he had decided to do no more Challenges, due to his (then) plans with Heather.

From what I had heard, he basically blew up and shoved a female employee because they would not let him use the phone. Whether that was to call Heather or not, I have no idea but he basically assaulted a female member of the crew in the attempt to convince someone to give him the phone.

[QUOTE=El Scorcho;348554]Banned for what? I find it hard to believe that they let CT come back after getting kicked off 2 shows, one of which he probably would have paralyzed Adam if it had been in the real world, and them not letting Dustin back. Even Kenny and Evan. I mean even though the whole Ruins/Tonya case was going on during Rivals, they still casted Kenny and Evan. What did Dustin even do? I have never heard of Dustin doing anything that warrants BMP to not cast him other than production just not liking him for whatever reason. I'm not the biggest fan of Dustin but would anyone mind telling me what he did to get black marked from future challenges?[/QUOTE] Let me help you out with this one. Early on in the "Tonya" case, when the only thing reported was that MTV had done an internal "investigation" and no evidence to support the allegations was supposedly found, it was absolutely necessary for a "support our team" perspective for MTV to approve casting of Kenny and Evan. It would not have been until later in the legal process where it may have been that the facts actually began to unfold before the judge in pre-trial activity and discovery, that it became either desirable or necessary for MTV to drop Evan and Kenny from their pool of potential challenge cast. If Dustin did something that could be seen as assault under Calif. law, that law which controls both cast and crew contracts, then the network attorneys, outside legal counsel and the insurance underwriters would probably insist that Dustin's tenure was at an end. Such a transgression which puts the companies at risk financially is not something they are likely to "get over" -- if the rumors are even remotely true, of course.

[QUOTE=hannamez8;348547]Okay whoa, I already knew that they wouldn't be inviting back because him and Alton misbehaving but the whole shoving a female employee sounds a bit off. [B]What would Trey even know when he was barely there and ignored.[/B] Also seems off how Alton always tried to straighten up Dustin and push him away from fights but goes along with when Dustin supposedly puts his hands on a female employee?. Hm.[/QUOTE] Well... he would know more than many of us, for one.