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[QUOTE=SkylarGuy23;324916] Evidence may be skewed of the "best" players because some later challenges gave out less competitions and eliminations, therefore less people won. This was especially true with those Gauntlet challenges vs the pairs challenges. Kenny scored 2 Island points where he won (vote survival point and overall win point), but Casey scored 9 Gauntlet 3 points where she didn't even make finals, her team won 9 team missions. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=ChallengeGod;324917]Thanks for taking the time out to make that list. I don't think this list really means much in terms of determining who the best players are (case in point being Katie having the most wins). The older people have a huge advantage because all the challenges used to be just 2 teams so it was easier to rack up daily challenge wins. None of the new people will ever be able to have more wins than Katie and Derrick not only because they've been on 9 challenges but also because the challenges now are almost always pairs now (4 of the last 5 challenges have been teams of 4 or less). It would have been interesting to see who would be first if you weighted the wins, since daily challenges wins are easier to do then elimination round wins (except in partner or individual challenges), and winning a final is harder than winning a daily and an elimination combined. Again thanks for making the list sorry if Im a **** for nitpicking.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;324924]Solid list but there are 2 obvious problems: 1. It is just based on volume. If you divide it by the number of challenges they did, it gives you a better representation. 2. Everything is weighed equally. Wins with a partner or alone should be weighted more than a team victory. Some extremely unbalanced challenges, like the Gauntlet 3 or the Ruins, inflate a lot of people's stats. Then a less obvious problem is like how many missions there are per season. Starting with The Island it has been 9-10 missions (including the Final) per season whereas before that, it was 16 missions per season.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I addressed a few of the issues, one being the Gauntlets, Guys vs Girls and Infernos. It should be easy to divide the number of challenges, so I'll try that when I have time. I was thinking of a way to even out the numbers, but I couldn't think of a method that truly defines how much greater a win in All Stars meant to a win in the Gauntlet vs a win in Rivals, I could award [1 point + number of teams beaten] but that could skew evidence and help the Duelers and the newer pairs challenges. Kinda just wanted to see who said "whoo hoo! we won!" more. If I subtract team wins, and just count individual wins (life shields, head to heads, finals), we may see better represented results.

[QUOTE=SkylarGuy23;324916] Top 5 Guys 1. Derrick 2. Abram 3. Kenny 4. Darrell 5. CT Top 5 Girls 1. Katie 2. Coral 3. Evelyn 4. Susie 5. Veronica/Tonya ____________ [/QUOTE] Nice list! I had to laugh at the top 5 girls though, I read the whole thing and at right end im like oh its probably Ev or Veronica and it was Katie! That seriously made me LOL, no offence to Katie I think shes great but yea the ppl who have been on a ton of challenges have an advantage, just the words "top 5" and Katie being #1 is a little funny. [QUOTE=molds13;324923]The people I know who took graduate school seriously (particularly the MCAT and LSAT) deleted their social networking accounts while studying for "the test".[/QUOTE] Yeah but she seems like she would stay out of social networking even after her tests are done, I thought she deleted cause she was getting annoyed by the formspring questions lol I bet it was all "so and so said this about you on the podcast!!"

When it comes to eliminations should I get technical and rank based on how many they've won individually, based it off of their most recent wins or based it on how many challenges one has competed in? Some girls are undefeated with 2 or 3 wins but only from one challenge compared to some that have won 2 or 3 altogether but on separate challenges and never saw elimination again because they've made it to finals. How can I tell who's superior? I’m trying to find the most impartial way to rank. Ex. Casey is (5-3) 5 wins from one challenge, a partner challenge and has never seen a final, should she really be higher than girls like Coral whose undefeated and Tori with 2 wins and finals under their belts or girls like Diem with 1 win and finals under her belt?

[QUOTE=wutzrenzi;324938]When it comes to eliminations should I get technical and rank based on how many they've won individually, based it off of their most recent wins or based it on how many challenges one has competed in? Some girls are undefeated with 2 or 3 wins but only from one challenge compared to some that have won 2 or 3 altogether but on separate challenges and never saw elimination again because they've made it to finals. How can I tell who's superior? I’m trying to find the most impartial way to rank. Ex. Casey is (5-3) 5 wins from one challenge, a partner challenge and has never seen a final, should she really be higher than girls like Coral whose undefeated and Tori with 2 wins and finals under their belts or girls like Diem with 1 win and finals under her belt?[/QUOTE] I feel everything will always be subjective in games like these. I think Emily has the highest elimination record now for the undefeated players, perhaps if you add the wins of the players she's defeated collectively, and do that for all the undefeated women, there could be some data, but then again statistics can be skewed sometimes (my list ranks Katie as the girl with the most team/head to head wins). What I think we can do is compare how players faced off in the types of games played. Who played the best in Cutthroat? In Inferno 1-3? In Gauntlet 1-3? In what I did last night, I remember Susie and Johnny doing the best in Ruins 12 points and 10 respectively, Tyler, Laurel, and Cara Maria for Cutthroat, and Sarah Greyson for Gauntlet 1 with 14 points. It's also a social/political game as well, which often makes it hard to rank. (hence why Jenn hasn't seen a head to head since the Duel 2, or why Susie got out of the Inferno head to heads so often)

Here's an interesting fact: Ruthie has never been on a challenge without Mark.

[QUOTE=SkylarGuy23;324947][B]I feel everything will always be subjective in games like these[/B]. I think Emily has the highest elimination record now for the undefeated players, perhaps if you add the wins of the players she's defeated collectively, and do that for all the undefeated women, there could be some data, but then again statistics can be skewed sometimes (my list ranks Katie as the girl with the most team/head to head wins). What I think we can do is compare how players faced off in the types of games played. Who played the best in Cutthroat? In Inferno 1-3? In Gauntlet 1-3? In what I did last night, I remember Susie and Johnny doing the best in Ruins 12 points and 10 respectively, Tyler, Laurel, and Cara Maria for Cutthroat, and Sarah Greyson for Gauntlet 1 with 14 points. It's also a social/political game as well, which often makes it hard to rank. (hence why Jenn hasn't seen a head to head since the Duel 2, or why Susie got out of the Inferno head to heads so often)[/QUOTE] You're right, it really is. I think I came up with an interesting and fair way to rank their wins both pair and individual wins collectively without making it so complex. Making it to finals, how many challenges a player has competed in and how many eliminations a player has won per challenge played a factor in how I ranked them. It's fairly simple, would you like to see?

Just realized Shauvon is the only person to have has quit every season she has been on including The Real World. Hope shes back next season.

[QUOTE=ILoveRW;325022]Just realized Shauvon is the only person to have has quit every season she has been on including The Real World. Hope shes back next season.[/QUOTE] She didn't quit on The Duel 2.

She might've ran behind some goofball on her initial season but she never necessarily quit.

[QUOTE=El Scorcho;325026]She didn't quit on The Duel 2.[/QUOTE] Totally forgot she was on that season, oh well.

[QUOTE=ILoveRW;325022]Just realized Shauvon is the only person to have has quit every season she has been on including The Real World. Hope shes back next season.[/QUOTE] She didn't quit on the Ruins either she popped an implant.

[QUOTE=ILoveRW;325022]Just realized Shauvon is the only person to have has quit every season she has been on including The Real World. Hope shes back next season.[/QUOTE] I never want to see Shauvon again on a challenge. If you quit once I can tolerate that but not twice--and I didn't realize she quit her RW season. Why would they cast her knowing she's going to quit? She didn't quit during the Duel II--Aneesa just beat her. She actually fought that time.

[QUOTE=ChallengeGod;325042]She didn't quit on the Ruins either she popped an implant.[/QUOTE] It was just bruising, and from what the show showed, she decided to give up rather than a doctor saying she couldn't compete.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;325064]I never want to see Shauvon again on a challenge. If you quit once I can tolerate that but not twice--and I didn't realize she quit her RW season. Why would they cast her knowing she's going to quit? She didn't quit during the Duel II--Aneesa just beat her. She actually fought that time.[/QUOTE] What the hell? She didn't "quit" The Real World she left because she wanted to salvage her relationship. And yes, I would love to see her again for redemption purposes. Hell they cast Jo and she deliberately quit, so no they didn't know.

[QUOTE=Nostalgic;325119]What the hell? She didn't "quit" The Real World she left because she wanted to salvage her relationship.[/QUOTE] If that doesn't constitute quiting then what does.

[QUOTE=Nostalgic;325119]What the hell? She didn't "quit" The Real World she left because she wanted to salvage her relationship..[/QUOTE] Ummm-that's quitting. He agreed to appear on the show then quit. Seems pretty cut and dry.

NO. it's not. You don't win by being on The Real World. It's a learning experience not a competition. Shaking my head in disbelief.

I think it's fair to say she quit Real World. It's like going to college and then leaving after a semester because you can't be away from home. In this case, she couldn't be without her boyfriend. Or something like that to be honest I don't remember.

[QUOTE=Nostalgic;325119]What the hell? [B]She didn't "quit" The Real World she left because she wanted to salvage her relationship.[/B] And yes, I would love to see her again for redemption purposes. Hell they cast Jo and she deliberately quit, so no they didn't know.[/QUOTE] She decided to leave the show early because of personal reasons. That is quitting. Jenn had a bad injury on The Duel and the doctor told her not to compete and she stuck it through. There is no excuses for Shauvon quitting any of the 3 shows she has quit on.

Shauvon is a quitter. I will never disagree. If I'm not mistaken, if something really serious happens, you're allowed to leave for a few days then come back. Joey (Cancun), Danny (Austin), Rachel (San Fran), Josh (DC), Joey (Hollywood), Ruthie are a few that come to mind. She left because of her boyfriend and they STILL didn't stay together, lol. Even freakin Colie stayed and she had mono! Not to even mention Tonya's kidney stones! Lol.

[QUOTE=RubenJay05;325196]Shauvon is a quitter. I will never disagree. If I'm not mistaken, if something really serious happens, you're allowed to leave for a few days then come back. Joey (Cancun), Danny (Austin), Rachel (San Fran), Josh (DC), Joey (Hollywood), Ruthie are a few that come to mind. She left because of her boyfriend and they STILL didn't stay together, lol. Even freakin Colie stayed and she had mono! Not to even mention Tonya's kidney stones! Lol.[/QUOTE] Except Tonya's kidney situation was never that serious but potentially could have been. And no, she is not a quitter you two please get over it and move on. [QUOTE=El Scorcho;325193]She decided to leave the show early because of personal reasons. That is quitting. Jenn had a bad injury on The Duel and the doctor told her not to compete and she stuck it through. There is no excuses for Shauvon quitting any of the 3 shows she has quit on.[/QUOTE] oy vey.

[QUOTE=mph922;325190]I think it's fair to say she quit Real World. It's like going to college and then leaving after a semester because you can't be away from home. In this case, she couldn't be without her boyfriend. Or something like that to be honest I don't remember.[/QUOTE] College is different. That's to better your life. Real World not so much.

[QUOTE=RubenJay05;325196]Shauvon is a quitter. I will never disagree. If I'm not mistaken, if something really serious happens, you're allowed to leave for a few days then come back. J[B]oey (Cancun), Danny (Austin), Rachel (San Fran), Josh (DC), Joey (Hollywood), Ruthie[/B] are a few that come to mind. She left because of her boyfriend and they STILL didn't stay together, lol. Even freakin Colie stayed and she had mono! Not to even mention Tonya's kidney stones! Lol.[/QUOTE] You can add Leroy to that list as well.

[QUOTE=Nostalgic;325156]NO. it's not. You don't win by being on The Real World. It's a learning experience not a competition. Shaking my head in disbelief.[/QUOTE] You're going to be in the minority on this if not alone. She made a commitment and quit.

[QUOTE=eagles28;325214]You can add Leroy to that list as well.[/QUOTE] What in the world? Leroy's friend died and Rachel was never in any position to leave. That list baffles me...

[QUOTE=Nostalgic;325217]What in the world? Leroy's friend died and [B]Rachel was never in any position to leave[/B]. That list baffles me...[/QUOTE] Rachel had early concerns regarding living in a house with Pedro--that's the only thing I can think of

this **** has nothing to do with the challenge.

[QUOTE=YvanEhtNioj;325220]this **** has nothing to do with the challenge.[/QUOTE] We're still talking about people leaving/quitting the show either RW/RR or challenge related so essentially it does! [QUOTE=kvm1977;325219]Rachel had early concerns regarding living in a house with Pedro--that's the only thing I can think of[/QUOTE] For two seconds which they stretched for like 1-2 episodes of San Fran. She got over it.

These are probably old as dirt, but I don't mind bumping: - Brad has only won eliminations on Duels (an individual challenge) and he’s always been in physical/contact eliminations. - Nehemiah has not done a challenge without his rival Evan being on it. - During Jenn’s stay on the Duel II, 3/3 eliminations she’s competed in have been “Push Over”. - Kenny’s elimination wins have only occurred on partner challenges, otherwise he’s been sent straight home on an individual challenge or had a free ride to the finals without seeing elimination while being on team based challenges. - Just like Paula and Aneesa, Derrick and Tyler are rivals (as far as eliminations go) but they have def. not faced each other in elimination more than twice.

This is kind of interesting to me: Out of the past 8 seasons of The Real World, only four cast members have been on 3 or more challenges. Those people are Sarah, Chet, Jasmine, and Ty. I guess I shouldn't include San Diego or St. Thomas in this since it would be impossible for anyone from these two seasons to be on three or more challenges. So in 6 seasons, only four people.