Evelyn. Let her do all the work and I can party :cool:
Plus I would, in most likelihood, make some money. And all the TV time with the drama about how mad she is that I am drunk half the time.
I would either go with Jenn, because I think she would have a lot of fire to win a challenge finally. She is always a pretty solid player and she is hot.
If I wanted a better chance of winning I would go with Emily because she is a beast.
[QUOTE=Lionsfan780;313298]I would either go with Jenn, because I think she would have a lot of fire to win a challenge finally. She is always a pretty solid player and she is hot.
If I wanted a better chance of winning I would go with Emily because she is a beast.[/QUOTE]
Honestly, I wouldn't go with Jenn or Emily because the best you would do is get last in the finals.
[QUOTE=El Scorcho;313346]Honestly, I wouldn't go with Jenn or Emily because the best you would do is get last in the finals.[/QUOTE]
Haha that's a pretty good point.
[QUOTE=El Scorcho;313346]Honestly, I wouldn't go with Jenn or Emily because the best you would do is get last in the finals.[/QUOTE]
But you'll get to a final...both are great at getting to finals and they've never really had a decent shot to win.
Cutthroat they were against teams with guys
Emily was stuck with Ty in Exes
Jenn had Mandi in Rivals (the fact they even made a final is amazing), Jenn was on the worst final team ever with the Island and Noor was arguably the worst male in Frest Meat II.
I'd gladly work with Jenn (build great relationships) or Emily (a great chance to win if I carried my own weight).
[QUOTE=kvm1977;313370]But you'll get to a final...both are great at getting to finals and they've never really had a decent shot to win.
Cutthroat they were against teams with guys
Emily was stuck with Ty in Exes
Jenn had Mandi in Rivals (the fact they even made a final is amazing), Jenn was on the worst final team ever with the Island and [B]Noor was arguably the worst male in Frest Meat II.[/B]
I'd gladly work with Jenn (build great relationships) or Emily (a great chance to win if I carried my own weight).[/QUOTE]
If I remember correctly didn't he have the best stats and was picked first?
[QUOTE=arilicious;313283]I'm a girl, so I have to pick a guy, and unfortunately I don't like that many of the guys on these shows, so IDK who I would pick. I would pick CT because he's a good competitor and all, but the problem is we would be targeted reallyyyy early in the game.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I think it's a more difficult question for women.
If it was set up like Rivals where I had to pick someone of the same sex I'd probably go with Landon...maybe Darrell or Derrick. I can't stand Evan, Johnny or Kenny but they'd be safe picks. Brad, Tyler, Abe, Alton, CT, Leroy...there's some good options out there. Wes would be if you weren't assured of going into every elimination round first because he's hated. I'm probably forgetting some good ones.
[QUOTE=gamer73;313371]If I remember correctly didn't he have the best stats and was picked first?[/QUOTE]
I meant worst male in the finals (Landon, Kenny & [strike]Jeff[/strike] Pete) I should have been more specific but, yeah, Noor had the best stats in the combine they did.
I guess you could argue he was better than Pete. It's close.
See I like a lot of the girls on these challenges. It's hard for me to pick one.
I love Jenn's tenacity and she isn't a bad competitor.
Emily is a BEAST! and probably my favorite competitor of all time and seems to be quite likable. Although a target will always be there. But the same goes for Evelyn, one of my other possibilities.
I also wouldn't mind Laurel if she could keep her mouth shut and actually work with a solid alliance.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;313370]But you'll get to a final...both are great at getting to finals and they've never really had a decent shot to win.
Cutthroat they were against teams with guys
Emily was stuck with Ty in Exes
Jenn had Mandi in Rivals (the fact they even made a final is amazing), Jenn was on the worst final team ever with the Island and Noor was arguably the worst male in Frest Meat II.
I'd gladly work with Jenn (build great relationships) or Emily (a great chance to win if I carried my own weight).[/QUOTE]
Oh please, don't even start to defend Jenn. I am one of the biggest haters of Jenn. For a handful of reasons. One, she is all talk, she talks a bunch of **** when she damn near knows she isn't gonna do **** about it (i.e. Cara Maria on Rivals). Two, she has done 6 challenges, made it to end of 4 of them and still hasn't proved herself. Her ONLY legit elimination round win was when she beat Kimberly on The Duel 2, she beat Rachel (Austin), Colie, Katie, and Ryan/Theresa. She never won a lifeshield on The Inferno 3 with a team of girls who weren't very good, she was on the worst team on Cutthroat, she got a key on the Island by losing a face off and being voted back on, I don't recall her doing anything impressive on Fresh Meat II, she won one challenge on Rivals and came in nearly last in all the other challenges, and didn't see a glimmer of winning anything on The Duel 2. Now she is playing this whole "I'm retired" BS, not because she is moving on with her life, but because she knows that unless they do another Gauntlet style challenge with big teams and she is on the Vets, she won't win anything.
[QUOTE=El Scorcho;313461]Oh please, don't even start to defend Jenn. I am one of the biggest haters of Jenn. For a handful of reasons. One, she is all talk, she talks a bunch of **** when she damn near knows she isn't gonna do **** about it (i.e. Cara Maria on Rivals). Two, she has done 6 challenges, made it to end of 4 of them and still hasn't proved herself. Her ONLY legit elimination round win was when she beat Kimberly on The Duel 2, she beat Rachel (Austin), Colie, Katie, and Ryan/Theresa. She never won a lifeshield on The Inferno 3 with a team of girls who weren't very good, she was on the worst team on Cutthroat, she got a key on the Island by losing a face off and being voted back on, I don't recall her doing anything impressive on Fresh Meat II, she won one challenge on Rivals and came in nearly last in all the other challenges, and didn't see a glimmer of winning anything on The Duel 2[B]. Now she is playing this whole "I'm retired" BS, not because she is moving on with her life, but because she knows that unless they do another Gauntlet style challenge with big teams and she is on the Vets, she won't win anything[/B].[/QUOTE]
No I think she's doing the whole retired thing because everyone hates her and I guess she can't deal with all the hate, which is kinda sad considering it's just a tv show. That's just my opinion on why she retired, she even deleted her twitter, I'm guessing because people were tweeting mean stuff. Not a Jenn fan myself either and I agree with the rest of what you said, and Noor was one of the better FM guys, don't know why that other guy said he sucked. She's not Casey bad but she really is all talk, too bad she retired before winning one though, when you keep making to the end, eventually you will get lucky and win.
She should come back, a lot of people think Cara Maria is annoying now. Lol the Cara/Jenn thing was the beginning of the Cara puts her foot in her mouth saga. Back then I didn't think Cara was doing anything wrong by saying Jenn is having sex with Adam but now I think she has a problem with revealing other people's private business.
[QUOTE=Blue123;313465]No I think she's doing the whole retired thing because everyone hates her and I guess she cant deal with all the hate, which is kinda sad considering its just a tv show. Thats just my opinion on why she retired, she even deleted her twitter, I'm guessing because ppl were tweeting mean stuff. Not a Jenn Fan myself either and I agree with the rest of what you said, and Noor was one of the better FM guys, [B]dont know why that other guy said he sucked[/B]. She's not Casey bad but she really is all talk, too bad she retired before winning one though, when you keep making to the end, eventually you will get lucky and win.
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I didn't say Noor sucked. I said he was the weakest guy in the final (Landon, Kenny & Pete) that's all. Noor definitely wasn't overly impressive but he was solid. They got as far as they did because Jenn wisely played both sides of the house until she had to pick one.
Whether you like or hate Jenn or if you're completely indifferent towards her--she gets to finals. Period. No one has to like to her but she does play a strong strategic game. That's key in these. No one is pretending she's on par with Evelyn, Laurel, Emily, etc in terms of being a competitor but there's huge benefits to being on a team with her.
I don't hate Jenn at all! I've always thought she was a a solid player and I was hoping she was gonna have her Paula moment and eventually win one, and I think if JEK wouldn't keep coming back every challenge, then she could've won one by now. I don't understand why people hate her or think she's a *****, she never really did anything all that *****y in my opinion.
[QUOTE=arilicious;313473]I don't hate Jenn at all! I've always thought she was a a solid player and I was hoping she was gonna have her Paula moment and eventually win one, and I think if JEK wouldn't keep coming back every challenge, then she could've won one by now. I don't understand why people hate her or think she's a *****, she never really did anything all that *****y in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
She blatantly makes up stuff and leaves out key information when hyping herself up. In one of those Cutthroat fake after shows (more like a round table discussion) Jenn claims that she would have won if she had a guy on her team considering they caught up to the gray team. What she doesn't mention is that her and Emily DID NOT have to go through the whole barbed wire puzzle thing, the gray team had to do it twice, AND the gray team had stopped moving long before Jenn/Emily got there.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;313475]She blatantly makes up stuff and leaves out key information when hyping herself up. In one of those Cutthroat fake after shows (more like a round table discussion) Jenn claims that she would have won if she had a guy on her team considering they caught up to the gray team. What she doesn't mention is that her and Emily DID NOT have to go through the whole barbed wire puzzle thing, the gray team had to do it twice, AND the gray team had stopped moving long before Jenn/Emily got there.[/QUOTE]
If Derrick beat Tyler in the last Gulag I think the Grey team would have had a great chance to win that. Assuming they could remember the puzzle--big assumption.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;313477]If Derrick beat Tyler in the last Gulag I think the Grey team would have had a great chance to win that. Assuming they could remember the puzzle--big assumption.[/QUOTE]
They were still behind a gray team that had to wait for two people to get stretchered off, had to go through the swamp and barbed wire three times, and stopped running completely. I don't know if they could have made that much time up, especially considering I doubt Jenn and Derrick would have remembered their street signs.
Grey team actually didn't remember the puzzle. They had to come back to that street signs, it's just wasn't shown on TV.
Cara Maria mentioned that on her twitter, I guess:
[QUOTE]We all had to go all the way back through the barbed wire/mud and through the lake a second time. We were pissed that MTV editing showed us getting it righ thte first time. they wanted it to seem that we were close to the red team but we were NO WHERE NEAR the red team.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Get_me_gone;313482]Grey team actually didn't remember the puzzle. They had to come back to that street signs, it's just wasn't shown on TV.
Cara Maria mentioned that on her twitter, I guess:[/QUOTE]
That's exactly my point. Jenn and Emily were STILL behind the gray team that wasn't remotely close to the red team after all of the crap they had to do twice that J/E didn't have to do once.. That's why I said it annoyed me when she blatantly left out facts to make it seem like she didn't suck in the final when she did.
I can understand why Jenn sucked on The Island, Cut Throat or Rivals but I will never understand how she didn't win Fresh Meat II having Noor on her team. That proves how horrible competitor she is.
[QUOTE=mizwood;313485]I can understand why Jenn sucked on The Island, Cut Throat or Rivals but I will never understand how she didn't win Fresh Meat II having Noor on her team. That proves how horrible competitor she is.[/QUOTE]
What? You think that she should have won on FM2 because she had Noor? Noor is a good athlete but he isn't fantastic like your post makes him out to be.
[QUOTE=mizwood;313485]I can understand why Jenn sucked on The Island, Cut Throat or Rivals but I will never understand how she didn't win Fresh Meat II having Noor on her team. That proves how horrible competitor she is.[/QUOTE]
Jenn wasn't terrible on FM2 at all. The reason she lost in the final really was because Landon and Carly were just a better team when it came to working together, and Laurel is a beast.
[QUOTE=arilicious;313536]Jenn wasn't terrible on FM2 at all. The reason she lost in the final really was because Landon and Carly were just a better team when it came to working together, and Laurel is a beast.[/QUOTE]
And Jenn and Noor competed in the final less than a day after their Exile. I don't care who you are, having to go through that in such a short amount of time, chances are you aren't winning.
[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;313486]What? You think that she should have won on FM2 because she had Noor? Noor is a good athlete but he isn't fantastic like your post makes him out to be.[/QUOTE]
No. All I'm saying she had an amazing chance of winning because she had strong partner.
Jenn never proved her as competitor. All she can do is be loud and make some alliance.
[QUOTE=mizwood;313582]No. All I'm saying she had an amazing chance of winning because she had strong partner.
Jenn never proved her as competitor. All she can do is be loud and make some alliance.[/QUOTE]
You said her not winning with Noor on FM2 proves how horrible of a competitor is. She hasn't won yet, but she has been to 4 Finals, and has a record of 5-2 in elimination rounds. She is by no means a great competitor, but she is a good competitor and knows how to play the politics.
[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;313588]You said her not winning with Noor on FM2 proves how horrible of a competitor is. She hasn't won yet, but she has been to 4 Finals, and has a record of 5-2 in elimination rounds. She is by no means a great competitor, but she is a good competitor and knows how to play the politics.[/QUOTE]
She beat Rachel by blatantly cheating and getting away with it (which spawned the great TVgasm article entitled "Jenn Grijalva Must Die"), Colie who sucks, Katie who sucks, and Ryan/Theresa who sucked. The only legitimate win she has is over Kim so don't let a good elimination record fool you. Hell, Katie even has 5 wins herself as does Casey.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;313637]She beat Rachel by blatantly cheating and getting away with it (which spawned the great TVgasm article entitled "Jenn Grijalva Must Die"), Colie who sucks, Katie who sucks, and Ryan/Theresa who sucked. The only legitimate win she has is over Kim so don't let a good elimination record fool you. Hell, Katie even has 5 wins herself as does Casey.[/QUOTE]
Casey has wins with Wes--that's completely different
Your posts simply show your hatred/dislike of her is blinding you from the reality of the situation.
Spin it however you want--we all see what's going on.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;313644]Casey has wins with Wes--that's completely different
Your posts simply show your hatred/dislike of her is blinding you from the reality of the situation.
Spin it however you want--we all see what's going on.[/QUOTE]
Reality of what? I'm looking at this from a logical standpoint and not from a numbers standpoint. I can pull a whole bunch of random numbers out of my *** to say X is good or X is bad. Here's one, Jacquese and Adam Royer are the only two cast members to be undefeated in missions. Without context, that looks a lot better than the reality that they each won one, went home, and never came back again.
Besides the fact that you didn't try to disprove my point of who she beat, instead you chose to say that my "hatred of her is blinding me from the reality of the situation." What's the reality? I've watched enough of this show for the last 10 years to have a good understanding of who's actually good and who has a lot of luck on their side (as well as who is a producer's favorite and who kisses the most ***).
[QUOTE=kvm1977;313477]If Derrick beat Tyler in the last Gulag I think the Grey team would have had a great chance to win that. Assuming they could remember the puzzle--big assumption.[/QUOTE]
Lol Jenn and Derrick are great at puzzles! There was a lot of puzzles on the rivals finale that I'm sure Jenn/Mandi did great on, and Jenn/Mandi were so good at remembering the camp site thing on rivals and they did a wonderful job of setting up the tent haha. And Derrick showed his awesome reading abilities during that challenge on the ruins where he was yelling "what do I do with the bag" when there was a sign right in front of him thus costing them the challenge, and on the ruins finale Kenny told him to sit down because he wasnt being any help with the puzzles. Lol I feel like an *** hole point that out but those were some funny times :D
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