The Challenge: Battle of the Exes - Rachel Robinson

Well, she did say she would be competing on the Senior Citizens Challenge quite some time ago. :D

Rachel, please send as many of these worthless broads home as you can.

She's actually only 28 - she just started appearing on the shows when she was 18. She is actually younger than Aneesa, Robin, Diem, and Paula.

Hey just a thought, remember back when they were casting for this challenge Veronica had tweeted she had been asked and declined, I wonder if they were going to pair her with Rachel? Although, whatever they had together was never really caught on tape, or maybe they would have paired her with Evan? Hmmmmm...

Veronica tweeted about being called for Rivals not Exes. I doubt they would have paired her with Rachel since there isn't really any footage of them being a couple and plus, the only people that even know they were dating are die hard fans that come to Vevmo, lol. I don't think people that watch the show a lot but don't necessarily go onto message boards even know that they were together. Even if they did call her for Exes, it would have been her and Evan or her and Abram.

[QUOTE=RubenJay05;294953]Veronica tweeted about being called for Rivals not Exes. I doubt they would have paired her with Rachel since there isn't really any footage of them being a couple and plus, the only people that even know they were dating are die hard fans that come to Vevmo, lol. I don't think people that watch the show a lot but don't necessarily go onto message boards even know that they were together. Even if they did call her for Exes, it would have been her and Evan or her and Abram.[/QUOTE] Nope, she tweeted when availablity calls first when out for BOTE.

[QUOTE=RubenJay05;294953]Veronica tweeted about being called for Rivals not Exes. I doubt they would have paired her with Rachel since there isn't really any footage of them being a couple and plus, the only people that even know they were dating are die hard fans that come to Vevmo, lol. I don't think people that watch the show a lot but don't necessarily go onto message boards even know that they were together. Even if they did call her for Exes, it would have been her and Evan or her and Abram.[/QUOTE] Oh there is enough footage of them two. They get GREAT edits to not show it on the episode, but if you check out the after show for "The Inferno II", there are clips of them both getting out of the shower and run back in when the camera catches them and one with Tonya outing them as a couple and it shows both of them in bed. But even if Veronica said "yes", the pair wouldnt have come on. Rachel said in an interview she only came on because Aneesa was going.

I can't help but feel so terrible for Rachel/Aneesa since the fantastic four alliance practically wants them out of the game . There's not much to do, they're practically postponing there elimination sentence.

I can see feeling bad for Aneesa because she hasn't done anything to anybody but Rachel's exactly what Johnny said she is. Johnny has every right to hold a grudge with her for what she did to him on the Island. She said it doesn't make sense for him to hold a grudge from a show 4 years ago...it didn't make sense for her to still vote Johnny off the show after Abram told everybody that he HAD to go home. She's also badmouthed CT in the past, so that's the strongest social player and physical player in the game that she's instigated beef with in the past...and to be honest, Camila doesn't seem like the kind of person who would just make up what Rachel said about Robin and Mark on a whim when she was discussing the game with Johnny. You manage to go out of your way to instigate stuff with that many power players all at once, and it's going to come back to bite you, just look at Wes. His actions on past challenges have haunted his game for years now & he has himself to blame for it.

[QUOTE=townie;297576]I can see feeling bad for Aneesa because she hasn't done anything to anybody but Rachel's exactly what Johnny said she is. Johnny has every right to hold a grudge with her for what she did to him on the Island. She said it doesn't make sense for him to hold a grudge from a show 4 years ago...it didn't make sense for her to still vote Johnny off the show after Abram told everybody that he HAD to go home. She's also badmouthed CT in the past, so that's the strongest social player and physical player in the game that she's instigated beef with in the past...and to be honest, Camila doesn't seem like the kind of person who would just make up what Rachel said about Robin and Mark on a whim when she was discussing the game with Johnny. You manage to go out of your way to instigate stuff with that many power players all at once, and it's going to come back to bite you, just look at Wes. His actions on past challenges have haunted his game for years now & he has himself to blame for it.[/QUOTE] Well Camila has been categorized as an attention ***** in the past and she still lies about not hooking up with Johnny so I wouldn't put it past her to make something up.

I feel bad for Rachel and Aneesa. They are the only same sex team. She would never throw Mark under the bus. And unlike most challengers, she doesn't hold grudges nor carry them over to new challenges. She had every right to vote johnny off on The Island. It was a smart move! Get 2 guys off the Island in 1 shot? Why not? better for her! Abe was going to quit regardless, so why not send Johnny home, who ruled the game with Kenny? She was smart to do that.

[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;297584]She would never throw Mark under the bus. [/QUOTE] That's what I'm wondering about. The last episode left that issue in a rather open-ended manner. That was disappointing. For such a he-say/she-say topic you would think it would be important enough to show footage as to whether she talked smack about Mark or not. My uninformed thought is that she didn't and Johnny/Camilla made the whole thing up

[QUOTE=Help Desk;297611] My uninformed thought is that she didn't and Johnny/Camilla made the whole thing up[/QUOTE] I think I'm leaning toward agreeing with this. When it was time for deliberation and Johnny/Camila were speaking in front of anyone all Camila said was that Rachel didn't think Robin deserved to be there. At that point Camila didn't say anything about Rachel throwing Mark under the bus, which seemed suspicious to me.

[QUOTE=Help Desk;297611]That's what I'm wondering about. The last episode left that issue in a rather open-ended manner. That was disappointing. For such a he-say/she-say topic you would think it would be important enough to show footage as to whether she talked smack about Mark or not. My uninformed thought is that she didn't and Johnny/Camilla made the whole thing up[/QUOTE] From what we saw, Camilla's the one who made it up, and Johnny went along with it. Did he believe it? We'll never know. But they did need a reason to throw someone in. Also, I really think the situation was heavily manipulated by editing, because why would Mark believe it? He's known and been friends with Rachel for years, and he just met Camilla.

Not everything is caught on camera believe it or not. The cameras really aren't everywhere all the time. There was a fight between katie and susie on the gauntlet 2 that wasn't shown because the camera crew were downstairs and they were upstairs. We'll probably find out if that conversation really happened at the reunion.

Personally I don't think she said it..But then again Rachel hasn't exactly been an Angel on these things so you never know.

[QUOTE=jhl182;297673]Not everything is caught on camera believe it or not. We'll probably find out if that conversation really happened at the reunion.[/QUOTE] Good point...I do think that is something you would want to catch and put out there ASAP, though. Either they are waiting for the Reunion to unveil what really happened, or MTV has Johnny Bananas bias.

Rachel is the best female competitor in female challenge history. Those who say Evelyn need to watch FM2 episodes 3,4,5 to see she isn't all that.

Rachel isn't the best female competitor in Challenge history. I don't remember her dominating the competition at all. Evelyn was still seen as the biggest threat to Kenny and Laurel which is why she and Luke were put first every time. If you want to see Evelyn dominated watch The Inferno 3 or Rivals. Tell me what season to watch to see Rachel dominate and I will watch.

[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;298019]Rachel isn't the best female competitor in Challenge history. I don't remember her dominating the competition at all. Evelyn was still seen as the biggest threat to Kenny and Laurel which is why she and Luke were put first every time. If you want to see Evelyn dominated watch The Inferno 3 or Rivals. Tell me what season to watch to see Rachel dominate and I will watch.[/QUOTE] Evelyn was on Rivals? I honestly always forget she was on at all last season. She didn't seem to dominate last season. The only thing I remember is she was first sent in and that was mainly cause it was Paula Vs Anessa again.

[QUOTE=LaneV95;298020]Evelyn was on Rivals? I honestly always forget she was on at all last season. She didn't seem to dominate last season. The only thing I remember is she was first sent in and that was mainly cause it was Paula Vs Anessa again.[/QUOTE] Evelyn won 4 of the 8 missions and the Final Challenge. She didn't start a lot of drama so she didn't get a lot of attention. Tyler was also the best male competitor on Cutthroat and Rivals but he didn't start a lot of drama so you didn't pay attention to him.

I like her. She's full of herself but she's allowed to be, because she's an amazing athlete. I wish we got to see more of her on this challenge - she didn't get much airtime this time around.

I feel like If she will do the Duel 3 she would destroy every single female.

[QUOTE=mizwood;301541]I feel like If she will do the Duel 3 she would destroy every single female.[/QUOTE] I suspect that a number of women from the last 10 challenges would disagree with you.

Of course they would! But I could hardly imagine the girl who would beat Reachel. I don't think that even Evelyn or Laurel could.

[QUOTE=mizwood;301552]Of course they would! But I could hardly imagine the girl who would beat Reachel (sic). I don't think that even Evelyn or Laurel could.[/QUOTE] Across a wide range of possible physical/intellectual competitions (irrespective of availability, desire, interest or other limitation), based upon my own knowledge of their relative abilities, I think it likely that Rachel would lose to the following... Probability of win greater than 90% (In no particular order) Evelyn Laurel Emily Probability of win between 65 and 90% Camilla Beth Tori Diem Jodi EmileeFitz Probability of win between 51 - 65 % Heather Cooke Melissa Howard Tonya Trishelle Susie Paula Johanna Kelly Anne

So you don't think that Rachel is the strongest girl on those days?

Emilee Fitz? Trishelle? Johanna? Beth? Emilee Fitz: Was in one episode of Cutthroat, she didn't do anything to prove that she is a strong competitor. Trishelle: I hardly even remember her. Johanna: Has never won an elimination around. Beth: She was never really good competition wise. None of them have shown that they could beat Rachel in any kind of way. I don't see any of them beating Rachel, other than that I agree.

I couldn't see Melissa or Paula beating Rachel in any elimination round either. Melissa was one of the weaker girls on BOTS2 wasn't she?

[QUOTE=kat_17;301558]Emilee Fitz? Trishelle? johanna? Beth? Emilee Fitz : Was in on episode of Cutthroat, she didn't do anything to proved that she is a strong competitor. Trishelle: I hardly even remember her. Johanna: Never have won an elimination around. Beth: she was never really good competition wise. None of them have show that te (sic) could beat Rachel in any kind shape or way. I don't see none of them beating Rachel, other than that I agree.[/QUOTE] Well, I have the advantage of knowing all of those you've listed above better than you. Emilee is actually very athletic. I don't measure her at all from anything BMP has shown me of her. Trishelle is a superb athlete. I've worked with her several times and know that what she did on Hulk Hogan's Celebrity Championship Wrestling and as quarterback for the NY Euphoria was no fluke. She is a legitimate athlete. Beth wins when she chooses to/BMP allows it. She may be the strongest woman to appear on any of the challenges. Almost no one knows that for years following her RW: LA season, she was a legitimate kick boxer in LA. When she lived in Santa Monica, she regularly ran -- with extra weights -- the steps in Santa Monica and did the same at Runyon Canyon, one of Mark Long's favorite training sites. Just ask Jodi how strong Beth is -- or anyone present for The Duel or G3. I'm 185lbs and she can bench press me. She is actually in better shape today than she was 5 years ago. What she is not is a size 0 or 2; she is a size 6 as is Jodi. Johanna: Probably the best distance runner and conditioned athlete next to Evelyn and Emily. She is also one of the smartest competitors whose only weakness may have been in the desire category. She also gets serious points from my for taking seriously my recommendations for her fitness regimen.