Survivor 23: South Pacific - Spoilers

Interesting...what an idiot.

[B][SIZE="7"]FINALE SPOILERS![/SIZE][/B] MaxxFisher says: Ozzy returns from RI Ozzy wins immunity, Rick voted out Sophie wins immunity, Ozzy voted out And... SOPHIE WINS SURVIVOR: SOUTH PACIFIC!

To be fair, Maxx did not say with certainty that Sophie wins. That "spoiler" was based off observations that anyone with eyes could make.

When I talked to a number of the people during Reality Rescue II in October who are now on the jury, not a one said he or she knew for sure what the votes were. One said, [QUOTE]"I'd like to tell you that I know, but won't tell you. The real truth is that I know who I voted for and that is all I really know. The one thing Survivor forces you to do -- unless you're Brandon -- is to learn to lie." [/QUOTE] Now I understand the comment about Brandon... sort of...

I'll be really disappointed if Sophie wins. I had high hopes for her and she's been a huge let down! I think Albert and Coach are the only 2 deserving players left.

[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;290843]I'll be really disappointed if Sophie wins. I had high hopes for her and she's been a huge let down! I think Albert and Coach are the only 2 deserving players left.[/QUOTE] You don't think Sophie is deserving but you think Albert is? How?

[QUOTE=molds13;290847]You don't think Sophie is deserving but you think Albert is? How?[/QUOTE] Albert has been trying to make big moves all season, but hasn't been able to because he's playing with a bunch of people afraid to **** off people. Sophie Won 2 immunities, but that's about it. Sophie said that Brandon was a jury threat, when he is easily the most beatable person there. Rick had a better chance to win than Brandon...

[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;290876]Albert has been trying to make big moves all season, but hasn't been able to because he's playing with a bunch of people afraid to **** off people. Sophie Won 2 immunities, but that's about it. Sophie said that Brandon was a jury threat, when he is easily the most beatable person there. Rick had a better chance to win than Brandon...[/QUOTE] He may have been trying, but he failed miserably and hasn't done ****. The jury isn't going to look at what they tried to do. They're going to look at what they did. Albert and Sophie may have been extremely weak when it comes to strategizing, but at least Sophie's done something physical. After all, it is "Outwit, outplay, outlast". While I guess if they make it to the finals they can both say outlast, Sophie can say that, at some point, she outplayed; Albert can't. Everyone in that tribe has been riding Coach's coattails the entire season.

[QUOTE=molds13;290878]He may have been trying, but he failed miserably and hasn't done ****. The jury isn't going to look at what they tried to do. They're going to look at what they did. Albert and Sophie may have been extremely weak when it comes to strategizing, but at least Sophie's done something physical. After all, it is "Outwit, outplay, outlast". While I guess if they make it to the finals they can both say outlast, Sophie can say that, at some point, she outplayed; Albert can't. Everyone in that tribe has been riding Coach's coattails the entire season.[/QUOTE] I disagree. I think that the people on the jury that Albert tried to work would acknowledge his efforts.

[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;290880]I disagree. I think that the people on the jury that Albert tried to work would acknowledge his efforts.[/QUOTE] Well if Sophie wins...clearly, they don't.

[QUOTE=molds13;290881]Well if Sophie wins...clearly, they don't.[/QUOTE] If Sophie wins Coach will look like an idiot for not listening to Albert.

[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;290880]I disagree. I think that the people on the jury that Albert tried to work would acknowledge his efforts.[/QUOTE] I honestly don't see where Albert made any effort at all. Sure, we saw him say in a million confessionals (probably only after episode 5 or 6 where we first learned his name) give us his plans and what he was going to do. I never saw him go forth with any of the plans, just telling one person here or there. This is Survivor, if any of the jurors are anywhere near voting smart, they aren't going to vote for someone based on effort. It's all about doing in Survivor. No one ever wins on effort alone.

[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;290883]If Sophie wins Coach will look like an idiot for not listening to Albert.[/QUOTE] If anyone but Coach wins, he's going to look like an idiot.

If anyone but Coach wins, the jury members will look like bitter idiots...as usual.

[QUOTE=fabulous788;290884] No one ever wins on effort alone.[/QUOTE] In HvV Sandra's main argument was that she tried to get them to vote Russel out, but nobody would. I think if you if you asked the jury members that voted for her they'd tell you that her saying that in the final tribal is why she got their votes, not Parvati.

[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;290887]In HvV Sandra's main argument was that she tried to get them to vote Russel out, but nobody would. I think if you if you asked the jury members that voted for her they'd tell you that her saying that in the final tribal is why she got their votes, not Parvati.[/QUOTE] This. I think she gained a lot of respect from the jurors by basically saying, "Russell's here and you're there because you didn't listen to me." But with that being said, Albert's strategy and plans have been scrambled and all over the place, while hers was clear and precise.

[QUOTE=GivingTree;290889]This. I think she gained a lot of respect from the jurors by basically saying, "Russell's here and you're there because you didn't listen to me." But with that being said, Albert's strategy and plans have been scrambled and all over the place, while hers was clear and precise.[/QUOTE] Just to clarify, I don't think Albert is some great player, I just respect that he's at least attempted to do something.

[QUOTE=GivingTree;290889]This. I think she gained a lot of respect from the jurors by basically saying, "Russell's here and you're there because you didn't listen to me." But with that being said, Albert's strategy and plans have been scrambled and all over the place, while hers was clear and precise.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=salt&vinegar;290890]Just to clarify, I don't think Albert is some great player, I just respect that he's at least attempted to do something.[/QUOTE] There is a major difference between Sandra and Albert. Sandra tried to actually get people to listen to her and never gave up doing so. Albert on the other hand went to one person (normally Coach, whom he should have been getting rid of), brought up some plan, and then did nothing to get it done and listened to Coach in the end. Not to mention that Sandra had previously won. You would think that a handful of Survivors that had already played the game would have had the right sense to vote them out in the first place. She flew under the radar and played the perfect social game and had a complete lack of physical game whatsoever. Albert lacks both and the balls to get rid of someone big because he always ran back to Coach.

I think all 3 finalists suck and none of them deserve to win or would be a good winner. This season was total failure from the minute Coach and Ozzy were put on this cast to when Cochran voted against Keith, this game blew. One World please.