Real World San Diego: La Jolla (2011) - Frank Sweeney

The two most annoying guys on real world/challenge history o_O [URL="http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=11835"][IMG]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/45554e8cfe26866ee.jpg[/IMG][/URL][URL="http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=11836"][IMG]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/45554e8cfe2f49bf7.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

I wouldn't say Frank is annoying like Ryan just a bit predictable. But more power to them. Personally I don't know which one I have more respect for since Ryan is cool on the challenges to a certain extent and Frank's season is just starting.

Well, I guess we will be seeing Frank and Ryan as the new challenge couple. I just see Frank being a challenge *****.

I dont think they are a couple, they are just hoooking up for the fun of it. I also see Frank as a challenge *****, he also met Davis & Brooke. If there is a rivals 2, Frank & Zach would be a team going by today's episode, trailer, and twitter [URL="http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=11843"][IMG]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/51084e8dbc28799ab.png[/IMG][/URL]

Zach and Nate are just ****** bags. They have to be two of the biggest TOOLS to ever be on this show. I hate their double standards and closed minds.

This may be overanalyzing , but I'm wondering if Frank has a problem with Ashley too? (judging by that last tweet) Also, are Frank and Ryan a couple or is that just a "friendly" kiss?

Originally I wasn't going to watch San Diego. The season seemed so ...blah. Until I decided to see what Frank was all about. Turns out he's the person I can relate to the most out of any Real Worlder ever. I know that says a lot, but I've gone through so many similar experiences, it's unbelievable. The rejection from the parents, being kicked out, the uncertainty of who one can trust, the issues that come along with alcohol (though the only difference between him and I is that when I drink, I just cry a lot). If I would've been cast for a role in Real World when I was eligible, it would've been as a more mild version of him. It gives me comfort knowing that other people out there know what it's like to go through all of those things that I've been through and I give him extreme props to do so on national television. He's the reason I'm going to watch the show and I truly hope that he had some time to heal and learn while on the show.

Frank just seems like one of those people who claims bisexuality even though they're more likely than not homosexual. It's this weird taboo to be gay, but if you're bi, it's better because you're still slightly "normal." I think he's still got a lot to figure out, and the issues with his parents doesn't help him - neither does the alcohol. Also, he just seems to be the kind of person that always wants the attention on him and he'll do anything to get it, whether it be drinking and turning into a belligerent nincompoop or getting upset because his feelings for Alex aren't reciprocated. He's also gotta stop hating on Frank and Nate. I'm all for LGBT issues, but I don't hate people that were raised differently. Instead of hating on them and getting upset, I would at least try to talk to them and explain things. They even told him they don't hate him. Nate was pretty honest and said "look, your lifestyle kind of freaks me out." I respect him for that, but Frank just kind of blows everything out of proportion. Reality television has unfortunately taught us that if you just yell at someone and confront them in that manner, you'll soon be saved by a commercial and then it'll be the next morning and everything is okay. That's not how life works in the real world (the [B]real[/B] real world). I think that's what Zach is referring to when he says (in the sneak peak for next episode) "this isn't how a man handles his problems." He's saying that he'll talk to Frank and listen, but if Frank's just going to be a drama queen he doesn't want anything to do with it. Every time the cast tries to talk to Frank, he gets defensive and plays the victim card. If he just calmed down and talked to his roommates, who knows? Maybe things would actually improve.

From Frank's tweets it seems like he is still at odds with Nate. He and Ayiiia were tweeting back and forth. Apparently she invited them all out to a gay club and Nate, Zach, and Ashley did not go. I don't realy think it's a big deal that they did not want to go. Even Frank before RW never went to a gay club, was hesitant to go and even said something like he's not into the gay culture thing...it's moreso their comments like they don't want to see him with a guy and wanting to do "straight" things that make them messed up.

[QUOTE=PaintedVeil;282475]From Frank's tweets it seems like he is still at odds with Nate. He and Ayiiia were tweeting back and forth. Apparently she invited them all out to a gay club and Nate, Zach, and Ashley did not go. I don't realy think it's a big deal that they did not want to go. [B]Even Frank before RW never went to a gay club, was hesitant to go [/B]and even said something like he's not into the gay culture thing...it's moreso their comments like they don't want to see him with a guy and wanting to do "straight" things that make them messed up.[/QUOTE] The point is that even though it was out of Frank's comfort zone, he still went. Zach, Ash and Nate just sat in the car/at home and made derogatory comments...

[QUOTE=CherryPie;282491]The point is that even though it was out of Frank's comfort zone, he still went. Zach, Ash and Nate just sat in the car/at home and made derogatory comments...[/QUOTE] Of course he went, he's gay. They are not gay so what would they get out of it.

[QUOTE=jesses_girl;282492]Of course he went, he's gay. They are not gay so what would they get out of it.[/QUOTE] A growth experience? They probably would have learned that the gays would not have attacked them...they are not all predators. And at least to my knowledge making out is not the sole purpose to go out - you could also dance, drink, have fun and a good time with your roommates, no matter whether at a gay or a straight club/bar.

[QUOTE=OrangeStar;282495]A growth experience? They probably would have learned that the gays would not have attacked them...they are not all predators. And at least to my knowledge making out is not the sole purpose to go out - you could also dance, drink, have fun and a good time with your roommates, no matter whether at a gay or a straight club/bar.[/QUOTE] Well people on the real world seem to only go out just to********.

[QUOTE=jesses_girl;282496]Well people on the real world seem to only go out just to********.[/QUOTE] The straight ones, yeah, maybe. The gay cast members probably not so much, considering how many times they go along to the "straight" clubs. It would have just been a friendly gesture, in the vein of "We get the chance to******** nearly every night, now it's your turn for once and we simply enjoy the evening", but apparently that's not happening. Not to speak about the fact how sad it is just to go out to********. (And I don't really think that's a valid argument to begin with. I don't think for example Ashley and Zach have been laid that many times during their "flirty phase")

[QUOTE=OrangeStar;282495]A growth experience? They probably would have learned that the gays would not have attacked them...they are not all predators. And at least to my knowledge making out is not the sole purpose to go out - you could also dance, drink, have fun and a good time with your roommates, no matter whether at a gay or a straight club/bar.[/QUOTE] If you take away the fact that it's The Real World, do you know ANYONE who would go to a gay club to have a growth experience?

[QUOTE=molds13;282501]Not necessarily a growth experience, but I've been taken to a gay club for the experience. And I did walk out of there with a different opinion.[/QUOTE] I know a lot of females who go to gay clubs and are straight. I have never known a straight male to go to a gay club. I think it is just socially unacceptable.

[QUOTE=Nightwolf;282499]If you take away the fact that it's The Real World, do you know ANYONE who would go to a gay club to have a growth experience?[/QUOTE] Yeah, but why take away the fact?? Does not make much sense to me. And the other point still stands - it would just have been a nice and mature gesture.

I don't know about gay clubs in the US but in the UK straight guys are often not allowed into gay clubs.

[QUOTE=Nightwolf;282499]If you take away the fact that it's The Real World, do you know ANYONE who would go to a gay club to have a growth experience?[/QUOTE] Speaking from personal experience, I have gone to gay clubs with numerous straight men who wanted to be supportive of their gay friends including myself. The catch is that their attendance is usually contingent upon many of my straight girl friends coming along as well. When you go into a gay club with a large group of friends of mixed sexual orientations, it's usually really fun. I might be biased, but I think the drinks and music is better at gay clubs. Meanwhile, my female friends don't have to be so wary about getting hit on by creepy straight guys ;)

[QUOTE=ILoveRW;282510]I don't know about gay clubs in the US but in the UK straight guys are often not allowed into gay clubs.[/QUOTE] Do they have a test at the door? That sounds a bit suspicious to me...

Bouncers with impeccable gaydar....?

[QUOTE=RMD1;282503]I know a lot of females who go to gay clubs and are straight. I have never known a straight male to go to a gay club. I think it is just socially unacceptable.[/QUOTE] Socially unacceptable, really? I think it's a bit harsh. It might be less socially acceptable than straight women in gay clubs, but it's not wrong... [QUOTE=jesses_girl;282492]Of course he went, he's gay. They are not gay so what would they get out of it.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=OrangeStar;282504]Yeah, but why take away the fact?? Does not make much sense to me. And the other point still stands - it would just have been a nice and mature gesture.[/QUOTE] Like OrangeStar already stated, they would learn and grow from it. And the fact is this IS the Real World, and we've seen straight men accompany their roommates to gay bars/clubs before and it's not a problem. The way I see it is I seriously doubt they have many (or any) gay or LGBT-friendly friends (well I doubt it more from Zach than Nate) and this is the one time that they could go to a gay club with a group of people who condone it, so why not give it a try.

[QUOTE=jesses_girl;282492]Of course he went, he's gay. They are not gay so what would they get out of it.[/QUOTE] Not every straight person who goes to a straight club is looking to score. Besides, I'd rather to go into an opposite-orientation club than a country-western bar like they did any day of the week. That is the creepy thing people [I][U]should[/U][/I] be discussing. :preved:

[QUOTE=FishHooks;282714]Not every straight person who goes to a straight club is looking to score. Besides, I'd rather to go into an opposite-orientation club than a country-western bar like they did any day of the week. That is the creepy thing people [I][U]should[/U][/I] be discussing. :preved:[/QUOTE] I actually thought the country western bar was cool and a change of pace. All I'm saying is I don't think there is anything wrong with Zach, Nate, and Ashley not wanting to go to a gay club. Yes it was done before on the show but that doesn't mean it's mandatory lol.

[QUOTE=Bacchus;282666]Do they have a test at the door? That sounds a bit suspicious to me...[/QUOTE] yeah, the test is, "are you gay?"

[QUOTE=jesses_girl;282734][B]I actually thought the country western bar was cool and a change of pace. [/B] All I'm saying is I don't think there is anything wrong with Zach, Nate, and Ashley not wanting to go to a gay club. Yes it was done before on the show but that doesn't mean it's mandatory lol.[/QUOTE] Any scenario in which you are in a bar where there is a woman wearing a wedding dress is suspect to me. [QUOTE=ILoveRW;282736]yeah, the test is, "are you gay?"[/QUOTE] Come on. The gays are much more creative than that. More like "Sing me a verse of Cher" and make it like you mean it to get in.