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[QUOTE=Challenge_Fan;279949]But that factors in too. Why would you want somebody who, on 30% of the Challenges he's been on, hasn't even competed because he can't control his temper. When you could have somebody who's guaranteed to take you far, like Landon. In my opinion, they're the 2 best, but I'd probably take Landon over CT.[/QUOTE] CT made it through Rivals without throwing a punch. Wes admitted to being afraid of CT, i doubt he's afraid of Landon. And people forget about Landon's epic choke job against Brad. [QUOTE=josePortugal;279950]Cara Maria was the number 1 pick in that challenge, you think that if Darrell lost with the number one pick he would won with the last one?[/QUOTE] So she was the number one pick......does that mean she will win her first elimination round? [QUOTE=JEK & Wes;279951]Pete and Noor are good competitors, whether you want to acknowledge it or not they both performed very well on FM2. I meant in challenge history though. I just don't believe CT, or anyone else for that matter could have won that Final with Carley as their partner. Landon was the perfect partner for her throughout the Challenge.[/QUOTE] No, they are average competitors. And CT would win with Carely without a problem you people are kidding me with this..
[QUOTE=Superboy;279953]CT made it through Rivals without throwing a punch. Wes admitted to being afraid of CT, i doubt he's afraid of Landon. And people forget about Landon's epic choke job against Brad [/QUOTE] Yeah, he's made it through 70% of his challenges without throwing a punch. Landon's made it through 100% of his. So what if Wes is afraid of him, Wes would lose to either one of them on any day of the week. Epic Choke Job? I think that better describes CT's performance againt Brad in The Duel 1.
[QUOTE=Superboy;279953] No, they are average competitors. And CT would win with Carely without a problem you people are kidding me with this..[/QUOTE]I completely disagree with both points, but whatever. This argument is going nowhere...
[QUOTE=Challenge_Fan;279955]Yeah, he's made it through 70% of his challenges without throwing a punch. Landon's made it through 100% of his. So what if Wes is afraid of him, Wes would lose to either one of them on any day of the week. Epic Choke Job? I think that better describes CT's performance againt Brad in The Duel 1.[/QUOTE] Both had huge choke jobs against Brad put Landon's was worse because he had more than one chance at winning. [QUOTE=JEK & Wes;279956]I completely disagree with both points, but whatever. [B]This argument is going nowhere...[/B][/QUOTE] You're right, because you guys don't know competitors. CT is an outstanding competitor, easily better than anyone expect for maybe Mark all time. He has the size, strength, athleticism, speed, skills, and mental strength. And though he isn't too bright of a person(not being able to control his emotions), he still beat Evan in a puzzle(on Duel 1) and showed he can win in that aswell(not to mention he was cocky going into it). He is a complete competitor, when it comes to the competition, he pretty much lacks in nothing.
I think they should do another Fresh Meat challenge but have the vets do different physical and mental activities and the FMers have to pick who they want based on those stats. And the vets would be hidden but numbered so the FM can't pick someone just because they think he/she hot or just because they are a fan of them. They would call the number they want based on the stats and who ever that vet is would reveal his/herself lol.
[QUOTE=Superboy;279957] You're right, because you guys don't know competitors. CT is an outstanding competitor, easily better than anyone expect for maybe Mark all time. He has the size, strength, athleticism, speed, skills, and mental strength. And though he isn't too bright of a person(not being able to control his emotions), he still beat Evan in a puzzle(on Duel 1) and showed he can win in that aswell(not to mention he was cocky going into it). He is a complete competitor, when it comes to the competition, he pretty much lacks in nothing.[/QUOTE] All I'm saying is, CT might be able to do what Landon did and win Fresh Meat with the last pick/one of the weakest females, but until he does it (or at least something to the effect) I have Landon solidly ahead of him. In my opinion that was one of the most impressive challenge wins ever. A few other reasons why I have Landon ahead of CT: - Landon is 3-0 in Finals, CT is 0-3 in Finals - They went head to head in an athletic competition on Inferno 2 and Landon smoked him (as well as everybody else) - Landon is 5-1 in elimination rounds, CT is 3-2 - Landon has 3 challenge wins, CT has none.
[QUOTE]- Landon is 3-0 in Finals, CT is 0-3 in Finals[/QUOTE] Inferno 1-CT was on a bad Real World Team compared to what Road Rules had so what could he had done about that? Gauntlet 3-Eric lost it for the Vets, not CT's fault. If Landon was on the Vets he would of lost too. Rivals-Adam lost it for him and CT and Adam admitted it. [QUOTE]- They went head to head in an athletic competition on Inferno 2 and Landon smoked him (as well as everybody else) - Landon is 5-1 in elimination rounds, CT is 3-2 - Landon has 3 challenge wins, CT has none.[/QUOTE] CT still outperformed Landon overall on the Inferno 2. And Landon is 3-1 in individual elimination rounds and defeated bottom competitors such as Issac, Dan, and Karamo. CT took out Evan, who is much better obviously than anyone Landon took out. Landon has 3 challenge wins mostly based on being fortunate to be on the right teams(Good Guys and Rookies). His only challenge win that he earned mostly by himself was on Fresh Meat 1. In a recent interview, Ruthie said she would take CT over Landon after giving it thought because of his performance on Rivals. CT has always been the best competitor on all the challenge he's been on. He is the most feared competitor in challenge history. No one has been giving more credit by challengers than CT has.
[QUOTE=Superboy;279963]Inferno 1-CT was on a bad Real World Team compared to what Road Rules had so what could he had done about that? Gauntlet 3-Eric lost it for the Vets, not CT's fault. If Landon was on the Vets he would of lost too. Rivals-Adam lost it for him and CT and Adam admitted it. CT still outperformed Landon overall on the Inferno 2. And Landon is 3-1 in individual elimination rounds and defeated bottom competitors such as Issac, Dan, and Karamo. CT took out Evan, who is much better obviously than anyone Landon took out. Landon has 3 challenge wins mostly based on being fortunate to be on the right teams(Good Guys and Rookies). His only challenge win that he earned mostly by himself was on Fresh Meat 1. In a recent interview, Ruthie said she would take CT over Landon after giving it thought because of his performance on Rivals. CT has always been the best competitor on all the challenge he's been on. He is the most feared competitor in challenge history. No one has been giving more credit by challengers than CT has.[/QUOTE] Landon dominated the Duel 2 with 5 challenge wins and one elimination round and on the Inferno 2 won 4 life shields and 2 elimination rounds
[QUOTE=Superboy;279963]Inferno 1-CT was on a bad Real World Team compared to what Road Rules had so what could he had done about that? Gauntlet 3-Eric lost it for the Vets, not CT's fault. If Landon was on the Vets he would of lost too. Rivals-Adam lost it for him and CT and Adam admitted it. CT still outperformed Landon overall on the Inferno 2. And Landon is 3-1 in individual elimination rounds and defeated bottom competitors such as Issac, Dan, and Karamo. CT took out Evan, who is much better obviously than anyone Landon took out. Landon has 3 challenge wins mostly based on being fortunate to be on the right teams(Good Guys and Rookies). His only challenge win that he earned mostly by himself was on Fresh Meat 1. In a recent interview, Ruthie said she would take CT over Landon after giving it thought because of his performance on Rivals. CT has always been the best competitor on all the challenge he's been on. He is the most feared competitor in challenge history. No one has been giving more credit by challengers than CT has.[/QUOTE]So you excuse ALL of CT's losses and chalk them up to weak teammates, but when Landon wins a challenge with the last pick and by far the weakest female in the Final, he get's no credit and "any top tier competitor could have done that"?
[QUOTE=josePortugal;279964]Landon dominated the Duel 2 with 5 challenge wins and one elimination round and on the Inferno 2 won 4 life shields and 2 elimination rounds[/QUOTE] CT was the best competitor on his first challenge(Inferno 1), won 6 lifesavers on the Inferno 2, was the best competitor on the Duel 1, and the best competitor on all his challenges period. He completely destroyed big guys like Johnny on Cutthroat, and Tyler on Rivals(when he tackled him in the elimination round). [QUOTE=JEK & Wes;279965]So you excuse ALL of CT's losses and chalk them up to weak teammates, but when Landon wins a challenge with the last pick and by far the weakest female in the Final, he get's no credit and "any top tier competitor could have done that"?[/QUOTE] Landon gets credit for that, but it's not worthy to rank him over CT, who would have easily done that because he's stronger than Landon, and has really good endurance aswell.
[QUOTE=Superboy;279966]CT was the best competitor on his first challenge(Inferno 1), won 6 lifesavers on the Inferno 2, was the best competitor on the Duel 1, and the best competitor on all his challenges period. He completely destroyed big guys like Johnny on Cutthroat, and Tyler on Rivals(when he tackled him in the elimination round). Landon gets credit for that, but it's not worthy to rank him over CT, who would have easily done that because he's stronger than Landon, and has really good endurance aswell.[/QUOTE] Landon is the best competitor in all challenge history he won agains Mark, Alton,Evan and Darrell, he is the best, CT is the third after Landon and Alton
[QUOTE=Superboy;279966] Landon gets credit for that, but it's not worthy to rank him over CT, who would have easily done that because he's stronger than Landon, and has really good endurance aswell.[/QUOTE]So CT could have easily won FM2 with the last pick and weakest female, but the ONLY reason why he's never won was because of his weak teammates? If he can easily win with weaker teammates why didn't he do it on Inferno/Inferno 2/Rivals? His teams were not even that much worse on the Inferno 1 & 2. He's had some of the best competitors ever on his teams during those 2 challenges. (Miz, Derrick, Abram, Rachel, Veronica) Also, if you want to discuss getting credit from other challengers, Laurel & Evelyn both said they'd take Landon over anyone in challenge history.
[QUOTE=josePortugal;279967]Landon is the best competitor in all challenge history he won agains Mark, Alton,Evan and Darrell, he is the best, CT is the third after Landon and Alton[/QUOTE] LOL! Landon only won against Mark because Mark was 37 years old and past his prime.........yet Landon only barely outperformed Mark. Landon was inferior to Alton on the Gauntlet 2 and acknowledged it. Evan declined since Fresh Meat 1 and the Duel 1 and gave his worst performance in the missions on the Duel 2. Darrell is a great competitor when he needed to be the most, otherwise he was just average he got outperformed by Dave on the Gauntlet 1. And CT was the best overall on the Inferno 2, not Landon. Mark, CT, and Timmy are the top three all time. [QUOTE]So CT could have easily won FM2 with the last pick and weakest female, but the ONLY reason why he's never won was because of his weak teammates? If he can easily win with weaker teammates why didn't he do it on Inferno/Inferno 2/Rivals? [/QUOTE] Man.....there is a huge difference between team challenges and pair challenges! All CT would have to worry about is Carely, that's it! On the Inferno he was stuck with a far inferior team and one person cannot carry an entire team over. [QUOTE]His teams were not even that much worse on the Inferno 1 & 2. He's had some of the best competitors ever on his teams during those 2 challenges. (Miz, Derrick, Abram, Rachel, Veronica)[/QUOTE] The Bad ***** had poor chemistry. If Landon was on the ********, his *** would of lost right with his teammates and there would of been nothing he could do. [QUOTE] Also, if you want to discuss getting credit from other challengers, Laurel & Evelyn both said they'd take Landon over anyone in challenge history. [/QUOTE] WOW! Two people that came on the challenge seen in the new era know about all the challengers that have competed in challenge history....... right! They know nothing of Mark, Timmy, Theo V, Dan(RR5), Christian(RR2), Colin, and Chadwick.
[QUOTE=Superboy;279969]LOL! Landon only won against Mark because Mark was 37 years old and past his prime.........yet Landon only barely outperformed Mark. Landon was inferior to Alton on the Gauntlet 2 and acknowledged it. Evan declined since Fresh Meat 1 and the Duel 1 and gave his worst performance in the missions on the Duel 2. Darrell is a great competitor when he needed to be the most, otherwise he was just average he got outperformed by Dave on the Gauntlet 1. And CT was the best overall on the Inferno 2, not Landon. Mark, CT, and Timmy are the top three all time.[/QUOTE] What has CT done? He hasn't done anything...he only beat Evan and Brad, Landon has beaten all the strong competitors and won 3 challenges and he the only reason he didn't win the Duel 2 was because Brad used dirty tricks.
Why is everyone still arguing with Superboy? Don't you all realize now that he is the only one here who knows how to judge competitors? He is superior to everyone because he has the elite knowledge of judging people on a tv show? We have nothing on him and his notebook of statistics that take months and months of observation to collect? Let him be. Whether you agree with him or not isn't important because he knows. He is a competitor analyzing specialist.
[QUOTE=faceless] Why is everyone still arguing with Superboy? Don't you all realize now that he is the only one here who knows how to judge competitors? He is superior to everyone because he has the elite knowledge of judging people on a tv show? We have nothing on him and his notebook of statistics that take months and months of observation to collect? Let him be. Whether you agree with him or not isn't important because he knows. He is a competitor analyzing specialist. [/QUOTE] Have you seen all the challenges dating back to the first?
[QUOTE=Superboy;279969]LOL! Landon only won against Mark because Mark was 37 years old and past his prime.........yet Landon only barely outperformed Mark. Landon was inferior to Alton on the Gauntlet 2 and acknowledged it. Evan declined since Fresh Meat 1 and the Duel 1 and gave his worst performance in the missions on the Duel 2. Darrell is a great competitor when he needed to be the most, otherwise he was just average he got outperformed by Dave on the Gauntlet 1. And CT was the best overall on the Inferno 2, not Landon. Mark, CT, and Timmy are the top three all time. Man.....there is a huge difference between team challenges and pair challenges! All CT would have to worry about is Carely, that's it! On the Inferno he was stuck with a far inferior team and one person cannot carry an entire team over. The Bad ***** had poor chemistry. If Landon was on the ********, his *** would of lost right with his teammates and there would of been nothing he could do. WOW! Two people that came on the challenge seen in the new era know about all the challengers that have competed in challenge history....... right! They know nothing of Mark, Timmy, Theo V, Dan(RR5), Christian(RR2), Colin, and Chadwick.[/QUOTE] I think it's even easier to win with a big team with only 1 or 2 weak links, than it is to win a partner challenge with a weak teammate. We've seen weak competitors win team challenges a LOT more than we've seen weak competitors win partner challenges. CT did not need to carry his weak links by himself, he's had strong competitors with him both times. Bottom line is, your arguments are all hypothetical scenarios. You don't know how CT would do with Carley on FM2, all we know is Landon managed to win a challenge with a weaker teammate and CT hasn't And you really think Timmy is better than Landon? The same Timmy who was the worst competitor on his team in 7 of the 10 missions he competed in on the Inferno 3?
[QUOTE=Superboy;279974]You don't derserve to be in this debate! [/QUOTE] If you think you're smarter and better informed than other members [bully behavior], why not have a go at me? I don't expect it will greatly task my capacity to respond to your commentary, such as it is...
[QUOTE=V1man;279980]If you think you're smarter and better informed than other members [bully behavior], why not have a go at me? I don't expect it will greatly task my capacity to respond to your commentary, such as it is...[/QUOTE] lol V1 you're still awesome!
[QUOTE][b]I think it's even easier to win with a big team with only 1 or 2 weak links, than it is to win a partner challenge with a weak teammate. [/B]We've seen weak competitors win team challenges a LOT more than we've seen weak competitors win partner challenges. CT did not need to carry his weak links by himself, he's had strong competitors with him both times. Bottom line is, your arguments are all hypothetical scenarios. You don't know how CT would do with Carley on FM2, all we know is Landon managed to win a challenge with a weaker teammate and CT hasn't[/QUOTE] So if you replace Landon with CT on the Inferno 2 the Bad ***** would of won? [QUOTE]And you really think Timmy is better than Landon? The same Timmy who was the worst competitor on his team in 7 of the 10 missions he competed in on the Inferno 3[/QUOTE] Yes i do. Timmy is "The Secret Weapon" as Beth stated on the Gauntlet 2 preview show. Was considered the strongest Road Rules competitor by his own team and by the Real World team on the Inferno 1 and was Road Rules leader. He beat two great competitors in Derrick and Abram(even though he got a DQ, he still basically beat Abram, he just made an ignorant mistake by standing up and knocking the glass out), andhe was consider a better competitor than Alton on the Inferno 3(Kenny who was on the ******** said he would rather go up against Altonthan Timmy, stating that Timmy was "no joke") and was once again named captain(while also having a [B]bad leg injury[/B]). He was VERY strong, asevident in the first mission on the Inferno were he got across the wire with using just his hands, and utterly destroyed Derrick(a guy who outwrestled the 230 pound Syrus) in the final male Gauntlet on the Gauntlet 2. And he was the only player that Mike the Miz feared to go against as Mike admitted to being scared to face Timmy in the Inferno on the first episode of Inferno 1. He was very athletic as shown in the climbing wall mission on the Inferno 1, getting a time of 37 seconds, SMOKING every other competitor. He was a natural leader and had a great mindset about the challenges. [QUOTE] If you think you're smarter and better informed than other members [bully behavior], why not have a go at me? I don't expect it will greatly task my capacity to respond to your commentary, such as it is... [/QUOTE] LOL! You think you can take me, than come on! Who was a better overall competitor Theo V or The Miz? Explain.
You all are crazy because we all know that Kenny is by far the most superior athlete and would smoke CT and Landon any day. Duh.
[QUOTE=Superboy;279982] So if you replace Landon with CT on the Inferno 2 the Bad ***** would of won? [/QUOTE] Maybe. You said yourself the ******** had terrible team chemistry, and Landon would certainly be better for team chemistry than CT IMO (Seeing as how CT has argued with teammates on multiple occasions). At the end of the day it's completely irrelevant how Landon would have done on the ********.
[QUOTE=josePortugal;279988]You really are a joke put Timmy in front of guys like Landon, Alton and Darrell is insane[/QUOTE] That's because you don't know competitors. Mike the Miz himself feared Timmy. [QUOTE=JEK & Wes;279989]Maybe. You said yourself the ******** had terrible team chemistry, and Landon would certainly be better for team chemistry than CT IMO (Seeing as how CT has argued with teammates on multiple occasions). At the end of the day it's completely irrelevant how Landon would have done on the ********.[/QUOTE] Tina and Tonya are also are big reason to why they lost the final because they had to be carried. What more could Landon of done than Abram and CT who were carrying them?
[QUOTE=Superboy;279990] Tina and Tonya are also are big reason to why they lost the final because they had to be carried. What more could Landon of done than Abram and CT who were carrying them?[/QUOTE] Who knows what could have happened with Landon on the ******** instead of CT. It's pointless to argue hypothetical scenarios. [QUOTE]That's because you don't know competitors. Mike the Miz himself feared Timmy. [/QUOTE]You really put way too much consideration into how competitors are perceived by the cast. You know Danny (Austin) was looked at by the GG's as the ******** best player on the Inferno 3, right? Does that make Danny a great competitor?
[QUOTE]You know Danny (Austin) was looked at by the GG's as the ******** best player on the Inferno 3, right? Does that make Danny a great competitor?[/QUOTE] LOL when?

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