[QUOTE=jojorules;260967]Wow surprised Derrick wanted to do one with Wes and vice versa. Derrick talks so much **** about Wes. If Wes starts talking about how he is the best ever, how is Derrick going to respond?[/QUOTE]
Yeah I know, it should be interesting, but Nehemiah is there so it wont be too awkward. I want to know why Derrick doesn't like him, I've never heard Wes say bad stuff about Derrick besides for the 1 time he called him dumb on the ruins. Derrick seems to not like more than Kenny does.
Derrick is basically boys with Kenny/Johnny/Evan. He started winning challenges when he was not having to go in the eliminations if i remember. Inferno 3(sub for CT), ruins, and the island? Did he go in once in the three he won? I think Derrick has 3 wins, but honestly can't remember the other ones he was in that he won.
Wes beat him on the duel and i guess Derrick was bitter. Plus JEK really don't like him so not surprised he doesn't.
[QUOTE=jojorules;260972]Derrick is basically boys with Kenny/Johnny/Evan. He started winning challenges when he was not having to go in the eliminations if i remember. Inferno 3(sub for CT), ruins, and the island? Did he go in once in the three he won? I think Derrick has 3 wins, but honestly can't remember the other ones he was in that he won.
Wes beat him on the duel and i guess Derrick was bitter. Plus JEK really don't like him so not surprised he doesn't.[/QUOTE]
Once on I3 and two or three times on The Island, depending on if you count the one where he was selected as Ashli's partner or not. He'd have probably faced Brad at the end of The Ruins had he not gotten kicked off too.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;260975]Once on I3 and two or three times on The Island, depending on if you count the one where he was selected as Ashli's partner or not. He'd have probably faced Brad at the end of The Ruins had he not gotten kicked off too.[/QUOTE]
Nevermind. He won 1 elimination on island. 1 inferno 3 i think. Still not a ton but at least he didn't get a free ride. I don't think he beat the best people on either but he had such a long losing streak hard to nit pick..
If he hates Wes, i'd like to see him ask a lot of difficult questions to him and find out what he wants to know. I doubt it though, because they gave Dustin a ton of *** and when he had him on didn't really back what he was saying earlier, other than just saying he wouldn't do gay **** haha.
[QUOTE=LaneV95;260996]I'm kind of confused was there supposed to be a Wes/Derrick/Nehemiah podcast tonight? Or am I wrong?[/QUOTE]
They're recording it tonight. The podcasts aren't live...he has to submit it to his website and have it edited and whatnot. It'll probably be on iTunes and [URL="http://ultimatechallengeradio.com"]UltimateChallengeRadio.com[/URL] at some point tomorrow.
[QUOTE=Blue123;260927]I heard some still like him, Ev, Nehemiah, Jonna, Jasmine, Anessa, Jen and Mandi all seem to still like [B]him and Nehemiah, CT, Laurel, Paula and CM all went out together after the after show[/B], so it's not like they can't stand each other. Even Kenny and Johnny defended him on the CT fight and they said it's unlikely Wes and CT would get in a fight on the reunion because they've seen each other since then.[/QUOTE]
Which aftershow are you talking about? I don't see any aftershows posted on MTV.com.
I don't think they hate him enough to hit him on first sight, but don't prefer his company. Kenny and Johnny sort of defended him, but also said Wes woke them up because he was afraid CT would kill him haha. They all say he is scared of CT, not that I blame him. Their defense of him was he was trying to get under CT's skin, but since CT didn't hit him, I don't see how Wes won between the two in the showdown. The whole point was to get rid of him not be yelled at for hours on end.
I am sure off the show he is much less arrogant, because they aren't competing and there is no camera off the show.
[QUOTE=kba85;261171]Which aftershow are you talking about? I don't see any aftershows posted on MTV.com.[/QUOTE]
They filmed an after show like a week ago, it hasn't aired yet.
I am really curious about that podcast though. I am sure there will be a lot of *** talking. I wonder what Derrick says in response too if he calls him out or what.
[QUOTE=jojorules;261175]I am really curious about that podcast though. I am sure there will be a lot of *** talking. I wonder what Derrick says in response too [B]if he calls him out[/B] or what.[/QUOTE]
I hope so, but seriously doubt it. I loved Derrick on the challenges, but I think he's quite the flip-flopper on his podcast. What I mean is that he seems to always go along with and repeat exactly what Kenny, and especially Johnny say, so he constantly attacks people; and then when he has those people on on, he plays both sides and defends them after he talked **** about them.
[QUOTE=CherryPie;261206]I hope so, but seriously doubt it. I loved Derrick on the challenges, but I think he's quite the flip-flopper on his podcast. What I mean is that he seems to always go along with and repeat exactly what Kenny, and especially Johnny say, so he constantly attacks people; and then when he has those people on on, he plays both sides and defends them after he talked **** about them.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. He did the same thing when he had Dustin Zito on the podcast.
Dude, I am so looking forward to that podcast! Derrick always has some smart comments about Wes, rather his friends JEK have some smart comments about WES. And, Nehemiah is going to tag along as well, can't wait. On a side note, Wes is so hated for obvious reasons, yet, I wish the best. I think he's forced to behave in such fashion because of the show.
[QUOTE=CherryPie;261206]I hope so, but seriously doubt it. I loved Derrick on the challenges, but I think he's quite the flip-flopper on his podcast. What I mean is that he seems to always go along with and repeat exactly what Kenny, and especially Johnny say, so he constantly attacks people; and then when he has those people on on, he plays both sides and defends them after he talked **** about them.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but looking at those podcasts, Johnny typically only has good things to say about Wes, unless it's specifically about his appearance, and Kenny will sort of play his character without really attacking Wes either. Derrick on the other hand really seems to have an axe to grind with Wes, so I'm interested to see how this podcast plays out.
[QUOTE=jojorules;260978][B]Nevermind. He won 1 elimination on island. 1 inferno 3 i think. Still not a ton but at least he didn't get a free ride[/B]. I don't think he beat the best people on either but he had such a long losing streak hard to nit pick..
If he hates Wes, i'd like to see him ask a lot of difficult questions to him and find out what he wants to know. I doubt it though, because they gave Dustin a ton of *** and when he had him on didn't really back what he was saying earlier, other than just saying he wouldn't do gay **** haha.[/QUOTE]
Do those faceoffs really count on the Island? You're not actually facing elimination, its the vote off which will send you home. Also I don't get the "free ride" thing, how is avoiding an elimination round a free ride? You have to work hard to WIN the challenges and put yourself in a spot to not go in a elimination round. If you go in multiple elimination rounds in a game, you're doing SOMETHING wrong.
I'm surprised that Derrick is interviewing Wes, he always seems to criticize him whenever he has the chance. I'm interested to see Wes on a interview setting, and how it varies from his persona on the show.
[QUOTE=ClubSandwich;261261]Yeah but looking at those podcasts, Johnny typically only has good things to say about Wes, unless it's specifically about his appearance, and Kenny will sort of play his character without really attacking Wes either. Derrick on the other hand really seems to have an axe to grind with Wes, so I'm interested to see how this podcast plays out.[/QUOTE]
Really I've never heard Johnny or Kenny say anything positive towards Wes besides for defending him with the whole CT thing and I think that's only because they don't like CT.
[QUOTE=RWRRULES;261265]
Im surprised that Derrick is interviewing Wes, he always seems to criticize him whenever he has the chance. I'm interested to see Wes on a interview setting, and how it varies from his persona on the show.[/QUOTE]
Lol you know what I am not even sure if Wes knows that Derrick doesn't like him, and maybe Wes doesn't even listen to the podcasts. He doesn't really seem like the type to jump at the opportunity to hear Johnny and Kenny talk. Yeah I wonder if he's gonna play up his arrogance, but Wes used to be very chill in after show interviews back on Fresh Meat 1 and the Duel and even on the Ruins he seemed real down to earth when they were talking back stage.
[QUOTE=Blue123;261269]Really I've never heard Johnny or Kenny say anything positive towards Wes besides for defending him with the whole CT thing and I think that's only because they don't like CT.[/QUOTE]
On Inferno 3, when CT left, Kenny was hoping to get one of the "real bad *****," like Wes, Derrick or Evan. Kenny and Wes didn't really have beef before The Island, and Evan's dislike of Wes is really Evan's own stupidity because he was the one who agreed, and then followed through, with calling out CT and getting eliminated in the Duel.
[QUOTE=Blue123;261269]Really I've never heard Johnny or Kenny say anything positive towards Wes besides for defending him with the whole CT thing and I think that's only because they don't like CT.[/QUOTE]
John even called out Derrick on his bias against Wes in one of his podcasts, it was during the challenge hall of fame conversations I think.
Also when they had to choose Cut Throat style teams with Real World, Road Rules and Fresh Meat themes, John chose Wes for part of his Real World team, I think Landon, Alton, and Randy were the other 3 (CT and Brad being obvious omissions because those are two people that John actually doesn't get along with unlike Wes).
I really think there might have been some bad blood between Wes and Kenny over what took place on the Island, but everything since the Ruins leads me to believe it's just put on for what they think is good TV.
Derrick on the other hand, I don't know if he took being called stupid super personally or if he's actually sour over losing his Duel to what he believes was a juiced up Wes, but it legitimately appears like he dislikes Wes a ton.
[QUOTE=Moonpaw;261273]On Inferno 3, when CT left, Kenny was hoping to get one of the "real bad *****," like Wes, Derrick or Evan. Kenny and Wes didn't really have beef before The Island, and Evan's dislike of Wes is really Evan's own stupidity because he was the one who agreed, and then followed through, with calling out CT and getting eliminated in the Duel.[/QUOTE]
Lol that was years ago!!!So that I3 comment doesn't count lol. Kenny and Wes used to be friends, if you saw Fresh Meat and the Duel you can see them hang out together, even on this one you see Wes hanging around JEK more than the other partners do like Nehemiah and Tyler. I don't know I just find the whole red head freckled face comments to be kind of vain, rude and exaggerated, there's plenty of people with red hair. JEK's comments are all superficial but I really want to know what Derrick's problem is because he seems to like him for some other reason that doesn't have to do with his hair colour. And Johnny picked him to be on his pretend team on that podcast because he's a better athlete than some other Real World people.
I don't know if Derrick has any real legitimate reason to not like Wes. If it's cause he lost to him, [strike]than[/strike] then he should feel that same way about Timmy, Darrell, and Tyler, but he doesn't seem to. If it's because Wes threatened to throw mission on the Ruins, well then he should not like Johnny cause Johnny wanted to throw the last mission on the Ruins. I think Derrick just isn't good at thinking so he hasn't really figured it out that JEK do in fact get along just fine with Wes and are playing up the beef for the show.
I think I heard on Duel Wes said that he wanted Derrick to be his children Godfather or smth like that. And the only person what Derrick don't like is TY. I think.
From my understanding there's some people that are very hated during the challenge but outside of the camera they're pretty likable. In the end it's a game and most the people on the challenges like each other out of the game(ofcourse there's a few that dislike each other still).
Too bad they recorded Wes and Nehemiaha's podcast on Monday and Brandon and Mark's today, Brandon is already off the show so they should have done Wes/Nehemiaha's tomorrow so they can comment on tonight's episode
[QUOTE=ClubSandwich;261261]Yeah but looking at those podcasts, Johnny typically only has good things to say about Wes, unless it's specifically about his appearance, and Kenny will sort of play his character without really attacking Wes either. Derrick on the other hand really seems to have an axe to grind with Wes, so I'm interested to see how this podcast plays out.[/QUOTE]
Johnny has been talking trash about Wes in twitter and Derrick has said several times he didn't like the comments of Wes in Fresh Meat 2 when he said that he was the best challenge champion of all times and the comment that Wes said when he was eliminated, when he said that the castmembers were lower individuals than him
Wes really has something loose in his head. I mean, it could either be that he really thinks he is the greatest person to ever live or he thinks the things he says are funny. I don't know what he's done to make him think he is superior than everyone else.
I'm listening to his podcast right now with Nehemiah. Aside from the fact that this might be Derrick's worst interviewing job to date, he hasn't been so bad. And I generally don't like him.
[QUOTE=faceless;261355]Wes really has something loose in his head. I mean, it could either be that he really thinks he is the greatest person to ever live or he thinks the things he says are funny. I don't know what he's done to make him think he is superior than everyone else.[/QUOTE]
Or... Wes is doing exactly what production asked of him, and he, Kenny and the gang are all laughing at the way the saps respond to his over-the-top, outrageous comments (sap = fan).
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