[QUOTE=BillyBear231;229677]Im saying that you can't say she is the best competitor, because she was carried the whole way, which was a logical choice, but im saying you don't know what would have happened with her, had there been someone smaller to carry.[/QUOTE]
She was only carried for the part where it was required to carry someone..
And anyways, she was still carried in the final mission. Mandi wasn't, Paula wasn't, Melinda wasn't, Camila wasn't... because they lost. That should say at least something. There was nobody smaller in the final mission because they couldn't make it to the final mission.
[QUOTE=mph922;229683]She was only carried for the part where it was required to carry someone..
And anyways, she was still carried in the final mission. Mandi wasn't, Paula wasn't, Melinda wasn't, Camila wasn't... because they lost. That should say at least something. There was nobody smaller in the final mission because they couldn't make it to the final mission.[/QUOTE]
Exactly we can only speculate, let's leave it at that.
[QUOTE=RubenJay05;229687]
[B]Diem- 28 (July 12 1982) <--- dont think that ones true or even possible[/B][/QUOTE]
I think that's accurate. According to MTV.com she was 25 at the time when Fresh Meat aired which was 4 years ago. So 28/29 would be about right.
If you wanna know the ages for specifically the cutthroat cast then figure that every Fresh Meat 2 cast member has to be 26 or younger since the age limit is 24/25 and the cast just premiered in 2009. Also Dunbar celebrated his 26 bday on the show.
[QUOTE=Youssarian;229651]I love when Jenn fights with someone. She yells nonsense and moves her arms and shoulders in rapid motions. LOL. That's really random, but I think that's my favorite thing about Jenn. "Horse faced Tori Spelling reject!"[/QUOTE]
That's exactly why I'm NOT a fan of Jenn. She runs her mouth and it makes no sense. She thinks that the objective of an argument is to be the first one to yell out 100 words without taking a breath.
[QUOTE=BillyBear231;229650]That was then im saying that this season she sucked and didn't do anyhting[/QUOTE]
I respectfully disagree. Whether or not people want to think her elimination against Tina was fair, she still won. I think she still would have beaten Theresa one-on-one. And I don't know what you're griping about. Tori won Cutthroat, and won an elimination round on the way. Plenty of people have won a Challenge without going into an elimination. Kenny won The Ruins and Inferno 3. Derrick and Evan on The Ruins, Rachel on Duel 2, to name a few. so are you going to say they all sucked and didn't do anything?
[QUOTE=BillyBear231;229677]Im saying that you can't say she is the best competitor, because she was carried the whole way, which was a logical choice, but im saying you don't know what would have happened with her, had there been someone smaller to carry.[/QUOTE]
What would have happened with her is that Tori wouldn't have been on the stretcher, the smaller person would have been, because the logical course of action is to put the smallest person on the stretcher. She probably would have ran alongside the team and helped carry the stretcher, but from what I remember in the final, the three guys seemed to have little problems carrying her around, so I doubt that the same 3 guys, plus Tori to help out, would have had a problem carrying a single 100 pound girl around, and I don't think it would have drastically altered her performance in the final.
Didn't want to get onto this Jenn argument, but how exactly did she and the guy who's supposed to be the best of the FM2 guys not beat Jillian/Pete considering Jillian was pretty much the Casey of FM2? I'm not trying to add fuel to this or anything, I'm just highly curious cause I didn't watch all of the FM2 final but I'd have assumed that they would have finished ahead.
Unless it was Noor's asthma, well Jenn may not be as great as she's been portrayed.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;229693]Didn't want to get onto this Jenn argument, but how exactly did she and the guy who's supposed to be the best of the FM2 guys not beat Jillian/Pete considering Jillian was pretty much the Casey of FM2? I'm not trying to add fuel to this or anything, I'm just highly curious cause I didn't watch all of the FM2 final but I'd have assumed that they would have finished ahead.
Unless it was Noor's asthma, well Jenn may not be as great as she's been portrayed.[/QUOTE]
The last mission was the longest mission in Challenge history (the obstacle course). Jenn & Noor competed in that one, then later that night went into the Exile against Theresa & Ryan. They had one day's rest, then it was the final. I would definitely say that they were exhausted by then, thus them having a slow time.
Katie also mentioned on Derrick's podcast that Jenn said she never trained for any challenges until Cutthroat.
[QUOTE=yankeegurl93;229692]Cutthroat Cast Ages:
Tori - 24
Sarah - 24
JD - 24
Chet - 25
Jenn - 26
Melinda - 27
Dunbar - 26
Camila - 23?
Brandon - 26
Cara Maria - 24
Vinny - 26
Mandi - 23
Luke - 23
Theresa - 25
Laurel - 25
Derrick - 27
Abram - 27
Tyler - 28
Johnny - 28
Paula - 29
Big Easy - 30
Katie - 31
Brad - 30
Shauvon - 28
Emily - 22
Emilee - 23
Derek - 23
Ty - 24
Ayiiia - 25
Dan - 27
I think these are right, please correct me if they're wrong. I'm not so sure of Camila's age.
Average Cutthroat Cast Age = 25.76[/QUOTE]
Emily from DC has to be 21 at the most. She was 19 on her season and that wasn't that long ago. Laurel I think is older than 25. Ayiiia is 23 as far as a I know- she graduated HS in 2005- which is my year. Surprisingly a lot of fresh meaters are still older than some road rulers. Jillian, Kina, Derrick, Ibis, Tori, Abram and probably a few others are younger than Diem, Big Easy, Kenny, Ryan, and even a few are younger than Laurel, Brandon, and Vinny.
[QUOTE] respectfully disagree. Whether or not people want to think her elimination against Tina was fair, she still won. I think she still would have beaten Theresa one-on-one. And I don't know what you're griping about. Tori won Cutthroat, and won an elimination round on the way. Plenty of people have won a Challenge without going into an elimination. Kenny won The Ruins and Inferno 3. Derrick and Evan on The Ruins, Rachel on Duel 2, to name a few. so are you going to say they all sucked and didn't do anything?[/QUOTE]
No im not saying that but all those people did awesome in the challenges, Tori isn't' the star of the challenges. she is different than them, and even so, she had her husband's support the whole time. And i also have to disagree, i think if it were Tori versus Theresa Theresa would have come out on top.
[QUOTE]What would have happened with her is that Tori wouldn't have been on the stretcher, the smaller person would have been, because the logical course of action is to put the smallest person on the stretcher. She probably would have ran alongside the team and helped carry the stretcher, but from what I remember in the final, the three guys seemed to have little problems carrying her around, so I doubt that the same 3 guys, plus Tori to help out, would have had a problem carrying a single 100 pound girl around, and I don't think it would have drastically altered her performance in the final.[/QUOTE]
Well those three guys were all brolic so im not saying that they in particular would have been slowed down, I think that had Tori been running she would have slowed them down, like Sarah, and, jenn and Emily had all been slowed down, she admitted that she wasn't a strong runner so i think it may have given the gray team a better chance to catch up and maybe even pull out a win.
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Well those three guys were all brolic so im not saying that they in particular would have been slowed down, I think that had Tori been running she would have slowed them down, like Sarah, and, jenn and Emily had all been slowed down, she admitted that she wasn't a strong runner so i think it may have given the gray team a better chance to catch up and maybe even pull out a win.[/QUOTE]
Well that whole "Tori's not a strong runner" singsong was made up for the cameras. It's been mentioned repeatedly around here and Brad explained it pretty thoroughly on the podcast he did with Derrick. I don't really know where you're going with this...whether Tori had been on the stretcher or not, I don't think it would have affected the outcome.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;229693]Didn't want to get onto this Jenn argument, but how exactly did she and the guy who's supposed to be the best of the FM2 guys not beat Jillian/Pete considering Jillian was pretty much the Casey of FM2? I'm not trying to add fuel to this or anything, I'm just highly curious cause I didn't watch all of the FM2 final but I'd have assumed that they would have finished ahead.
Unless it was Noor's asthma, well Jenn may not be as great as she's been portrayed.[/QUOTE]
My point exactly. Jenn is average. Her bark is bigger than her bite.
[QUOTE=AJHill;229699]Well that whole "Tori's not a strong runner" singsong was made up for the cameras. It's been mentioned repeatedly around here and Brad explained it pretty thoroughly on the podcast he did with Derrick. I don't really know where you're going with this...whether Tori had been on the stretcher or not, I don't think it would have affected the outcome.[/QUOTE]
Well, I have to agree that Tori did not come out looking physically strong or very athletic in Cutthroat. However, she played the game her way, and won, so that's that. "What if's" really doesn't make sense at this point. Maybe she would have done worse, maybe same outcome, but these arguments just go in circles. I still don't like her, but hey, that's just personal opinion ;)
[QUOTE=RubenJay05;229696]Emily from DC has to be 21 at the most. She was 19 on her season and that wasn't that long ago. Laurel I think is older than 25. Ayiiia is 23 as far as a I know- she graduated HS in 2005- which is my year. Surprisingly a lot of fresh meaters are still older than some road rulers. Jillian, Kina, Derrick, Ibis, Tori, Abram and probably a few others are younger than Diem, Big Easy, Kenny, Ryan, and even a few are younger than Laurel, Brandon, and Vinny.[/QUOTE]
Emily just turned 22 a week ago. I went by the birth date on her fan page which was created by her.
It states [URL="http://vevmo.com/f187/fresh-meat-2-laurel-stucky-4313/"]here[/URL] that Laurel was 24 at the time it was posted (a year ago). She deleted her Facebook, so I don't have that to look at her age anymore. Wikipedia (I know, not the most reliable source) also says she was 24 at the time of filming.
My bad with Ayiiia, that was a mathematical error, haha.
Did everyone watch Cutthroat? Jenn was one of the strongest females there. She is a great competitor. I think people are confusing her athleticism with her loud mouth. Or maybe it outshines her.
[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;229707]Did everyone watch Cutthroat? Jenn was one of the strongest females there. She is a great competitor. I think people are confusing her athleticism with her loud mouth. Or maybe it outshines her.[/QUOTE]
She's always been tough, but (according to Katie) this season was the first time she worked out in preparation of the challenge. She said it made a huge difference.
[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;229707]Did everyone watch Cutthroat? Jenn was one of the strongest females there. She is a great competitor. I think people are confusing her athleticism with her loud mouth. [B]Or maybe it outshines her[/B].[/QUOTE]
Definitely..... IMO, she did well in this challenge and was considered strong because she was the strongest girl on her team and she (and Katie) were the only vet girls on Blue team. It's the whole "Among average and bad competitors, she'll shine" thing, but she has never been a top competitor nor was ever seen as a strong athlete and one of the best girls on these challenges as far as I can remember. She's always been average to me except on Cutthroat.
[QUOTE]Emily just turned 22 a week ago. I went by the birth date on her fan page which was created by her.[/QUOTE]
WOW, i cannot believe i'm older than her.
Cancun was the first season in which I was older than a cast member. It feels weird since I've been watching since Boston. They've always been older than me but now there's Jonna, Derek, Emily, Andrew, and some of the new Fresh Meaters that are younger than me. Wow! I only have 1 more year until I'm "too old" to audition! Haha. Well actually a year and a half.
[QUOTE=RubenJay05;229687][B]Melinda- 27 (August 17 1983)
Derrick- 27 (August 17 1983)[/B][/QUOTE]
Am I the only one to find it weird that Melinda and Derrick have the same exact birthday? I know it doesn't matter, it's just weird.
[QUOTE=yankeegurl93;229692]
I think these are right, please correct me if they're wrong. I'm not so sure of Camila's age.
Average Cutthroat Cast Age = 25.7[/QUOTE]
Camila is 22.
Sorry I don't know where else this would go and didn't want to start a new thread if it would just get locked.
I remember somewhere it was discussed on some type of interview or podcast that Kenny tried a prank on several fresh meat 2 females saying production was disqualifying them because their male partners were caught smoking weed. Sydney, Mandi and Theresa all put up a fight but Jillian was okay with it or something like that. I've tried to search the forums and Derrick's podcasts but couldn't find it. Does anyone remember where this is and if so could you please direct me?
[QUOTE=gjams24;229731]Am I the only one to find it weird that Melinda and Derrick have the same exact birthday? I know it doesn't matter, it's just weird.[/QUOTE]
A lot of cast members have the same bday- that would be a cool post for the "challenge facts" thread.
[QUOTE=BillyBear231;229631]Just because Evelyn says so doesn't mean its (sic) right. I think Tori is not that great of a competitor.[/QUOTE]
Evelyn is certainly better equipped than nearly any of us to comment on a fellow cast member's ability. Beth agrees with Eve, by the way, and Beth is very sparse with compliments regarding the challenges.
[QUOTE=Youssarian;229651]I love when Jenn fights with someone. She yells nonsense and moves her arms and shoulders in rapid motions. LOL. That's really random, but I think that's my favorite thing about Jenn. "Horse faced Tori Spelling reject!"[/QUOTE]
Jenn called Tori a horse face? i thought she called Mandi a horse face.
[QUOTE=dorkyydaniel;229850]Jenn called Tori a horse face? i thought she called Mandi a horse face.[/QUOTE]
I think you may have misunderstood.
She called Mandi a Tori Spelling reject and a horse face.
[QUOTE=gjams24;229731]Am I the only one to find it weird that Melinda and Derrick have the same exact birthday? I know it doesn't matter, it's just weird.[/QUOTE]
Colie and Tyrie also have the same b-day.
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