[QUOTE]I'll have to ask you not to use the "double T" word, as not to risk invoking the ramblings of a certain boy of the super variety.[/QUOTE]
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I don't know why Tina thought it would be an easy win. Then again, she is practically a prize winning hyperbolist. But she hadn't competed with Tori before. CT really came across as a caged animal, locked up for weeks, groggy, just coming out of a sleep, and realizing that he's alive and free. I'm glad the gulag ended up being who could last longest with CT, because that was something I didn't expect. I don't think John should be embarrassed. It's CT - how many challengers can beat him!
I, too, loved Abram vs. Brad part II!
Gray team: OK, so if gray would have lost, they would not have known for sure if CM and Luke would have lost the gulag. So trying to win would be more beneficial so that they could get $20,000. While Laurel doesn't seem to let her emotions affect her competitive abilities in a mission, she sure does seem to let them affect her strategy wise. I am definitely with those who think it wasn't smart for them to want to throw a challenge. Luckily they did get it together. As for the bus confrontation, doesn't Abram supposedly already think Laurel hasn't been bringing her A-game? At least, that was his argument against Laurel when he voted her in instead of CM. Nice time to say CM is the weaker one, though, Abram - at the end. As much as I think Laurel desperately needs to stop sprouting off about it (but not forget), Abram (and Luke and CM) helped create this situation by making it seem Laurel had to prove herself when CM has not competed as well. I think CM seems like an OK enough person, but I think she is a bit delusional about how well she's competed. Abram has not helped in that department.
Red team: I see Paula's point when she mentioned Tori's remarks about not being able to run the final. Then again, I can see Tori's side about how she already went in. However, when Brad said it was Paula's time to go in, how come that didn't apply to the guys? Shouldn't that mean Brad was going in? Of course he wouldn't want to vote himself in, though. Brad doesn't want to look like the bad guy. He made a comment about Tyler trying to look like the good guy, but Tyler did nothing but get voted in and decide not to make a huge deal over it. Sorry that you look not so great because of it, Brad. Brad came across smarmy at the end when talking about it being a business transaction. Why is Paula upset - because she was one of your business partners. She did mess herself up by voting for Dunbar, though, earlier on.
Blue team: I agree it was pretty admirable of Emily to volunteer again. She could have easily said Jenn should go because she hasn't had a turn. And Derrick could have agreed.
[QUOTE=Camille;225753]also I want to say, does anyone remember like I do on the very first episode of Fresh Meat 2 when they were sizing up the skills of the Fresh Meat competitors and it turned out that Cara Maria was by far the best girl there! She was better than Laurel!
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I think Laurel so badly wants to be seen as the greatest girl, so she's out to make Cara Maria look weak as possible because she didn't like that Cara Maria beat her in that matchup. [/QUOTE]
CM won the skills test, but she did not do well in the challenge, which is what ultimately counts. Laurel did better than her on the challenge. Laurel is most likely mainly upset because Abram made it sound like CM competed better than her, which was not true. I do agree that CM is not as undeserving as Laurel made her to be.
[QUOTE=RMD1;225754]Not at all. He played the game and played it well.
Why aren't people *****ing about Sarah or Jenn making it to the final without going in? People don't go in all the time and go to the final.
Mark (G2, D2)
Was he a ***** too?
No. He played a good game.[/QUOTE]
Of course Mark wasn't whatever word you typed that is censored! Mark competed well and did not have any excessive showing or interviews where he tried to spin everything around and tried to appear one way when being another way. He simply had a plan - one in which he did not try to lock nearly everyone in an alliance - and saw it through. He was a cool customer.
[QUOTE=Xeri99;225840]Funny how many people aren't putting themselves in Brad shoes. Would you seriously vote yourself into the Gulag, facing the wrath of your wife and your own conscience...when you don't even have to...with money on the line? It's so hypocritical to blame him for these things. He's playing the game by the book and doing a great job at it.
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No, I would not vote myself in if I were Brad. I don't blame him for that. It's not hypocritical for people to think Brad is looking silly with his excuses or think he looks bad for the way he is trying to pull things off, though.
[QUOTE=joek85;225844]He was possibly the strongest competitor on BOTS2, only got sent home because he was a rookie[/QUOTE]
I don't think Brad was the strongest in BOTS2. Stronger than Eric, yes. Stronger than Theo, Dan, and probably Mark? I don't feel he was. But definitely what happened to him seemed unfair.
Can we just have a challenge where CT is left in a cage and during a competition, they just let CT out to go after his victims? Cause watching CT carry Johnny on his back like he was heading to school with a Johnny-pack was the greatest thing ever.
I want a gif of that.
[QUOTE=trees12;225913] I was so proud of Tyler he did awesome. I thought it was totally rude of Johnny to insult Tyler because he was upset about losing and that tyler did way better than him.[/QUOTE]
Yeah Tyler did good, he's nothing compared to CT though .
And as far as Johnny goes, he had a disadvantage going in since he was the one going first and that this gulag was about not only strength, but weight too .
It was sure entertaining to watch CT with his custom made johnnybananas backpack though; he's such a ******* beast he better be on the next challenge (duel 3 anyone ?) (: .
Too bad for Derrick that he couldn't have teamed up with Red to defeat the Grey Team. That way he could have faced Luke in the last Gulag. Given the format of the final mission, the only way it could work is if he could convince Jenn and Emily to gang up with the Red girls against the Grey girls.
1. I agree with whoever in the background said they wouldn't show their face on a Challenge if they got manhandled by CT on last night's episode. Johnny doesn't need to show his face on a Challenge for a while.
2. Tori doesn't need to cheer ever again lol.
3. Paula needs to rely on herself on these Challenges because relying on some big buff dude isn't working out in her favor.
That is all.
I'm sooo excited for the Derrick/Tyler Gulag next week. It's gonna be that pole thing... I think Derrick will beat Tyler because... Derrick is a beast! And of course, Emily will crush Paula.
What I think about the whole Brad not going in situation:
First off, I want to say that if I were in his shoes, I would NOT have volunteered. So I don't blame him for that. But the thing is, a couple of weeks ago, he was saying like: "Yeah, I have wanted to go in the Gulag for a long time but hey, my wife doesn't approve it." Then last week, Tyler said I'll go in if you take the next one. Brad says: "Fair enough." If you're not planning on going in, just say so and don't be a damn hypocrite about it! Brad has sunk down my challenge ladder a lot this challenge.
Although I have felt this way for awhile, Paula is so pathetic its almost hard to watch. The scene that got me the most was when she kept calling Dunbar "Johnny Bananas Johnny Bananas!" She is so incredibly unstable and clearly so far from identifying the root of her troubles (HERSELF).
Its weird to me that other people are known for being unstable, when to me, Paula is the leader of the pack in that department. Why is she treated and talked to like a rational human being when she is not? Hmm...karma sucks huh Paula?
I don't know about everyone else, but Tina should not be proud of her performance. I mean Theresa and Tori aren't very stellar athletes in my opinion, plus Tina certainly weighs more. It was just kind of embarrassing to me. And TJ goes "oh you should be proud of yourself, you showed why you're a 'heavy hitter'"
[QUOTE=Darock1713;225719]Screw Paula,
I knew Laurel had jealously from Fresh Meat 2. Tell her Abram, [B]Laurel is weak.[/B]
Abram didn't go into a gulag, but he carried his team to the final. Sarah got a free ride. Laurel need to get on Sarah, not Cara Maria.[/QUOTE]
Are we watching the same show? Because Laurel was trying to throw 2 challenges and was still a big reason why they won. SO as someone else said, Cara Maria was trying her best, and still Laurel did better than her with a half effort. If you call Laurel weak, you are calling Cara Maria REALLY weak, heck Laurel could beat Luke too.
[QUOTE=Camille;225732]Laurel takes the game too seriously! Who cares?! They are in the final now. What's the point in griping? To say "you wouldn't be here without Abe" just like she was going off on Carley on the Fresh Meat reunion because she was with a strong partner in Landon. Who cares? It's a game. And you're in the final so get over it and stop whining about things you can't even change.
And it wasn't a free ride really because Cara Maria did go into a Gulag and win more than once.[/QUOTE]
CM went in once.... against Mandi and barely beat her. Plus IMO Cara Maria is the only one whining every episode about who doesn't like her and how she' hurt. Don't get me wrong, I like the girl, but geez, get a little tougher dude. Everyone gets down on Paula for being mentally weak and Cara's just like her. At least Paula was sane on her first few challenges, CM ha been breaking down every challenge. Plus Laurel went into the gulag also, so I don't get your last point. The only people who didn't go in was Abe and Sarah. The facts are there, Cara is an OK competitor, but nowhere near great. IMO, Emily would have beaten her (just my opinion though).
[QUOTE=Darock1713;225738]Free rides:
Grey - Sarah
Red - Brad, Paula
Blue - No one
Sarah has done nothing. I'm sick of Laurel's ***. She makes me sick and is such a hypocrite. At least Cara Maria went in. Sarah did not win anything for their team on her own. Furthermore, I think Cara Maria could have easily won another gulag.
I wonder if Sarah would still be here if she went in. [B]Laurel, you did work in 1 challenge[/B]......that's it[/QUOTE]
It's one more than Cara did work in. Plus Laurel by far did better than Cara Maria in this challenge. I really don't get why some people make a big deal over Laurel and CM's issue. Cara is mentally weak, hasn't proven herself to be a great competitor and didn't get voted because Abe liked her (he himself said that). This is what Laurel is pissed about. Anyone who's there would be angry if you were stronger and CM was getting a free ride because of Abe.
Anyway onto the hypocrisy of Brad. I hope I never see him again on a challenge. I used to really like him, but wow, I don't anymore.
Paula, I kinda feel sorry for you, but I agree..... maybe it's karma. You treated Camila with alot of disrespect, and voted for Dunbar, so take what you gave.
I think Dunbar's dumb though, didn't Tori also vote for him?
This challenge- Derrick did really great, I love him. Abe did good too. Laurel babe, learn to act. But she did well. Cara did well also.
Brad said himself though after he said "fair enough" in one of those interview thingys "I don't know what Tyler thinks I'm agreeing to since he knew he was going in anyway" or something along those lines. I think that Brad realized that he never wins because he lays too low and doesn't get involved that much besides doing well. Now that he isn't just sitting back and letting everyone else yell at each other, it's paying off, isn't it?
It's a little hypocritical to say that Paula has to prove herself, but come on. If you could pick any of the three guys to be on your team from the red team, isn't Brad the obvious choice? Having him go against Derrick is just a dumb idea after he faced Abram, so I don't blame the guy.
Laurel on the other hand needs to shut the hell up considering she's been on one season and thinks she's the best to ever play the game. I kind of want to see her go against Jodi and get destroyed.
[QUOTE=RockSteadyVybes;225820]hahaha yeah. I dislike Laurel immensely, but I like Sarah. I agree that CaraMaria shouldn't be there but Sarah and Lauren should've worked harder to split them up when more people were still in the game. Their bad.
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Actually, I think they didn't throw it before because Laurel was picking up for Abe and CM earlier in the game. Her bad. She said that Abe wouldn't let his relationship with CM affect his game. Oh how wrong she was.
[QUOTE=Darock1713;225821]As much as i don't care for tori, she did volunteer to go in. [B]Yes, it is paula's time[/B]. if she had thought ahead, given her past experience of being "screwed", she would have made moved sooner to get rid of Tori and Brad by getting people like Camila, Tyler, Brandon, and Mandi to vote with her.
She has experience of being tricked by the "power alliance" when the numbers do not favor her. She thrives on screwing others, so yes molds is right.............. it's karma[/QUOTE]
Paula's time should = Brad' time. But I agree, Paula had the power to run things in this game. She had 2 people she was close to on her team (Dunbar and Tyler). She could have taken Brandon and Camila and run her team, overpowering the couple. She has no foresight, independence and control and I think that's her problem. Even before Paula goes into an elimination round, I always get this feeling from her like she's already given up, as though she has no confidence in herself.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;225850]It's not like Brad hasn't gotten screwed before:
Ruins: Whole season was a joke. [B]IMO he shouldn't have been kicked off for a fight that looked to me to be Darrell's fault but they started to kick off both people for fighting so can't really argue.[/B]
He seems to get screwed by the producers instead of the other competitors more often than not lol[/QUOTE]
Really? Because everyone there said Brad was starting it and provoking Darell. Even TJ apparently said he was trying to move for the person who was provoking to go home instead of the one who fought after being provoked. It was Brad own fault. He wasn't ready.
Btw, I like Evan. He may be scummy but he's the strongest of JEK and is willing to back it up if he needs to go into an elimination round. Johnny may not be scummy, but he's not that strong (basically won against a weaker Tyler and Dunbar). Kenny is in the middle for me. I still think that had Johnny gone against Tyler in this gulag, he'd lose.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;226050]
Laurel on the other hand needs to shut the hell up considering she's been on one season and thinks she's the best to ever play the game. I kind of want to see her go against Jodi and get destroyed.[/QUOTE]
You do get that by saying you want one of the strongest females to come in and destroy Laurel shows that even you think Laurel's a pretty strong competitor right? Hey, even Ev thought she was the best after her 1st. Laurel is like a giant, but less strong, younger version of Ev. Kinda a mixture of EV and Kenny. That's Laurel. I like that she's not afraid to speak her mind. She told Abe what she thought.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;226050]Brad said himself though after he said "fair enough" in one of those interview thingys "I don't know what Tyler thinks I'm agreeing to since he knew he was going in anyway" or something along those lines. I think that Brad realized that he never wins because he lays too low and doesn't get involved that much besides doing well. Now that he isn't just sitting back and letting everyone else yell at each other, it's paying off, isn't it?
It's a little hypocritical to say that Paula has to prove herself, but come on. If you could pick any of the three guys to be on your team from the red team, isn't Brad the obvious choice? [B]Having him go against Derrick is just a dumb idea after he faced Abram, so I don't blame the guy.[/B]
Laurel on the other hand needs to shut the hell up considering she's been on one season and thinks she's the best to ever play the game. I kind of want to see her go against Jodi and get destroyed.[/QUOTE]
But at the same time though Tyler went against CT and had to compete in that brutal challenge so why should Tyler have gone into the Gulag?
I'm still wondering where Brad left his balls this time after this episode. Are they still in his wife's purse or have they been moved to a nightstand? If Tyler went in once, Dunbar went in once and even his wife went in, why's he talking down to Paula for doing the same thing he's doing? That's more than a little hypocritical. Don't play I'm a nice guy, then knock someone for following your own game plan.
I wanna say "Poor Paula", but I'd rather see her stop relying on boneheads and get back to fighting her own battles via Inferno 3 and The Duel. She performed better when she wasn't expecting someone else to save her.
Derrick's a beast and if anyone watches this episode and wants to underestimate Derrick's ability to handle himself under pressure or not give up, then you must be blind. Even outnumbered, he didn't give up.
I'm glad Laurel didn't throw the mission. Not that she couldn't have done well against Tina, if grey had lost and Abram sent her in, but I dislike seeing athletes give into the politics and throw challenges. If Laurel had thrown the challenge, though, and blue had won, it'd have been Laurel v. Tina & Tori v. Tina and pretty sure Tori would have been sent home, which to me, would have changed the game more than Theresa or Cara Maria being sent home at this point. Also, Sarah's done well, but she kind of slid under the radar on this challenge. If grey had lost another challenge along the way, I wonder how Sarah would have reacted to being sent into the gulag.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;226063]But at the same time though Tyler went against CT and had to compete in that brutal challenge so why should Tyler have gone into the Gulag?[/QUOTE]
Plus the fact that Brad vs Abe was like what, 2 minutes? Tyler vs. CT was like 40 minutes I heard. And it's still no excuse for Brad, because the Gulag would be the day AFTER he fought Abe.
I'm just so disappointed in Brad. He used to be one of my favourites. I really really hope the Red Team does not win the final.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;226063]But at the same time though Tyler went against CT and had to compete in that brutal challenge so why should Tyler have gone into the Gulag?[/QUOTE]
Well I'm not saying he's completely in the right or anything, but if I had a choice between Tyler or Brad, I'd much rather have Brad in the finals. Tyler against CT though I mean shouldn't be a factor. By that I mean Tyler could have stopped at 20 seconds and still been ready for another one, but he assumed that he wasn't going into the last gulag so he wanted to prove that he could last with CT. Noble? Yeah. Smart? Hell no.
I just kind of want to see Brad to FINALLY win one after he always seemed to lose because of factors that aren't his fault. He lost fair and square a couple of times, but with how the producers treated the finals of The Duel and Gauntlet 3, the rules pretty much were put in place to screw one side over.
In my opinion though, that last mission was unfair to all of the teams. Any time where they're required to physically beat up another member of the show is just not right. AT LEAST give them face masks or something, I mean look at how messed up Derrick's face was.
[strike]so let me get this straight, after 40 minutes ct knocked down his barrel? they made it look as if they just blew the horn and stopped it after 20 seconds[/strike]
So let me get this straight, after 40 minutes CT knocked down his barrel? They made it look as if they just blew the born and stopped it after 20 seconds.
[QUOTE=inferno;226069]so let me get this straight, after 40 minutes ct knocked down his barrel? they made it look as if they just blew the horn and stopped it after 20 seconds[/QUOTE]
Neither of them knocked down their barrel. After 40mins it was basically called, CT was closer to his barrel and I believe Tyler gave in knowing he would have to compete the next day and had proved his point being able to last that long, so CT is deemed the "winner" of that round by default.
[QUOTE=tatertots;226070]Neither of them knocked down their barrel. After 40mins it was basically called, CT was closer to his barrel and I believe Tyler gave in knowing he would have to compete the next day and had proved his point being able to last that long, so CT is deemed the "winner" of that round.[/QUOTE]
gotcha, thanks for the explanation. i'm extremely impressed with tyler
Ugh. I really wish Brad just didn't do this challenge since he bugs the **** out of me this time around.
So because he stepped up in against Abe, he shouldn't have to go into the Gulag? So basically had Tyler stepped up, he wouldn't have gone it? Bull. Tyler would have done a Gulag with CT, then do the one on one with Abe, and then go into the Gulag again.
I can't believe Tyler and Dunbar are two of the more tolerable people this season.
Oh and since it can't be said enough, SHUT UP LAUREL. Though I'd like to say that to the entire Grey team at this point.
Also LOL at Johnny... yikes. At least he could kinda laugh about it but probably not as much as I did. Here's hoping Emily destroys Paula. Paula is, quite frankly, a moron. Did she really think they were going to send Tori in over her? Paula had yet to be in a Gulag and Tori just went. Granted, it should have been Brad and Paula but oh well.
[QUOTE=cryssy19;226060]You do get that by saying you want one of the strongest females to come in and destroy Laurel shows that even you think Laurel's a pretty strong competitor right? Hey, even Ev thought she was the best after her 1st. Laurel is like a giant, but less strong, [B]younger[/B] version of Ev. Kinda a mixture of EV and Kenny. That's Laurel. I like that she's not afraid to speak her mind. She told Abe what she thought.[/QUOTE]
Laurel is older than Ev. Ev is 23 now. Laurel was 24 at the time FM2 was taped, ~13 months ago. Ev just seems older because she's been doing this since she was 18.
Also, a couple people said Jenn was responsible for Tori's bloody nose. I had a closer look and I'm pretty sure that was Emily.
I need to watch that CT/Johnny gulag again. Even the cast thought it was hilarious. TJ said in Simmons' podcast that CT coming in was "next level" and it did not disappoint. I hope this means we'll see him come back and finally win.
My opinion of Tyler has skyrocketed on this Challenge. Johnny can go blame it on him overeating all he wants, but he put up a good fight against CT...even CT himself had to admit that. I loved his point about Johnny getting sent home every time they've been on together. He's handled everything very well and I love his attitude about not being afraid to go in.
As far as Brad's game on this season, I can't say I blame him. He's a solid (not great) competitor who I'm sure got sick of seeing bozos like Johnny win multiple Challenges. Also it could be his last one...he's doing whatever it takes to win. Having said that, I think he should have stepped up...but I understand why he didn't want to.
I'm sick of talking about Paula. Every time her *** is on the line, she thinks she got screwed over. It's pathetic. How can she say that Dunbar screwed her over when she opened the can of worms by voting him in first for falling during a mission IN WHICH SHE WAS ATTACHED TO HIM. You made your own bed, Paula. Now get sent home and spend another reunion crying the entire time.
Emily...WHY! Great attitude but I would have loved to see Jenn's *** on the line instead.
And Laurel needs to stop whining already. Cara Maria got to the end, deal with it. I don't think CM is the anchor that they're making her out to be. I loved what Cara Maria had to say to her...there's something to be said for humility. As much as I love Abram (definitely the MVP of the season by far), I really don't want to see the grey team win just because Sarah and Laurel have acted like such spoiled brats this whole time.
First time in a long time that I acutally really enjoyed watching an episode of the RW/RR Challenge. Since the stupid FM series started I say there were only a couple episodes on both Duels, Gauntlet 3, and Ruins that I liked, but yesterday's "Cut Throat" episode took the cake. I mean we saw the legend CT just humiliate Johnny "Bananas" and hopefully embarrassed him so bad that he will never return to another challenge. Now CT needs to do that to Evan and Kenny so they too can stay home with "Bananas" and never return to another challenge lol. Also finally we saw some action on why this challenge is called "Cut Throat." So many arguments between the red and gray team members really made for some good entertainment, and speaking of good entertainment how good was that mission? Of course the two ****** Road Rulers, Derrick and Abram stole the show there. I wish Abram went up against Derrick instead of B-Rad because "Big D" would've put up a bigger fight. Lastly enough with all the bad talk on Brad. He has finally taken his game to new heights on this challenge and isn't playing the Mr.Nice guy role. He has already paid his dues on these games and I can't wait to see him win his first ever challenge next week (Hopefully!). It's been long overdue my friend.
[QUOTE=Benfiquista;226091]1. Yesterday's "Cut Throat" episode took the cake. I mean we saw the legend CT just humiliate Johnny "Bananas" and hopefully embarrassed him so bad that he will never return to another challenge. 2. Now CT needs to do that to Evan and Kenny so they too can stay home with "Bananas" and never return to another challenge lol. [B]Lastly enough with all the bad talk on Brad. He has finally taken his game to new heights on this challenge and isn't playing the Mr.Nice guy role. He has already paid his dues on these games and I can't wait to see him win his first ever challenge next week (Hopefully!). [/B]It's been long overdue my friend.[/QUOTE]
Points 1 and 2 spot on, but IMO the last part about your friend , Brad needs to get his balls from wifey, hes a coward just like Kenny and Evan, they want everyone to work while they sail to the end.
Ugh, Tori is soooo unbearable. Oh noes!!! A bloody nose! She made it sound like she broke something the way she was crying for help. Did you guys see Derrick's face after the challenge? It was completely effed up. THAT actually looked painful.
I think the entire cast (except Emily and Derrick, and maaaaybe Tyler) are annoying the HECK out of me. I'm really annoyed that Emily stepped up again--she really didn't need to, and I wish Jenn would take her turn.
Where is the the information coming from saying that Tyler lasted 40 minutes against CT? Is it on Derrick's podcast? A daily? Was CT trying that hard to beat Tyler or just kind of maintaining a little bit of leverage?
[QUOTE=Goo Punch;226125]Where is the the information coming from saying that Tyler lasted 40 minutes against CT? Is it on Derrick's podcast? A daily? Was CT trying that hard to beat Tyler or just kind of maintaining a little bit of leverage?[/QUOTE]
There's a sneak peek of the reunion on mtv.com where Tyler says him and CT were going for 40 minutes.
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