[QUOTE=producer88;225803]Did you not see Laurel push Emily like she's a 50lb 5ft girl? Or the fact Tori literally did nothing this last challenge?
Plus Laurel carries the Grey team in the final. I'm pretty sure it's safe to say Laurel is the strongest girl.[/QUOTE]
Amen. I think Laurel is far and away the strongest girl with Emily as a distant second. I still wonder what could have been if Camila found Johnny more attractive than Dunbar. That teams first four would've probably been Johnny Derrick Laurel and Emily.
[QUOTE=producer88;225803]Did you not see Laurel push Emily like she's a 50lb 5ft girl? Or the fact Tori literally did nothing this last challenge?
Plus Laurel carries the Grey team in the final. I'm pretty sure it's safe to say Laurel is the strongest girl.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, she pushed Emily, but in a 3 on 1 riot shield where Emily has to watch from 3 sides. Laurel would never beat Emily or Tori in a gulag. She barely beat Camila, and just barely.
Yeah, she carried Abram in the final challenge, all part of a losing effort where they were way behind. Nothing stands out there. They didn't finish. Did she carry him to safety?
Tori did nothing last challenge, but when the pressure is on, Tori responds. She smoked Tina in 3 minutes in her gulag. I do not like Tori, but Laurel will NEVER beat her one on one, for all her talk, she is at the top tier of the middle of the road players in challenge history.
I watched Evelyn toss her around like a rag doll, and she was helpless.
[QUOTE=Darock1713;225779]I agree, Sarah isn't that good......................this season proved that she is mediocre. Tori is the strongest girl there, other than Emily.
Laurel is a DISTANT third. She'd lose to either 2 and i know a few more tht would smoke ker[/QUOTE]
Sarah is a very good competitor and many people who have actually done challenges with her would agree. Sarah is a very good competitor and usually carries her weight. If Sarah was thrown into a gulag she would have most likely won. However, Sarah wasn't given that opportunity because many didn't vote Sarah in. That's not her fault. Sarah has character, heart, will, drive, motivation, strength, courage, and most important she is a wonderful human being.
Is Sarah perfect? no
Did she have some not so great moments this challenge? yes
[QUOTE=Darock1713;225828]
Tori did nothing last challenge, but when the pressure is on, Tori responds. She smoked Tina in 3 minutes in her gulag. I do not like Tori, but [B]Laurel will NEVER beat her one on one[/B], for all her talk, she is at the top tier of the middle of the road players in challenge history.[/QUOTE]
Remember when you said something to the effect of Tyler could never beat Derrick? Remember how well that worked out for you?
I'd choose words like NEVER wisely. You're making a very bold statement.
[QUOTE=trees12;225830]Sarah is a very good competitor and many people who have actually done challenges with her would agree. Sarah is a very good competitor and usually carries her weight. If Sarah was thrown into a gulag she would have most likely won. However, Sarah wasn't given that opportunity because many didn't vote Sarah in. That's not her fault. Sarah has character, heart, will, drive, motivation, strength, courage, and most important she is a wonderful human being.
Is Sarah perfect? no
[B]Did she have some not so great moments this challenge?[/B] yes[/QUOTE]
Which were?
[QUOTE=trees12;225830]Sarah is a very good competitor and many people who have actually done challenges with her would agree. Sarah is a very good competitor and usually carries her weight. If Sarah was thrown into a gulag she would have most likely won. However, Sarah wasn't given that opportunity because many didn't vote Sarah in. That's not her fault. Sarah has character, heart, will, drive, motivation, strength, courage, and most important she is a wonderful human being.
Is Sarah perfect? no
Did she have some not so great moments this challenge? yes[/QUOTE]
Trees, I'm really confused. Maybe you can help clear this up for me. Is Sarah a wonderful human being?
Maybe you can clear this up too. Are you a guy or a girl?
[QUOTE=RMD1;225833]Which were?[/QUOTE]
The final is what I'm mainly referring to. Throughout the challenge she been pretty good.
This is the spoilers thread so I can say it: She doesn't do so great on the final. However, Sara's my girl and I know she is better than that and was capable of doing better. She'll come back and kick butt. Sarah is awesome!
[QUOTE=JL81790;225818]Amen. I think Laurel is far and away the strongest girl with Emily as a distant second. .[/QUOTE]
Yeah maybe considering she carries Abe on her back in the final and given she could hang with Kenny on FM2. But strength can only count for so much...She's an ugly person, a bully and a major WITCH!
[QUOTE=molds13;225837]Trees, I'm really confused. Maybe you can help clear this up for me. Is Sarah a wonderful human being?
Maybe you can clear this up too. Are you a guy or a girl?[/QUOTE]
First question: Yes
Second Question: Girl
[QUOTE=trees12;225845]First question: Yes
Second Question: Girl[/QUOTE]
You're a girl and you told cystic you were a girl for VR, even though your email address is clearly that of a male's? And the email address corresponds to a Facebook account with a male's name?
I don't buy it. And since I don't buy that...I don't buy anything else you say either. Sorry.
Does a wonderful human being sleep with two members of the opposite team, and then talk about how one of them bashes her all the time? Just wondering because all of the wonderful human beings I know don't get double teamed.
[QUOTE=molds13;225848]You're a girl and you told cystic you were a girl for VR, even though your email address is clearly that of a male's? And the email address corresponds to a Facebook account with a male's name?
I don't buy it. And since I don't buy that...I don't buy anything else you say either. Sorry.
Does a wonderful human being sleep with two members of the opposite team, and then talk about how one of them bashes her all the time? Just wondering because all of the wonderful human beings I know don't get double teamed.[/QUOTE]
Me and my brother share the same email account. I never told cystic what gender I was.
[QUOTE=trees12;225851]Me and my brother share the same email account. I never told cystic what gender I was.[/QUOTE]
I have never known anyone to share an email address with anyone, let alone their brother. Email is free - you don't need to share.
And you missed my question about the double teaming. Or was that convenient?
[QUOTE=molds13;225832]Remember when you said something to the effect of Tyler could never beat Derrick? Remember how well that worked out for you?
I'd choose words like NEVER wisely. You're making a very bold statement.[/QUOTE]
And I'm sure you will do your part to remind me. That's fair because I'll eat the Tyler comments...he came out of no where this challenge.
Laurel, I am unconvinced that she is so great. Tori depending on her mood, can be one of the most fierce competitors ever; even Evelyn has acknowledged that on occasion.
Laurel's attitude will be her demise because she focuses on the wrong things...which would kill her in an elimination or a final.
[QUOTE=trees12;225842]The final is what I'm mainly referring to. Throughout the challenge she been pretty good.
This is the spoilers thread so I can say it: She doesn't do so great on the final. However, Sara's my girl and I know she is better than that and was capable of doing better. She'll come back and kick butt. Sarah is awesome![/QUOTE]
[strike]well, she should at least give cara maria credit then, and quit being so judgemental of her.
in addition, i wonder why everyone credits laurel for being so competitive to justify her attitue, but why didn't she lash out at sarah for not finishing.
abram was forced to stop, not sarah[/strike]
Well, she should at least give Cara Maria credit then, and quit being so judgmental of her.
In addition, I wonder why everyone credits Laurel for being so competitive to justify her attitude, but why didn't she lash out at Sarah for not finishing?
Abram was forced to stop, not Sarah.
[QUOTE=trees12;225830][B]Sarah is a very good competitor [/B]and many people whohave actually done challenges with her would agree. [B]Sarah is a very good [/B][B]competitor[/B] and usually carries her weight. If Sarah was thrown into a gulag she would have most likely won. However, Sarah wasn't given that opportunity because many didn't vote Sarah in. That's not her fault. Sarah has character, heart, will, drive, motivation, strength, courage, and most important[B] she [/B][B]is a wonderful human being.[/B]
Is Sarah perfect? no
Did she have some not so great moments this challenge? yes[/QUOTE]
I'm happy you told us all that 178900865432906 times, thanks !!
[QUOTE=molds13;225853]I have never known anyone to share an email address with anyone, let alone their brother. Email is free - you don't need to share.
And you missed my question about the double teaming. Or was that convenient?[/QUOTE]
Yes email is absolutely free from yahoo, google, and many other companies. The fact that I chose to share the email account maybe odd to some, but its not impposible and its not against the law.
[QUOTE=molds13;225853]I have never known anyone to share an email address with anyone, let alone their brother. Email is free - you don't need to share.
And you missed my question about the double teaming. Or was that convenient?[/QUOTE]
I know you aren't fond of Sarah, but trying to discredit me with thing you think, believe, or notice like email account used etc is ridiculous. Its my be odd to share email, but it is NOT against the law.
You don't have to believe anything I say. I didn't come here hoping everyone bows to me in hopes of believing me. I didn't come and join this site to prove to you or anyone who I am or who I know. I joined this site to give my input when needed. Whether you agree, believe, or join in is on you. It dosen't bother me. I've never disrespected you Molds or question your gender or anything personal. I respect V1man the most around here.
What about double teaming?
[QUOTE=trees12;225874]Are you asking if Sarah did double teaming? I need you to be MORE specific.[/QUOTE]
Haha, forget it. Clearly I'm going over your head here.
[QUOTE=molds13;225879]Haha, forget it. Clearly I'm going over your head here.[/QUOTE]
I reread that post and I think I know what you're getting at. Sarah did those things, but that doesn't make her a **** or a bad person. Also she wasn't in a relationship at the time, so she could and should be able to do so if she wants. Sarah is one of the nicest people you will ever meet. Again is she perfect: NO. Does she plot things sometimes like she did with Laurel: Yes. However, Sarah is NOT a bad person. However, Sarah will never be able to please you in any way shape or form because you have something against her.
[QUOTE=trees12;225884]I reread that post and I think I know what you're getting at. Sarah did those things, but that dosen't make her a **** or a bad person. Also [B]she wasn't in a relationship at the time[/B], so she could and should be able to do so if she wants. Sarah is one of the nicest people you will ever meet. Again is she perfect, NO. Does she plott things sometimes like she did with Laurel Yes. However, Sarah is NOT a bad person. However, Sarah will never be able to please you in any way shape or form because you have something against her.[/QUOTE]
She wasn't in a relationship when she left for the Ruins? Because I specifically remember her boyfriend at the time posting here.
I have nothing against Sarah because I don't know her personally. But you constantly painting her as a wonderful person and being completely up her *** is annoying and overplayed which is kind of making me (and probably others) start to not like her. She has an account here. If she wants to come and defend herself, she can. She doesn't need you to do it for her. And she doesn't need to "please me" at all.
[QUOTE=molds13;225886]She wasn't in a relationship when she left for the Ruins? Because I specifically remember her boyfriend at the time posting here.
I have nothing against Sarah because I don't know her personally. But you constantly painting her as a wonderful person and being completely up her *** is annoying and overplayed which is kind of making me (and probably others) start to not like her. She has an account here. If she wants to come and defend herself, she can. She doesn't need you to do it for her. And she doesn't need to "please me" at all.[/QUOTE]
I'm not talking about on the ruins or when she left for the ruins. I'm talking about after when they had broken up. In regards to me sticking up for Sarah its just hard to see these extremely negative posts against her. I'm just speaking my mind just as they're.
[QUOTE]But I agree with you that it really aggrivates me that Brad played the game like he did. I understand he wants to win, but there have been others who were going for their first challenge win and actually worked hard to earn it, like Derrick for example.[/QUOTE]If I understand your post correctly, you're saying Derrick worked harder and played a more stand-up game, and therefore earned his place more so than Brad. I completely disagree, and I tend to root for Derrick more so than Brad in Challenges.
Derrick only "worked harder" because he had to. His team and alliance were decimated, and his plan/strategy with Johnny ruined, so he had no choice but to revert to scrappy Derrick. In the Ruins, he purposely stayed out of an elimination round because he had enough cushion to keep him out. And he was doing the same here, up until he and Johnny were forced into it. And good for him for that being his strategy. It just didn't work out this time.
Also, unless I missed it, I didn't hear anyone on Red discuss throwing Challenges, unlike Blue, including Derrick. So in my book, Derrick played no cleaner a game and was no morally better than Brad. He's as much a hypocrite if he's going around pointing fingers, although I hope he's not.
Very interesting Confessional aftershow video up on mtv. And we see a sneak peak of Abram's demise in the final challenge!!! Wouldn't have pegged Abe or Sarah as failing in the final..
[QUOTE=kw713;225897]Very interesting Confessional aftershow video up on mtv. And we see a sneak peak of Abram's demise in the final challenge!!! Wouldn't have pegged Abe or Sarah as failing in the final..[/QUOTE]
That is interesting, seeing the self-serving bias from the Abe-Cara party vs the Laurel-Sarah party. Turns out one member from each party cost them the finals. So none of them win the argument there. :D
[QUOTE=trees12;225889]I'm not talking about on the ruins or when she left for the ruins. I'm talking about after when they had broken up. In regards to me sticking up for Sarah its just hard to see these extremely negative posts against her. I'm just speaking my mind just as they're.[/QUOTE]
So you know Sarah personally? Cool.
[QUOTE=tjhallow;225907]So you know Sarah personally? Cool.[/QUOTE]
We've briefly discussed that topic via PM a while back. I'm just really upset that everyone else who wants to put down Sarah for whatever reason can. But when I continually stick up for her its wrong.
[QUOTE=trees12;225908]We've briefly discussed that topic via PM a while back. I'm just really upset that everyone else who wants to put down Sarah for whatever reason can. But when I continually stick up for her its wrong.[/QUOTE]
Oh **** we did, didn't we? Its not wrong that you stick up for her, but you don't have to be captain save-a-sarah everytime. Trust me, I used to do with Evan and I gave up. Everyone is going to think what they want, and everyone is titled to their own opinion. We all know you love Sarah.
[QUOTE=tjhallow;225912]Oh **** we did, didn't we? Its not wrong that you stick up for her, but you don't have to be captain save-a-sarah everytime. Trust me, I used to do with Evan and I gave up. Everyone is going to think what they want, and everyone is titled to their own opinion. We all know you love Sarah.[/QUOTE]
I'm going to try and see if I can do that. Although I can't promise I can keep from the save Sarah moments. However, if I calm down on it I will still jump in when necessary. Anyways lets move on to a new topic. How did you like this past episode? I was so proud of Tyler he did awesome. I thought it was totally rude of Johnny to insult Tyler because he was upset about losing and that tyler did way better than him.
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