[QUOTE=ILove$;145764]Oh, right. 51 Minds don't seem to be that scared since they still are going to show Entertainer's show, confirmed Rock of Love 4, New York confirmed I Love NY 3, Megan is getting a new show and Daisy of Love 2. I heard casting starts in Jan for DOL2.
[B]But... I think what VH1 is trying to do is slow down on the 51 Minds shows. [/B]They sued to have like 3-4 airing at the same time, but now they are only having 1 or 2 per week. I think 51 Minds are going to continue but I just think they are going to slow down. Poprah from IWTWFD2 said she had a meeting with 51 Minds about something that can change her life. I guess she may be getting her own show too. I still think ILM4 will air if they plan on airing Entertainers show. [/QUOTE]
That is correct. After this ordeal, I don't think that VH1 wants anything to do with 51 Minds. I think in the future 51 Minds will be shopping elsewhere to get their shows on the air.
[QUOTE]But when you are saying they will be sued. By who though? The cast mates don't plan on that, Weasel said that's what his lawyer was for and he lost the battle. 51 Minds won that and Weasel may have actually won ILM3 since he was the only one from the show who got involved with a lawyer. He definitely got to the final 2. So he either came 2nd or won.[/QUOTE]
I would imagine that Megan is suing. She, out of all people, would be stupid not to.
[QUOTE=molds13;145765]That is correct. After this ordeal, I don't think that VH1 wants anything to do with 51 Minds. I think in the future 51 Minds will be shopping elsewhere to get their shows on the air.
I would imagine that Megan is suing. She, out of all people, would be stupid not to.[/QUOTE]
I asked Megan, and she said she wouldn't do that because the show actually was love for her. She said they offered her a new show anyway so she is ok with it. She said she wouldn't have even watched it if they kept airing it after he died because it would have been too disturbing for her. I don't think anyone really is suing but I agree it is a risky move to keep blowing out 51 Mind shows. So they should keep at the pace they are at for a while and keep releasing shows a bit slowly and later next year if they are still producing good shows for VH1 they should come back full force. But 51 Minds said they did everything they could to end the horror instantly so they canceled MWAM and ILM3 to get rid of it straight away and they said they have moved on now.
OK, you know what? [B]ILove$[/B], [B]Aquatta[/B], you're REALLY toeing the line. I'm giving you a fair warning before I ban you both. You are entitled to your opinions, whether ill-informed or not, but you must respect other members here, especially the moderators. I just read two pages worth of disrespect and downright rudeness. I have half a mind to close this whole **** thread. Now everyone, PLAY NICE. We obviously have two opposing sides here, but you guys coming at molds just because you don't like what she has to say, is not fair. If you can present valid points, great. If not, don't go mouthing off at people that don't agree with you. That's it. THE END. Why don't you just take a break? Until an announcement is made by the network anything anyone says here is moot, anyway. GOOD NIGHT.
My post got deleted for some reason. But all I said in it was it was just a disagreement and not an argument. Molds and I just disagreed but if you read the posts from this page we got onto the same terms because we both understood where we both came from. But yeah let's wait until something is confirmed but I don't think its fair to always ban people and give them warnings if they disagree with the mods.
When weslacoeast9 said that these casts were legit the moderators all backed them up and flat out told people "You may like the cast list or Not...... weslacoeast9.....Is verified 100%....the list he provided was accurate. There will be no talking about any members in the forums." and "I believe that I posted...that weslacoeast9, does know 100% who is on the cast. If you chose not to believe it that is fine, but his information is solid."
And then the casts were wrong.
I have yet to read much from molds besides "You don't understand, my friend knows the law, he's right, wait and see that you are wrong, they'll all sue" when if they had wanted to sue, they would have by now. The only reason someone from ILM4 would sue would be if they DIDN'T air it, and ILM3 and MWAM people have had more than enough time if they wanted to sue. I think that after Weasel tried and failed, the rest of the casts figured it wasn't in their best interests.
If 51 Minds were so worried about assets, why would For the Love of Ray J 2 and Frank the Entertainer's show have both been aired? They made casting announcements, but they didn't have to air them since they obviously FILMED I Love Money 3 and that never aired. Also, if assets were a problem, they never formally announced I Love Money 3 until after the murder. Many TV shows are filmed and never see the light of day, I don't see how they could sue for a show that didn't air.
As far as editing out MWAM and ILM3 references goes, even if they did that, they have almost a full month of multiple cameras shooting 24/7. To get that all down into about 15 one-hour episodes is extremely easy. Also, Brittaney Star (Rock of Love Bus) and Blonde Baller (Real Chance of Love 2) among others have stated that VH1 can easily edit what they say, how they say it, and who they say it to. I think her quote was "They can record you saying 'I really don't like them!' and make you say 'I really like them!'" If they do it for drama, they would definitely do it to cover themselves.
I may not be understanding exactly what laws prevent VH1 from doing this and that and what laws make it wise to sue, if I am not, please point them out to me.
[QUOTE=Spencer N;145781]When weslacoeast9 said that these casts were legit the moderators all backed them up and flat out told people "You may like the cast list or Not...... weslacoeast9.....Is verified 100%....the list he provided was accurate. There will be no talking about any members in the forums." and "I believe that I posted...that weslacoeast9, does know 100% who is on the cast. If you chose not to believe it that is fine, but his information is solid."
And then the casts were wrong.
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And you'll notice that he is no longer a member here for that reason, among other transgressions.
I do not believe that 51 Minds is the legal owner of Frank's show, therefore not making it an asset.
With that being said, I'll talk to you guys about this in a few weeks.
[QUOTE=molds13;145759]They don't, but their lawyers do.
Except the fact that they did the casting process, and put someone with a past criminal record (which is not supposed to be allowed) on their show, personally endangering each of the contestants. 51 Minds was clearly in the wrong when it came to casting Ryan Jenkins. It doesn't matter how powerful a legal team is, if they are wrong, they are wrong. They even admitted to it. You cannot win if you admit you are wrong.
In short, no. They are not. At all.[/QUOTE]
Like someone else said, I doubt any of these people just have a lawyer laying around and how many are gonna waste the time and money trying to sue a powerhouse company?? It's not gonna happen, no matter how much 51 Minds admits they are wrong.
thank you to the guys who are defending ILM4 airing, it will air hopefully and i cant wait to watch it. youll prove, those who disbelieve it will air, them wrong.
[QUOTE=kyled13;146366]thank you to the guys who are defending ILM4 airing, it will air hopefully and i cant wait to watch it. youll prove, those who disbelieve it will air, them wrong.[/QUOTE]
I think EVERYONE here is wrong it WILL air but in March I think VH1 is going to limit 51 Minds shows we only have 1 51 Minds shows now FTLORJ2 and then we will only have one the Frank show I think it WILL air but after the Frank show
AHHH! I just want it to air thats all and soon! I dont care if someone from the third season murdered his wife I just want a new season of I love money I dont care if someone is trying to sue VH1/51 Minds for something that happened in March Just Air it!
[QUOTE=ILove$;146458]Ok, to end it all! Punisher, spoke to VH1 today and they still told him mid to late jan! He said his source is solid.[/QUOTE]
:D Yay!
I feeel that ILM 4 should be dropped and the should redo ILM 3 only because it doesn't feel right to go from two to three and I feel that there would be many more viewers if they waited
[QUOTE=rey2pokey;147172]I feeel that ILM 4 should be dropped and the should redo ILM 3 only because it doesn't feel right to go from two to three and I feel that there would be many more viewers if they waited[/QUOTE]
I think ILM4 is going to get huge numbers. Once its officially announced I think it will be posted lots of places and media will talk about it, how they are not airing Ryan Jenkin's ILM and just skipped it to 4.
Ray J 2 skipped an episode today, so that's going to push ILM4 back one week. The final for Ray J 2 is either on Jan 18th or 25th. If it's 25th, then Weasel was right about ILM4 airing in Feb.
And Laneahh77, VH1 shows get 21-25 days of pre-show marketing. Just like Entertainer's, if ILM4 is airing January 25th then the cast will be revealed January 4th. If it's airing February 1st, it'll be revealed January 11th. It's just like Entertainer's show and Real Chance of Love casts, 21-25 days before airing.
[QUOTE=ILove$;147178]I think ILM4 is going to get huge numbers. Once its officially announced I think it will be posted lots of places and media will talk about it, how they are not airing Ryan Jenkin's ILM and just skipped it to 4.
Ray J 2 skipped an episode today, so that's going to push ILM4 back one week. The final for Ray J 2 is either on Jan 18th or 25th. If it's 25th, then Weasel was right about ILM4 airing in Feb.
And Laneahh77, VH1 shows get 21-25 days of pre-show marketing. Just like Entertainer's, if ILM4 is airing January 25th then the cast will be revealed January 4th. If it's airing February 1st, it'll be revealed January 11th. It's just like Entertainer's show and Real Chance of Love casts, 21-25 days before airing.[/QUOTE]
But Isn't every I love Money release the cast 2 months before the premiere?
[QUOTE=Laneahh77;147180]But Isn't every I love Money release the cast 2 months before the premiere?[/QUOTE]
It's changed this time. There were only 2 ILM's which had cast reveals so far so we can't really base it on 2 months. I'm basing it the way RCOL, ROLB, DOL and Entertainer in a basement affair had their casts revealed. 21-25 days before premiere.
[QUOTE=ILove$;145731]LOL! Don't worry, it will air. There is still an open slot for the most important hour of VH1 shows, Monday at 9pm. That is meant to be their biggest timeslot. They put their best shows on that timeslot. So it must be ILM4, just wait and see everyone. Molds sources are either fake or false because I got it from the horses mouth itself. Sources don't match up to the real thing. Why would they go through a 2 month editing process then cancel it, it will air. They even set the premiere date and everything, he even said the supertrailer is done. They have everything ready.[/QUOTE]
I was hoping I was wrong about this post. If you guys have caught reruns of FTLORJ they are advertising upcoming Vh1 shows that start Monday January 11th and at the 9pm timeslot there will be two new shows one I dont remember but the other 30 minute show is Sandy Peppa Denton's new show. So ILM4 will not be taking FTLORJ's spot. I am now convinced this will not air.:weep:
What a blow for 51 Minds. I think they need a really bad shot that ILM wouldve provided. Their show's have not been that great as of late.
Have you seen their shows they've gone to ****, and thats what I Love Money is made of now so it will be **** also. I won't be sad at all if it doesn't air.
[QUOTE=Bolt8;147195]Have you seen their shows they've gone to ****, and thats what I Love Money is made of now so it will be **** also. I won't be sad at all if it doesn't air.[/QUOTE]
Yea they have pretty much gone to ****. ILM3 was without a doubt epic with all of the rumours going on about it. ILM4 I dont know there really aren't many rumours going on about that season. Either way I dont think it will air.
[QUOTE=Aquatta;147184]I was hoping I was wrong about this post. If you guys have caught reruns of FTLORJ they are advertising upcoming Vh1 shows that start Monday January 11th and at the 9pm timeslot there will be two new shows one I dont remember but the other 30 minute show is Sandy Peppa Denton's new show. So ILM4 will not be taking FTLORJ's spot. I am now convinced this will not air.:weep:
What a blow for 51 Minds. I think they need a really bad shot that ILM wouldve provided. Their show's have not been that great as of late.[/QUOTE]
Lol relax, ILM4 is airing at 9. Look:
Lets Talk About Pep (premiering Jan. 11 at 10:30/9:30c)
Fantasia For Real (Monday, January 11, 2010 at 10:00/9:00c)
ILM4 will be airing 9/8c where Ray J airs.
[QUOTE=ILove$;147284]Lol relax, ILM4 is airing at 9. Look:
Lets Talk About Pep (premiering Jan. 11 at 10:30/9:30c)
Fantasia For Real (Monday, January 11, 2010 at 10:00/9:00c)
ILM4 will be airing 9/8c where Ray J airs.[/QUOTE]
Maybe I'm missing it, but where does it say "I Love Money 4 (premiering Jan xx at 9:00/8:00c)?
[QUOTE=molds13;147285]Maybe I'm missing it, but where does it say "I Love Money 4 (premiering Jan xx at 9:00/8:00c)?[/QUOTE]
Because thats the Ray J timeslot where Punisher and Hot Wings said it will be replacing. All other shows have a replacement except Ray J 2, so no one should say it's not airing yet until we see another show replace Ray J 2. It's one of their PRIME spots, so they need to put something good in it obviously.
Someone from bourgy called 51 minds:
"So i just called Vh1 regarding the premiere date of ILM4, and got transferred to about 10 different people. Finally the last guy said “Hold on let me check to see if the press release has even been released to the public yet”
and then I was on hold for about 10 minutes, and he came back and said “Because the press release hasn’t been released yet, I can’t give any information regarding the premiere date”"
The guy was saying he can't release the date yet until the press release is up. It sounds like there is a press release to me since he's saying it needs to be out to the public first.
[QUOTE=ILove$;147286]Because thats the Ray J timeslot where Punisher and Hot Wings said it will be replacing. All other shows have a replacement except Ray J 2, so no one should say it's not airing yet until we see another show replace Ray J 2. It's one of their PRIME spots, so they need to put something good in it obviously.
Someone from bourgy called 51 minds:
"So i just called Vh1 regarding the premiere date of ILM4, and got transferred to about 10 different people. Finally the last guy said “Hold on let me check to see if the press release has even been released to the public yet”
and then I was on hold for about 10 minutes, and he came back and said “Because the press release hasn’t been released yet, I can’t give any information regarding the premiere date”"
The guy was saying he can't release the date yet until the press release is up. It sounds like there is a press release to me since he's saying it needs to be out to the public first.[/QUOTE]
How about instead of all us wondering and asking cast members let's call 51 whats the number?
[QUOTE=Laneahh77;147287]How about instead of all us wondering and asking cast members let's call 51 whats the number?[/QUOTE]
Ok, I'll give it to you. For those of you who don't think its airing ask "Will there be an I Love Money 4?"
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