I Love Money 4: Cast

[QUOTE=Aquatta;145139]Lawsuits for what? For airing other men from MWAM on their shows? ILM3 I understand because Ryan was on the cast, but I dont think Ryan was on ILM4 unless you know something I dont?[/QUOTE] Lawsuits from people on MWAM and ILM3 for endangering their personal health by putting a person with a prior criminal record that was not background checked like everyone else on the show. 51 Minds is screwed. Big time. The cast release for ILM4 is the last thing on their mind.

[QUOTE=molds13;145149]Lawsuits from people on MWAM and ILM3 for endangering their personal health by putting a person with a prior criminal record that was not background checked like everyone else on the show. 51 Minds is screwed. Big time. The cast release for ILM4 is the last thing on their mind.[/QUOTE] Well they seem to have moved on with RCOL2 and The Entertainer's show, so why would ILM4 be any different than those shows?

[QUOTE=Aquatta;145196]Well they seem to have moved on with RCOL2 and The Entertainer's show, so why would ILM4 be any different than those shows?[/QUOTE] Because no one tried to kill anyone on those shows. Plus, Frank's show is a new series.

I LOVE MONEY 4 [B]WILL[/B] [B]AIR!! Many cast members confirmed it, Craig Jackson confirmed, even when I called 51 minds and vh1 they said, ILM4 is on its way! and i called about 2 weeks ago[/B]

[QUOTE=lwcoolj129;145209]I LOVE MONEY 4 [B]WILL[/B] [B]AIR!! Many cast members confirmed it, Craig Jackson confirmed, even when I called 51 minds and vh1 they said, ILM4 is on its way! and i called about 2 weeks ago[/B][/QUOTE] OK pal.

[QUOTE=lwcoolj129;145209]I LOVE MONEY 4 [B]WILL[/B] [B]AIR!! Many cast members confirmed it, Craig Jackson confirmed, even when I called 51 minds and vh1 they said, ILM4 is on its way! and i called about 2 weeks ago[/B][/QUOTE] How do you like your crow?

I dont see why people are so adement about this not airing, its almost as if you dont want it to air. I dont see there really being a problem with airing ILM4, Ryan was on ILM3 and you would think that 51 minds would be doing the MWAM guys a favor by putting them back on tv with this ILM4 show. The only problem I see is how to make the new ILM say 4 without confusing people. I dont see why ILM4 wouldnt air, isnt it the biggest money maker show?

[QUOTE=molds13;145208]Because no one tried to kill anyone on those shows. Plus, Frank's show is a new series.[/QUOTE] No one tried to kill anyone on ILM4, I think. Unless Ryan was on that cast as well?

[QUOTE=molds13;145216]OK pal.[/QUOTE] You just love to be passive, don't you? ILM4 will air, just wait and see. I don't get why you guys are so determined to it not airing. It will, why else would the cast say so, let alone 51 minds. Don't believe me? Ring them for yourself then. Its in January, nothing is replacing Ray J 2 yet, so obviously it's ILM4.

[QUOTE=molds13;145208]Because no one tried to kill anyone on those shows. Plus, Frank's show is a new series.[/QUOTE] I am trying to understand what you are trying to say here. True, Frank's show is a new show so obviously 51 Minds is still producing shows. Like I said before they did RCOL2, FTLORJ2, and now FTEIABA since Ryan murdered his wife. ROL4 has been confirmed as well. So why would ILM4 be any different? From what I believe Ryan wasn't on ILM4 and he didnt try to kill anyone on that season. So what gives? If they aren't worried about explaining the MWAM guys then why else would they not air this season? I am not arguing with you, I also believe ILM4 wont air, sadly. I am just trying to understand why you think it wont?

[QUOTE=Aquatta;145339]I am trying to understand what you are trying to say here. True, Frank's show is a new show so obviously 51 Minds is still producing shows. Like I said before they did RCOL2, FTLORJ2, and now FTEIABA since Ryan murdered his wife. ROL4 has been confirmed as well. So why would ILM4 be any different? From what I believe Ryan wasn't on ILM4 and he didnt try to kill anyone on that season. So what gives? If they aren't worried about explaining the MWAM guys then why else would they not air this season?[/QUOTE] I have no idea what the shortenings are (I don't watch VH1, obviously) but all three of those shows do not involve anyone from MWAM or ILM3. Neither, I'm assuming, would ROL4. That is what makes it different. [QUOTE]I am not arguing with you, I also believe ILM4 wont air, sadly. I am just trying to understand why you think it wont?[/QUOTE] I understand you aren't arguing, it is a very difficult situation to understand. I barely understand it myself. But I do understand that the last people to hear about this not airing will be the people who are so positive it's going to be airing...the cast members.

Even if ILM4 doesnt air because of the MWAM guys, you would think that 51 minds would be trying to hurry up and get a new ILM in progress without MWAM guys, I mean ILM is one of, if not the, best show they have, its a money maker and you would think they wouldnt want to keep it on hiatus.

[QUOTE=TSPKM;145419]Even if ILM4 doesnt air because of the MWAM guys, you would think that 51 minds would be trying to hurry up and get a new ILM in progress without MWAM guys, I mean ILM is one of, if not the, best show they have, its a money maker and you would think they wouldnt want to keep it on hiatus.[/QUOTE] Exactly, which is just another sign it won't happen.

[QUOTE=ILove$;145321]You just love to be passive, don't you? ILM4 will air, just wait and see. I don't get why you guys are so determined to it not airing. It will, why else would the cast say so, let alone 51 minds. Don't believe me? Ring them for yourself then. Its in January, nothing is replacing Ray J 2 yet, so obviously it's ILM4.[/QUOTE] I do really love to be passive. I'm really good at it. Especially when I'm right. ILM4 will not air...just wait and see. If you guys would like to make bets, I can set up a PayPal account for you to deposit money into.

[QUOTE=molds13;145378]I have no idea what the shortenings are (I don't watch VH1, obviously) but all three of those shows do not involve anyone from MWAM or ILM3. Neither, I'm assuming, would ROL4. That is what makes it different. I understand you aren't arguing, it is a very difficult situation to understand. I barely understand it myself. But I do understand that the last people to hear about this not airing will be the people who are so positive it's going to be airing...the cast members.[/QUOTE] Ok, thanks for explaining. I understand a little better now. So basically if it wasnt for the MWAM guys being on ILM4, the show would have a better chance at airing. Since those men are on ILM and they were also on a show with Ryan in the past they could be a liability to the show and try to sue for some reason. 51 Minds not having another ILM taping right now says a lot. Can you imagine what kind of a setback it was to film back to back seasons only to not have either one of them air? I am sure they lost plenty of money by doing this. Maybe it is just easier for them just to forget about all this and continue their "Of Love" shows instead. What bad timing, I mean they took a break in filming between ILM's 1 & 2 and they were such big hits they decided to capitalize and film Seasons 3 & 4 back to back only to have it backfire in their faces when Ryan killed his wife. What a mess this all has turned out to be.

[QUOTE=Aquatta;145528]Ok, thanks for explaining. I understand a little better now. So basically if it wasnt for the MWAM guys being on ILM4, the show would have a better chance at airing. Since those men are on ILM and they were also on a show with Ryan in the past they could be a liability to the show and try to sue for some reason. [/QUOTE] Not necessarily. Here's the way I see it... Anyone that appeared on MWAM, ILM3, and ILM4 can and should sue 51 Minds. They can and would sue the company for [B]all that they are worth[/B]. That's what? 20+ shows? If aired, ILM4 would be considered an asset to their company, therefore making it available to be part of "all they are worth". If not aired, it isn't considered an asset and cannot be part of "all they are worth". When you sue someone, they want to limit what you can sue them for. I have never seen the show, but I assume that past references are made to past contestants, winners, etc etc. Those HAVE to go away. After all is said and done, do you really think that they could put together a show without any reference to ILM3 without making it seem like an extremely poorly thrown together reality show? Do you (and this is a group "you") think anyone would be willing to insure future versions of this show? Some of you may be wondering why all of the cast members are all "this is DEFINITELY airing!" They think it's going to air because someone is telling them it's going to air. So when the announcement does come, don't be mad at them. Be mad at their puppet masters. So please, for those of you who are so intent on this airing, please give me an intelligent, logical, legal argument as to why this show will air. "'So and so with a stupid name said it will air'" is not a logical argument.

I :heart: molds.

I could careless if it airs cause the supposed cast is so dreadful, but just for Mold I hope it does.

It will air. For the last time, It WILL. Why dont you call 51 Minds for yourself and ask them all the questions? The host even told me its coming in January replacing Ray J 2. What other show is replacing Ray J 2? NOTHING. Obviously it's ILM4 if everyone is saying it'll air in January! I asked about ILM3 the other time and he said his lawyer failed in all costs at getting ILM3 to air and 51 Minds have already almost come to the completion of the new season which is another strike against ILM3 airing. That was his LAWYER. They can't lie to his lawyer. It will air. I'm not trying to have this as an argument, its just a discussion and a disagreement. I had my doubts, but after hearing it from 51 Minds myself I believe it will air. But hey, I think we should all stop specualting and just wait. The cast should be out December 21st or December 28. Cashmere said she was asking 51 Minds about the ILM re-tape of season 3 as a new season and she said that they told her they are focusing on ILM4 for now. But I'm going to wait and see that if the cast Isn't revealed by the end of December then I'll believe it. But I am sure it will air at some point.

I agree we should stop the speculation and just wait. God I hope this show airs though. I've heard both arguments and several people make some very good points. I just want it to air damnit! I love this show, probably the best reality show on tv right now. Especially with the declining quality of the "Of Love" shows recently with Daisy & Ray J stinking it up.

[QUOTE=ILove$;145588]It will air. For the last time, It WILL. Why dont you call 51 Minds for yourself and ask them all the questions? The host even told me its coming in January replacing Ray J 2. What other show is replacing Ray J 2? NOTHING. Obviously it's ILM4 if everyone is saying it'll air in January! I asked about ILM3 the other time and he said his lawyer failed in all costs at getting ILM3 to air and 51 Minds have already almost come to the completion of the new season which is another strike against ILM3 airing. That was his LAWYER. [B]They can't lie to his lawyer.[/B] It will air. I'm not trying to have this as an argument, its just a discussion and a disagreement. I had my doubts, but after hearing it from 51 Minds myself I believe it will air. But hey, I think we should all stop specualting and just wait. The cast should be out December 21st or December 28. Cashmere said she was asking 51 Minds about the ILM re-tape of season 3 as a new season and she said that they told her they are focusing on ILM4 for now. But I'm going to wait and see that if the cast Isn't revealed by the end of December then I'll believe it. But I am sure it will air at some point.[/QUOTE] Oh yes they can. They have been lien to the cast members the whole time.

[QUOTE=ILove$;145588]It will air. For the last time, It WILL. Why dont you call 51 Minds for yourself and ask them all the questions? The host even told me its coming in January replacing Ray J 2. What other show is replacing Ray J 2? NOTHING. Obviously it's ILM4 if everyone is saying it'll air in January! I asked about ILM3 the other time and he said his lawyer failed in all costs at getting ILM3 to air and 51 Minds have already almost come to the completion of the new season which is another strike against ILM3 airing. That was his LAWYER. They can't lie to his lawyer. It will air. I'm not trying to have this as an argument, its just a discussion and a disagreement. I had my doubts, but after hearing it from 51 Minds myself I believe it will air. But hey, I think we should all stop specualting and just wait. The cast should be out December 21st or December 28. Cashmere said she was asking 51 Minds about the ILM re-tape of season 3 as a new season and she said that they told her they are focusing on ILM4 for now. But I'm going to wait and see that if the cast Isn't revealed by the end of December then I'll believe it. But I am sure it will air at some point.[/QUOTE] I hope your right

[QUOTE=ILove$;145588]It will air. For the last time, It WILL. Why dont you call 51 Minds for yourself and ask them all the questions?[/QUOTE] Why would I call 51 Minds for myself when I could have a lawyer explaining the legal aspects to me? Just face it. It won't air. I tried explaining it to you guys, but obviously you don't want to listen. Everyone is just posturing until the time comes to make the announcement...

Are we still talking about ILM3? Because I dont understand how their could be legal aspects with ILM4. I mean you say the MWAM guys are filing law suits for them not doing a background check, but wouldnt they want to be on tv for this obviously they signed up for it and want to be on tv. And at that they are running other of Love shows, so what would be the difference in running an ILM show without Ryan? It doesnt make sense legally either, and lawyers arent always right either.

[QUOTE=TSPKM;145677]Are we still talking about ILM3? Because I dont understand how their could be legal aspects with ILM4. I mean you say the MWAM guys are filing law suits for them not doing a background check, but wouldnt they want to be on tv for this obviously they signed up for it and want to be on tv. And at that they are running other of Love shows, so what would be the difference in running an ILM show without Ryan? [B]It doesnt make sense legally either, and lawyers arent always right either.[/B][/QUOTE] You obviously must not be familiar with the law. Or reading past posts.

Hmm I have to agree with you on some points molds. But I say we should wait, I asked Punisher again and heres what he said: "Dude, if it doesn't air i'll be shocked. I was told by the strongest source possible that it was fully completed(as far as editing). It came out great, and it will air approx 3rd week of Jan. That was told to me mid Nov. If theres been some internal changes......I don't know, but vh1 usually gives 21-25 days of pre show marketing.(entertainers cast release 12/9 airs 1/3. Thats about 3 weeks. So if 3rd week of Jan. is the airing date, we can't start to worry till atleaset after Xmas. If I hear anything, I'll let you know!" If they paid for the whole, long editing process I am pretty sure it will air. But yes, we will just wait till the 28th. If there is no word on ILM4 then, I agree with molds.

I want it to air already. I am going through ILM withdrawals. Everything on Vh1 kind of sucks right now Ray J & Tough Love have been weak this season. RCOL2 also sucked. I need some ILM back in my life.

[QUOTE=ILove$;145703]Hmm I have to agree with you on some points molds. But I say we should wait, I asked Punisher again and heres what he said: "Dude, if it doesn't air i'll be shocked. I was told by the strongest source possible that it was fully completed(as far as editing). It came out great, and it will air approx 3rd week of Jan. That was told to me mid Nov. If theres been some internal changes......I don't know, but vh1 usually gives 21-25 days of pre show marketing.(entertainers cast release 12/9 airs 1/3. Thats about 3 weeks. So if 3rd week of Jan. is the airing date, we can't start to worry till atleaset after Xmas. If I hear anything, I'll let you know!" If they paid for the whole, long editing process I am pretty sure it will air. But yes, we will just wait till the 28th. If there is no word on ILM4 then, I agree with molds.[/QUOTE] Oh, I will give him that the show was fully completed and reedited. But it did not come out great. That's just part of the lie. You would think with the longevity between the supposed premiere date of ILM4 and the finale of ILM2, that 51 Minds would be chomping at the bit to get a cast list, a tiny preview, anything of ILM4 out there so that people could start getting excited for the new season. They have done nothing. You guys can't tell me that doesn't worry you. This is going to be a disaster for VH1.

[QUOTE=molds13;145706][B]Oh, I will give him that the show was fully completed and reedited. But it did not come out great. That's just part of the lie.[/B] You would think with the longevity between the supposed premiere date of ILM4 and the finale of ILM2, that 51 Minds would be chomping at the bit to get a cast list, a tiny preview, anything of ILM4 out there so that people could start getting excited for the new season. They have done nothing. You guys can't tell me that doesn't worry you. This is going to be a disaster for VH1.[/QUOTE] If the show does indeed suck then that is just another drawback of them being so eager to film back to back seasons. They didnt know Ryan was going to go off and kill someone but what horrible luck for 51 Minds if this show sucks. I wish they had just waited to film another season like they usually do instead of the back to back filming. I can believe the show will not be that good. The rumoured cast list sucks.

[QUOTE=Aquatta;145708]If the show does indeed suck then that is just another drawback of them being so eager to film back to back seasons. They didnt know Ryan was going to go off and kill someone but what horrible luck for 51 Minds if this show sucks. I wish they had just waited to film another season like they usually do instead of the back to back filming. I can believe the show will not be that good. The rumoured cast list sucks.[/QUOTE] I actually think this season will be great, heres an updated cast list with 100% confirmed people: 1. Brittanya 2. Blonde Baller 3. Marcia 4. Mindy 5. Corn Fed 6. Chardonnay 7. Hot Wings 8. Feisty (Said she started tons of drama, unlike Ray J) 9. ? 10. ? Rumored: Black, Natasha, Gia, Mamacita, Baker 1. Mr Wise 2. Chi Chi 3. 20 Pack 4. Punisher 5. Francisco 6. 6 Gauge 7. ? 8. ? 9. ? Rumored: Cage, Alex, Flipper, But I'll wait to judge the show until I see a supertrailer or something! If you guys are wondering what the new mansion is like, its the exact same mansion from Inferno 1.