The Ruins: Evan Starkman - MTV

[QUOTE=Desertpuma;145347]Cornell is not an easy school to get into but he also may have gotten there on an athletic scholarship.[/QUOTE] I thought Cornell didn't give athletic scholarships? Regardless, he wouldn't make it in there if he wasn't smart. Regardless people need to stop doubting people's intelligence because of damn TV show or because they dislike them.

[QUOTE=blanky667;145012]Um... but... he is. He is a smart player, and he has made it far on every challenge he has been on. [B]There is a reason for that, and that is because he is a damn good player. [/B]It doesn't matter if he is a stupid Fresh Meater, (I am assuming this is why you say this), he is still a good player at the end of the day.[/QUOTE] No that's becasue people just sit back and let him (and his Alliances) control the game. That has nothing to do with being a good player. He's just lucky that he's doing challenges with a bunch of strategicly challenged cowards. And I really don't care what school he went to. Just because he went to some big Ivy league school doesn't make him smart.

To be fair most of them have went to or been university educated especially with more recent casts. Such as Adam who graduated from Stanford. Tyler Duckworth graduated from Tufts these are both prestigious. Though it does seem that BMP likes to cast people from Arizona State. Wes,Jonna,Derick from RW cancun,Sarah from Real World Hollywood to name a few.

Rachel Campos-Duffy (RW SF) also was found at Arizona State.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;145357]No that's becasue people just sit back and let him (and his Alliances) control the game. That has nothing to do with being a good player. He's just lucky that he's doing challenges with a bunch of strategicly challenged cowards. And I really don't care what school he went to. Just because he went to some big Ivy league school doesn't make him smart.[/QUOTE] evan won five missions in fresh meat 1, he won five missions in the duel 1 he won a face off in the gauntlet 3, then he won three face offs in the duel 2, won 2 missions and won the final mission of the duel 2 and he came back and won the ruins and you said that he is not a good player common give me a break

[QUOTE=alucard666;145450]evan won five missions in fresh meat 1, he won five missions in the duel 1 he won a face off in the gauntlet 3, then he won three face offs in the duel 2, won 2 missions and won the final mission of the duel 2 and he came back and won the ruins and you said that he is not a good player common give me a break[/QUOTE] Of course he has shown that he is a good athlete and can compete. He is by far the best competitor of the JEK-clan. What is Kenny`s record btw? I only remember him losing to Nehemiah and beating Tonya :D.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;145357]No that's becasue people just sit back and let him (and his Alliances) control the game. That has nothing to do with being a good player. He's just lucky that he's doing challenges with a bunch of strategicly challenged cowards. And I really don't care what school he went to. Just because he went to some big Ivy league school doesn't make him smart.[/QUOTE] I don't think he really cares. He's winning and that's pretty much all that matters. I used to think that what you say had all been processed in your head and really thought about but I've come to the conclusion that you just bash on JEK and other Fresh Meaters just because you simply don't like them. The old generation is either already gone or moving on, you need to either get used to it and accept it, or just seriously stop watching and talking about it.

[QUOTE=faceless;145493]I don't think he really cares. He's winning and that's pretty much all that matters. I used to think that what you say had all been processed in your head and really thought about but I've come to the conclusion that you just bash on JEK and other Fresh Meaters just because you simply don't like them. The old generation is either already gone or moving on, you need to either get used to it and accept it, or just seriously stop watching and talking about it.[/QUOTE]I agree 100%. Lets be honest here, without them, the show would suck. Of course, I do agree that Evan along with Kenny should take a little break to allow some new faces in but he still brings a lot of entertainment along with Kenny.

[QUOTE=blanky667;145565]I agree 100%. Lets be honest here, without them, the show would suck. Of course, I do agree that Evan along with Kenny should take a little break to allow some new faces in but he still brings a lot of entertainment along with Kenny.[/QUOTE] Well said :clapping: .

Well...lets compare Evan to Brad (who for some reason people think is a great player) or even a CT. CT and Brad have both pretty much always been in a top alliance controlling, and yet, they dont win. He is winning, thats really all that matters.

There's a simple description for what Evan is....a sociopath? Pathological liar...check....moral coward....check......challenge disgrace....check I would rather watch some of these lower-order animals like CT, Wes, KellyAnne, Katie, etc. work themselves into feral rages than ever watch Evan's ugly horse-face on any challenge again.

Also- just because you go to a state University does not mean you are not smart. Isaac was getting a 4.0 at Arizona (though he is kind of a BSer so who knows) and Wes graduated I think in 3 years. So- you can be a good student and not go to a private or hard to get into public school.

[QUOTE=bernielomax;150229]There's a simple description for what Evan is....a sociopath? Pathological liar...check....moral coward....check......challenge disgrace....check I would rather watch some of these lower-order animals like CT, Wes, KellyAnne, Katie, etc. work themselves into feral rages than ever watch Evan's ugly horse-face on any challenge again.[/QUOTE] Why is a challenge disgrace? Out of all Fresh Meat, and the JEK he deserves every single win he's gotten. The guy has even out performed challenge vets like Landon and CT, sure he's a liar but come on...who isnt? The guy hasnt killed, raped or done anything inhumane, so morally he isnt a coward. He knows how to play the game better than most, the guy may be an ego maniac..but these are people who are on reality tv so they all mostly have egos. The only thing I dont like about Evan, Kenny, Evelyn etc..is that they weren't on a real show..but its been 4 years I think its time we got over it.

[QUOTE=Entropy;150243]Why is a challenge disgrace? Out of all Fresh Meat, and the JEK he deserves every single win he's gotten. The guy has even out performed challenge vets like Landon and CT, sure he's a liar but come on...who isnt? The guy hasnt killed, raped or done anything inhumane, so morally he isnt a coward. He knows how to play the game better than most, the guy may be an ego maniac..but these are people who are on reality tv so they all mostly have egos. The only thing I dont like about Evan, Kenny, Evelyn etc..is that they weren't on a real show..but its been 4 years I think its time we got over it.[/QUOTE] out performed??? Um how?? I'm sure CT beat him in the Duel as he tried to cheat. Duel 2 he didn't out perform Landon or CT because he didn't go against them in a Duel. As a matter of fact, he only won two challenges on Duel 2. One by default and the other because he was a better speller. So did he out perform Landon, yea i guess... in a spelling bee, but not physical competition by any means. Evan is a great competitor, but CT and Landon are far better.

[QUOTE=r3iKo;150245]out performed??? Um how?? I'm sure CT beat him in the Duel as he tried to cheat. Duel 2 he didn't out perform Landon or CT because he didn't go against them in a Duel. As a matter of fact, he only won two challenges on Duel 2. One by default and the other because he was a better speller. So did he out perform Landon, yea i guess... in a spelling bee, but not physical competition by any means. Evan is a great competitor, but CT and Landon are far better.[/QUOTE] I think what Entropy is trying to say is that he's a great performer (although he isn't better then CT and Landon) unlike Johnny and Kenny. Johnny and Kenny know they aren't the best when it comes to performance (even if they don't want to admit it) so they strictly work harder on mental and game play. Evan on the other hand acknowledges that even though mental and game play is half the game, the other half, competition, is a huge factor also. Like in the ruins replay when Johnny and Evan were talking about CT and Johnny said CT was mental and Evan was saying how because he's such a good competitor no one wants to go against him and saying that for CT that is a good enough strategy.

I saw this on wikipedia "Evan's real name is Michael Starkman but for unknown reasons does not use his legal name on MTV programming." is that true?! and ***.

Read the replies.. http://bilmes.blogspot.com/2009/10/who-is-evan-starkman.html

If Kenny is on the front page it is only right for Evan to be as well lmao. The only reason that **** *** ***** John is in the position he is...... SMH

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