The Ruins: Ep. 6 - Ruining on Empty

[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;135896]Touching someone, in an unwanted way, isn't cool. I love Katie, but she shouldn't have been able to get away with it either.[/QUOTE] Is that why you posted how awesome it was for Katie to have done that to Sarah, when Sarah didn't do anything?

I agree with RW

[QUOTE=tjhallow;135892]What does this have to with Evan? Seriously?[/QUOTE] I think it's just that he hates Evan...

I love how everyone sees themselves as looking out for the good of the team. Its easy for Evan and Kenny to distance themselves from Johnny when they would have done the exact same thing in that situation.

[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;135896]Touching someone, in an unwanted way, isn't cool. I love Katie, but she shouldn't have been able to get away with it either.[/QUOTE] OK...Katie didn't really do anything, Sarah just knew it wasn't a joke and wasn't going to be a baby about crying to production, although that's off-topic. I'm sure Johnny knew that it was just a drunken rage from Derrick and that it wasn't meant in any real form of hatred.

[QUOTE=asamber1;135885]Veronica got owned by KellyAnne and that stinks. I love Veronica and KellyAnne, but i was hoping Veronica would at least give a good showing. But i think the circumstances around her elimination were not as bad as i thought they would be. Honestly going into the challenge i thought KA and Veronica would not get along, and at least the team was actually rooting for Veronica to win. Evan is really annoying, i think he for sure puts up a font for the camera. I really don't understand Johanna/Susie game play. If they are going to put Veronica in every time, why not put her in against Sarah and Kim first so there is a good chance Veronica could come back. Then in turn every round Veronica comes back is another round they are safe. But yea Susie is just a *****. Calling Veronica "chubbs" *** was that?[/QUOTE] I totally agree about Johanna/Susie game not being very smart. They should have sent Veronica in against Kim first.

So is there some reason the girls had to wear their bikini bathing suits for this mission that I missed?

I feel everybody that is posting bs against Derrick is only doing it because he is friends with JEK. And it's really rediculus to hate someone because of who they hang out with.

Good question, emcmac. I think it was supposed to be sexy, but it didn't turn out that way...

I don't dislike Derrick but I don't think that he should be allowed to get away with attcking anyone.

[QUOTE=TV LOVER;135904]I totally agree about Johanna/Susie game not being very smart. They should have sent Veronica in against Kim first.[/QUOTE] I completely understand why. It was win-win for them. If Veronica beat Kelly Anne, they got rid of the Challengers' strongest girl and they still had Veronica to send in next week instead of themselves. If Veronica lost, meh. They got rid of her anyway.

[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;135908]I don't dislike Derrick but I don't think that he should be allowed to get away with attcking anyone.[/QUOTE] Well, he did. Time to move on...

[QUOTE=molds13;135909]I completely understand why. It was win-win for them. If Veronica beat Kelly Anne, they got rid of the Challengers' strongest girl and they still had Veronica to send in next week instead of themselves. If Veronica lost, meh. They got rid of her anyway.[/QUOTE] Yes but Veronica's chances of winning versus Kelly Anne are very slim whereas her chances against Kim are decent. So if KA wins, which she does, either Johanna or Susie have to go in next time.

[QUOTE=TV LOVER;135916]Yes but Veronica's chances of winning versus Kelly Anne are very slim whereas her chances against Kim are decent. So if KA wins, which she does, either Johanna or Susie have to go in next time.[/QUOTE] I don't see where her chances would have been any different. Kim has gone into more elimination rounds and taken out stronger competitors in more physical challenges.

I think that she should have had her pick. She probibaly could have beaten Sarah easily.

[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;135918]I think that she should have had her pick. She probibaly could have beaten Sarah easily.[/QUOTE] What makes you say that?

It is just my opinion. I guess we will never know.

Veronica calling derrick a coward is going to make me miss her so much.. ive been saying that about him for weeks..

True. I just think Sarah looks like she is pretty athletic. Its hard to tell though because most of the challenges really dont measure athleticism. So its really hard to tell who stands out. No one has really come out looking good- you can only look bad. Like Casey, or Derrick for not being able to follow simple instructions and panicing.

[QUOTE=KellyA+Wes;135923]Veronica calling derrick a coward is going to make me miss her so much.. ive been saying that about him for weeks..[/QUOTE] I have said the same thing. He tries to act like he isnt part of an alliance even though he clearly goes along with what others say. I said the same thing on the Island. Derrick tried to play the middle when he never had the intention of helping out EV or KellyAnne.

So Derrick is a coward because he follows his friends?

A new generation of people? Really Evan? Susie - Road Rules 1998 Veronica - Road Rules 1999

I think that the Champion girls should without a doubt get to pick their own opponent. As much as I love both KA and Cohutta I kind of wish that Veronica and Syrus had come back so they could make waves on their team. Personally if I were to have to go into the ruins against the Challenger girls I would pick them in this order : Casey (OBVIOUSLY), Kim, Sarah, and then KA. If I were to have to go in against the Champion girls I would pick them in this order: Johanna, Veronica, and then Susie. Why do they act like Syrus is completely ancient? He isn't that old!

[QUOTE=dplayer18;135926]So Derrick is a coward because he follows his friends?[/QUOTE] Coward may not be the best word. But its not that he is following his friends- its that he tries to appear like he is neutral. Thats how it seems to me anyway.

I really was hoping for Veronica and Syrus to win that way they would probably throw the next challenge and then let the challengers decided who to go in and I was also hoping that Johnny would go into the ruins instead of Syrus.

[QUOTE=dplayer18;135926]So Derrick is a coward because he follows his friends?[/QUOTE] I think it is pretty clear that his friends are prepared to throw him under the bus as soon as they run out of other scapegoats!!

I am disappointed in Derick - I get the game he's playing but come on grow a pair and stop letting the young punks run the show. The big alliance on the champion team could have been overthrown early in this challenge if people would have played the game right - that includes Derrick, Syrus, Katie, Tonya, and Veronica. Wes and Ev already knew what was going on - its a shame nobody would listen to them until its too late. I still have much respect and admiration for Derick so I dog him too much. I hope Susie NEVER does another challenge again - I cant take that annoying voice any longer. That girl isnt even that great of a competitor and never really was. Evan is now lower than Kenny and Johnny in my opinion - I detest him. Lol @ Dunbar calling him a "moose" again though.

ok does anyone else think that the allience drama is being played up more than it really is because there is really no other drama now that Wes is gone, I only say that because as you can see the trio is still there along with derrick, and on The Ruins replay Even and Kenny were basically saying the can never say anything bad about Johnny so that indicates that they are gonna keep sticking together.

[QUOTE=TV LOVER;135932]I think it is pretty clear that his friends are prepared to throw him under the bus as soon as they run out of other scapegoats!![/QUOTE] nah not Derick - they'd throw Johnny under the bus before they would Derick

[QUOTE=RW_Chall_Fan;135935]nah not Derick - they'd throw Johnny under the bus before they would Derick[/QUOTE] Is this based on previous conversations you have had with Evan and Kenny? Anyway, I think that was regarding the 4 in the room talking about how they would do anything to get them to the finals (Kenny, Evan, Susie, and Jo).