If they did have a BOTS3, it would so different with Johnny, Kenny, and Evan around. The majority of the time the boys were fair but with the challenges these days it would be interesting. The guys would probably have more drama than the girls. Can you imagine Landon going home before Johnny? Hah.
For the last challenge ever, it should be an all star challenge with three teams. Fresh Meat vs. Real World vs. Road Rules. haha.
Or BMP should let the fans pick the cast, how awesome would that be.
[QUOTE=tjhallow;128506]If they did have a BOTS3, it would so different with Johnny, Kenny, and Evan around. The majority of the time the boys were fair but with the challenges these days it would be interesting. The guys would probably have more drama than the girls. Can you imagine Landon going home before Johnny? Hah.
For the last challenge ever, it should be an all star challenge with three teams. Fresh Meat vs. Real World vs. Road Rules. haha.
Or BMP should let the fans pick the cast, how awesome would that be.[/QUOTE]
Now a fan cast based would be pretty cool, and interesting. However, I like the idea of the all star one, but RR would be too old so that would suck
Here's my two sense. JEK would have no power if any strong competitor was there. CT would be the only person to actually do something about it. While people like Alton and Landon would be fair and let performance decide everything. I don't see why anyone would align themselves up with JEK, like when they ****ed Evelyn over, Katie was just like uh i guess I'll vote that way. When she knows damn well JEK have no intension's of her even being there. So I think everyone on the challenge should have sided with Wes in the first place.
So the game is rigged because JEK know how to play the game? That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. The only reason why its like that is because no one goes against them. Wow. And just because someone doesn't go into a face-off doesn't mean they don't earn their keep. The game is more mental than physical. And Evan has proved himself, many times. This is the RW/RR Challenge, not the Olympics.
If that was the case, any person who never has gone into an elimination round of any challenge season I guess has "slided" to the end, huh?
And how are the producers biased with Evan, Kenny, Johnny, and Susie? There has been two episodes. Susie has only been in one challenge with Kenny and Johnny and Kenny was on the opposite team. Susie and Evan have never been on a challenge together.
Did you get to see the episodes in advance or something?
[QUOTE=r3iKo;128523]Here's my two sense. JEK would have no power if any strong competitor was there. CT would be the only person to actually do something about it. While people like Alton and Landon would be fair and let performance decide everything. I don't see why anyone would align themselves up with JEK, like when they ****ed Evelyn over, Katie was just like uh i guess I'll vote that way. When she knows damn well JEK have no intension's of her even being there. So I think everyone on the challenge should have sided with Wes in the first place.[/QUOTE]
I absolutely agree with you.
[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;128536]Wouldn't it be interesting to see that? Johnny would be seperated from Kenny and Evan! I am up for anything that could get Johnny out early:)[/QUOTE]
I think Johnny and Kenny would be on the mouths team. It could go either way with Evan. Either way, when it comes down to it, Evan is only looking out for himself and Kenny. I'm not so sure about Kenny, he seems to be pretty close to bananas but bananas doesn't seem as close to Evan. Kenny is the glue that holds them together, that sounds so cheesy. lol.
I do agree that the game is predictable, and it would have been cool to see Ev and Wes be against their team but I don't production is favoring anybody. The cast are just puppets. The challenge is still entertaining none the less.
[QUOTE=tjhallow;128526]So the game is rigged because JEK know how to play the game? That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. The only reason why its like that is because no one goes against them. Wow. And just because someone doesn't go into a face-off doesn't mean they don't earn their keep. The game is more mental than physical. And Evan has proved himself, many times. This is the RW/RR Challenge, not the Olympics.
If that was the case, any person who never has gone into an elimination round of any challenge season I guess has "slided" to the end, huh?
And how are the producers biased with Evan, Kenny, Johnny, and Susie? There has been two episodes. Susie has only been in one challenge with Kenny and Johnny and Kenny was on the opposite team. Susie and Evan have never been on a challenge together.
Did you get to see the episodes in advance or something?[/QUOTE]
is this tj hallow or tj lavin? It doesn't take sneak peeks and advanced screening to see this from a mile away. Most of us have watched the challenges for a while, and it's pretty redundant as to what is going to happen - spoilers or not!
The J/K/E alliance extends all the way back to The Island, or perhaps G3. The problem on G3 was that had Evan & Kenny not agreed with CT to get rid of Bananas, they were gonners because they couldn't take down CT. The producers have always made Evan to appeat to be this lovable and funny guy, and has given both him and Kenny many set asides. During the Island Kenny & johnny was given additional food from production, Evan appears on almost every aftershow regardless if the plot is about him or not.
They dominated the game on the Island. They convinced enough followers (Paula, Johanna, Dunbar, Derrick, Robin, and Ryan) to control the faceoffs and the vote. Same for this game. I don't discredit them for being able to manipulate the remaining cast, but I do fault them for never ever wanting to prove themselves. Evan has gone in and won, but he has whined about every face off he had to endure. Every one.
I think that everyone talking crap about JEK need to remember that the other players are just as responsible about how the game goes as well as those three. Instead of making deals with JEK they should all work together and work aginst JEK. I personally think that they are playing the game smart and and the others are falling for it instead of outsmarting them.
[QUOTE=r3iKo;128523]Here's my two sense. JEK would have no power if any strong competitor was there. CT would be the only person to actually do something about it. While people like Alton and Landon would be fair and let performance decide everything. I don't see why anyone would align themselves up with JEK, like when they ****ed Evelyn over, Katie was just like uh i guess I'll vote that way. When she knows damn well JEK have no intension's of her even being there. So I think everyone on the challenge should have sided with Wes in the first place.[/QUOTE]
What difference does Katie make? Do you think if Wes and CT were on a team they would want Katie on it? Landon and Alton would want Katie? Katie is a player that knows by now everyone thinks she sucks. So she pretty much as to stay as long as she can. So her only option is to go with the flow.
Also CT would not be on the champions- so there isnt much he could do. He would just never volunteer for elimination just like Brad. He is strong but there is still Casey so I doubt he would have made much difference.
[QUOTE=Darock1713;128543]is this tj hallow or tj lavin? It doesn't take sneak peeks and advanced screening to see this from a mile away. Most of us have watched the challenges for a while, and it's pretty redundant as to what is going to happen - spoilers or not!
The J/K/E alliance extends all the way back to The Island, or perhaps G3. The problem on G3 was that had Evan & Kenny not agreed with CT to get rid of Bananas, they were gonners because they couldn't take down CT. The producers have always made Evan to appeat to be this lovable and funny guy, and has given both him and Kenny many set asides. During the Island Kenny & johnny was given additional food from production, Evan appears on almost every aftershow regardless if the plot is about him or not.
They dominated the game on the Island. They convinced enough followers (Paula, Johanna, Dunbar, Derrick, Robin, and Ryan) to control the faceoffs and the vote. Same for this game. I don't discredit them for being able to manipulate the remaining cast, but I do fault them for never ever wanting to prove themselves. Evan has gone in and won, but he has whined about every face off he had to endure. Every one.
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Its tjhallow- I'm a girl.
Its obvious whats going to happen but I'm not buying the producers are favoring them. Sorry. Unless you have some inside information you would like to share.
And I don't think Kenny or Evan were remorseful with what happened to Johnny on Gauntlet 3. They all knew what was going on and did not even try to object to CT. They were working with CT, I'm not buying that they were afraid to go against CT. And I don't think Evan appears loveable, he appears as a snake.
Evan was not on the Island. Johnny and Kenny dominated the game, and I doubt production had a gun to the cast members had telling them they had to what Johnny and Kenny said.
And Evan whines, yes, so does everyone else. And I don't know what Kenny has to do to prove himself anymore than he already did. Doing well in missions (or challenges) is also called proving yourself. You don't have to go in a faceoff every single challenge.
I don't think we've seen that much from Bananas though, but he's not a horrible competitor.
Most of this has to do with the fact that the cast members let them do it. And a lot of these people are friends outside of the shows, that also has a lot to do with it.
[QUOTE=morris614;128545]What difference does Katie make? Do you think if Wes and CT were on a team they would want Katie on it? Landon and Alton would want Katie? Katie is a player that knows by now everyone thinks she sucks. So she pretty much as to stay as long as she can. So her only option is to go with the flow.
Also CT would not be on the champions- so there isnt much he could do. He would just never volunteer for elimination just like Brad. He is strong but there is still Casey so I doubt he would have made much difference.[/QUOTE]
If CT was on the challenge, there is no way Kelly Anne would have been up for elimination given her ability vs the other female players. CT would have easily convinced Brad, Danny, and others to go in a different direction - perhaps nominating someone less talented than her. He would have preferred to "reduce the fat" since he would be considered as a leader on the team. In addition, I guaruntee Evan and/or Kenny would have done things quite differenty to avoid the potential of having CT "decide" to take them once the challengers, who would have been more competitive. 1 conversation would have turned Evan and Kenny.
Katie for all of her past has been reduced to a shell of herself by allowing herself to be manipulated into thinking that they were going to save her.
I think that Johnny is a great if you are looking at the game from a mental perspective, and Tj I agree with you the other castmembers let JEK to dominate the game so they do.
[QUOTE=tjhallow;128547]Its tjhallow- I'm a girl.
Its obvious whats going to happen but I'm not buying the producers are favoring them. Sorry. Unless you have some inside information you would like to share.
And I don't think Kenny or Evan were remorseful with what happened to Johnny on Gauntlet 3. They all knew what was going on and did not even try to object to CT. They were working with CT, I'm not buying that they were afraid to go against CT. And I don't think Evan appears loveable, he appears as a snake.
Evan was not on the Island. Johnny and Kenny dominated the game, and I doubt production had a gun to the cast members had telling them they had to what Johnny and Kenny said.
And Evan whines, yes, so does everyone else. And I don't know what Kenny has to do to prove himself anymore than he already did. Doing well in missions (or challenges) is also called proving yourself. You don't have to go in a faceoff every single challenge.
I don't think we've seen that much from Bananas though, but he's not a horrible competitor.
Most of this has to do with the fact that the cast members let them do it. And a lot of these people are friends outside of the shows, that also has a lot to do with it.[/QUOTE]
I agree with most of your post and I was not trying to implying that you were a boy. Sorry if I did.
However, Kenny has never won an individual face off. Nehemiah has intimidated him for life in wanting to go into one. As for G3, they were afraid of CT to be able to without any conviction throw their best friend under the bus. No scruples for the sake of the money. It's a game, so it is what it is......but Kenny is unproven, and until this point is a mediocre competitor with enough friends to get by.
He hasn't stood out in any challenge he has ever been on by himself including Inferno when Evelyn helped him win a challenge, and the fishing challenge where Cara didn't even fight.
[QUOTE=Darock1713;128554]I agree with most of your post and I was not trying to implying that you were a boy. Sorry if I did.
However, Kenny has never won an individual face off. Nehemiah has intimidated him for life in wanting to go into one. As for G3, they were afraid of CT to be able to without any conviction throw their best friend under the bus. No scruples for the sake of the money. It's a game, so it is what it is......but Kenny is unproven, and until this point is a mediocre competitor with enough friends to get by.
He hasn't stood out in any challenge he has ever been on by himself including Inferno when Evelyn helped him win a challenge, and the fishing challenge where Cara didn't even fight.[/QUOTE]
I don't buy that Johnny was that tight with them on Gauntlet 3. They all were in on bananas going on. And I will have to disagree with you Kenny is unproven. He's no Landon, Evan, CT, etc. but he's no Ryan either.
He's making bank, which is more than most of the other contestants can say. I do know that outside friendships have a lot to do with the challenges as well. There are other reasons why people have issues with Wes, not just because he didn
't tell them he was coming.
Hey, I love Evan, I do, but I agree that its getting boring to see the same **** happen every challenge, but they the game figured out, and thats what a challenge is.
JEK and Derrick are running the show. They cracked the system and have figured out the best way for them to win. If any of us were on a show, I'm sure we would all not want to go into a face off where we could possibly go home. Rather, we would make friends, alliances, lie, and cheat others to win. That's what coming on the show is, trying to win money. Sure, times have changed but that was inevitable. I do prefer to see other people then JEK on these shows. Even though Derrick does a lot of these, he is my favorite. But Kenny may not be the most fierce competitor on these shows, but he's winning. He's doing what he came to do. Get over it.
[QUOTE=faceless;128572]JEK and Derrick are running the show. They cracked the system and have figured out the best way for them to win. If any of us were on a show, I'm sure we would all not want to go into a face off where we could possibly go home. Rather, we would make friends, alliances, lie, and cheat others to win. That's what coming on the show is, trying to win money. Sure, times have changed but that was inevitable. I do prefer to see other people then JEK on these shows. Even though Derrick does a lot of these, he is my favorite. But Kenny may not be the most fierce competitor on these shows, but he's winning. He's doing what he came to do. Get over it.[/QUOTE]
I completely agree with this.
[QUOTE=r3iKo;128523]Here's my two sense. JEK would have no power if any strong competitor was there. CT would be the only person to actually do something about it. While people like Alton and Landon would be fair and let performance decide everything. I don't see why anyone would align themselves up with JEK, like when they ****ed Evelyn over, Katie was just like uh i guess I'll vote that way. When she knows damn well JEK have no intension's of her even being there. So I think everyone on the challenge should have sided with Wes in the first place.[/QUOTE]
I said this before the season even started in regards to JEK & CT. It's amazing that when CT is on a challenge, Johnny is one of the first to go home and Evan & Kenny keep themselves in check with whatever CT wants to do. But, whenever he's out of the equation, it's a different story. I can see Evan & Kenny being the masterminds because they were sort of like CT's understudies to an extent on G3, but Johnny? He is a scrub.
[QUOTE=rey2pokey;129236]who would win in an elimination? Shauvon or Brooke
I SAY...... Shauvon only because she says she is so tough lol[/QUOTE]
It would be a draw, because they both will get injured, lol.
I wonder why for The Ruins, they couldn't get ANYBODY from RW Denver.:sad: I would've thought they could get Jenn at least but maybe she didn't because she's probably still got a bit of love for Rachel, whether she wants to admit it or not, and knowing that V is gonna be there and her and Rachel aren't friends anymore for a mysterious reason, it would be very hard if Jenn and V had anything going on considering how open they are in terms of sexuality.:flirt: Then if Rachel comes back in the future, she'd probably feel like Wes is feeling over Kenny and Jo screwing their brains out back in The Island.:treaten:
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