It's funny I used to hate Susie at a time where it seemed more people like her. Now that I've grown to like her, everyone hates her. I think she's a smart girl and really she's just trying to save her own ***. It is a game. Ofcourse she would want Evelyn to go in and take Kelly Anne. I would want the same thing and go along with the team as well.
She can be condescending though. That's the one thing I've always disliked about her.
Johanna said on the Ruins Replay on mtv.com that she never was going to sell the house and would never do that because it is mean and wrong, but she just wanted to have some leverage over Wes so he wouldn't throw missions and mess with her money.
Emilee needs to stop tweeting about **** she doesn't know about. Just because your( her and Wes) are both on MTV and are forced to bend over and take it up the rear by Evan doesn't mean you have the authority to comment on everyone. I'm gonna go tweet how much of a jerk Kanye is because it's socially "cool" to do so and I clearly know him because he is played on my local radio staion. Atleast both Wes and Kanye West are real, admit their egos. Or we can just be jobless in Boston and tweet about every Reality MTV member.
Wes is saving this Ruins for me.
WOW, this episode made me dislike a lot of people. I think Johanna is awful. She follows Kenny around practically begging him to hookup with her. I think that Ev did the right thing in throwing the challenge. I hope Kelly Anne sends every single one of the champion girls home. Besides Ev they are all spineless.
[QUOTE=Unicorn;126980]It's funny I used to hate Susie at a time where it seemed more people like her. Now that I've grown to like her, everyone hates her. I think she's a smart girl and really she's just trying to save her own ***. It is a game. Ofcourse she would want Evelyn to go in and take Kelly Anne. I would want the same thing and go along with the team as well.
[B]She can be condescending though.[/B] That's the one thing I've always disliked about her.[/QUOTE]
The girl with the PHD? lol
[QUOTE=kellerz;126981]Johanna said on the Ruins Replay on mtv.com that she never was going to sell the house and would never do that because it is mean and wrong, but she just wanted to have some leverage over Wes so he wouldn't throw missions and mess with her money.[/QUOTE]
She still mentioned it, which is a pretty awful thing to do, and it makes her a total hypocrite for not being able to distinguish between her personal life and a game.
Here's my two cents on the whole selling the house bit: If Wes was dumb enough to put her name on the title, then she has every right to sell it.
My parents still have the title over my car even though I make the payments, and if they wanted to, they could sell it because they own it.
He was bragging about how wealthy he was, but he forgot to have the title put in his name?
I'm glad she did what she did because she outsmarted him. I'm so tired of seeing these men think they can walk all over the women. Johanna proved otherwise. The smart ones usually seem the most shady, but if they were playing poker, she had the better hand.
[QUOTE=laurad311;126695]i just wanted to say that i freaking hate susie. what a *****.[/QUOTE]
I can't stand Susie either.... Since that time she went on one of the after shows and talked s*** about Beth, Katie and Ibis I haven't been to stand her and this was years ago. She comes across as a very hypocrite person and certainly someone not to trust.
This is a game. Half of these greedy ******** have won already. Why can't people play fair again? Why is the idea of welcoming challenging competition so shrugged against? Instead, yep.. Demonize Wes, suck off champion boys, be flocking sheep.
Personal life, jojo and Wes seem to have relations for his house to be in her name. This is a televised game. Be classy and leave out the personal ****. Isn't she the one who cheated on him in the first place?
[QUOTE=RMD1;126985]The girl with the PHD? lol[/QUOTE]
Having a PhD doesn't make you better than everyone else. If she was actually smart, she would learn how to talk nice to people.
[QUOTE=ElectraWoman;126987]
He was bragging about how wealthy he was, but he forgot to have the title put in his name? [/QUOTE]
I highly doubt that he "forgot"...probably more like a strategic move on his part because he trusted her.
i used to love susie & derrick, now i've lost all respect for them...at least ev has morals! these ppl are ******** who dont deserve to get free vacations & money...how do they sleep at night
[QUOTE=Moonpaw;126993]Having a PhD doesn't make you better than everyone else. If she was actually smart, she would learn how to talk nice to people.
I highly doubt that he "forgot"...probably more like a strategic move on his part because he trusted her.[/QUOTE]
They aren't together anymore. Her name should not be attached to anything he owns. Simple as that. If he didn't take responsibility to have it fixed then she can hold it over his head all she likes.
[QUOTE=behindme;126775]TJ, that would literally be the greatest thing ever. I can see it now...
"Look who called me a ******* quitter! I ain't no quitter you stupid *****!"
Also, I'm convinced that Veronica and Syrus aren't on this challenge and there are just body doubles to convince us otherwise.[/QUOTE]
Umm the difference is that we all saw how Evelyn first beat Kelly Ann and then purposely lost. There's absolutely no doubt that Kelly Ann had no chance of beating Evelyn. KA got to stay because Ev handed her the win.
As for Coral, I think the situation is different and I do think Coral is a quitter because she quit before even trying to go against Evelyn and while I don't know this for sure I think she was probably scared and knew she stood no chance against Ev. 2 different situations.
[QUOTE=ElectraWoman;127000]They aren't together anymore. Her name should not be attached to anything he owns. Simple as that. If he didn't take responsibility to have it fixed then she can hold it over his head all she likes.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't really matter if they're together or not. I'm not saying that she can't or shouldn't hold it over his head; I'm just saying that he probably didn't just forget to put his name on the deed, and he trusted her enough to leave it there. Call it dumb, but he wasn't wrong...she did say that it was just an empty threat.
[QUOTE=Moonpaw;127006]It doesn't really matter if they're together or not. I'm not saying that she can't or shouldn't hold it over his head; I'm just saying that he probably didn't just forget to put his name on the deed, and he trusted her enough to leave it there. Call it dumb, but he wasn't wrong...she did say that it was just an empty threat.[/QUOTE]
I realize that he didn't just forget to have it put in his name. The only reason I said that was because he was bragging about how much money he has to Darrell, but his own house isn't even in his name. That's all I was trying to get at.
I feel like I'll continually post this every episode... every season even. I LOVE JEK and hate Wes and Kelly Anne. I understand JEK might not have a great moral compass but they're good at what they do. And Wes and Kelly Anne are straight up mental.
And Johanna's ultimatum at the end was perfect.
[QUOTE=RRRWJunkie;127021]I feel like I'll continually post this every episode... every season even. I LOVE JEK and hate Wes and Kelly Anne. I understand JEK might not have a great moral compass but they're good at what they do. And Wes and Kelly Anne are straight up mental.
And Johanna's ultimatum at the end was perfect.[/QUOTE]
If you love when people have no morals and are willing to do anything in order to win then I can see why you love JEK. Seems like you have a good challenge to look forward to then. Enjoy.
Maybe PERSONAL reasons required him needing someone else's name on his house (bad credit, not enough credit, other business endeavors, debt, etc). Maybe he is trying to fix such to transfer the deed or name? Did anyone miss the personal part? Personal as in, a reality tv show and game where both competitors have won already probably isn't the place?
Ugh, this challenge has me annoyed already. Evan and Wes are lookin pretty dope though, not gonna lie :P
[QUOTE=Dannyboy;127031]If you love when people have no morals and are willing to do anything in order to win then I can see why you love JEK. Seems like you have a good challenge to look forward to then. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]
That's the whole point of these shows. I don't watch for people to be nice to each other. I watch for the Veronica's to manipulate people to vote how she wants. I watch for the Evan's to backstab people. Are these people morally suspect? By what we see on TV, yes, they are, but I'm not sure how many of us know them in real life. They are doing a show to provide entertainment, and while you may not enjoy it, other people do.
If I wanted to watch people be nice to each other, I'd go people watch at my local church, but even then I'm sure I'd find people just as shady as JEK.
[QUOTE=LCbaby;127034][B]Maybe PERSONAL reasons required him needing someone else's name on his house (bad credit, not enough credit, other business endeavors, debt, etc). [/B]Maybe he is trying to fix such to transfer the deed or name? Did anyone miss the personal part? Personal as in, a reality tv show and game where both competitors have won already probably isn't the place?
Ugh, this challenge has me annoyed already. Evan and Wes are lookin pretty dope though, not gonna lie :P[/QUOTE]
that is what i was thinking about the Deed. just because he has money doesn't mean he had the credit to get a house. plus if they were together and engaged it is understandable he would trust her enough to put her name on the deed. it isn't super easy to transfer the deed to someone else there is a bit of a process to go through.
this challenge seems like it will be a good one, but with that group of people controlling everything it will get annoying fast and end up like the past few challenges with them getting everyone out and having to hear about how amazing they are. gag me.....
I feel like Evan is trying to wise up when he was talking to Wes, but from the looks of the preview for next week that doesn't last. I want Evan to be a good guy so bad, it makes me sad.
[QUOTE=LCbaby;127034]Maybe PERSONAL reasons required him needing someone else's name on his house (bad credit, not enough credit, other business endeavors, debt, etc). Maybe he is trying to fix such to transfer the deed or name? Did anyone miss the personal part? Personal as in, a reality tv show and game where both competitors have won already probably isn't the place?
Ugh, this challenge has me annoyed already. Evan and Wes are lookin pretty dope though, not gonna lie :P[/QUOTE]
And that's the whole point. If he needs someone to sign the title for him, he shouldn't be bragging about how much money he has to Darrell.
[QUOTE=LCbaby;127034]Maybe PERSONAL reasons required him needing someone else's name on his house (bad credit, not enough credit, other business endeavors, debt, etc). Maybe he is trying to fix such to transfer the deed or name? Did anyone miss the personal part? Personal as in, a reality tv show and game where both competitors have won already probably isn't the place?
Ugh, this challenge has me annoyed already. Evan and Wes are lookin pretty dope though, not gonna lie :P[/QUOTE]
Missed ya, LC!
And I agree with ya there. Game =/= real life.
[QUOTE=ElectraWoman;127038]That's the whole point of these shows. I don't watch for people to be nice to each other. I watch for the Veronica's to manipulate people to vote how she wants. I watch for the Evan's to backstab people. Are these people morally suspect? By what we see on TV, yes, they are, but I'm not sure how many of us know them in real life. They are doing a show to provide entertainment, and while you may not enjoy it, other people do.
If I wanted to watch people be nice to each other, I'd go people watch at my local church, but even then I'm sure I'd find people just as shady as JEK.[/QUOTE]
HAHA its so true.
SO its terrible for JEK to backstab, and its TERRIBLE for Johnny to call EV a stupid *****, but its OK for Wes to call Casey a stupid *****.
[QUOTE=whoadeedle;127040]that is what i was thinking about the Deed. just because he has money doesn't mean he had the credit to get a house. plus if they were together and engaged it is understandable he would trust her enough to put her name on the deed. it isn't super easy to transfer the deed to someone else there is a bit of a process to go through.
[/QUOTE]
Money trumps credit, at least that's what I've been told. When looking into the housing market an agent told me if I could put a certain percentage down, the house would be mine. Also, if he needed someone on the title, get a family member, not a girl from a reality show.
It's not as hard as you may think. My dad just had a title to a trailer transferred to someone else's name.
[QUOTE] these ppl are ******** who dont deserve to get free vacations & money...how do they sleep at night [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]If you love when people have no morals and are willing to do anything in order to win then I can see why you love JEK. [/QUOTE]
This is a show. This is game. For money. These people know what they sign up for, and they're smart enough to know how to strategize. I'm sure they sleep very well at night. And where were Evelyn's "morals" when she decided to "cut the fat" (the other "unworthy" women) on G3?
The fact that people take this show so seriously and use it as a measure of people's moral compasses is a bit scary. We see 5% of reality on these shows. I mean, I cannot stand Kelly Anne on my screen, but I wouldn't use it as a measure of her morals or whether she is a "good" or "bad" person.
It's also obvious that Johanna is at the end of her rope with Wes and just pulled whatever card she had at that point. I doubt very much she was serious. She wanted to rattle him and it worked. Hmm, worked like a charm. Isn't that what Wes is trying to do, rattle everyone with his blackmail, tantrums, and psychotic meltdowns? Johanna just trumped his bull****.
I have a few comments:
-I really wanted Ev to win so that she and Wes could team up, form an alliance, and then **** the champions team in the ***. THAT would be great TV, but I respect her a little more for taking the high road, not selling out (again), and letting KA continue in the competition. Even KA sucks at life.
-Wes ******* with everyone is great. I love it. AND I love how he stood up for Ev when she got blindsided
-Shauvon is a moron. Challengers are lucky they got rid of her, otherwise, she never would go in! Now if they can only rid themselves of Casey...
-I totally want more Sarah, Kimberly, and Ibis
-Hopefully they never repeat a Ruin. I like that they're always a mystery, and that the cast doesn't know what will decide their fate.
-And oh yeah, TJ is a ******.
Pretty sure she wasn't a random girl from a reality show but rather the love of his life and fiancée at the time. I'm not saying Wes isn't a personna or jerk, but if he said that to Darrell that's him and Darrell. Where is Jo in that? No where. We can go back and forth all day. I'm not saying he was right, but that was classless and bad of Jo. I'm not willing to be a sheep and turn a blind eye to nastiness whether the receipent or doer is a person worthy of affection. Insert Emilee and shauvon here. Any other person and there'd be as big of riots going on as there was with Joey/Ayiia cutting ordeal.
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