The Ruins: Ep. 2 - Discussion

[QUOTE=Moonpaw;127324]For a woman who was juicing, she was quite thin.[/QUOTE] That's what I thought, too, Moonpaw, which is exactly why I was wondering if there could be any truth to it.

[QUOTE=pinkspatzi;127335]That's what I thought, too, Moonpaw, which is exactly why I was wondering if there could be any truth to it.[/QUOTE]Does the entire cast pretty much juice? Evan, Kenny, Danny? I'm relatively new with Challenges so I don't know much about these people.

Why was Nick even casted? He's SO BORING! I think he's just a chill person who doesnt want any part of the whole social aspect of the game. That's fine in real life to be chill but it doesn't make good TV...just a wasted of space. He didn't seem to mesh well with the group at all, he looked so out of place.

Good episode, but in all honesty I feel bad for Johnny (I'm aware that I am probably an extreme minority here). I feel like he takes the heat for what are usually group descisions, because he is vocal. I think that pushing Evelyn was a heat of the moment thing. Evan and Kenny along with the majority of the team just stood their while Johnny was getting screamed at even though it seemed to be what I thought was a group descision. If it were Evan or Kenny in the deliberation instead of Johnny, one of them would probably have been the target of Wes' rage.

I think it was nice that Ev let Kelly Anne win because Ev has already won one. Wes is crazy but he does replace CT. I don't think Kelly Anne will stay with him. She is way too hot. I like Kelly Anne, she is my favorite chick of the Real World. Johanna is nice but we really haven't seen her compete because Kenny and Evan stand up for her.

Didn't Shavoun say she was going to come back and win after The Duel 2? I hope she actually does this time.

[QUOTE=Bacchus;127354][B]Quick note[/B]: Please at least use the word "allegedly" if you are going to make a slanderous statement about a cast member. I think this "roid" conversation [strike]might be[/strike] is crossing the line being it is absolutely baseless speculation.[/QUOTE] To clarify - I wasn't accusing anyone of anything. I just wanted to know if Johnny [U]was[/U] from his statements on the aftershow. Consider it dropped!

When Johanna and Wes were still dating, Johanna posted on her myspace some of the athletic supplements or vitamins or whatever she used to get ready for challenges (Gauntlet 3 particularly). Wes gave her this advice and probably gave Kelly Anne the same advice. That's a far cry from juicing or anything like that.

i like the idea that someone brought up that if BMP wants to keep casting JEK in challenges they need to put them up against each other. then we will see how they really feel about each other. i can see that they cast them because it is helping get ratings but if they keep doing it people are going to get tired of the same ol thing happening in challenges and they will stop watching.

[QUOTE=whoadeedle;127427]i like the idea that someone brought up that if BMP wants to keep casting JEK in challenges they need to put them up against each other. then we will see how they really feel about each other. i can see that they cast them because it is helping get ratings but if they keep doing it people are going to get tired of the same ol thing happening in challenges and they will stop watching.[/QUOTE] If JEK went against each other, we all know who would be the best of the 3 ;).

Team Ev:) [url=http://remotecontrol.mtv.com/2009/10/07/the-ruins-evelyn-im-going-to-get-revenge/]The Ruins‘ Evelyn: ‘I’m Going To Get Revenge’ MTV Remote Control Blog[/url]

Johnny is a no talent hack who would get abused by any dude on the show. Darrell getting in Kelly Ann's face to get at Wes and then backing down from the fight shows he's a little punk. Kenny is literally just a fool, everything about him screams overcompensation. Wes played this the only way he could, I'm not sure how anyone could say he should have just went along with the team, he got there, saw that the deck was stacked, and made his only play, you have to be pretty silly to think he wasn't going in regardless of how he acted every single time. It's his only play to keep himself out, if the challengers can win something. But I hope Kenny stops these, i have togturn away every time he appears as the sight of him makes me ill. Go Wes!!!

The scars Wes left on Nick are nasty!ewww I got shivers that looked like a chunk was missing or a hole dang thats gross.

I hate JEK. First off, I think that Johnny and Kenny are both weak players. Put them against anyone one on one and I think they'll probably lose, Evan is a different story thought. I hate how they always seem to control the game, people need to step up and take them out. [SPOILER]How funny would it be if Evelyn sent Kenny home on FM2. I'm praying she does.[/SPOILER]

[QUOTE=RRRWJunkie;127077]I'm aware that I'm obsessed with Kenny, but how could you NOT see the appeal of him? He's a beautiful man! There aren't many men on that show that can compete with that face! :)[/QUOTE] Danny and Dunbar way way hotter - but Kenny does have a nice bod

[QUOTE=RW_Chall_Fan;127528]Danny and Dunbar way way hotter - but Kenny does have a nice bod[/QUOTE] The only way I can see anyone being attracted to Dunbar is if domestic violence is a turn on. Like in the intro to the ruins....he looks like he wants to kill someone.

[QUOTE=morris614;127530]The only way I can see anyone being attracted to Dunbar is if domestic violence is a turn on. Like in the intro to the ruins....he looks like he wants to kill someone.[/QUOTE] Just because someone has an intense personality does not make them guilty of domestic violence. Dunbar seems like a really chill guy until someone ****** him off - I'm a Mississippi guy as well and I know quite a few guys like him. We wont hit ladies but we'll beat the **** out of some dude if he smarts off - been there done that.

[QUOTE=Bacchus;127538]I'd give Dunbar the benefit of the doubt on this one. I know a few girls that have been with him and they are not living in fear... That being said, the video captured during Sydney did raise concerns.[/QUOTE] But Bacchus look who he had to live with during that season - I would have went nuts spending so much time with those girls!! I'm just saying that the majority of southern guys like myself and Dunbar would never hit a lady no matter how ****** off we were - although we do tend to punch out walls way too often haha

This episode made me love Evelyn even more than I already did. Even though I'm really sad to see her go, I think its good that she did what she felt was right. I really can't stand how her team was that sneaky. They really didn't think she'd freak out when she had to go against her best friend even though they said the "man in the sand" gets to pick who they compete against? That's pathetic. I didn't really like Susie this episode. I forget how I felt about her on her previous shows, but I'm thinking I may not have liked her.

I can just imagine Coral watching this episode and laughing her *** off at Ev thinking that what goes around comes around. Which is true, but honestly I still felt bad for Ev. Weird I went from completely disliking her to really wanting her to win and stick it to her team.

Maybe it's just because I'm an Evelyn fan, but I can't help but feel that this was different from the Beth/Coral thing. Coral didn't want Beth because she was scared to go home. Evelyn didn't want Kelly Anne because she was her friend. And Evelyn didn't even vote to put in Beth...it was all the other Vets. Furthermore, if the Champions really wanted to do the best thing for their team, they should have put Katie against KellyAnne. They already admitted that they thought Katie sucked; it would have been a win-win sitation.

[QUOTE=Runtzilla;127597]I can just imagine Coral watching this episode and laughing her *** off at Ev thinking that what goes around comes around. Which is true, but honestly I still felt bad for Ev. [B]Weird I went from completely disliking her to really wanting her to win and stick it to her team.[/B][/QUOTE] I am with you on that one! I was not sure about her on G3 and some of the comments made about big Easy were a little harsh. That was before I knew about all the editing and frankenbiting done. Since then we have seen her put into some dilemma's, the fact that she stood up for what she believed was right, moved her up big time in my book. Going against the larger part of her team had to be a hard thing to do, especially with a competitive nature.

[QUOTE=Moonpaw;127627]Maybe it's just because I'm an Evelyn fan, but I can't help but feel that this was different from the Beth/Coral thing. Coral didn't want Beth because she was scared to go home. Evelyn didn't want Kelly Anne because she was her friend. And Evelyn didn't even vote to put in Beth...it was all the other Vets. Furthermore, if the Champions really wanted to do the best thing for their team, they should have put Katie against KellyAnne. They already admitted that they thought Katie sucked; it would have been a win-win sitation.[/QUOTE]Coral didn't quit over the Beth thing. The veterans threw that mission to take Beth out. Four episodes later they threw to remove Coral by putting her up against Evelyn. Meanwhile people like Robin and Casey remained on the team. Evelyn, Evan, Kenny and the rest of them wanted Coral out over those 2 girls. Coral knew it was a forgone conclusion so she left the show and refused to play Evan and Evelyn's silly *** games. On the Ruins Evelyn also knew it was a forgone conclusion that she would lose the challenge, either by staying and throwing missions or by leaving. So she left and refused to play JEK's silly *** games. Not too different from Coral. Hypocrite, yes, but she did grow up and I commend her.

Isn't it funny that Coral hasn't done a challenge in almost 2 years and she is still being talked about like she is on this one? I always enjoy watching people stick it to their team so I would have loved to see Ev stay.

[QUOTE=ssseeeaaann;127635]Coral didn't quit over the Beth thing.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I realized after I made that post that people were probably talking about when Coral walked off, not when they put her in against Beth. I guess I just don't like Coral because whenever [I]anything[/I] doesn't go her way, she makes a big stink about it and plays the victim, but she has absolutely no problem doing that to other people and just laughs about it. I'm glad that hypocrite hasn't come back yet, because I don't think I could stand her again.

A Coral hater? That is definetly a first for me....