[QUOTE=Bacchus;88135]I'm going to "guess" Salt & Vinegar was not even born when The Real World started airing, so I'd say to take their thoughts with a grain of Salt..
For those of us old enough to watch TV when the Vegas season aired, it clearly marked a turning point in the series. This was widely covered in the media and there is little debate (in retrospect) on the subject because it was that obvious of a shift.[/QUOTE]
I was born in 1987. I was very very young but does that make my opinion less valuable?
[quote=tjhallow;88138]And thats fine. But you can't say seasons like Austin, Denver, are like Chicago, San Fransisco, B2NY. The Real World is extremely different now than it was years ago. And hey not all of the earlier seasons were good. Some people loved Chicago some people thought it was boring. Some people like Paris, some people thought it was boring. Whatever, but seasons like B2NY, San Fransisco, were not party seasons and they did well.
And I wasn't talking about your sister and uncle, did you watch the earlier seasons?[/quote]
What's funny is that I mentally group Paris in with the earlier seasons, despite it being the first season after Las Vegas. I think of it as a last hurrah, of sorts, for the structure of the early seasons.
And I would like to say that I was also born in 1987.
[quote=salt&vinegar;88140]I was born in 1987. I was very very young but does that make my opinion less valuable?[/quote]
No but unless you have watched some of the earlier seasons, you can't compare them.
[QUOTE=tjhallow;88138]And thats fine. But you can't say seasons like Austin, Denver, are like Chicago, San Fransisco, B2NY. The Real World is extremely different now than it was years ago. And hey not all of the earlier seasons were good. Some people loved Chicago some people thought it was boring. Some people like Paris, some people thought it was boring. Whatever, but seasons like B2NY, San Fransisco, were not party seasons and they did well.
And I wasn't talking about your sister and uncle, did you watch the earlier seasons?[/QUOTE]
I have seen episodes where they taped them on VHS and I very much so enjoyed B2NY, Paris, and Hawaii. I saw bits of Boston and London and they were okay.
[quote=brannon;88142]What's funny is that I mentally group Paris in with the earlier seasons, despite it being the first season after Las Vegas. I think of it as a last hurrah, of sorts, for the structure of the early seasons.
And I would like to say that I was also born in 1987.
I started watching very, very young.[/quote]
Well, I heard Paris was more like the serious seasons but I didn't watch much of it, because I thought it was boring.
San Diego was a good season though.
[QUOTE=tjhallow;88146]Well, I heard Paris was more like the serious seasons but I didn't watch much of it, because I thought it was boring.
San Diego was a good season though.[/QUOTE]
Paris is easier to compare to B2NY than Denver.
[quote=salt&vinegar;88149]Paris is easier to compare to B2NY than Denver.[/quote]
Doesn't matter, IMO Denver is the worst season of the RW to date. It out trashed Las Vegas. No offense but your not going to change my opinion or anyone else's about how they feel about the Real World. Most of us on here have been watching since the early seasons, and if we haven't, we caught them else where.
And I do like party seasons, but I would rather watch a season like B2NY than Denver.
I find it interesting that salt&vinegar and I were both born in the same year, yet have such contrasting views on the history of the show. I would assume it has to do with the point at which we began watching.
[QUOTE=tjhallow;88153]Doesn't matter, IMO Denver is the worst season of the RW to date. It out trashed Las Vegas. No offense but your not going to change my opinion or anyone else's about how they feel about the Real World. Most of us on here have been watching since the early seasons, and if we haven't, we caught them else where.
And I do like party seasons, but I would rather watch a season like B2NY than Denver.[/QUOTE]
I never tried to change anyones mind. I only wanted my opinion to be argued because it seems very unrepresented on these forums. I enjoy being on Vevmo and just want every view to be shown. I respect everyone for their opinion and just ask to get the same respect.
[quote=salt&vinegar;88160]I never tried to change anyones mind. I only wanted my opinion to be argued because it seems very unrepresented on these forums. I enjoy being on Vevmo and just want every view to be shown. I respect everyone for their opinion and just ask to get the same respect.[/quote]
I respect your opinion but you seem to think that the RW was always like Las Vegas? At least thats what I seem to be getting from your posts, and thats not how it was at all.
It sounds to me like salt&vinegar is trying to say is that they didn't feel Brooklyn really recaptured the old school RW feel like a lot of people felt it did. He/she has watched older seasons as well, judging by the posts.
I don't know if any newer season will ever come across like, say, the first seven seasons.
[quote=RW561015;88164] I don't know if any newer season will ever come across like, say, the first seven seasons.[/quote]
I think one could... with better editing! I enjoyed Brooklyn a lot.. but all the guys against girls stuff got real old real quick. I'm sure there was a lot more interesting stuff that could have been used!
[QUOTE=tjhallow;88163]I respect your opinion but you seem to think that the RW was always like Las Vegas? At least thats what I seem to be getting from your posts, and thats not how it was at all.[/QUOTE]
Thank you. I dont in any way think that the older seasons are even close to Vegas. They are different but you must admit they do have some similarities. Las Vegas did discuss real issues but the party, party, party aspect is what is remembered.
[QUOTE=DANDELION;88166]I think one could... with better editing! I enjoyed Brooklyn a lot.. but all the guys against girls stuff got real old real quick. I'm sure there was a lot more interesting stuff that could have been used![/QUOTE]
I totally agree. In a radio interview I heard with Baya she said she was having panic attacks but that never got shown.
I was born in 1990 and have only been watching The Real World since Paris, and I have to say that I REALLY enjoyed Brooklyn. I'm not a big fan of watching people hook up and get drunk all the time, and since I was REALLY young when most Real World seasons were similar to Brooklyn, I just thought the show was all about partying and whatnot. That's why I was always more into Road Rules because that's not all they did.
I have no idea if any of that even made sense. I just agree with those who said that article that talked about Cancun bringing the show back to its roots was way off, because while I didn't watch the earlier seasons, I know it used to be a more meaningful show and not just about hooking up and being trashy.
[QUOTE=brannon;88156]I find it interesting that salt&vinegar and I were both born in the same year, yet have such contrasting views on the history of the show. I would assume it has to do with the point at which we began watching.[/QUOTE]
I think it more to do with our own personal preferences.
I honestly think that Cancun is going to be more like Las Vegas than anything else. They're both cities known for partying, so there's no way that Cancun could go back to the "roots" of the Real World when it's probably going to be like the season that pretty much changed the direction of the Real World. I do think that seasons like Paris and Philadelphia were better than, say, Austin and Denver, because even though people called them "boring", they weren't as heavily focused on partying and hooking up as Austin, Denver, etc. (I didn't really watch Hollywood and for some reason can't classify Sydney--I seem to be one of the only people who really liked Sydney but that's probably because I identify with Parisa a lot). Philadelphia is actually my favorite season post-Vegas because it was fun to watch because they did go out but there was very little trash factor involved, and it had interesting, intelligent people on it who did have issues with themselves and each other that they worked out and addressed.
[quote=behindme;88208]I do think that seasons like Paris and Philadelphia were better than, say, Austin and Denver, because even though people called them "boring", they weren't as heavily focused on partying and hooking up as Austin, Denver, etc. (I didn't really watch Hollywood and for some reason can't classify Sydney--I seem to be one of the only people who really liked Sydney but that's probably because I identify with Parisa a lot). Philadelphia is actually my favorite season post-Vegas because it was fun to watch because they did go out but there was very little trash factor involved, and it had interesting, intelligent people on it who did have issues with themselves and each other that they worked out and addressed.[/quote]
Nice to see someone else feels the same way I do about the Philadelphia season! I can see why some people found it boring, because I did at first myself, but it got more interesting after a while. Something about that cast really endeared them to me by the end. They did have issues and weren't just focused only on partying and hooking up. There were genuine emotional attachments. And they were all different people. And even though they all had annoying and bad moments, by the end, I personally didn't feel anyone was an absolutely hideous person overall from what I saw (though some worked the nerves). Those are the things that I feel makes it stand out some among later seasons. It's my favorite post Vegas season as well. I think it suffered a little in audience perception because it was after San Diego, and so many people loved that season, and it was chock full of memorable things it sounds like. And if you didn't watch Philadelphia after a few episodes, you would have missed some of the better things.
I didn't see Paris. I thought it looked dull, and I don't consistently watch the show when it's airing. However, I do have some interest in seeing it now, especially because of CT and because of the things people have said about this season. And it's a pre Austin season, so it may have a different feel to it, one I may prefer more.
So here's a question... How many people go into this show with a boyfriend or girlfriend and end up staying faithful to them?
I can think of Sarah from Hollywood and I'm sure there are others... I just can't think of any.
[QUOTE=Lamb Chop!!!;89160]So here's a question... How many people go into this show with a boyfriend or girlfriend and end up staying faithful to them?
I can think of Sarah from Hollywood and I'm sure there are others... I just can't think of any.[/QUOTE]
Dunbar!...jk I just had to do that for fun lol. I think Svetlana, Shauvon, Sarah from Brooklyn, Ryan. I don't know about the older seasons.
[QUOTE=Lamb Chop!!!;89160]So here's a question... How many people go into this show with a boyfriend or girlfriend and end up staying faithful to them?
I can think of Sarah from Hollywood and I'm sure there are others... I just can't think of any.[/QUOTE]
Ryan from Brooklyn
Lacey from Austin
Svetlana (I think?)
Tonya, I believe.
That's all I can think of. I'm sure in the earlier seasons more people did but I can only think of so many. There were some who technically were still dating their bf/gf by the end of the show but had hooked up with others on the show heh.
[QUOTE=dplayer18;89168]Dunbar!...jk I just had to do that for fun lol. I think Svetlana, Shauvon, Sarah from Brooklyn, Ryan. I don't know about the older seasons.[/QUOTE]
Shauvon was broken up when she went....she made out with Isaac in the confessional when they first got there.
[QUOTE=dplayer18;89168]Dunbar!...jk I just had to do that for fun lol. I think Svetlana, Shauvon, Sarah from Brooklyn, Ryan. I don't know about the older seasons.[/QUOTE]
Sarah from Hollywood. She naver actually cheated on him.
[QUOTE=Stacee_Danielle;89212]Shauvon was broken up when she went....she made out with Isaac in the confessional when they first got there.[/QUOTE]
Oh I forgot about that. Now I remember she made up with him before she left the show.
[QUOTE=Stacee_Danielle;89212]Shauvon was broken up when she went....she made out with Isaac in the confessional when they first got there.[/QUOTE]
I think that was the same time Issac said "Cheers to big rears" lol.
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