[quote=OtherPplsDrama;25177]I think Bacc is right on w/ the OBGYN thing. I mean, c'mon, Nicole is an OBGYN, and the clue is G BOY N?? Hello D....you can't deny that one ;)
Maybe it means though, that she is the winner, not the one eliminated.[/quote]
That is my point. I know she is an OBGYN, but just because the clue is like that, it doesn't necessarily mean she is eliminated.
[quote]Maybe that [I]is [/I]why they chose him. The mole has to throw missions right? Everyone else would assume it's because he's fat and out of shape, not because he must be the mole.[/quote]
That is exactly why they picked him. Nobody is going to be upset with him messing up the missions. They figure it is due to his lack of physical abilities. Why wouldn't that be reason to chose him to be the Mole.
[quote=Dartagnan;25201]
That is exactly why they picked him. Nobody is going to be upset with him messing up the missions. They figure it is due to his lack of physical abilities. Why wouldn't that be reason to chose him to be the Mole.[/quote]
It's a cop out in my opinion, if that is what the plan was from the beginning. Why not pick someone to be the mole who has to choose when to fail and succeed at missions rather than someone who is only able to fail...?
[quote=killer_tofu;25222]It's a cop out in my opinion, if that is what the plan was from the beginning. Why not pick someone to be the mole who has to choose when to fail and succeed at missions rather than someone who is only able to fail...?[/quote]
Isn't that what the point is? The Mole is never supposed to help them in the missions. The only time they ever do is when all the suspicion is on them and they need to take it off of them. Craig has never once stepped up in a mission and he has never done good in anything that doesn't involve physical activity. He is always stepping up to be in the "dumb group" not allowing the group to decide. Easy sabotage. Mark will go in any group and has stepped up tremendously.
I won't be here right after to gloat/take my medicine. I am going to record The Mole and watch Phelps go for his third gold (10:18 PM) live.
...but to chime in with KT in agreement, is it really sabotage when you can't do it in the first place?
[quote=Dartagnan;25224]Isn't that what the point is? The Mole is never supposed to help them in the missions. The only time they ever do is when all the suspicion is on them and they need to take it off of them. Craig has never once stepped up in a mission and he has never done good in anything that doesn't involve physical activity. He is always stepping up to be in the "dumb group" not allowing the group to decide. Easy sabotage. Mark will go in any group and has stepped up tremendously.[/quote]
I know that's the point of the mole, but I just don't think it makes for good tv when you bring someone in to be the mole who can only fail... Then it wouldn't be sabotage by the mole, it would be him being unable to actually do well in a mission...
[quote=Bacchus;25226]I won't be here right after to gloat/take my medicine. I am going to record The Mole and watch Phelps go for his third gold (10:18 PM) live.
...but to chime in with KT in agreement, is it really sabotage when you can't do it in the first place?[/quote]
No, but there have been missions when you don't need to be running and lifting. Some of these missions are just about observation, being able to count well, searching for buildings, etc. and he still hasn't been able to performt those either.
[quote]I know that's the point of the mole, but I just don't think it makes for good tv when you bring someone in to be the mole who can only fail... Then it wouldn't be sabotage by the mole, it would be him being unable to actually do well in a mission...[/quote]
Refer to the part above. He doesn't need to be in tip-top shape to perform all these missions. Does bungee-jumping have anything to do with running/hiking abilities? No. And him being overweight is perfect for the people in the game. He is a big suspect because he doesn't do wll, but then he isn't because size is working against him. It is a perfect mixture of both.
[quote=Bacchus;25226]I won't be here right after to gloat/take my medicine. I am going to record The Mole and watch Phelps go for his third gold (10:18 PM) live.
...but to chime in with KT in agreement, [B][I]is it really sabotage when you can't do it in the first place?[/I][/B][/quote]
Jinx!
[quote=Dartagnan;25228]No, but there have been missions when you don't need to be running and lifting. Some of these missions are just about observation, being able to count well, searching for buildings, etc. and he still hasn't been able to performt those either.[/quote]
I do believe him and Bobby and one other person who I can't remember right now found their clothes at the drycleaner in one of the missions...
[quote=killer_tofu;25231]I do believe him and Bobby and one other person who I can't remember right now found their clothes at the drycleaner in one of the missions...[/quote]
Pure luck. How do you know it wasn't Bobby or the other person who led them that way. Plus, Craig was the one looking at the card and when Jon told them about the clue on the card Craig even mentioned that he should have noticed that. It would have saved them a lot of trouble. Craig noticing it at the dinner table after the mission is quite funny.
[quote=killer_tofu;25222]It's a cop out in my opinion, if that is what the plan was from the beginning. Why not pick someone to be the mole who has to choose when to fail and succeed at missions[B] rather than someone who is only able to fail...?[/B][/quote]
Aww, that might not be true...
[quote=OtherPplsDrama;25238]Aww, that might not be true...[/quote]
OPD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We were right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yay us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hahah Bacchus you thought you could fool us. We were right all along.
[quote=Dartagnan;25239]OPD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We were right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yay us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hahah Bacchus you thought you could fool us. We were right all along.[/quote]
Holy F are you kidding me?!?!?!?!? :girl_haha: :lol2:
I can't believe it......
D....I'd say we deserve this.:drinks:
:)
[quote=OtherPplsDrama;25240]Holy F are you kidding me?!?!?!?!? :girl_haha: :lol2:
I can't believe it......
D....I'd say we deserve this.:drinks:
:)[/quote]
I know! We do deserve it. Congratulations to me and OPD!
OOHHH Bacchus, where are you?
[quote=Dartagnan;25241]I know! We do deserve it. Congratulations to me and OPD!
[B] OOHHH Bacchus, where are you?[/B][/quote]
It's not polite to gloat ;)
[quote=Dartagnan;25241]I know! We do deserve it. Congratulations to me and OPD!
OOHHH Bacchus, where are you?[/quote]
I hope he isn't reading this thread! He said he was recording the mole and watching the olympics instead. And you guys know how B is about spoilers!
P.s. OPD, what stock should I buy? ;)
[quote=killer_tofu;25243]I hope he isn't reading this thread! He said he was recording the mole and watching the olympics instead. And you guys know how B is about spoilers!
P.s. OPD, what stock should I buy? ;)[/quote]
B won't even open this thread again I'm sure until he watches it. He knows better! :)
[quote=OtherPplsDrama;25244]B won't even open this thread again I'm sure until he watches it. He knows better! :)[/quote]
Yeah, but all of these posts are showing up on the recent threads at the top of the forum home page...
[quote=Dartagnan;25248]Well I am sorry if he takes the gloating hard.
Stay strong Bacchus. Did anyone of the executed players guess it completely right?[/quote]
Yes... But I couldn't begin to tell you who and when...
P.s. Anyone good with photoshop? ;)
[quote=killer_tofu;25250]Yes... But I couldn't begin to tell you who and when...
P.s. Anyone good with photoshop? ;)[/quote]
Thank you for that bit of info. There is always one executed player who gets it right.
And no I happen to suck with photoshop.
[quote=RockSteadyVybes;25531]PS...you can watch seasons 1 and 2 on YouTube in full.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/user/moleclassic"]YouTube - moleclassic's Channel[/URL][/quote]
Thanks I will have to check it out before it disappears and yeah I was a little disappointed with the Mole even though I pretty much missed all the clues even during my season catch up.
[quote=GoldenWarrior;25533]Thanks I will have to check it out before it disappears and yeah I was a little disappointed with the Mole even though I pretty much missed all the clues even during my season catch up.[/quote]
The only thing I was disappointed about was the fact that, it didn't matter who the Mole was, I could probably point out every sabotage they did. And when Craig came out I knew how he did it. I just didn't know his strategy. Wasn't it amazing how incredibly hard the clues were? Before this season, I could always find one but never figure out what it mean, but this season left me flabbergasted when it revealed the hidden clues.
[quote=RockSteadyVybes;25530][spoiler]MARK IS NOT THE MOLE HAHAHAHAHA[/spoiler]
Sorry, I had to.[/quote]
Hahahaha.
Anyone notice how Bacchus hasn't said anything on this thread yet?
[quote=killer_tofu;25548]Hahahaha.
Anyone notice how Bacchus hasn't said anything on this thread yet?[/quote]
And I don't think he will....LoL.
I asked him if he watched it but my questions were ignored or avoided ;)
What can I say, the reveal was so disappointing I didn't immediately have words to describe the bad taste in my mouth.
Craig basically did [B]NOTHING[/B] as the mole, literally.
I mean, come on! One of the "sabotage" moments was when Mark shot him in paint ball? Wasn't that just because he is a 300 lb slug? Another being the clay piggy challenge where he was so winded he could hardly talk, let alone jog? Is it really "mole like" behavior when you are a jumping jack away from a heart attack?
As [URL="http://vevmo.com/f224/mole-season-4-abc-1759/#post14223"]I said on day one[/URL], Craig was the [I]most obvious[/I] Mole and my initial pick. I just didn't want him to be, as what is the point of having a guy who couldn't win anything in the first place, "fail?"
I feel duped as the mole didn't act like the mole. He just was himself. A grossly overweight underachiever. What fun is that? I am glad the finale pulled in horrid numbers (2.97 Million Viewers.) It will not be returning...
As for all you "gloaters" - I'd probably look good right now too [URL="http://vevmo.com/f224/mole-season-4-abc-1759/#post14561"]if my pick was eliminated in June[/URL]...
Oh Ya, [URL="http://vevmo.com/f224/mole-season-4-abc-1759/index3.html#post16181"]KT[/URL] - [URL="http://vevmo.com/f224/mole-season-4-abc-1759/index3.html#post16435"]Rock[/URL] - and more [URL="http://vevmo.com/f224/mole-season-4-abc-1759/index4.html#post16938"]Dart[/URL] riding the [B]fail train. [/B]
[URL="http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=268"][IMG]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/148a31724d938c.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
Much like Paul, I was actually the [B]only one here[/B] to even have Craig on my radar for the [I]first 7 weeks[/I] of the series!
[quote=Bacchus;25621]What can I say, the reveal was so disappointing I didn't immediately have words to describe the bad taste in my mouth.
Craig basically did NOTHING as the mole, literally.
I mean, come on! One of the "sabotage" moments was when Mark shot him in paint ball? Wasn't that just because he is a 300 lb slug? Another being the clay piggy challenge where he was so winded he could hardly talk, let alone jog? Is it really "mole like" behavior when you are a jumping jack away from a heart attack?
As [URL="http://vevmo.com/f224/mole-season-4-abc-1759/#post14223"]I said on day one[/URL], Craig was the most obvious Mole and my initial pick. I just didn't want him to be, as what is the point of having a guy who couldn't win anything in the first place, "fail?"
I feel duped as the mole didn't act like the mole. He just was himself. A grossly overweight underachiever. What fun is that? I am glad the finale pulled in horrid numbers (2.97 Million Viewers.) It will not be returning...
As for all you "gloaters" - I'd probably look good right now too [URL="http://vevmo.com/f224/mole-season-4-abc-1759/#post14561"]if my pick was eliminated in June[/URL]...
Oh Ya, [URL="http://vevmo.com/f224/mole-season-4-abc-1759/index3.html#post16181"]KT[/URL] - [URL="http://vevmo.com/f224/mole-season-4-abc-1759/index3.html#post16435"]Rock[/URL] - and more [URL="http://vevmo.com/f224/mole-season-4-abc-1759/index4.html#post16938"]Dart[/URL] riding the fail train.
Much like Paul, I was actually the [B]only one here[/B] to even have Craig on my radar for the [I]first 7 weeks[/I] of the series![/quote]
He had to have done something Bacchus.. he was the Mole. And he had most of them guessing for weeks.
As for him sabotaging, he just made himself an easier target to get hit. He knew he had an exemption on him so why try hard to keep it safe? The piggy mission was sabotaged also by him putting Bobby in the wheel chair. Someone has to wheel him and someone would have to carry all the piggies. Doesn't it make you look less suspicious if you are a jumping jack away from a heart attack?
And how do you know Craig wouldn't have won? This game has absolutely nothing do with the missions. It is how well of an observer, how you can read people, and how much you can remember and play the game. Craig is an obvious Mole, but if your guess Mark was too, he could have been just as obvious.
But Craig's job was just to stump everyone. He wasn't there to trick everybody because it will never happen. And it was great strategy for him to act himself.
Yeah my first pick was eliminated early in Kristen, but at least I changed my answer to Craig and not the winner. :)
Good debate.
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