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So wait a minute, Johnny told the person who's using that account the order of the finalists?
I thought Johnny wasn't allowed to do that since that account is being used by someone that ISN'T a cast member.
Can someone please explain this
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[QUOTE=JL81790;292352]It could be wishful thinking on his part...but why say 2nd specifically rather than that Johnny (or Ty) just beat him?[/QUOTE]
He probably got his info from Townie’s post here. The timing of his tweet is kinda suspect. Townie did not specify how the rest of the finalists placed so the JEK jerk can’t say that Johnny or TY beat him.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;292356]Camila also had that tweet to Paula immediately after getting home where she sounded extremely excited and that she had something big to tell her. [/QUOTE]
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Has anyone figured this one out yet? Even Paula is at a loss.
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That is nuts if Johnny told JEKempire, not that he did. All the sudden he is talking about CT being a silver medalist, right after the podcast airs where he could have talked to Johnny about his thoughts on the podcast and Johnny spilled or Kenny relayed what Johnny spilled to him. Just speculating, but come on what an idiot if he did tell him.
He does tweet about 10 insults to CT a week, but what he said with the podcast just airing, a bit suspect. Those tweets seem like something you would only say if you know, otherwise you would look like a complete moron.
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You know, guys, for the longest time I suspected that JEKempire was run by Johnny Bananas because of the prose and manner in which he spoke. And I do think that he gives this guy's specific information because JEKempire mentioned something very specific, regarding a person, that an average follower just wouldn't know about unless he were present there. I have said before and will repeat it, JEK should be severely sanctioned for their behavior.
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Just random guesses of Camila's word:
shaken, swollen, starvation(O.o), stolen, I don't know....out of those words I'd guess swollen, meaning it was really, really challenging, which I don't think bodes well for Ty.
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[QUOTE=Marmk122;292366]Just random guesses of Camila's word:
shaken, swollen, starvation(O.o), stolen, i don't know....out of those words I'd guess swollen, meaning it was really, really challenging, which i dont think bodes well for ty.[/QUOTE]
I'm taking a big shot here but maybe 1st place was stolen from them? lol idk
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[QUOTE=wth101;292368]im taking a big shot here but maybe 1st place was stolen from them? lol idk[/QUOTE]
Yeah that is why I put it in there. There are so many words out there, and Camila not having perfect English, could make it even wider.
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[QUOTE=Marmk122;292369]Yeah that is why I put it in there. There are so many words out there, and Camila not having perfect English, could make it even wider.[/QUOTE]
Didn't she mention that it was a good thing? If so disregard my previous post.
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[QUOTE=wth101;292370]Didn't she mention that it was a good thing? If so disregard my previous post.[/QUOTE]
Not necessarily, she just said "one word. starts with an S and ends with an N @paulawalnuts now. go."
Most people think it's positive but I find it to be indifferent really.
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[QUOTE=Marmk122;292372]Not necessarily, she just said "one word. starts with an S and ends with an N @paulawalnuts now. go."
Most people think it's positive but I find it to be indifferent really.[/QUOTE]
That's because the poster left out the Tweet before that one where Camila said she had something huge to tell her and they both sounded excited.
EDIT: It appears as if that tweet has been deleted, but I specifically remember he saying prior to this that she had something huge to tell Paula.
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[QUOTE=Marmk122;292372]Not necessarily, she just said "one word. starts with an S and ends with an N @paulawalnuts now. go." [/QUOTE]
To be fair...Camila and Paula were both in NYC on December 10th when that tweet went out. You know what occurred on December 10th? [B]S[/B]antaco[B]n[/B]. Paula tweeted the next day that it was insane.
It could be any number of things. It could be a cryptic message. It could just be an inside joke between the two of them.
I think you guys are completely overanalyzing things. Coming from me, that's saying something.
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[QUOTE=molds13;292377]To be fair...Camila and Paula were both in NYC on December 10th when that tweet went out. You know what occurred on December 10th? [B]S[/B]antaco[B]n[/B]. Paula tweeted the next day that it was insane.
It could be any number of things. It could be a cryptic message. It could just be an inside joke between the two of them.
I think you guys are completely overanalyzing things. Coming from me, that's saying something.[/QUOTE]
I think it's mostly because if three sources really did say CT didn't win and this is true, knowing Johnny's history with Twitter and the probability that Kenny/Evan know who won already, it just seems like things are pointing to him like they did with Rivals. This is Camila in this case, but I guess the majority of people just don't want to see Johnny win again and think that every little detail points to him winning.
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[QUOTE=molds13;292377]
I think you guys are completely overanalyzing things. Coming from me, that's saying something.[/QUOTE]
Cara Maria practically gives stuff away to us here on her formspring lol. Someone asked her is Camila as good as they say on the podcast. And she said (in a general response to people asking her about this specific podcast) that people who go on the podcasts have hindsight and know what happens, that and Johnny's tweets says a lot. If he lost, he wouldn't be so enthused for his fans to see it. He's too arrogant. And he was the same way with Rivals.
Anyway, I hope they or Ty/Emily win. I was rooting for CT/Diem but after reading a bunch post about how there's no way anyone could beat CT and how this is CT's challenge to win, he doesn't have competition blah blah blah... CT was no longer the underdog in my eyes so he goes to the bottom for me lol It was great to root for him on Rivals but not anymore.
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[QUOTE=wth101;292367]Do any of you guys believe CT got 2nd place? I know there isn't enough info but people already saying or implying that he got 2nd.[/QUOTE]
Has anyone reading this thread actually mushed? One thing I know from a couple of decades of following The Iditarod Trail Sled Dog Race(R) is that every dog team is different. Thus, there are random variables introduced into the competition, the sled and the dog team. No doubt the sleds are as similar as possible, but the dogs will always be the wild card. The best execs pair, whomever you think that may be, could have randomly been given the weakest dog team.
If nothing else, the influence of the dogs should complicate your thinking.
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[QUOTE=V1man;292388]Has anyone reading this thread actually mushed? One thing I know from a couple of decades of following The Iditarod Trail Sled Dog Race(R) is that every dog team is different. Thus, there are random variables introduced into the competition, the sled and the dog team. No doubt the sleds are as similar as possible, but the dogs will always be the wild card. The best execs pair, whomever you think that may be, could have randomly been given the weakest dog team.
If nothing else, the influence of the dogs should complicate your thinking.[/QUOTE]
The TAR rule: if given the option, NEVER work with animals!!
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Yep based on what Cara Maria said on the formspring, I think I'm completely convinced and very disappointed. Maybe Derrick should have gotten other people who aren't close to Johnny on it, they're obviously not going to talk all this **** just to eat their words after.
Also when CM does this ".............." I think it means the opposite of what the person is saying, so maybe Abram acts immature and starts fights and back stabs people. Or it could be a spoiler that she doesn't comment on, lol those two things just contradicted each other and I'm probably over analyzing but it's one or the other, she could have just ignored it haha but her "............" answers on Rivals was usually in response to correct statements.
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[QUOTE=V1man;292388]Has anyone reading this thread actually mushed? One thing I know from a couple of decades of following The Iditarod Trail Sled Dog Race(R) is that every dog team is different. Thus, there are random variables introduced into the competition, the sled and the dog team. No doubt the sleds are as similar as possible, but the dogs will always be the wild card. The best execs pair, whomever you think that may be, could have randomly been given the weakest dog team.
If nothing else, the influence of the dogs should complicate your thinking.[/QUOTE]
Lol haha no I did read the previous pages before posting but I typed the question wrong. My fault sorry. Just wanted more opinions on the rumors about CT getting 2nd.
And erodwhtboy I'm hoping the dog sled part will only be a short distance.
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The dog sled part looks to me like it could be when a team gets to the checkpoint 1st they get the headstart. CT & Diem got 2 minute head start of Johnny & Camila, Johnny & Camila got a 1 minute head start on Ty & Emily because even at that point Ty & Emily are in last they're not that far behind, the race is close.
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I was sticking with CT/Diem until proven otherwise. Based on CM's formspring responses to the post asking about Camilla being good, tweets from JEKempire, and the podcast, I'd say for my personal guess that CT/Diem got 2nd, Johnny/Camilla first, and Ty/Emily third.
I really don't want to see that happen though. I knew CT/Adam lost on Rivals, but it still sucked seeing them lose even though i knew in advance, and knowing it could happen again uggggh
Gotta say though, if this final is near Rivals on difficulty level, Johnny may have the two most impressive final wins back to back.
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The final challenges on this and Rivals look pretty stupid. Rivals with Wes and Kenny getting a huge lead for nothing.And this challenge racing with dogs in the snow, is the next final gonna be riding a bear through a cave. Come on, where are the old finals where you straight up raced and had check points to complete and stuff. There's too many elements that could go wrong with sled racing dogs through the snow, like your dog getting hurt which can screw you.
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I really hope Johnny/Camila win even though it seems everyone is pulling against them haha. But honestly from all the tweets and podcasts I can't tell who won at all.
Also I'm really anxious to see what they are going to be showing on mtv this Wednesday.
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[QUOTE=wth101;292411]considering if CT aligned with Johnny, i don't see why Ct would do that especially after all the *** he said to him on Rivals.[/QUOTE]
Any alliance is better than no alliance. If CT thinks he is better than Johnny and would beat him in a Final it would make since to join in an alliance with him and bring him to the end.
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Well CT/Diem and Johnny/Camila are probably two of the top teams. It makes sense for CT to align with the best teams to keep his team safe when they lose challenges.
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Hmm true. If CT thought aligning with Johnny would get him in the final and lose, Johnny will be talking so much smack how he defeated CT again...(sorry, love talking bout CT :D)
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[QUOTE=wth101;292422]...(sorry, love talking bout CT :D)[/QUOTE]
I can dig it! Yes lawd :D!!
Poor Johnny had to hold his own for once, how unfair, wah.
CT has always been strong and super competitive on these challenges albeit wacko at times of alcohol. On the last challenge it took 5 (JEK + 2) to lift that swan to put on Mandi's bed yet CT lifted with ease alone.
Looks like the JEK empire has been downgraded to a village and they seem to be tweeting nervously about Johnny carrying the torch to win without help, very telling. IMO JEK is either a distant cousin or homebound fan who met one of them once or twice. He doesn't seem to ever have the facts, just his own skewed superfan perspective so IMO his tweets are moot.
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[QUOTE=Nightwolf;292423]With all of the discussion going on, I have a feeling now that I think [B]we're all[/b] gonna look like idiots and Ty and Emily won[/QUOTE]
What's this we, Batman?
I, for one, have steered clear of anything regarding a winner for multiple reasons - one being potentially looking like an idiot.
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[QUOTE=molds13;292425]What's this we, Batman?
I, for one, have steered clear of anything regarding a winner for multiple reasons - one being potentially looking like an idiot.[/QUOTE]
I meant more-so the people who are arguing between whether Johnny or CT won, when there's a 3rd team in it that most people have written off already.
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[QUOTE=Nightwolf;292423]With all of the discussion going on, I have a feeling now that I think we're all gonna look like idiots and Ty and Emily won[/QUOTE]
That would be awesome, I have no problem looking like an idiot if they win lol. For me as of right now I'm thinking Johnny, if Ty is praised as if he's superman on the podcast then it would sway me to Ty/Emily. When the F is part 2 going to be up!
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I really hope Johnny can win this one. Most people don't think he is a good competitor and I think he can finally prove that he doesn't need Kenny and Evan to win a challenge.
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I respect that Johnny does whatever it takes to win. Getting the money is why everyone is there if you have to cut deals, make alliances, cheat, lie throw people under the bus whatever it takes to get the job done. This challenge may prove he would even make a alliance with one of the guys he hates in CT to win.
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I wonder why Diem still isn't following CT on twitter. I mean it's twitter so I usually wouldn't look too much into it, but this ***** follows celebrities' pet dogs for ******'s sake. Even if ct degraded her the whole season, she still would be following him if they managed to pull out a win. Maybe they came in third and CT was all pissed or something?
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[QUOTE=Infinite;292434]I wonder why Diem still isn't following CT on twitter. I mean it's twitter so I usually wouldn't look too much into it, but this ***** follows celebrities' pet dogs for ******'s sake. Even if ct degraded her the whole season, she still would be following him if they managed to pull out a win. Maybe they came in third and CT was all pissed or something?[/QUOTE]
Sorry, this just doesn't make sense to people who know Diem. She didn't know it was going to be an exes challenge and didn't know she was going to be paired with CT. It's not like she was reading vevmo...of if she did, that she believed the speculation. She was, and is, completely focused on Medigift, the charity she founded.
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What are you talking about. She's actively following and tweeting her fellow cast mates, some whom she had no association with prior to filming. She's clearly not following CT on purpose, it has nothing to do with being focused on work. You don't have to know her to realize she's just like every other disgruntled estranged ex girlfriend.
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To me it doesn't mean anything towards who won, but she was following CT on twitter early this week, than stopped. The reason she did whether he blocked her like someone said he does,or she unfollowed, to me has nothing to do with if they won since it wasn't right after they got home. But in the last week she was following him, and no longer is. I don't believe he ever followed her, at least in relation to this challenge. I just think it does mean they really didn't resolve any issues, win or not. It's not an easy situation since they are one of the few "exes" who legit dated.
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Is everyone seriously reading this much into Derrick's last podcast? They didn't say anything they haven't said dozens of times already on the podcast.... CT's done this show how many times and not won? Fact and they say it every time his name comes up. Abe's a weirdo who misses rules and doesn't go to the gym? Again, every time. Dunbar has no social game and ****s the bed? Every time. Johnny ****** everyone off and usually needs their help to get the money? Every time.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say they repeat themselves so many times that new information doesn't impact their usual speeches. I'm not taking anything as news unless molds posts it.
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[QUOTE=Infinite;292453]She was never following him, I checked every two days. Pics or it never happened.[/QUOTE]
Life does occur between those two days you are not checking btw, but it's fine if you don't believe it because it didn't give anything away. I am not a twitter person besides checking here and there, but she definitely was following him for a few days but that really doesn't matter on the whole conversation about who won. I am not sure it shows history of actions on twitter or not where it can be proven, so take it for how you want. I even had a PM chat with Blue about it, but like I said it doesn't add anything or give anything away, I just thought it was odd she did for a few days/week and then didn't. Someone on here posted how he blocks her after challenges, so that could be what happened, but like I said I have no clue.
It's a spoiler discussion, they never messaged each other or RT'ed each other, so it doesn't matter IMO. You can feel believe it or not, I just hope CT/Diem won. But I don't think they did. Sounds like no one knows, which should make this an exciting season. But I stand by she did follow him briefly after they got home, he hasn't done a thing on twitter since the show, so it really to me gave away nothing. Diem thanking MTV for helping with Med gift to me means she at least moneyed, but I don't know the rules so 3rd could have won something. So basically it solved nothing :)
To me they are talking on the podcast how CT can't win for whatever reason, Johnny has really improved himself, and we will see what they say about Ty. But vibes I got were CT/Diem got 2nd, Johnny/Camila first. I will be surprised if they didn't win, but we will see. They did same type thing on Rivals on the pre podcast, so I go by that. If they would have said one nice thing about CT I would have thought they could have won. Like CM said on formspring, they know the result so why would they make themselves look dumb by trashing CT if he won?
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Also after some one said to CM on her formspring that Evan/Kenny pretty much gave away the winner, she said what did you expect! She could have just ignored the question but that answer kinda makes me think she thought it was out in the open now. And yeah Kenny/Evan are not going on the podcast to set them selves up to look like idiots and before rivals they talked the same way and it ended up being spoilers.
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[QUOTE=Blue123;292456]Also after some one said to CM on her formspring that Evan/Kenny pretty much gave away the winner, she said what did you expect! She could have just ignored the question but that answer kinda makes me think she thought it was out in the open now. And yeah Kenny/Evan are not going on the podcast to set them selves up to look like idiots and before rivals they talked the same way and it ended up being spoilers.[/QUOTE]
Hehe I was actually the one that asked that question, after hearing the podcast and seeing that tweet about 2nd place being the first loser. I was staring to think that JEK had directly had told that empire guy the orders of the finalists, which would have been BS for legal reasons.
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[QUOTE=Infinite;292453]She was never following him, I checked every two days. Pics or it never happened.[/QUOTE]
This isn't reddit. "Pics or it didn't happen" doesn't work here. Being respectful to other people will get you further on this site (and in life).
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I knew from the start and reveal of the cast that Johnny & Camilla would be the potential winners. Not because they are incredible players or popular; just instinct. Nothing goes peachy on this show. The people "we" want to win never win unless we're taken by surprise. A lot of people immediately wanted Mark/Robin or CT/Diem for ex. to win but of course that's not going to happen.
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The only reasons I jumped on the CT bandwagon was because as far as I know (which is not much), he plays the game straight up, unlike JEK and would go in an elimination and win, but if he has an alliance with Johnny, I am jumping off his bandwagon, seriously.
I also was rooting for him because I am not a huge fan of Johnny, Camila, Ty or even Emily that much (although maybe this challenge will change my opinion of her).
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[QUOTE=cryssy19;292470]The only reasons I jumped on the CT bandwagon was because as far as I know (which is not much), he plays the game straight up, unlike JEK and would go in an elimination and win, but if he has an alliance with Johnny, I am jumping off his bandwagon, seriously.
I also was rooting for him because I am not a huge fan of Johnny, Camila, Ty or even Emily that much (although maybe this challenge will change my opinion of her).[/QUOTE]
CT plays the game straight only when it best serves him ------ when he is a known target and not part or an alliance.
CT has formed alliances before, Duel I and Gauntlet 3 ......... as opposed of playing for himself. Both times resulted in a loss near or in the Finals because of an injured partner or a late DQ. DI - he aligned himself with Evan,Derrick, and Brad until it was time for them all to face each other. G3, He definitely ran the show, but made the mistake of being persuaded to keep Big Easy around at the risk of his elimination in a weight advantage gauntlet.
However, if CT/Diem didn't when, then I suspect that either they were penalized, got stuck on a puzzle, or other foul means. I am unconvinced that Johnny/Camilla just physically outlasted CT/Diem or Ty/Emily..... (who I still think won the thing if CT/Diem didn't).
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[QUOTE=Infinite;292453]She was never following him, I checked every two days. Pics or it never happened.[/QUOTE]
You want pics, I got pics. I saved this screenshot just in case he blocked her or she unfollowed him for whatever reason:
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I also said that CT’s mom became Facebook friends with Diem right after they got home from the challenge. I didn’t take a screenshot of that but here’s one of her liking one of Diem’s latest pictures:
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So the CT/Diem twitter thing doesn’t do anything besides cause confusion, perhaps this is intentional. Obviously, I am a social network stalker myself but even I have to admit that this is getting crazy. We have Townie dropping a bomb then disappearing. Then, we have Kenny and Evan’s podcast. Do you think they will ever stop praising Johnny and bashing CT? They bash Dunbar more since he won. We’ve even added that JEK twitter jerk who admits he doesn’t know what he’s talking about!
What is clear to me is production is doing things differently. Look at how fast they turned this around in the editing room. They’re even giving us a special. With the premiere just a little over two weeks away, we don’t have specifics on the second location. I think Vman’s scenario of misinformation is very likely. It worked for The Bachelor and Reality Steve. They even edited the Brad Womack season of The Bachelor in favor of who Reality Steve proclaimed as the winner.
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That's weird. Never saw that, w/e. Obviously it had nothing to do with Diem not wanting to spoil anything pertaining to the show, because she's virtually following every other castmate.
Kenny is jealous, and a *****. When he interviewed CT that time on Derrick's podcast, he did nothing but kiss CT's ***, and when CT called him out on there for not giving full, committed answers, he backed down like a *****. I also don't know where he and evan get off saying people "suck," because they haven't "won," or always manage to lose, after their latest respective catastrophes on this past season. It's a joke really.
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Diem's following/unfollowing of CT could have been for a number of reasons. She may have been interested in what he would be saying after the challenge and followed him, but then decided it wasn't worth it when she discovered he hasn't been active on twitter since the show finished filming. Also, I don't think the fact that they're not "buddy buddy" on twitter gives anything away about who won. They went into the show on tough terms and just because they were partners and may or may not have won, it doesn't mean that their relationship improved at all or that they are best friends now.
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