The Challenge: Battle of the Exes - Spoiler Discussion

[QUOTE=ClubSandwich;290210]I'd have to agree with the general consensus that if CT made the final, it's his to lose. He's in terrific shape (strength and endurance) and has a partner that I expect will be really easy to pick up the slack for (should he need to carry an exhausted Diem at some point). I see Johnny walking away with some money though as I think he and Camila best Ty and Emily. [B]As far as who I hope wins, well that would be Johnny, just because I feel he's one of the more unappreciated challengers, I can't help but find myself rooting for the guy.[/B][/QUOTE] Omg really? Well at least some one's rooting for him. IMO all his wins were out of either luck or him just having the numbers, Rivals was bull and the Island was just plain weird, how smart was it to **** off the only competition in the game, I think that was a bad social game. But Ev knew she wasn't winning if she went on a boat with Robin, Ryan, Paula and Jenn, so he can thank Kenny, Dunbar and the ****** blue boat for that one. If he wins this and it was a fair final, then that would be impressive.

I believe Robin's accusation of Mark throwing the elimination against Johnny. The bigger guy has won every singe X-Battle elimination and Mark is much bigger than Johnny. He should be able to easily out muscle Johnny. And if Robin accused him of throwing it, that pretty much confirms that he losses to Johnny in their head to head. I also believe Robin must have beaten Camila, because if she lost to Camila herself, she has no reason to blame Mark for anything.

[QUOTE=TheCollegeD;282276]Only Robin.... but she also mentions taking a test and waiting to hear from a Dr. so maybe she;s on the short list as well...[/QUOTE] Add Adam Royer to the list: [URL="http://twitter.com/#%21/AdamRoyerMTV"]AdamRoyerMTV[/URL] Michael Adam Royer Taking a 600 question pysch eval, to see if I'm crazy.. We already know I'm crazy [URL="http://twitter.com/#%21/MTV"]@[B]MTV[/B][/URL] & [URL="http://twitter.com/#%21/BunimMurray"]@[B]BunimMurray[/B][/URL]! Haha jkjk [QUOTE=Debut Album;282277]Honestly I think they'd be crazy if they acutally DID that. I mean CT is entertaining and all but BMP can't rely on him forever. I'm all for the people from the newer seasons. I think that BMP can get some Huge names out of the past 7 Seasons.[/QUOTE] I won't mind seeing CT since he doesn't do many consecutive challenges. Drama Maria and Loosey Goosey Mandi on the other hand need to take a break. This will be their 4th consecutive challenge if they're on it. Speaking of people who need to talk a break, I think Paula is on this one. [QUOTE=faceless;282281]I know you like new faces and want that and it's fine and all but I think that the casters like CT being around because they know he can help carry a season. With the show not doing as well as it used it, it'd be risky to cast a ton of new faces or even old faces that haven't done many challenges. They don't know if a cast with half new people, 25% vets who haven't done challenges and 25% regulars who usually fall into the background.[/QUOTE] I agree with you. A cast of primarily newbies and old challengers is just too risky. We don't know what the newbies will bring to a challenge environment or if the oldies still have it in them. Even though they don't bring the same ratings CT does, BMP always has JEK on the show since we know they at least add some entertainment value. Like him or not, CT was one of the main factors in the increase in ratings that led to the challenges being renewed for one more season. I think they need him there if MTV is picking up the show based on how the preceding season did instead of the longer renewals they've done in the past. He comes with a built-in fanbase and storyline.

[QUOTE=TSPKM2;285336]Gah I wish people would read just a few pages of this thread or even just a few posts. Its probably not going to be another partner challenge!!! Its more likely going to be teams either composed of hookups or against their hookup.[/QUOTE] [I]Um[/I], no one recently posted in here that they thought it was going to be a partner challenge. Just saying we either hadn't ever been sold on the idea that it had to be one, or saying there doesn't need to be another one so soon, or wondering why some assumed it was previously. And this thread just came together from posts in other threads, so it just became possible to read this thread as a whole.

[QUOTE=molds13;285876]Clearly, anyone who has not had any sort of hookup or relationship with anyone, either on a Real World season or a Challenge, will be exempt from this one (like Brandon).[/QUOTE] Do you know if there will be any same sex pairings?

[QUOTE=LaneV95;286129]No Laurel, Maybe No Kellyanne. But probably Theresa Mandi and Camilla? Oh god.. Is BMP even wanting a 23rd Season?[/QUOTE]They can't force people to agree to do the challenge.

Oh, and I forgot... Thank you Molds for all of your hard work on putting the cast together and to all of those that kept their eyes out for Twitter/Facebook updates. It's much appreciated. :D

[QUOTE=cystic;287643]This is veering into the territory of speculating the mystery castmembers, which has been stated not to be allowed many times. Stop please.[/QUOTE] I'd say it's less veering into, and more crashing into the territory of speculating the mystery cast members.

Im also curious becuase CT has never really been on a challenge with people who are the same height/weight as him where he doesn't really have that advantage with Dunbar, Mark & Tyrie still there.

[QUOTE=townie;289688]This past summer, Wes hooked CT up with a ton of free nutritional supplements from some company that he has connections to. Don't know how bright of an idea it was to give the guy who is already the physically strongest guy on the challenges an even bigger opportunity to gain an edge, but I thought it was a nice gesture on his behalf.[/QUOTE] This majorly cracked me up but I believe you to be essentially right. I also echo the response that due to the Zito injury that this season was probably cut short some time.

[QUOTE=ClubSandwich;290477] Unrelated though, but Looking over Heather's tweet of "Everything happens for a reason, at least that's what I'm telling myself! Grrr" makes me assume that Dustin was most likely injured outside of an elimination round, and forced them off. Dustin getting injured during an elimination round would come off as redundant to their pairing being eliminated, and wouldn't warrant that sort of tweet. Either that or the initial injury was exacerbated during an elimination round where it directly impacted his ability to compete. Maybe I'm just reading too much into it.[/QUOTE] While I agree with you, Club I don't think it has to warrant anything. Maybe she's just explaining whats going on. Who knows?

[QUOTE=JEK & Wes;286133]They can't force people to agree to do the challenge.[/QUOTE] Actually... In the contract for Real Worlders, they are obligated, if chosen and mandated by the producer, to go on a Challenge, up to 7 years after the first episode of their season aired. It seems like BMP respects the wishes of those who decline; after all, it doesn't make for good TV to have a bunch of contestants who will not try and quit. But it is still in there. [url=http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/08/mtv_real_world_contract.php?page=2]We Have Obtained a Copy of MTV's Standard Real World Cast-Member Contract - New York News - Runnin' Scared[/url]

[QUOTE=Nightwolf;286387]Either way, Mark now has the longest run of anyone from the shows from season 1 to 22. Is he the first 40 year old to be on one?[/QUOTE] Yep. Funny, you have 19 year old Priscilla and then 40 year old Mark haha.

Molds, can you tell us (if you know yourself) whether one of the pairs we seem to be missing is the replacement for Adam and Nany?

Hopefully my question doesn't break any of the thread rules but I had a thought and was hoping for some feedback. Do you guys think it is likely that maybe this starts off as a pairs challenge but then splits into an individual challenge? I can't think of why people are being let go SO soon (when comparing it to past challenges). Maybe teams for awhile and then the final ___ are removed from their pair and it's every man for himself for the final. Thoughts?

Rooting for Ty and Emily, I think they are being underestimated.

[QUOTE=GiggidyGoo90;282534]I'm very surprised Dustin might be on this challenge because originally he and Mike were supposed to be a Rivals team but they didn't want to throw him to the wolves like JEK because of his gay **** past.[/QUOTE] My understanding is they very much wanted to throw Dustin to the Wolves but Dustin was the one who said no.

[QUOTE=Nightwolf;282794]I'm trying to find that clip of Dustin saying that he sometimes wants to tell Nany that she's "a dumb ho" but I'm not having much luck. That would pretty much describe the situation, or at least her personality at times.[/QUOTE] Its sad, really. You would would think that someone who is in college and is as pretty as her would try and find someone way better than Whor-yer or Bananas. Either way, she may be in shape but she doesn't strike me as someone who is very athletic. I'd rather have Cooke on the challenge than her. I really like drama and all, but I watch the Real World for that; I'd rather see people who have personalities but would really shine in the missions and make them actually worth watching.

There's still hope for Diem! Theresa has been tweeting regularly and active on facebook but I suppose someone could be managing her accounts. With, JD/Tyler/Davis being no's I really can't think of any male/male pair. IF Rachel and Aneesa are actually there, it would seem logical they would need a male/male pair to even out male/female ratio. Ryan hasn't tweeted since October 29th and has had no facebook activity since Halloween. No idea about Shane, but would love to see both of them.

On a side note, I wish they would've picked a different partner for Wes (like KellyAnne) since he was already partnered with Mandi on another partners challenge.

[QUOTE=Nightwolf;290475]That's assuming we don't have something similar to FM1 here where because another team was sent home outside of an elimination round, they decreased the amount of teams in the finals and 3rd place always got money, it's just that 3rd place is now last place when 4th place was last place.[/QUOTE] Ooo so that's what happened on fm1, I was wondering why there was 3 finals on the 1st and 4 on the 2nd fm. They could always do what they did on the duel and say no one goes home because whoever just punched someone. Besides it saves money to not give last place anything.

[QUOTE=TSPKM2;282801]Well I really liked the challenges prior to Duel 1...I also liked the Duel 2....all of which did not include Johnny. I cant believe that Nany would go after Johnny! yucky yucky[/QUOTE] I think the pattern is glaringly obvious by now. The chick likes **********.

[QUOTE=BillyBear231;284061]This theme definitly interests me a lot. Ct and Mandi, not that obvious, considering that Mandi has actually hooked up with Wes and Chet. Ct and Diem or Laurel also... so yah. Apparently Dunbar hooked up with like everyone on The Duel II (**** they shoulda shown) WHOA! WHAT!? This is news to me. When? Double Whoa! I knew about him and Jodi and Diem, but when was everyone else?[/QUOTE] Tonya on Inferno 2, Jenn on Inferno 3, and they found him in bed with Aneesa on Gauntlet 2 and Robin and Katie were me just being curious.

[QUOTE=DomDom7;285327]Did Tyler actually hook up with anyone on camera, or just make out? Because if that's the case maybe the "lesbian" pair could be Paula and Mandi, who made out on Rivals. Although from an earlier post from Mandi's facebook she might not be on? Or was that just Wes messing around? Well just a thought instead of Dunbar or Derek who I wouldn't expect to be back. I know it's a wild stretch lol......Can't wait to hear who's on the next challenge!!![/QUOTE] He hooked up with J.D. on Cutthroat, granted that was only shown on The *** They Should've Shown, I think. He made out with Ryan on Gauntlet 3, before being rejected by him afterwards.

Well Shane tweeted that he was "testing" around the same time the others did. But that's not much evidence lol, we shall see.

[QUOTE=jr588;286390]Yep. Funny, you have 19 year old Priscilla and then 40 year old Mark haha.[/QUOTE] Mark's older than her mom.

Are Janelle's (from Key West) Twitter and Facebook accounts closed for anyone else?

[QUOTE=TSPKM2;288180]Ty maybe athletic, but thats not enough, as we have all seen, he sucks at challenges. Emily did pretty well in 1 on 1 eliminations, and she didnt really stand out during missions on Cutthroat but who knows, I think with Ty as the weakest link they dont stand much of a chance.[/QUOTE] Well he's lasting longer than Wes, Leroy, and Vinny. So they must be doing something right.

Tomorrow will be 5 weeks since departing so the finals have to be soon there may be 1 or 2 more team eliminations. It may be hard to figure out who made it to the end since after Tyrie & Jasmine, it seems like social networking has been quiet. I'm sure molds will get to the bottom of who's gone we must be patient.

If Ty actually picked up some cardiovascular ability I think their team will be a force. After two challenges in a row of one of the perpetual losers (Brad and Paula(even though I love Paula)) winning I'd rather just see one of the younger cast members win like Ty, Emily, or Cara Maria. However, I would also not mind another Johnny Bananas win...even though I can't stand Camila.

[QUOTE=Blue123;290487]Ooo so that's what happened on fm1, I was wondering why there was 3 finals on the 1st and 4 on the 2nd fm. They could always do what they did on the duel and say no one goes home because whoever just punched someone. Besides it saves money to not give last place anything.[/QUOTE] Not really. They generally give out $300,000 for placing in the Challenges. How they distribute it varies though.

I would like to see if Adam Royer would be able to do well in the challenges. If so, he could be the next CT. At least from a ratings stand point.

I guess that means they'll be leaving before Halloween?

[url=http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=11997][img]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/18234eb029e0eb7b8.png[/img][/url] Hmm I wonder why it's her last day???? I think we should be adding her to the list.

[url=http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=12050][img]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/14474eb2ff0b5cfed.png[/img][/url] Bummer. No to Trishelle. She is hosting a poker event on Saturday.

What if Frank/Jillian really ARE on this challenge?

[QUOTE=Calinks;286557]I have a slight dilemma. Now I am down with figuring out who will be on the show and even what the concept of the show is like but I don't want to know who gets sent home and when. Obviously, I will be leaving this thread in a few days so I don't get that kind of information but I am worried about twitter. I am following a handful of people that are supposed to be on this challenge and I am following some people they communicate with. What if one of them just pops up a few days and starts tweeting? I will be spoiled. What do you guys suggest? Should I simply unfollow all of these people (kind of a pain in the butt and then I will have to re-follow them later). Is there some kind of mass block I can do on their tweets? Ugh... not sure what would be best.[/QUOTE] Create a list for all of the real world/challenge people you follow (then unfollow them) and during this time period just don't look at that list. So once you know the challenge is over and everyone is back home, follow everyone again if you want. I just keep a list for everyone in the franchise who has a twitter so i don't have to keep refollowing them after every challenge.

Will Priscilla be able to drink on the challenge?

I think this new challenge is going to be crazy and now with the Road Rules cast members back, oh man. Future challenges will be somewhat better now and at least there will be more cast members on future challenges.

[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;289708]In the Real World SD reunion thread Molds said that filming for this challenge was running through December 10th.[/QUOTE] I'll put words in her mouth here... Perhaps until as late as Dec 10. When things are planned logistically, there is always a plan, and then there is how things happen. For example, if you've included a few extra days for rentals based on the anticipation of a bad weather event or for equipment problems, but you don't need them, then you don't hang around until the planning date, you pack up and go home early. This is just an explanation of how some TV and film productions work. I have no facts regarding the challenge, per say.

Molds have you herd what the name of this challenge will be?

[QUOTE=ILoveRW;285874]Brianna and Joey? Baya and Ryan? Ashley and Mike?[/QUOTE] I would love to see any of those! I doubt we'll see Baya and Ryan though, the producers thought Baya was boring and I think Ryan is getting married. Also, Mike said he was done with Reality TV. [QUOTE=molds13;285878]My guess? One of each. Do I know? I will soon.[/QUOTE] Do you know when the cast will be departing?

[QUOTE=LaneV95;286129]No Laurel, Maybe No Kellyanne. But probably Theresa Mandi and Camilla? Oh god.. Is BMP even wanting a 23rd Season?[/QUOTE] I'm more annoyed by Paula, Johnny, and Sarah. In all honesty the only names that I've seen speculated that I'm the least bit excited for are Jasmine, Rachel, Aneesa, Robin, and the Vegas crew(except LeRoy).

[QUOTE=ILoveRW;286648]Are Janelle's (from Key West) Twitter and Facebook accounts closed for anyone else?[/QUOTE] I always thought that Twitter account was a fake, but do you have a link to her facebook page?

[QUOTE=V1man;288921]Maybe there will be little or no further info... Perhaps BMP woke up and has shown the remaining cast how easily they revealed themselves to vevmo and others. If I were producing the show, I'd incentivize the cast financially to keep their participation and eliminations a surprise. It's much easily to keep secrets 1) when people have a common purpose, and 2) when the failure to keeps secrets reduces one's income. Just a thought...[/QUOTE] I don't see why BMP would start this practice after so many seasons and half way through the show. Also I think most, if not all, people who read the spoilers still end up watching the show anyways.

I think everyone is home. Emily&Camila are very active on twitter.

[QUOTE=Buck05;290481]What makes you so positive to count Ty and Emily out completely?[/QUOTE] Unless Ty had drastically changed is diet and exercise routine, in the past he's shown us that he has absolutely no gas in the tank. Finals, far more so than challenges and most eliminations, require endurance.