Anyway, can we move on from whatever ya'll talking about. This is ongoing in multiple threads and it's been same convo for WEEKS now. Move on for the love of god.
oh I thought I missed something in this thread lol I didn't understood wtf was happening and it's so weird cause everyone has been so nice in here
The same argument has been cluttering multiple threads for weeks. They do this year long, at least CD and I take breaks from arguing for months. ⚰️
I never recalled season Trish Elle on the challenges I've seen or maybe never remembered her anyway I was on the fence at first just not really liking her but she's kind of grown on me if nothing else she amuses me and her takes on things lol and her dragging Kevin down was so funny
The same argument has been cluttering multiple threads for weeks. They do this year long, at least CD and I take breaks from arguing for months. ⚰️
Not true lol. He took a break from 39 so it was chill. I have been a little unhinged on him since he attacked my dead friend, but I'm moving on now that he's proven to be a fraud. He's just a miserable old man and has my condolences. So back to The Traitors! I miss Janelle.
The same argument has been cluttering multiple threads for weeks. They do this year long, at least CD and I take breaks from arguing for months. ⚰️
Not true lol. He took a break from 39 so it was chill. I have been a little unhinged on him since he attacked my dead friend, but I'm moving on now that he's proven to be a fraud. He's just a miserable old man and has my condolences. So back to The Traitors! I miss Janelle.
I never recalled season Trish Elle on the challenges I've seen or maybe never remembered her anyway I was on the fence at first just not really liking her but she's kind of grown on me if nothing else she amuses me and her takes on things lol and her dragging Kevin down was so funny
She was annoying on the challenges...basically consistented of sleeping with Mike, sleeping with Mike's friend, being voted in by Coral...long break...hating Sarah for no reason then quitting. All Stars was her screaming at Katie for no reason. She's much better on this. Though maybe she's about to snap with the overreaction to CT. But she's still way better on this.
I definitely think CT and maybe one of a John/Kevin/kate and that's all I got lol I would've picked Phaedra too but since Trish Elle is wise to her from the Dan thing idk anymore
Interesting, yeah we haven't seen any of that but maybe it's yet to come lol or maybe this show better suits her but like watching her when they were picking their ppl in the circle it was very cringy to watch her tbh lol but amusing
Trishelle and CT have known eachother for 22 years. They've never been close but I think they built what she felt was a genuine friendship for the first time so it just hurt that finally getting close, she felt backstabbed. It's easy for us to realize it's a game but in the moment for them it's real life and a betrayal. She knows Parv and Phaedra will choose between her and Bergie and likely her since she is the bigger threat so she's upset she's losing over him not picking her. I get the reaction.
So Fiona, who do you think will make it to the end? And do you think it will be traitors or faithfully the wins?
I don't know which will win since we don't know how any potential recruitments will play out. Right now I think Sandra, Sheree, CT, John, and Kevin are in the best position in the house. Peter, Bergie, and Trishelle are targets because they are the leaders of that alliance (so John and Kevin can potentially coast to the end since they're just there), and there is no way anyone lets Parvati or [probably not] Phaedra stay until the literal end. I could see Sandra and some others winning because they know who the traitors are and if they wait to banish them at the very end, it's an easy win.
If for some reason Parvati and/or Phaedra get banished in the next few banishments, that changes things because then there are new traitors. Since we don't know who they might be, it's hard to say if they could win it all as traitors.
I saw someone on Twitter describe Phaedra and CT this way, and now I want this to actually be a thing!
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Lmao that's why she may do really well. There is definitely no reason to banish her anytime soon. Phaedra isn't going to murder her, so unless there are different traitors I don't see her getting murdered anytime soon either. She's in a great position, despite not doing anything. If she's at the end they'll know she's a faithful so she could win.
Yes I agree w that, I feel like out of everyone on she shouldn't have been n yes we know Kevin's an idiot but its some amusement and mixes up w the smarty's but sheree just complete dud so far
Well KVM responded w the below, which makes sense as John does seem to be liked by everyone so it was safe
"It's a safe pick. CT's trying not to show his hand much. He knew John would likely save Peter who he's also working with. I don't think he cares about what happens to Trishelle. They've been "friends" for all of a few days so..."
Maybe he told her that she's her number 1 and she believed him,? Idk he can be pretty convincing lol
Funny how his social game is so good yet he sucks so bad at doing dammage control after "crossing" someone, Trishelle was out there crying asking him if he thought that John is smarter than her and my man stood there perplexed instead of denying it and trying to cofmfort her with any good excuse other than the BS about John being an asset or whatever LMAO, reminded me of how he handled his fight with Big T
The damage control wasn't good but nothing he did impacted his status in the game with her. CT has all the women other than her. She has all the men other than CT. Even if she's mad at him, she's not writing his name down any time soon.
Maybe, but they're making a big deal of it in the edit so maybe it'll have some consequences in the future, like Trishell choose CT or someone else for banishmment in final 3 or whatnot...
Well KVM responded w the below, which makes sense as John does seem to be liked by everyone so it was safe
"It's a safe pick. CT's trying not to show his hand much. He knew John would likely save Peter who he's also working with. I don't think he cares about what happens to Trishelle. They've been "friends" for all of a few days so..."
Maybe he told her that she's her number 1 and she believed him,? Idk he can be pretty convincing lol
Funny how his social game is so good yet he sucks so bad at doing dammage control after "crossing" someone, Trishelle was out there crying asking him if he thought that John is smarter than her and my man stood there perplexed instead of denying it and trying to cofmfort her with any good excuse other than the BS about John being an asset or whatever LMAO, reminded me of how he handled his fight with Big T
The damage control wasn't good but nothing he did impacted his status in the game with her. CT has all the women other than her. She has all the men other than CT. Even if she's mad at him, she's not writing his name down any time soon.
Maybe, but they're making a big deal of it in the edit so maybe it'll have some consequences in the future, like Trishell choose CT or someone else for banishmment in final 3 or whatnot...
Maybe--they also made a big deal of MJ not being picked. I mean, they're using the material given to them. Hopefully Trishelle does make a big move. I'd like anyone to
I mean even tho Dan was sloppy he tried to make a big move I doubt trishelke would just cause if she doesn't get murdered next she seems to still be friendly/in w the lady alliance and ct a tiny bit but what are her options she can't go after Phaedra and I'm sure they'll murder a peter pal person so she won't have any numbers to make a big move
Yes I agree w that, I feel like out of everyone on she shouldn't have been n yes we know Kevin's an idiot but its some amusement and mixes up w the smarty's but sheree just complete dud so far
Ha Kevin has provided some laughable moments. People like he and Sheree are why people can't fully use placement as as a measure of how well someone played the game. Sheree seemingly hasn't even been playing, and Kevin has been so bad at playing that no one cares to banish or murder him. I don't think they've played "better" than, say, Janelle even though they made it farther.
"I could see Sandra and some others winning because they know who the traitors are and if they wait to banish them at the very end, it's an easy win."
Once again I'm clueless w Sandra never seen her before but do you think she even knows who the traitors are and she's just playing clueless? Is that her style? I mean she had that whole pool table ball set up w the numbers aspect but does that mean anything but simply running the numbers?
"I could see Sandra and some others winning because they know who the traitors are and if they wait to banish them at the very end, it's an easy win."
Once again I'm clueless w Sandra never seen her before but do you think she even knows who the traitors are and she's just playing clueless? Is that her style? I mean she had that whole pool table ball set up w the numbers aspect but does that mean anything but simply running the numbers?
I think she at least knows Parvati is a traitor. For one, everyone thinks so. For another, Sandra would assume if she isn't a traitor, then Parvati as the other Survivor player would be one. She may not be confident right now that Phaedra is a traitor, but probably thinks a Bravo person is one and more so that there is still time to figure it out (whereas banishing traitors means starting over).
Her strategy in Survivor was famously "As long as it's not me," and that would transition well to Traitors. She's recognizing that if Peter has a solid alliance of 5 and she isn't in it, then she would likely get banished by them at some point. So, she's making sure she has a group that will protect her. If that group also then figures the traitors within that group out, then you get to the final 6 or whatever with them and just banish the traitors and win. It's actually a really simple strategy, too.
"I could see Sandra and some others winning because they know who the traitors are and if they wait to banish them at the very end, it's an easy win."
Once again I'm clueless w Sandra never seen her before but do you think she even knows who the traitors are and she's just playing clueless? Is that her style? I mean she had that whole pool table ball set up w the numbers aspect but does that mean anything but simply running the numbers?
I think she at least knows Parvati is a traitor. For one, everyone thinks so. For another, Sandra would assume if she isn't a traitor, then Parvati as the other Survivor player would be one. She may not be confident right now that Phaedra is a traitor, but probably thinks a Bravo person is one and more so that there is still time to figure it out (whereas banishing traitors means starting over).
Her strategy in Survivor was famously "As long as it's not me," and that would transition well to Traitors. She's recognizing that if Peter has a solid alliance of 5 and she isn't in it, then she would likely get banished by them at some point. So, she's making sure she has a group that will protect her. If that group also then figures the traitors within that group out, then you get to the final 6 or whatever with them and just banish the traitors and win. It's actually a really simple strategy, too.
I think the smart move is to kill Kate tbh. She's late into the game, nobody is really close to her and it makes it look like one of Peter's group is a traitor.
I think the smart move is to kill Kate tbh. She's late into the game, nobody is really close to her and it makes it look like one of Peter's group is a traitor.
That's potentially a good idea, but maybe in 1-2 murders? Right now Sandra's group has a majority 7-5 (assuming everyone outside of Peter's 5 is part of that group), but that means if literally just 1 person flips (like CT) then there is no majority. I think right now you murder Bergie or Trishelle so that Peter's group is down to 4. That gives Sandra's group a 7-4 majority, and then even if someone flips or does their own thing Sandra's group still has a majority. Also murdering Kate now when she's part of that group could alienate Sandra and others because they'd think they could be murdered next. They're only working with Parvati on the assumption she's working with them.
I'm still so confused at how the Peter pal group thinks alienating an entire other group (w more numbers and the 2 traitors) is a good thing..,
Lol right. From what I can tell Peter has a very limited view of how the game works; he is very much "The faithfuls are good and we need to ban the traitors because they are bad." His group of 5 are the people he feels very sure are faithfuls, and thus he is leaving the others out as they might be a traitor. That view of the game is also why he turned down the offer to be a traitor, even though that actually would have been smarter for his indidivual game.
I think the smart move is to kill Kate tbh. She's late into the game, nobody is really close to her and it makes it look like one of Peter's group is a traitor.
That's potentially a good idea, but maybe in 1-2 murders? Right now Sandra's group has a majority 7-5 (assuming everyone outside of Peter's 5 is part of that group), but that means if literally just 1 person flips (like CT) then there is no majority. I think right now you murder Bergie or Trishelle so that Peter's group is down to 4. That gives Sandra's group a 7-4 majority, and then even if someone flips or does their own thing Sandra's group still has a majority. Also murdering Kate now when she's part of that group could alienate Sandra and others because they'd think they could be murdered next. They're only working with Parvati on the assumption she's working with them.
But killing Bergie or Trishelle tells the housewives that Peter isn't a traitor and then they aren't going to vote him out. Sandra doesn't care who goes if it's not her.
The same argument has been cluttering multiple threads for weeks. They do this year long, at least CD and I take breaks from arguing for months. ⚰️
Yes maybe so! and I don't recall any faithfull meeting their traitor match but seems so w parv and Pete so this has been fun to watch
I never recalled season Trish Elle on the challenges I've seen or maybe never remembered her anyway I was on the fence at first just not really liking her but she's kind of grown on me if nothing else she amuses me and her takes on things lol and her dragging Kevin down was so funny
Not true lol. He took a break from 39 so it was chill. I have been a little unhinged on him since he attacked my dead friend, but I'm moving on now that he's proven to be a fraud. He's just a miserable old man and has my condolences. So back to The Traitors! I miss Janelle.
I attacked you
She was annoying on the challenges...basically consistented of sleeping with Mike, sleeping with Mike's friend, being voted in by Coral...long break...hating Sarah for no reason then quitting. All Stars was her screaming at Katie for no reason. She's much better on this. Though maybe she's about to snap with the overreaction to CT. But she's still way better on this.
So Fiona, who do you think will make it to the end? And do you think it will be traitors or faithfully the wins?
I definitely think CT and maybe one of a John/Kevin/kate and that's all I got lol I would've picked Phaedra too but since Trish Elle is wise to her from the Dan thing idk anymore
Interesting, yeah we haven't seen any of that but maybe it's yet to come lol or maybe this show better suits her but like watching her when they were picking their ppl in the circle it was very cringy to watch her tbh lol but amusing
Trishelle and CT have known eachother for 22 years. They've never been close but I think they built what she felt was a genuine friendship for the first time so it just hurt that finally getting close, she felt backstabbed. It's easy for us to realize it's a game but in the moment for them it's real life and a betrayal. She knows Parv and Phaedra will choose between her and Bergie and likely her since she is the bigger threat so she's upset she's losing over him not picking her. I get the reaction.
I don't know which will win since we don't know how any potential recruitments will play out. Right now I think Sandra, Sheree, CT, John, and Kevin are in the best position in the house. Peter, Bergie, and Trishelle are targets because they are the leaders of that alliance (so John and Kevin can potentially coast to the end since they're just there), and there is no way anyone lets Parvati or [probably not] Phaedra stay until the literal end. I could see Sandra and some others winning because they know who the traitors are and if they wait to banish them at the very end, it's an easy win.
If for some reason Parvati and/or Phaedra get banished in the next few banishments, that changes things because then there are new traitors. Since we don't know who they might be, it's hard to say if they could win it all as traitors.
I saw someone on Twitter describe Phaedra and CT this way, and now I want this to actually be a thing!
Ugh lol I always forget about sherre lol
Lol does this man have powers or what is happening my goodness
Lmao that's why she may do really well. There is definitely no reason to banish her anytime soon. Phaedra isn't going to murder her, so unless there are different traitors I don't see her getting murdered anytime soon either. She's in a great position, despite not doing anything. If she's at the end they'll know she's a faithful so she could win.
Yes I agree w that, I feel like out of everyone on she shouldn't have been n yes we know Kevin's an idiot but its some amusement and mixes up w the smarty's but sheree just complete dud so far
Maybe, but they're making a big deal of it in the edit so maybe it'll have some consequences in the future, like Trishell choose CT or someone else for banishmment in final 3 or whatnot...
Maybe--they also made a big deal of MJ not being picked. I mean, they're using the material given to them. Hopefully Trishelle does make a big move. I'd like anyone to
Peppermint stans still mad at Trishelle. Idgi.
I mean even tho Dan was sloppy he tried to make a big move I doubt trishelke would just cause if she doesn't get murdered next she seems to still be friendly/in w the lady alliance and ct a tiny bit but what are her options she can't go after Phaedra and I'm sure they'll murder a peter pal person so she won't have any numbers to make a big move
Ha Kevin has provided some laughable moments. People like he and Sheree are why people can't fully use placement as as a measure of how well someone played the game. Sheree seemingly hasn't even been playing, and Kevin has been so bad at playing that no one cares to banish or murder him. I don't think they've played "better" than, say, Janelle even though they made it farther.
"I could see Sandra and some others winning because they know who the traitors are and if they wait to banish them at the very end, it's an easy win."
Once again I'm clueless w Sandra never seen her before but do you think she even knows who the traitors are and she's just playing clueless? Is that her style? I mean she had that whole pool table ball set up w the numbers aspect but does that mean anything but simply running the numbers?
I would've definitely liked to see Janelle go farther sad she got snuffed out
I think she at least knows Parvati is a traitor. For one, everyone thinks so. For another, Sandra would assume if she isn't a traitor, then Parvati as the other Survivor player would be one. She may not be confident right now that Phaedra is a traitor, but probably thinks a Bravo person is one and more so that there is still time to figure it out (whereas banishing traitors means starting over).
Her strategy in Survivor was famously "As long as it's not me," and that would transition well to Traitors. She's recognizing that if Peter has a solid alliance of 5 and she isn't in it, then she would likely get banished by them at some point. So, she's making sure she has a group that will protect her. If that group also then figures the traitors within that group out, then you get to the final 6 or whatever with them and just banish the traitors and win. It's actually a really simple strategy, too.
And a great strategy.
I think the smart move is to kill Kate tbh. She's late into the game, nobody is really close to her and it makes it look like one of Peter's group is a traitor.
That's potentially a good idea, but maybe in 1-2 murders? Right now Sandra's group has a majority 7-5 (assuming everyone outside of Peter's 5 is part of that group), but that means if literally just 1 person flips (like CT) then there is no majority. I think right now you murder Bergie or Trishelle so that Peter's group is down to 4. That gives Sandra's group a 7-4 majority, and then even if someone flips or does their own thing Sandra's group still has a majority. Also murdering Kate now when she's part of that group could alienate Sandra and others because they'd think they could be murdered next. They're only working with Parvati on the assumption she's working with them.
I'm still so confused at how the Peter pal group thinks alienating an entire other group (w more numbers and the 2 traitors) is a good thing..,
Lol right. From what I can tell Peter has a very limited view of how the game works; he is very much "The faithfuls are good and we need to ban the traitors because they are bad." His group of 5 are the people he feels very sure are faithfuls, and thus he is leaving the others out as they might be a traitor. That view of the game is also why he turned down the offer to be a traitor, even though that actually would have been smarter for his indidivual game.
But killing Bergie or Trishelle tells the housewives that Peter isn't a traitor and then they aren't going to vote him out. Sandra doesn't care who goes if it's not her.
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