As I think about it, Sandra is playing the same game as Cirie did in season 1. Cirie befriended everyone, didn't go out of her way to mention anyone but would echo what others said, and basically played "as long as it's not me." I think it shows that method of playing works regardless of your role on the show.
I see the similarities that you pointed out, but I think Cirie is 1,000,000x better. Sandra stupidly rats out every piece of information she gets, sometimes for the sake of it/when it's not even beneficial for her. How she expects people to trust her after that, I'm not quite sure...
Sandra isn't being thought of for murder, nor is anyone saying she's a traitor (outside of Janelle's fight with her, which ultimately fell on deaf ears as again there is still no one after Sandra as a traitor). She's in a great position in the game. That's objectively true.
Sandra isn't being thought of for murder, nor is anyone saying she's a traitor (outside of Janelle's fight with her, which ultimately fell on deaf ears as again there is still no one after Sandra as a traitor). She's in a great position in the game. That's objectively true.
Besides the use of the o word, I agree about it being true. I just think she's a pretty terrible strategic player. She proved that on all her Survivor seasons except maybe Game Changers. Her strength is her social game tbh, which is why she's in a good position just like you mentioned. And I do acknowledge that social game is more effective than strategic game, it's just that Sandra's strategic game is so terrible that it still affects my opinions of her as a player
Sandra isn't being thought of for murder, nor is anyone saying she's a traitor (outside of Janelle's fight with her, which ultimately fell on deaf ears as again there is still no one after Sandra as a traitor). She's in a great position in the game. That's objectively true.
Besides the use of the o word, I agree about it being true. I just think she's a pretty terrible strategic player. She proved that on all her Survivor seasons except maybe Game Changers. Her strength is her social game tbh, which is why she's in a good position just like you mentioned. And I do acknowledge that social game is more effective than strategic game, it's just that Sandra's strategic game is so terrible that it still affects my opinions of her as a player
Yeah her social game is great, which Parvati recognized on HvV but Russell underestimated and brought her to the final.
Even though there are strategic elements, Traitors is a very social game which is why Sandra is doing well (and is something Dan and Parvati didn't focus on enough; they've been too strategic as traitors instead of just being social and making friends).
"Even though there are strategic elements, Traitors is a very social game which is why Sandra is doing well (and is something Dan and Parvati didn't focus on enough; they've been too strategic as traitors instead of just being social and making friends)."
Is this something these two could/would even excel at? I'm just asking since idk their work
It's hard to say if Sandra's game is good or bad. Has she made any moves that benefited the faithfuls? She's not killed because Parv is a Traitor and they agreed to protect eachother and try to start a genuine friendship.
I'm blocked from this account for sime reason. What is it?
a tweet that says "lot of the BB greats can't win other games because they need to be able to align with other white people. When they have to align with POC it goes haywire. Survivor does a better job at making you work with people different from you so that's why they do better"
"Even though there are strategic elements, Traitors is a very social game which is why Sandra is doing well (and is something Dan and Parvati didn't focus on enough; they've been too strategic as traitors instead of just being social and making friends)."
Is this something these two could/would even excel at? I'm just asking since idk their work
I think they could, Parvati more than Dan. Dan's game on BB was always to lie low, have 1-2 people he trusted and stay loyal to them, and then go hard at the end including targeting someone in public. That's literally what he did on Traitors, too, but it's a different show. I've never seen him socialize well with a large group, so not sure.
Parvati always had a larger circle (the Black Widow group the season she won, Russell, Danille, and Jerri her next season) but also used that group in a stratgic way to get to the end. She's playing that way to an extent here as well as she seems to have that gamer alliance, but in this game it's more important to be social with everyone whereas in Survivor (especially when she played) a small alliance could do damage. She also used to toy with men who were not in her alliance and manipulate them, but we saw that didn't work with Peter. She would have had a better chance with Bergie.
As for your question about Phaedra and Sheree, at this point I don't see Sheree banishing Phaedra so in that scenario Phaedra wins. Presumably there would be 1-2 more people there with them, so it would also depend on their votes.
Dan said he thought the gameplayers wouldnt be taking this so personally and know its a game ::giggles:: Johnny hates when his game is played back at him
Dan said he thought the gameplayers wouldnt be taking this so personally and know its a game ::giggles:: Johnny hates when his game is played back at him
Dan forgets that he has a life outside these shows so that it's just a game for him. Unlike someone like CT, this is not just John's career. It is his life, his existence, and his entire being. Without the "Bananas" persona, he is a nobody. Just a lonely narcissistic misogynist. Dan eliminaitng him was taking away the attention and success that John needs to feel any self-worth so it makes sense why he is so upset.
Dan said he thought the gameplayers wouldnt be taking this so personally and know its a game ::giggles:: Johnny hates when his game is played back at him
Dan forgets that he has a life outside these shows so that it's just a game for him. Unlike someone like CT, this is not just John's career. It is his life, his existence, and his entire being. Without the "Bananas" persona, he is a nobody. Just a lonely narcissistic misogynist. Dan eliminaitng him was taking away the attention and success that John needs to feel any self-worth so it makes sense why he is so upset.
**** this drag towards Bananas is spot on. I felt it as well for some reason ****
It was an objectively bad game move though for Dan to eliminate Bananas. everyone was sure it was a "legendary guy" as one of the traitors so it came down to him or CT ocne he took out bananas. dumb move
It was an objectively bad game move though for Dan to eliminate Bananas. everyone was sure it was a "legendary guy" as one of the traitors so it came down to him or CT ocne he took out bananas. dumb move
Ugh it would be YOU to trigger one of my pet peeves. It is not OBJECTIVE. It's SUBJECTIVE! Dumb dumb
Are people still trying to claim Dan didn't play poorly? I agree it doesn't hurt his legacy but he was not good at this game at all. Maybe as a faithful he'd have been better but he wanted to be a traitor from the start.
Are people still trying to claim Dan didn't play poorly? I agree it doesn't hurt his legacy but he was not good at this game at all. Maybe as a faithful he'd have been better but he wanted to be a traitor from the start.
Are people still trying to claim Dan didn't play poorly? I agree it doesn't hurt his legacy but he was not good at this game at all. Maybe as a faithful he'd have been better but he wanted to be a traitor from the start.
He started out playing good. But the last two episodes really caused his down fall. He should have thrown Parvati under the bus.
Dan said he thought the gameplayers wouldnt be taking this so personally and know its a game ::giggles:: Johnny hates when his game is played back at him
Dan forgets that he has a life outside these shows so that it's just a game for him. Unlike someone like CT, this is not just John's career. It is his life, his existence, and his entire being. Without the "Bananas" persona, he is a nobody. Just a lonely narcissistic misogynist. Dan eliminaitng him was taking away the attention and success that John needs to feel any self-worth so it makes sense why he is so upset.
**** I read like 100 pages of a book today and still didn't give this good of a read ****
Who am I *****??? Entertain me!!!
Sandra isn't being thought of for murder, nor is anyone saying she's a traitor (outside of Janelle's fight with her, which ultimately fell on deaf ears as again there is still no one after Sandra as a traitor). She's in a great position in the game. That's objectively true.
Besides the use of the o word, I agree about it being true. I just think she's a pretty terrible strategic player. She proved that on all her Survivor seasons except maybe Game Changers. Her strength is her social game tbh, which is why she's in a good position just like you mentioned. And I do acknowledge that social game is more effective than strategic game, it's just that Sandra's strategic game is so terrible that it still affects my opinions of her as a player
Yeah her social game is great, which Parvati recognized on HvV but Russell underestimated and brought her to the final.
Even though there are strategic elements, Traitors is a very social game which is why Sandra is doing well (and is something Dan and Parvati didn't focus on enough; they've been too strategic as traitors instead of just being social and making friends).
"Even though there are strategic elements, Traitors is a very social game which is why Sandra is doing well (and is something Dan and Parvati didn't focus on enough; they've been too strategic as traitors instead of just being social and making friends)."
Is this something these two could/would even excel at? I'm just asking since idk their work
Miss Fiona, you mentioned surrounding with gullible ppl wonder what the outcome would be if Phaedra and sheree both make it to the end...
It's hard to say if Sandra's game is good or bad. Has she made any moves that benefited the faithfuls? She's not killed because Parv is a Traitor and they agreed to protect eachother and try to start a genuine friendship.
The gworls aren't ready for this
https://x.com/anne38217/status/1753838236013584890?s=46
I'm blocked from this account for sime reason. What is it?
a tweet that says "lot of the BB greats can't win other games because they need to be able to align with other white people. When they have to align with POC it goes haywire. Survivor does a better job at making you work with people different from you so that's why they do better"
I think they could, Parvati more than Dan. Dan's game on BB was always to lie low, have 1-2 people he trusted and stay loyal to them, and then go hard at the end including targeting someone in public. That's literally what he did on Traitors, too, but it's a different show. I've never seen him socialize well with a large group, so not sure.
Parvati always had a larger circle (the Black Widow group the season she won, Russell, Danille, and Jerri her next season) but also used that group in a stratgic way to get to the end. She's playing that way to an extent here as well as she seems to have that gamer alliance, but in this game it's more important to be social with everyone whereas in Survivor (especially when she played) a small alliance could do damage. She also used to toy with men who were not in her alliance and manipulate them, but we saw that didn't work with Peter. She would have had a better chance with Bergie.
As for your question about Phaedra and Sheree, at this point I don't see Sheree banishing Phaedra so in that scenario Phaedra wins. Presumably there would be 1-2 more people there with them, so it would also depend on their votes.
Keep hearing season 3 filming has been push for 1-3 more months
good make it a summer season
Very enlightening, thank you!
NOOOOO!!!! I WANT IT NOW!
I hope they do it as a summer theme in another location.
Dan said he thought the gameplayers wouldnt be taking this so personally and know its a game ::giggles:: Johnny hates when his game is played back at him
Dan forgets that he has a life outside these shows so that it's just a game for him. Unlike someone like CT, this is not just John's career. It is his life, his existence, and his entire being. Without the "Bananas" persona, he is a nobody. Just a lonely narcissistic misogynist. Dan eliminaitng him was taking away the attention and success that John needs to feel any self-worth so it makes sense why he is so upset.
**** this drag towards Bananas is spot on. I felt it as well for some reason ****
It was an objectively bad game move though for Dan to eliminate Bananas. everyone was sure it was a "legendary guy" as one of the traitors so it came down to him or CT ocne he took out bananas. dumb move
Dan was on borrowed time no matter what. So I'm happy he used his time wisely by taking out that low life.
Ugh it would be YOU to trigger one of my pet peeves. It is not OBJECTIVE. It's SUBJECTIVE! Dumb dumb
Are people still trying to claim Dan didn't play poorly? I agree it doesn't hurt his legacy but he was not good at this game at all. Maybe as a faithful he'd have been better but he wanted to be a traitor from the start.
Me! I think he played great!
He started out playing good. But the last two episodes really caused his down fall. He should have thrown Parvati under the bus.
Apparently Netflix is making a show just like Traitors with UK and US reality Stars.
Netflix and peacock really battling it out for best reality content lately huh
**** I read like 100 pages of a book today and still didn't give this good of a read ****
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