KennyER wrote:Also Hannah owned Adam at that FTC lol. Basically what Adam said during FTC is "Hannah went rogue and I had to listen to her"
i think more people saw adam as a threat though... definitely more of a threat then hannah ever was. and because of this, the fact that adam escaped so many tribals without anyone getting him is what made people want to vote. All hannah has is, yes i was in the majority (a common floater pitch to win (not saying shes a floater)) and she took out brett which even after she said why, still made no sense... so no, she didn't "own" anything in that tribal. she stumbled through most of her answers too, and didn't even SPEAK UP when a move she did (swayed ken) was awarded to someone else. Yeah she really owned that
Adam was able to escape so many tribals because people like Jay, Zeke, and David were bigger threats. Hannah was also able to escape so many tribals because of those 3. Her taking out Brett made complete sense(I don't get how you don't understand her logic behind this).You still didn't answer my question tho ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
giving up a reward steal for brownieforming a bond with an enemy to get make sure if jay was eliminated he'd put in a good word for taylor and michele, and even if unintentional, being on the wrong side of most votes is REALLY good for your game because then the person eliminated likes and trusts you.
It all leads back to his mother having cancer lolz
any personal story can suffice to form a personal bond. adam had a good one. but fact is, jay and adam liked each other as gameplayers (even before he told him the story) and that's what i'm trying to get at. but if you just want to keep seeing the big mom card as the only reason he won, by all means, go live in that fantasy world. i'm just saying, hannah was not going to win... had adam brought up his mother at the FTC or not. her performance in the FTC was not good... it was sloppy and she was never able to take control, even when others were taking credit. #justsayin lol
Oh so he gets close with Jay then screws Jay over multiple times lmaoGreat work Adam. The guy even helped Ken win immunity over Jay and somehow Jay is going to forgive all of that and sway Tay/Michelle? I don't think so
he and jay were always going after one another. jay knew his last hope was to try and get adam on his side but you know what? jay wasn't playing with emotions and he was willing to forgive someone who was just playing the game (and yeah adam taking ken to a final is smart gameplay, so why not help him win? jay knew he couldn't sway ken so what would be the point in helping?). you could tell from the FTC that he was still going to vote for adam. like did you miss that whole friend/enemy segment, or?
KennyER wrote:Also Hannah owned Adam at that FTC lol. Basically what Adam said during FTC is "Hannah went rogue and I had to listen to her"
i think more people saw adam as a threat though... definitely more of a threat then hannah ever was. and because of this, the fact that adam escaped so many tribals without anyone getting him is what made people want to vote. All hannah has is, yes i was in the majority (a common floater pitch to win (not saying shes a floater)) and she took out brett which even after she said why, still made no sense... so no, she didn't "own" anything in that tribal. she stumbled through most of her answers too, and didn't even SPEAK UP when a move she did (swayed ken) was awarded to someone else. Yeah she really owned that
Adam was able to escape so many tribals because people like Jay, Zeke, and David were bigger threats. Hannah was also able to escape so many tribals because of those 3. Her taking out Brett made complete sense(I don't get how you don't understand her logic behind this).You still didn't answer my question tho ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
giving up a reward steal for brownieforming a bond with an enemy to get make sure if jay was eliminated he'd put in a good word for taylor and michele, and even if unintentional, being on the wrong side of most votes is REALLY good for your game because then the person eliminated likes and trusts you.
It all leads back to his mother having cancer lolz
any personal story can suffice to form a personal bond. adam had a good one. but fact is, jay and adam liked each other as gameplayers (even before he told him the story) and that's what i'm trying to get at. but if you just want to keep seeing the big mom card as the only reason he won, by all means, go live in that fantasy world. i'm just saying, hannah was not going to win... had adam brought up his mother at the FTC or not. her performance in the FTC was not good... it was sloppy and she was never able to take control, even when others were taking credit. #justsayin lol
are you confusing Hannah and Adams FTC performances? Hannah might have been too aggressive but Adam was completely shook and even made Hannah look better at times.
Oh so he gets close with Jay then screws Jay over multiple times lmaoGreat work Adam. The guy even helped Ken win immunity over Jay and somehow Jay is going to forgive all of that and sway Tay/Michelle? I don't think so
he and jay were always going after one another. jay knew his last hope was to try and get adam on his side but you know what? jay wasn't playing with emotions and he was willing to forgive someone who was just playing the game (and yeah adam taking ken to a final is smart gameplay, so why not help him win? jay knew he couldn't sway ken so what would be the point in helping?). you could tell from the FTC that he was still going to vote for adam. like did you miss that whole friend/enemy segment, or?
Except Jay was playing off emotion on the tribal council that Michelle went home. Adam only won because his mom had cancer. I'm pretty sure that had something to do with how close he became with Jay and the respect that Jay had for him.
KennyER wrote:Oh so he gets close with Jay then screws Jay over multiple times lmaoGreat work Adam. The guy even helped Ken win immunity over Jay and somehow Jay is going to forgive all of that and sway Tay/Michelle? I don't think so
he and jay were always going after one another. jay knew his last hope was to try and get adam on his side but you know what? jay wasn't playing with emotions and he was willing to forgive someone who was just playing the game (and yeah adam taking ken to a final is smart gameplay, so why not help him win? jay knew he couldn't sway ken so what would be the point in helping?). you could tell from the FTC that he was still going to vote for adam. like did you miss that whole friend/enemy segment, or?
Except Jay was playing off emotion on the tribal council that Michelle went home. Adam only won because his mom had cancer. I'm pretty sure that had something to do with how close he became with Jay and the respect that Jay had for him.
still using that "only" word lol okay i'm done. i don't even know why i try with you people
i rarely read threads on here lol... but please don't tell me (based on this last page) that people disagree that Adam played the best game of the final 3?
David wins if he makes it. Hannah was always a goat and Ken didn't do that much, he's a great guy but Adam was balls deep in this season strategically and none of the jury was in denial about it.
i rarely read threads on here lol... but please don't tell me (based on this last page) that people disagree that Adam played the best game of the final 3? David wins if he makes it. Hannah was always a goat and Ken didn't do that much, he's a great guy but Adam was balls deep in this season strategically and none of the jury was in denial about it.
Oh **** really wanted Hannah to win. Felt really sorry about Adam's mum but his game was (imo) terrible. He followed so many of Hannah's moves and yet he said her moves were dumb.
This next season looks amazing. But so did second chance. Hopefully it won't dissappoint. Cirie all the way !!!
Adam still beats Ken without Mom story. Chris whole heartedly believe Adam was the one that convinced Ken to vote out Dave. So by proxy he would have Bret and Sunday and Zeke.Jay has that bond with Adam, so he might have pulled in Michelle and Taylor. Ken and Hannah had no hope.
I have this thoery that most jurors vote for who they think accomplished/did more in the game (adam) no matter how good or bad the moves were, rather than someone with few, but great moves (Hannah). It also happened in the case of Mike and Carolyn. Mike did more, but a lot of his moves sucked. Meanwhile, Caroyln was lowkey, but if i remember correctly, the few moves she did make were great and what got her to final 3.
This was a great season so many blindsides (my favorites) and great moments. I am okay with Adam winning (10-0-0) impressive. I knew Ken was not going to win because the jury seem bitter towards him, Hannah I would of been okay with her winning but after she did not mention that she was the one that convinced Ken to flip on Dave I knew she was toast, funny how she called Sunday a goat and it kind of seem like she was a goat in that final 3 as well.
I cant wait for next season ****** that they could not do the twist they iniatially wanted having tribes consisting of all winners, jury members, and pre mergers but Game Changers seems okay with me so many favorites I do not know who to root for. A season full of returning players is always welcome by me.
getting lucky that Jessica was stupid and went to rocks otherwise her *** is out.
Exactly. Her motives to making moves were solely for "I'm not a goat." But her moves weren't necessarily big moves. She did something, but really didn't do anything. Adam is well deserved winner on all aspects.
richjoe92 wrote:What were Hannah's great moves tho?
getting lucky that Jessica was stupid and went to rocks otherwise her *** is out.
Exactly. Her motives to making moves were solely for "I'm not a goat." But her moves weren't necessarily big moves. She did something, but really didn't do anything. Adam is well deserved winner on all aspects.
But his moves were pretty horrible too. Actually, this season in general was lacking smart moves/players. Adam's a good winner, but i'd rank him with the bottom 15
richjoe92 wrote:What were Hannah's great moves tho?
getting lucky that Jessica was stupid and went to rocks otherwise her *** is out.
Exactly. Her motives to making moves were solely for "I'm not a goat." But her moves weren't necessarily big moves. She did something, but really didn't do anything. Adam is well deserved winner on all aspects.
But his moves were pretty horrible too. Actually, this season in general was lacking smart moves/players. Adam's a good winner, but i'd rank him with the bottom 15
Okay. But we're talking about why he deserved to win THIS season. Irregardless of how he shapes up to every other player in survivor history.
Hannah correctly identified both times she was a target, was on the majority for every vote except one, had people go to rocks for her, was responsible for the Sunday blindside, got Ken to flip on David.
Adam played two idols incorrectly, tried to get David out two times and failed, was a mess the first two rounds of the merge? Impressive resumé
Hannah correctly identified both times she was a target, was on the majority for every vote except one, had people go to rocks for her, was responsible for the Sunday blindside, got Ken to flip on David. Adam played two idols incorrectly, tried to get David out two times and failed, was a mess the first two rounds of the merge? Impressive resumé
any personal story can suffice to form a personal bond. adam had a good one. but fact is, jay and adam liked each other as gameplayers (even before he told him the story) and that's what i'm trying to get at. but if you just want to keep seeing the big mom card as the only reason he won, by all means, go live in that fantasy world. i'm just saying, hannah was not going to win... had adam brought up his mother at the FTC or not. her performance in the FTC was not good... it was sloppy and she was never able to take control, even when others were taking credit. #justsayin lol
he and jay were always going after one another. jay knew his last hope was to try and get adam on his side but you know what? jay wasn't playing with emotions and he was willing to forgive someone who was just playing the game (and yeah adam taking ken to a final is smart gameplay, so why not help him win? jay knew he couldn't sway ken so what would be the point in helping?). you could tell from the FTC that he was still going to vote for adam. like did you miss that whole friend/enemy segment, or?
are you confusing Hannah and Adams FTC performances? Hannah might have been too aggressive but Adam was completely shook and even made Hannah look better at times.
Except Jay was playing off emotion on the tribal council that Michelle went home. Adam only won because his mom had cancer. I'm pretty sure that had something to do with how close he became with Jay and the respect that Jay had for him.
still using that "only" word lol okay i'm done. i don't even know why i try with you people
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when people think you just go into survivor and magically get to f3 by doing nothing except for having a sob story
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when people just make shit up that no one said or implied ****
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i rarely read threads on here lol... but please don't tell me (based on this last page) that people disagree that Adam played the best game of the final 3?
David wins if he makes it. Hannah was always a goat and Ken didn't do that much, he's a great guy but Adam was balls deep in this season strategically and none of the jury was in denial about it.
sadly most of them do... smh
I'm trying to figure out what Adam did to make you guys think he played better than Hannah?
agreed. Adam has made so many mistakes with the whole advantage **** and wanting to work with Taylor. His own alliance didn't trust him
Oh **** really wanted Hannah to win. Felt really sorry about Adam's mum but his game was (imo) terrible. He followed so many of Hannah's moves and yet he said her moves were dumb.
This next season looks amazing. But so did second chance. Hopefully it won't dissappoint. Cirie all the way !!!
Jay elite, Michaela my new wifey
Adam still beats Ken without Mom story. Chris whole heartedly believe Adam was the one that convinced Ken to vote out Dave. So by proxy he would have Bret and Sunday and Zeke.Jay has that bond with Adam, so he might have pulled in Michelle and Taylor. Ken and Hannah had no hope.
Most annoying winner everrrrr
Jay is still the winner in my heart tho.
I have this thoery that most jurors vote for who they think accomplished/did more in the game (adam) no matter how good or bad the moves were, rather than someone with few, but great moves (Hannah). It also happened in the case of Mike and Carolyn. Mike did more, but a lot of his moves sucked. Meanwhile, Caroyln was lowkey, but if i remember correctly, the few moves she did make were great and what got her to final 3.
What were Hannah's great moves tho?
This was a great season so many blindsides (my favorites) and great moments. I am okay with Adam winning (10-0-0) impressive. I knew Ken was not going to win because the jury seem bitter towards him, Hannah I would of been okay with her winning but after she did not mention that she was the one that convinced Ken to flip on Dave I knew she was toast, funny how she called Sunday a goat and it kind of seem like she was a goat in that final 3 as well.
I cant wait for next season ****** that they could not do the twist they iniatially wanted having tribes consisting of all winners, jury members, and pre mergers but Game Changers seems okay with me so many favorites I do not know who to root for. A season full of returning players is always welcome by me.
getting lucky that Jessica was stupid and went to rocks otherwise her *** is out.
Exactly. Her motives to making moves were solely for "I'm not a goat." But her moves weren't necessarily big moves. She did something, but really didn't do anything. Adam is well deserved winner on all aspects.
But his moves were pretty horrible too. Actually, this season in general was lacking smart moves/players. Adam's a good winner, but i'd rank him with the bottom 15
Okay. But we're talking about why he deserved to win THIS season. Irregardless of how he shapes up to every other player in survivor history.
she got Ken to turn on David and got rid of Sunday who was a pretty big jury threat considering everyone besides Jessica adored her
YES thank god David and Hannah didn't win. Although I would have loved this season more if Jay won I'm totally fine with Adam winning.
Hannah correctly identified both times she was a target, was on the majority for every vote except one, had people go to rocks for her, was responsible for the Sunday blindside, got Ken to flip on David.
Adam played two idols incorrectly, tried to get David out two times and failed, was a mess the first two rounds of the merge? Impressive resumé
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