Fischbach tricking Abi in the challenge like that was hilariou/great. Loved Jeremy wasting his idol and Kelley finding one. Loved Spencer being involved with making moves and winning. Sad Ciera went home over someone like Kimmi, but she wasn't playing that great of a game. I like her and her style, but her game was more about flashy, big moves, gotta do this, than playing a stronger social game. It was entertaining as hell but didn't work.
Keeping Joe safe was actually smart for Kelley, Keith, Spencer and Abi. If they got rid of him the would lose the numers and the other side would completely take over. Plus there is almost no chance he wins every other immunity so they will have other chances to take him out. If he does win every single challenge, then they deserve to vote him to win in the end.
Am I the only one who doesn't find Abi entertaning? She's so bad at the game that it's not even fun to watch her be crazy. Her snapping at people constantly and telling them she doesn't know how she's gonna vote is one of the worst game plays I've ever seen.
Am I the only one who doesn't find Abi entertaning? She's so bad at the game that it's not even fun to watch her be crazy. Her snapping at people constantly and telling them she doesn't know how she's gonna vote is one of the worst game plays I've ever seen.
Kind of where I'm at. She has good one liners but horrific at this game.
Any Abi fans don't love her for the game at all, she's such a mess out there and has funny lines like the one ast Savage as he got voted out or telling Joe to lose the challenge for her. Sad about these two boots, but saw them coming after all the screentime Ciera got.
Fischbach tricking Abi in the challenge like that was hilariou/great. Loved Jeremy wasting his idol and Kelley finding one. Loved Spencer being involved with making moves and winning. Sad Ciera went home over someone like Kimmi, but she wasn't playing that great of a game. I like her and her style, but her game was more about flashy, big moves, gotta do this, than playing a stronger social game. It was entertaining as hell but didn't work.
Keeping Joe safe was actually smart for Kelley, Keith, Spencer and Abi. If they got rid of him the would lose the numers and the other side would completely take over. Plus there is almost no chance he wins every other immunity so they will have other chances to take him out. If he does win every single challenge, then they deserve to vote him to win in the end.
Am I the only one who doesn't find Abi entertaning? She's so bad at the game that it's not even fun to watch her be crazy. Her snapping at people constantly and telling them she doesn't know how she's gonna vote is one of the worst game plays I've ever seen.
Her social game is actually very on point, the only people she ran into problems with was Savage. The show doesn't decpict it because her big moves agenda was more entertaining.
You just explained why people love Abi btw, she's so bad it's good. I douybt anybody loves her as a player,, but as a character.
Fischbach tricking Abi in the challenge like that was hilariou/great. Loved Jeremy wasting his idol and Kelley finding one. Loved Spencer being involved with making moves and winning. Sad Ciera went home over someone like Kimmi, but she wasn't playing that great of a game. I like her and her style, but her game was more about flashy, big moves, gotta do this, than playing a stronger social game. It was entertaining as hell but didn't work.
Keeping Joe safe was actually smart for Kelley, Keith, Spencer and Abi. If they got rid of him the would lose the numers and the other side would completely take over. Plus there is almost no chance he wins every other immunity so they will have other chances to take him out. If he does win every single challenge, then they deserve to vote him to win in the end.
Am I the only one who doesn't find Abi entertaning? She's so bad at the game that it's not even fun to watch her be crazy. Her snapping at people constantly and telling them she doesn't know how she's gonna vote is one of the worst game plays I've ever seen.
Her social game is actually very on point, the only people she ran into problems with was Savage. The show doesn't decpict it because her big moves agenda was more entertaining.
You just explained why people love Abi btw, she's so bad it's good. I douybt anybody loves her as a player,, but as a character.
I think she has an ok social game, better than a lot of people. If the show doesn't depict how good of a social game someone is, than are they really that great? She knows the game and knows how to play it and what moves to make for the most part. But her constantly opening her mouth, and coming up with big moves infront of so many people, especially when it was different people each episode, is what bit her in the ***. Sucks that she got voted out though, especially because they were making a big move but got screwed because of the idol. Her social game is what got her voted off in the end. A great social game to me is when people aren't necessarily that aware of it.
But that's what I'm saying. Am I the only one who doesn't like her character? A lot of times the crazy people are fun to watch and still have good games like K***. Abi has no chance of winning and her constant snapping at people when they are asking her her opinion is annoying lol.
I love her! She just fell flat with the social game. She had a big mouth and was too open about making big moves.
I agree! She put a huge target on her back. It sucks that she was sent to the jury so early -.-
I know! I wish Kimmi/Keith and even Abi was sent before her. She was a pretty good player who had a great shot of winning. Pus she's enjoyable to watch. She really wants to play the game and always comes up with moves and as a viewer that's great to see. It sucks that they had a great plan and it got screwed because an idol was played. Especially since it was for Fishbach lol
Fischbach tricking Abi in the challenge like that was hilariou/great. Loved Jeremy wasting his idol and Kelley finding one. Loved Spencer being involved with making moves and winning. Sad Ciera went home over someone like Kimmi, but she wasn't playing that great of a game. I like her and her style, but her game was more about flashy, big moves, gotta do this, than playing a stronger social game. It was entertaining as hell but didn't work.
Keeping Joe safe was actually smart for Kelley, Keith, Spencer and Abi. If they got rid of him the would lose the numers and the other side would completely take over. Plus there is almost no chance he wins every other immunity so they will have other chances to take him out. If he does win every single challenge, then they deserve to vote him to win in the end.
Am I the only one who doesn't find Abi entertaning? She's so bad at the game that it's not even fun to watch her be crazy. Her snapping at people constantly and telling them she doesn't know how she's gonna vote is one of the worst game plays I've ever seen.
Her social game is actually very on point, the only people she ran into problems with was Savage. The show doesn't decpict it because her big moves agenda was more entertaining.
You just explained why people love Abi btw, she's so bad it's good. I douybt anybody loves her as a player,, but as a character.
I think she has an ok social game, better than a lot of people. If the show doesn't depict how good of a social game someone is, than are they really that great? She knows the game and knows how to play it and what moves to make for the most part. But her constantly opening her mouth, and coming up with big moves infront of so many people, especially when it was different people each episode, is what bit her in the ***. Sucks that she got voted out though, especially because they were making a big move but got screwed because of the idol. Her social game is what got her voted off in the end. A great social game to me is when people aren't necessarily that aware of it.
But that's what I'm saying. Am I the only one who doesn't like her character? A lot of times the crazy people are fun to watch and still have good games like K***. Abi has no chance of winning and her constant snapping at people when they are asking her her opinion is annoying lol.
No, the show definitely doesn't highlight things they don't need to. A ton of players were a lot better socially than shown like Tony from Cagayan, but they only chose to show his paranoia and idols and scehming. Not really, she approached the right people and had everything going right, an idol just ****** her here. (she was in the majority for the vote) I would consider a great social game one where you're very well liked, respected, and have good relatiosnhips with people, which she did.
K*** didn't have a good game, unless you're talking this season in which case she was only crazy for one episode. I don't really see the difference between her and any other crazy people who've been on the show. I love everything about her and am glad she's getting more scenes here and there. I don't look at survivor as striclty a game of strategy, so maybe that's why.
I love her! She just fell flat with the social game. She had a big mouth and was too open about making big moves.
I agree! She put a huge target on her back. It sucks that she was sent to the jury so early -.-
I know! I wish Kimmi/Keith and even Abi was sent before her. She was a pretty good player who had a great shot of winning. Pus she's enjoyable to watch. She really wants to play the game and always comes up with moves and as a viewer that's great to see. It sucks that they had a great plan and it got screwed because an idol was played. Especially since it was for Fishbach lol
I like Abi , but I would have love seeing Kass or Ciera play longer than her. Jeremy wasted his idol playing it on Fishback.
At first I though she was going to irrelevant, since she was hardly shown. But I end liking her and the way she played a lot.
I love her! She just fell flat with the social game. She had a big mouth and was too open about making big moves.
I agree! She put a huge target on her back. It sucks that she was sent to the jury so early -.-
I know! I wish Kimmi/Keith and even Abi was sent before her. She was a pretty good player who had a great shot of winning. Pus she's enjoyable to watch. She really wants to play the game and always comes up with moves and as a viewer that's great to see. It sucks that they had a great plan and it got screwed because an idol was played. Especially since it was for Fishbach lol
I like Abi , but I would have love seeing Kass or Ciera play longer than her. Jeremy wasted his idol playing it on Fishback. At first I though she was going to irrelevant, since she was hardly shown. But I end liking her and the way she played a lot.
Kass and Ciera definitely deserve to be there longer than Abi coming from a game point of view. Abi may be entertaining to some but she does nothing game wise! Jeremy definitely wasted his idol! Fish is gone now and Jeremy could have had two idols to protect himself later in the game. He is on the wrong side of the alliance now and will be a target coming up. Two idols could have helped him.
I love her! She just fell flat with the social game. She had a big mouth and was too open about making big moves.
I agree! She put a huge target on her back. It sucks that she was sent to the jury so early -.-
I know! I wish Kimmi/Keith and even Abi was sent before her. She was a pretty good player who had a great shot of winning. Pus she's enjoyable to watch. She really wants to play the game and always comes up with moves and as a viewer that's great to see. It sucks that they had a great plan and it got screwed because an idol was played. Especially since it was for Fishbach lol
I like Abi , but I would have love seeing Kass or Ciera play longer than her. Jeremy wasted his idol playing it on Fishback. At first I though she was going to irrelevant, since she was hardly shown. But I end liking her and the way she played a lot.
Kass and Ciera definitely deserve to be there longer than Abi coming from a game point of view. Abi may be entertaining to some but she does nothing game wise! Jeremy definitely wasted his idol! Fish is gone now and Jeremy could have had two idols to protect himself later in the game. He is on the wrong side of the alliance now and will be a target coming up. Two idols could have helped him.
I agree! I hope the older guy or Kimmi go home soon
Fischbach tricking Abi in the challenge like that was hilariou/great. Loved Jeremy wasting his idol and Kelley finding one. Loved Spencer being involved with making moves and winning. Sad Ciera went home over someone like Kimmi, but she wasn't playing that great of a game. I like her and her style, but her game was more about flashy, big moves, gotta do this, than playing a stronger social game. It was entertaining as hell but didn't work.
Keeping Joe safe was actually smart for Kelley, Keith, Spencer and Abi. If they got rid of him the would lose the numers and the other side would completely take over. Plus there is almost no chance he wins every other immunity so they will have other chances to take him out. If he does win every single challenge, then they deserve to vote him to win in the end.
Am I the only one who doesn't find Abi entertaning? She's so bad at the game that it's not even fun to watch her be crazy. Her snapping at people constantly and telling them she doesn't know how she's gonna vote is one of the worst game plays I've ever seen.
Her social game is actually very on point, the only people she ran into problems with was Savage. The show doesn't decpict it because her big moves agenda was more entertaining.
You just explained why people love Abi btw, she's so bad it's good. I douybt anybody loves her as a player,, but as a character.
I think she has an ok social game, better than a lot of people. If the show doesn't depict how good of a social game someone is, than are they really that great? She knows the game and knows how to play it and what moves to make for the most part. But her constantly opening her mouth, and coming up with big moves infront of so many people, especially when it was different people each episode, is what bit her in the ***. Sucks that she got voted out though, especially because they were making a big move but got screwed because of the idol. Her social game is what got her voted off in the end. A great social game to me is when people aren't necessarily that aware of it.
But that's what I'm saying. Am I the only one who doesn't like her character? A lot of times the crazy people are fun to watch and still have good games like K***. Abi has no chance of winning and her constant snapping at people when they are asking her her opinion is annoying lol.
No, the show definitely doesn't highlight things they don't need to. A ton of players were a lot better socially than shown like Tony from Cagayan, but they only chose to show his paranoia and idols and scehming. Not really, she approached the right people and had everything going right, an idol just ****** her here. (she was in the majority for the vote) I would consider a great social game one where you're very well liked, respected, and have good relatiosnhips with people, which she did.
K*** didn't have a good game, unless you're talking this season in which case she was only crazy for one episode. I don't really see the difference between her and any other crazy people who've been on the show. I love everything about her and am glad she's getting more scenes here and there. I don't look at survivor as striclty a game of strategy, so maybe that's why.
See to me I watch the show and Ponderosa here and there. If it's not shown on the show then I can't get a good opinion on it just based off of ***umptions or comments people have made after the show. There's no live feeds for me to get a complete accurate and personal view of someones game so I have to go with what they edit/show. To me "Tony had a better game than was shown" is useless. First, that's obvious. They are there way longer then what is shown, so we don't even get to see a quarter of their game. Second of all, if it wasn't shown, how can I judge what went on? And if that's said for Tony it can be said for people like Spencer too who you feel doesn't have a good game. See what happens there when you base it on things that weren't shown? Second, they are showing things like his paranoia for a reason because that is a huge part of his game, and how he was depicted.
If they didn't use the idol she probably would have been out next or soon anyway. There's a reason why 4 people wanted her out. If your social game makes you a target so early on is it really that great of a social game in the end? There's a lot of people who have had great social games who have made it far because they didn't make it so obvious. Again, I'm not arguing she wasn't a good player because I think she is. I just think her mouth (social game) is what got her introuble.
K*** is someone who is seen as a villain as is Abi. However, K*** is someone who comes up with stategy and make moves. Abi does nothing game wise. I don't look at Survivor as strictly strategy either. I like characters and personalities as well as comp beasts. But I only like them when they have a chance to win. Abi is a character and has a crazy personality, but her lack of game makes her kinda useless.
Kimmi can go, she's been useless and irrelevant this season based on her edit. Jeremy and Spencer no. Idk how anyone can say that. They are 2/3 people left who deserve to win and have a shot of winning (Kelley being the third).
Jeremy and Spencer are playing good/strong games. Kelley is up there too. Tasha may have a chance too and I would be ok with it. Joe has no chance of winning unless he wins every immunity left. Abi is a character but has no game/doesn't deserve to win. Kimmi and Keith are irrelevant based on their edit so far.
It's very easy to find out based off of interviews/podcasts and so on. Of course certain players can try to make themselves look better, but when the majroity is saying Tony was well liked and respected out there and people were only mad for his betrayls then... lol somehow you try to paint Spencer as a good player in Cagayn when on the show and even postgame have said Spencer wasn't good socially and would isolate hismelf early on and would come to people when he hadn't formed a decent relationship in the first place. Tony, Kass, Tasha, Jefra have all said things like this, it's verye asy to tell what it isn't shown and what people are trying to blame on editing. If most people are agreeing, it's very likely it happened. I'm glad you see that we never get the full picture, Kimmi is probvably the perfect example of this.
Yes, because they found her threatening, that doesn't mean her social game wasn't a good one at all. I find your second post there ironic consdiering you defend Spencer's social game lol. Someone not being able to win doesn't matter to me, Abi is still a super fun character to me. Same for people like Lil, Sugar, Katie (to an extent), etc
This isn't the end of the game. Literally anything can happen, and someone you thought would no be even considered a winner can become winner material.
Any thoughts on who get injured next episode? I wired it down to two people.
This isn't the end of the game. Literally anything can happen, and someone you thought would no be even considered a winner can become winner material.
Any thoughts on who get injured next episode? I wired it down to two people.
I definitely agree! But only 5 more people left to go and as of right now Kimmi, Keith and Abi don't deserve it. The seasons almost over and they've been barely shown all season. I'd be disappointed if they won over the 5 others who have been "main characters".
It's very easy to find out based off of interviews/podcasts and so on. Of course certain players can try to make themselves look better, but when the majroity is saying Tony was well liked and respected out there and people were only mad for his betrayls then... lol somehow you try to paint Spencer as a good player in Cagayn when on the show and even postgame have said Spencer wasn't good socially and would isolate hismelf early on and would come to people when he hadn't formed a decent relationship in the first place. Tony, Kass, Tasha, Jefra have all said things like this, it's verye asy to tell what it isn't shown and what people are trying to blame on editing. If most people are agreeing, it's very likely it happened. I'm glad you see that we never get the full picture, Kimmi is probvably the perfect example of this.
Yes, because they found her threatening, that doesn't mean her social game wasn't a good one at all. I find your second post there ironic consdiering you defend Spencer's social game lol. Someone not being able to win doesn't matter to me, Abi is still a super fun character to me. Same for people like Lil, Sugar, Katie (to an extent), etc
Yea I watch Big Brother and follow the feeds sometimes and the tweets most of the the time so I know that there is WAY more than what is shown. Especially with people playing the game. I am sure that is the story with Kimmi and Keith. It's a shame. But unfortunately this show isn't live and doesn't have feeds so from their edit I am not rooting for them to win.
Tasha was his closest ally and depend on Spencer in order to make it further in the game, Kass hated him, Jefra is irrelevant and Tony has made comments about Spencer's game being great on Cagayan. People said Mike had a horrible game last year because they didn't like him or agree with what he said/did. Yet he was the best players on the season.
It's not very easy to tell what is shown. They are out there for 936 hours and we only get like 10-11 hours of it. You can just depend on what people from the season say in order to get a good judgement on someone elses game. 1) People get eliminated before them. 2) People go on rewards and aren't there a lot. 3) People are not there following that one person 24/7 to see their game and strategy. Someone can have conversations and make deals with people without someone else knowing. It can be left out of editing as well as one of the players from the season not knowing about it.
I didn't say her social game wasn't a good one at all. I said she wasn't playing that great of a game. Her game was more about flashy, big moves, gotta do this, than playing a stronger social game. If people are targeting/against you then you when you haven't won 4 challenges in a row are probably doing something wrong.
As for Abi that's just subjective. Some will like her, some will hate her. I don't hate her but I would rather Kass or Ciera who have personality and game be there, over her who provides nothing but negative coments to people. It's like she doesn't know what game she is playing. People go up to her to make moves or to ask what she wants to do and she flips out on them and then says she wants to get them out.
I do defend Spencer's game.... I think he has a great social game. YOU'VE said his social game isn't any special but then YOU say Tony's social game is better than what is shown. That's thepoint. Nothing about that is me being ironic, it's you.
It's very easy to find out based off of interviews/podcasts and so on. Of course certain players can try to make themselves look better, but when the majroity is saying Tony was well liked and respected out there and people were only mad for his betrayls then... lol somehow you try to paint Spencer as a good player in Cagayn when on the show and even postgame have said Spencer wasn't good socially and would isolate hismelf early on and would come to people when he hadn't formed a decent relationship in the first place. Tony, Kass, Tasha, Jefra have all said things like this, it's verye asy to tell what it isn't shown and what people are trying to blame on editing. If most people are agreeing, it's very likely it happened. I'm glad you see that we never get the full picture, Kimmi is probvably the perfect example of this.
Yes, because they found her threatening, that doesn't mean her social game wasn't a good one at all. I find your second post there ironic consdiering you defend Spencer's social game lol. Someone not being able to win doesn't matter to me, Abi is still a super fun character to me. Same for people like Lil, Sugar, Katie (to an extent), etc
Yea I watch Big Brother and follow the feeds sometimes and the tweets most of the the time so I know that there is WAY more than what is shown. Especially with people playing the game. I am sure that is the story with Kimmi and Keith. It's a shame. But unfortunately this show isn't live and doesn't have feeds so from their edit I am not rooting for them to win.
Tasha was his closest ally and depend on Spencer in order to make it further in the game, Kass hated him, Jefra is irrelevant and Tony has made comments about Spencer's game being great on Cagayan. People said Mike had a horrible game last year because they didn't like him or agree with what he said/did. Yet he was the best players on the season.
It's not very easy to tell what is shown. They are out there for 936 hours and we only get like 10-11 hours of it. You can just depend on what people from the season say in order to get a good judgement on someone elses game. 1) People get eliminated before them. 2) People go on rewards and aren't there a lot. 3) People are not there following that one person 24/7 to see their game and strategy. Someone can have conversations and make deals with people without someone else knowing. It can be left out of editing as well as one of the players from the season not knowing about it.
I didn't say her social game wasn't a good one at all. I said she wasn't playing that great of a game. Her game was more about flashy, big moves, gotta do this, than playing a stronger social game. If people are targeting/against you then you when you haven't won 4 challenges in a row are probably doing something wrong.
As for Abi that's just subjective. Some will like her, some will hate her. I don't hate her but I would rather Kass or Ciera who have personality and game be there, over her who provides nothing but negative coments to people. It's like she doesn't know what game she is playing. People go up to her to make moves or to ask what she wants to do and she flips out on them and then says she wants to get them out.
I do defend Spencer's game.... I think he has a great social game. YOU'VE said his social game isn't any special but then YOU say Tony's social game is better than what is shown. That's thepoint. Nothing about that is me being ironic, it's you.
Exactly, Tasha has no reason to lie, but did say Spencer wasn't very social at all and early on and jusr spoke to Garrett and even postmerge, he didn't talk to enough people and even didn't check in with Kass individually at the merge at all. It's actually been said they made up postgame so she has no reason to lie there, so someone whow as there is irrelevant, lol? Tony has also gone on record to say how Spencer didn't socialize and check in with everyone enough.
Yes, but that's why you get the cast's overall opinions rather than just one opinion.Yes I've said Spencer doesn't have a good social game and Tony does and this is supproted by the people who were out there playing. I'm not grabbing this from an edited 42 minute show that the producers put together and paint a picture theyw ant us to see. Spencer was attached to Garrett early on, didn't check enough on his alliance come merge and make Kass feel secure, he didn't talk to a few people early on in the merge and had no good relationships to make people wanna take him farther except Tony wanting to use him as a target.
This season is amazing. I was so confused as to what was going on the entire time, what an amazing 2 hours. Everyone left besides maybe Kimmi and Keith all have good storylines going for them (well they all did before toinght too which is why I love this season)
Wentworth has been in minority for some time now and she just found another idol which makes things interesting
Joe was not voted out when he finally lost. Will he win more? If he loses will the same group save him?
Abi has been a swing vote for half of the game and has no loyalty. A complete wild card.
Spencer is a free agent who will vote out whoever stands in his way
Jeremy appears to be the ring leader, controlling a good portion of the game post-merge.
Kimmi appears to be loyal to Jeremy.
Tasha has been duped the last 4 tribals in a row. I'm sure this will light a fire under her *** to start playing hard like she did premerge and blindsiding a *****.
Keith no idea where his head is at but he's comic relief!
She's absolutely awful at the game though
Stephen played that awfully.
He played the odds that everyone wanted Joe out...logical but not this season
Abi finally getting the screentime she deserves this episode. <3
Hoping her Brazilian mom comes back and slays us again like she did on Philippines
Fischbach tricking Abi in the challenge like that was hilariou/great. Loved Jeremy wasting his idol and Kelley finding one. Loved Spencer being involved with making moves and winning. Sad Ciera went home over someone like Kimmi, but she wasn't playing that great of a game. I like her and her style, but her game was more about flashy, big moves, gotta do this, than playing a stronger social game. It was entertaining as hell but didn't work.
Keeping Joe safe was actually smart for Kelley, Keith, Spencer and Abi. If they got rid of him the would lose the numers and the other side would completely take over. Plus there is almost no chance he wins every other immunity so they will have other chances to take him out. If he does win every single challenge, then they deserve to vote him to win in the end.
Am I the only one who doesn't find Abi entertaning? She's so bad at the game that it's not even fun to watch her be crazy. Her snapping at people constantly and telling them she doesn't know how she's gonna vote is one of the worst game plays I've ever seen.
Kind of where I'm at. She has good one liners but horrific at this game.
Any Abi fans don't love her for the game at all, she's such a mess out there and has funny lines like the one ast Savage as he got voted out or telling Joe to lose the challenge for her. Sad about these two boots, but saw them coming after all the screentime Ciera got.
Her social game is actually very on point, the only people she ran into problems with was Savage. The show doesn't decpict it because her big moves agenda was more entertaining.
You just explained why people love Abi btw, she's so bad it's good. I douybt anybody loves her as a player,, but as a character.
I am in the minority that loves Ciera?
She's one of my all time favorites, shes' a lot better in BvW as a player and character though.
I have to watch it! But I am to lazy to watch it online
I love her! She just fell flat with the social game. She had a big mouth and was too open about making big moves.
I agree! She put a huge target on her back. It sucks that she was sent to the jury so early -.-
I think she has an ok social game, better than a lot of people. If the show doesn't depict how good of a social game someone is, than are they really that great? She knows the game and knows how to play it and what moves to make for the most part. But her constantly opening her mouth, and coming up with big moves infront of so many people, especially when it was different people each episode, is what bit her in the ***. Sucks that she got voted out though, especially because they were making a big move but got screwed because of the idol. Her social game is what got her voted off in the end. A great social game to me is when people aren't necessarily that aware of it.
But that's what I'm saying. Am I the only one who doesn't like her character? A lot of times the crazy people are fun to watch and still have good games like K***. Abi has no chance of winning and her constant snapping at people when they are asking her her opinion is annoying lol.
Can't wait for her Ponderosa video and her reunion with Kass <3
I know! I wish Kimmi/Keith and even Abi was sent before her. She was a pretty good player who had a great shot of winning. Pus she's enjoyable to watch. She really wants to play the game and always comes up with moves and as a viewer that's great to see. It sucks that they had a great plan and it got screwed because an idol was played. Especially since it was for Fishbach lol
No, the show definitely doesn't highlight things they don't need to. A ton of players were a lot better socially than shown like Tony from Cagayan, but they only chose to show his paranoia and idols and scehming. Not really, she approached the right people and had everything going right, an idol just ****** her here. (she was in the majority for the vote) I would consider a great social game one where you're very well liked, respected, and have good relatiosnhips with people, which she did.
K*** didn't have a good game, unless you're talking this season in which case she was only crazy for one episode. I don't really see the difference between her and any other crazy people who've been on the show. I love everything about her and am glad she's getting more scenes here and there. I don't look at survivor as striclty a game of strategy, so maybe that's why.
I like Abi , but I would have love seeing Kass or Ciera play longer than her. Jeremy wasted his idol playing it on Fishback.
At first I though she was going to irrelevant, since she was hardly shown. But I end liking her and the way she played a lot.
Kass and Ciera definitely deserve to be there longer than Abi coming from a game point of view. Abi may be entertaining to some but she does nothing game wise! Jeremy definitely wasted his idol! Fish is gone now and Jeremy could have had two idols to protect himself later in the game. He is on the wrong side of the alliance now and will be a target coming up. Two idols could have helped him.
I agree! I hope the older guy or Kimmi go home soon
I want Kimmi, Jeremy, and Spencer to go next.
See to me I watch the show and Ponderosa here and there. If it's not shown on the show then I can't get a good opinion on it just based off of ***umptions or comments people have made after the show. There's no live feeds for me to get a complete accurate and personal view of someones game so I have to go with what they edit/show. To me "Tony had a better game than was shown" is useless. First, that's obvious. They are there way longer then what is shown, so we don't even get to see a quarter of their game. Second of all, if it wasn't shown, how can I judge what went on? And if that's said for Tony it can be said for people like Spencer too who you feel doesn't have a good game. See what happens there when you base it on things that weren't shown? Second, they are showing things like his paranoia for a reason because that is a huge part of his game, and how he was depicted.
If they didn't use the idol she probably would have been out next or soon anyway. There's a reason why 4 people wanted her out. If your social game makes you a target so early on is it really that great of a social game in the end? There's a lot of people who have had great social games who have made it far because they didn't make it so obvious. Again, I'm not arguing she wasn't a good player because I think she is. I just think her mouth (social game) is what got her introuble.
K*** is someone who is seen as a villain as is Abi. However, K*** is someone who comes up with stategy and make moves. Abi does nothing game wise. I don't look at Survivor as strictly strategy either. I like characters and personalities as well as comp beasts. But I only like them when they have a chance to win. Abi is a character and has a crazy personality, but her lack of game makes her kinda useless.
Kimmi can go, she's been useless and irrelevant this season based on her edit. Jeremy and Spencer no. Idk how anyone can say that. They are 2/3 people left who deserve to win and have a shot of winning (Kelley being the third).
Jeremy and Spencer are playing good/strong games. Kelley is up there too. Tasha may have a chance too and I would be ok with it. Joe has no chance of winning unless he wins every immunity left. Abi is a character but has no game/doesn't deserve to win. Kimmi and Keith are irrelevant based on their edit so far.
It's very easy to find out based off of interviews/podcasts and so on. Of course certain players can try to make themselves look better, but when the majroity is saying Tony was well liked and respected out there and people were only mad for his betrayls then... lol somehow you try to paint Spencer as a good player in Cagayn when on the show and even postgame have said Spencer wasn't good socially and would isolate hismelf early on and would come to people when he hadn't formed a decent relationship in the first place. Tony, Kass, Tasha, Jefra have all said things like this, it's verye asy to tell what it isn't shown and what people are trying to blame on editing. If most people are agreeing, it's very likely it happened. I'm glad you see that we never get the full picture, Kimmi is probvably the perfect example of this.
Yes, because they found her threatening, that doesn't mean her social game wasn't a good one at all. I find your second post there ironic consdiering you defend Spencer's social game lol. Someone not being able to win doesn't matter to me, Abi is still a super fun character to me. Same for people like Lil, Sugar, Katie (to an extent), etc
This isn't the end of the game. Literally anything can happen, and someone you thought would no be even considered a winner can become winner material.
Any thoughts on who get injured next episode? I wired it down to two people.
I definitely agree! But only 5 more people left to go and as of right now Kimmi, Keith and Abi don't deserve it. The seasons almost over and they've been barely shown all season. I'd be disappointed if they won over the 5 others who have been "main characters".
Either Keith or Joe.
Yea I watch Big Brother and follow the feeds sometimes and the tweets most of the the time so I know that there is WAY more than what is shown. Especially with people playing the game. I am sure that is the story with Kimmi and Keith. It's a shame. But unfortunately this show isn't live and doesn't have feeds so from their edit I am not rooting for them to win.
Tasha was his closest ally and depend on Spencer in order to make it further in the game, Kass hated him, Jefra is irrelevant and Tony has made comments about Spencer's game being great on Cagayan. People said Mike had a horrible game last year because they didn't like him or agree with what he said/did. Yet he was the best players on the season.
It's not very easy to tell what is shown. They are out there for 936 hours and we only get like 10-11 hours of it. You can just depend on what people from the season say in order to get a good judgement on someone elses game. 1) People get eliminated before them. 2) People go on rewards and aren't there a lot. 3) People are not there following that one person 24/7 to see their game and strategy. Someone can have conversations and make deals with people without someone else knowing. It can be left out of editing as well as one of the players from the season not knowing about it.
I didn't say her social game wasn't a good one at all. I said she wasn't playing that great of a game. Her game was more about flashy, big moves, gotta do this, than playing a stronger social game. If people are targeting/against you then you when you haven't won 4 challenges in a row are probably doing something wrong.
As for Abi that's just subjective. Some will like her, some will hate her. I don't hate her but I would rather Kass or Ciera who have personality and game be there, over her who provides nothing but negative coments to people. It's like she doesn't know what game she is playing. People go up to her to make moves or to ask what she wants to do and she flips out on them and then says she wants to get them out.
I do defend Spencer's game.... I think he has a great social game. YOU'VE said his social game isn't any special but then YOU say Tony's social game is better than what is shown. That's thepoint. Nothing about that is me being ironic, it's you.
Exactly, Tasha has no reason to lie, but did say Spencer wasn't very social at all and early on and jusr spoke to Garrett and even postmerge, he didn't talk to enough people and even didn't check in with Kass individually at the merge at all. It's actually been said they made up postgame so she has no reason to lie there, so someone whow as there is irrelevant, lol? Tony has also gone on record to say how Spencer didn't socialize and check in with everyone enough.
Yes, but that's why you get the cast's overall opinions rather than just one opinion.Yes I've said Spencer doesn't have a good social game and Tony does and this is supproted by the people who were out there playing. I'm not grabbing this from an edited 42 minute show that the producers put together and paint a picture theyw ant us to see. Spencer was attached to Garrett early on, didn't check enough on his alliance come merge and make Kass feel secure, he didn't talk to a few people early on in the merge and had no good relationships to make people wanna take him farther except Tony wanting to use him as a target.
This season is amazing. I was so confused as to what was going on the entire time, what an amazing 2 hours. Everyone left besides maybe Kimmi and Keith all have good storylines going for them (well they all did before toinght too which is why I love this season)
Wentworth has been in minority for some time now and she just found another idol which makes things interesting
Joe was not voted out when he finally lost. Will he win more? If he loses will the same group save him?
Abi has been a swing vote for half of the game and has no loyalty. A complete wild card.
Spencer is a free agent who will vote out whoever stands in his way
Jeremy appears to be the ring leader, controlling a good portion of the game post-merge.
Kimmi appears to be loyal to Jeremy.
Tasha has been duped the last 4 tribals in a row. I'm sure this will light a fire under her *** to start playing hard like she did premerge and blindsiding a *****.
Keith no idea where his head is at but he's comic relief!
Jeremy, Tasha,, & Wentworth are in incredible positions to win, though they won't all 3 be together in the end, for obvious reasons.
Spencer has a chance, on the whim that there are bigger threats than him.
Keith & Kimmi have been rather invisible and have contributed nothing strategically.
Abi has been the goat since the beginning..
Joe has zero chance, another goat who will probably get picked off over Abi just because he's physical.
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