I have a feeling Ciera knew how the vote was going and that Kelley and Spencer weren't on board anymore so she wrote Savage as a **** you vote. I don't see a huge problem with it. I can see the logic there as she doesn't wanna vote Kass and hurt a sure jury vote and still has the option to work with Tasha too.
Great episode, sucky outcome! I'm worried where the season is headed if we're taking out the more enetrtaining people.
I have a feeling Ciera knew how the vote was going and that Kelley and Spencer weren't on board anymore so she wrote Savage as a **** you vote. I don't see a huge problem with it. I can see the logic there as she doesn't wanna vote Kass and hurt a sure jury vote and still has the option to work with Tasha too.
Great episode, sucky outcome! I'm worried where the season is headed if we're taking out the more enetrtaining people.
If one person flipped the other way she would have gone. You don't throw away a vote like that when your name is brought up for a split vote
I have a feeling Ciera knew how the vote was going and that Kelley and Spencer weren't on board anymore so she wrote Savage as a **** you vote. I don't see a huge problem with it. I can see the logic there as she doesn't wanna vote Kass and hurt a sure jury vote and still has the option to work with Tasha too.
Great episode, sucky outcome! I'm worried where the season is headed if we're taking out the more enetrtaining people.
If one person flipped the other way she would have gone. You don't throw away a vote like that when your name is brought up for a split vote
No because then it's 5-5 and they revote and Kass goes. It doesn't seem like a huge deal to me since it would take a big change for the vote to go through.
I have a feeling Ciera knew how the vote was going and that Kelley and Spencer weren't on board anymore so she wrote Savage as a **** you vote. I don't see a huge problem with it. I can see the logic there as she doesn't wanna vote Kass and hurt a sure jury vote and still has the option to work with Tasha too.
Great episode, sucky outcome! I'm worried where the season is headed if we're taking out the more enetrtaining people.
If one person flipped the other way she would have gone. You don't throw away a vote like that when your name is brought up for a split vote
No because then it's 5-5 and they revote and Kass goes. It doesn't seem like a huge deal to me since it would take a big change for the vote to go through.
A tied vote when it doesn't have to be. She shouldn't have even been that close to going home to begin with.
That's true, but I don't see it as a ba play, since it has some benefits to it like making it possible to work with Tasha and remaining loyal to Kass.
But why remain loyal to Kass when she's not in the game and in jury. She could have just wrote Kass name down and be done with it. Kass would have understand. I find it weird that it's hard for her to write Kass' name down and easy to write her mother's name on BvW
That's true, but I don't see it as a ba play, since it has some benefits to it like making it possible to work with Tasha and remaining loyal to Kass.
But why remain loyal to Kass when she's not in the game and in jury. She could have just wrote Kass name down and be done with it. Kass would have understand. I find it weird that it's hard for her to write Kass' name down and easy to write her mother's name on BvW
Agreed 100%. Also, she wouldn't be worried about hurting Kass' feelings by voting for her, if it was the other way around and Kass voted for Ciera.
That's true, but I don't see it as a ba play, since it has some benefits to it like making it possible to work with Tasha and remaining loyal to Kass.
But why remain loyal to Kass when she's not in the game and in jury. She could have just wrote Kass name down and be done with it. Kass would have understand. I find it weird that it's hard for her to write Kass' name down and easy to write her mother's name on BvW
I figured to ensure she'd have her jury vote there since Ciera wasn't the only person Kass was close to out there. I think with her mom it's easy to udnerstanf that she'd 100% understand and would be a lock vote for her.
That's true, but I don't see it as a ba play, since it has some benefits to it like making it possible to work with Tasha and remaining loyal to Kass.
But why remain loyal to Kass when she's not in the game and in jury. She could have just wrote Kass name down and be done with it. Kass would have understand. I find it weird that it's hard for her to write Kass' name down and easy to write her mother's name on BvW
Agreed 100%. Also, she wouldn't be worried about hurting Kass' feelings by voting for her, if it was the other way around and Kass voted for Ciera.
she should because Kass is a jury member and it's not like Ciera was Kass' only friend out there
That's true, but I don't see it as a ba play, since it has some benefits to it like making it possible to work with Tasha and remaining loyal to Kass.
But why remain loyal to Kass when she's not in the game and in jury. She could have just wrote Kass name down and be done with it. Kass would have understand. I find it weird that it's hard for her to write Kass' name down and easy to write her mother's name on BvW
Agreed 100%. Also, she wouldn't be worried about hurting Kass' feelings by voting for her, if it was the other way around and Kass voted for Ciera.
she should because Kass is a jury member and it's not like Ciera was Kass' only friend out there
Ciera has a long way to go though. Not voting for Kass at the first tribal council doesn't secure Kass' vote. Had Kass or someone else flipped and voted for Ciera, Ciera wouldn't have to worry about votes because she would have been on the jury. If Ciera flipped and voted for Kass to possibly save herself, I can see Kass respecting that as a game move. Also, there was still another vote for Tasha. Ciera could have acted like it was hers (although that probably wouldn't work since it would probably come out to Kass that it wasn't).
That's true, but I don't see it as a ba play, since it has some benefits to it like making it possible to work with Tasha and remaining loyal to Kass.
But why remain loyal to Kass when she's not in the game and in jury. She could have just wrote Kass name down and be done with it. Kass would have understand. I find it weird that it's hard for her to write Kass' name down and easy to write her mother's name on BvW
Agreed 100%. Also, she wouldn't be worried about hurting Kass' feelings by voting for her, if it was the other way around and Kass voted for Ciera.
she should because Kass is a jury member and it's not like Ciera was Kass' only friend out there
Ciera has a long way to go though. Not voting for Kass at the first tribal council doesn't secure Kass' vote. Had Kass or someone else flipped and voted for Ciera, Ciera wouldn't have to worry about votes because she would have been on the jury. If Ciera flipped and voted for Kass to possibly save herself, I can see Kass respecting that as a game move. Also, there was still another vote for Tasha. Ciera could have acted like it was hers (although that probably wouldn't work since it would probably come out to Kass that it wasn't).
Didn't we both just say that if someone flipped their vote it still goes to a tie? She would have needed two people to flip to be voted out there. Why would Ciera pretend to vote for Tasha and severe any ties with her?
That's true, but I don't see it as a ba play, since it has some benefits to it like making it possible to work with Tasha and remaining loyal to Kass.
But why remain loyal to Kass when she's not in the game and in jury. She could have just wrote Kass name down and be done with it. Kass would have understand. I find it weird that it's hard for her to write Kass' name down and easy to write her mother's name on BvW
Agreed 100%. Also, she wouldn't be worried about hurting Kass' feelings by voting for her, if it was the other way around and Kass voted for Ciera.
she should because Kass is a jury member and it's not like Ciera was Kass' only friend out there
Ciera has a long way to go though. Not voting for Kass at the first tribal council doesn't secure Kass' vote. Had Kass or someone else flipped and voted for Ciera, Ciera wouldn't have to worry about votes because she would have been on the jury. If Ciera flipped and voted for Kass to possibly save herself, I can see Kass respecting that as a game move. Also, there was still another vote for Tasha. Ciera could have acted like it was hers (although that probably wouldn't work since it would probably come out to Kass that it wasn't).
Didn't we both just say that if someone flipped their vote it still goes to a tie? She would have needed two people to flip to be voted out there. Why would Ciera pretend to vote for Tasha and severe any ties with her?
It didn't make sense for Ciera to vote for Savage over going with the plan and voting for Tasha, or saying screw the plan and voting for Kass to save herself. You are in no way going to change my mind on that. If anyone flipped it would have been a tie which puts Ciera in jeopardy of going home. Anyone can easily flip in a tie vote. ALso, if Kass had decided to vote for Ciera and got Spencer, Abi or Kelley to vote with her then Ciera would have been gone. It makes zero sense to me to throw away a vote when you are on the chopping block. She got lucky tonight, but in other cases she cold have easily been gone. And I was saying that Kass wouldn't know that the second vote for Tasha wasn't from Ciera when she left for Ponderosa. However, that would most likely/eventually get out to Kass that it wasn't Ciera so it wouldn't help her anyway.
When the plan is gonna fail and you know how the vote is going, yeah it's fine to not vote Tasha. I'm not trying to change your mind, just arguing why I didn't find it to be a bad move, more a riksy one with bigger cosnequences. I'll move on thoiugh since we're basically repeating oruselves at this point.
When the plan is gonna fail and you know how the vote is going, yeah it's fine to not vote Tasha. I'm not trying to change your mind, just arguing why I didn't find it to be a bad move, more a riksy one with bigger cosnequences. I'll move on thoiugh since we're basically repeating oruselves at this point.
I'm sure she definitely knew that the Tasha plan was a fail, which is why she decided to switch her vote and vote for someone else. But you can never be 100% sure that the people who told you that aren't going to vote for you. Definitely a ballsy/risky move, but it just didn't make sense. If they decided to flip the vote last minute and it was 5-4 Ciera, you would be saying her throwing her vote to Savage was a dumb move. But because she didn't go home it gets viewed as that her vote doesn't matter.
And I know you're not trying to change my mind and I love arguing points/my opinion. I just meant that nothing anyone says wold make me think that was a smart move. If anything, now she has an even bigger target on her back from Savage (for the lie she made up and the vote).
And I know you're not trying to change my mind and I love arguing points/my opinion. I just meant that nothing anyone says wold make me think that was a smart move. If anything, now she has an even bigger target on her back from Savage (for the lie she made up and the vote).
That doesn't really matter tho, her relatiosnhip with Savage is done as made obvious by Savage saying she's more dangerous and having more of an issue with her.
And I know you're not trying to change my mind and I love arguing points/my opinion. I just meant that nothing anyone says wold make me think that was a smart move. If anything, now she has an even bigger target on her back from Savage (for the lie she made up and the vote).
That doesn't really matter tho, her relatiosnhip with Savage is done as made obvious by Savage saying she's more dangerous and having more of an issue with her.
He didn't say that to her though so she doesn't know that. Also, things change daily in Survivor. You can always rekindle a relationship/flip votes when you are on the bottom. I'm not saying it was a bad idea because obviously they aren't on the same page, but Ciera voting for Savage could have made things worse.
I'm glad Tasha & Ciera stayed, even tho Ciera is probably screwed.
Also i like Stephen less and less every episode, I didn't hate him as much on his first season. That poem was weird as hell. And the whole "three small women being targeted first " like shut the hell up all of them out preform your nerdy ***.
I'm glad K*** is on the jury, I feel like its a slap in the face to get voted off the merge first and not make the jury.
When Kass and Tasha had their little sit down as the battle of the minds, and then ended it with "game on" as both got up and immediately turned the camp upside down..........
When Kass and Tasha had their little sit down as the battle of the minds, and then ended it with "game on" as both got up and immediately turned the camp upside down..........
>>>>>>>>
I think I came on myself.
So good! The drawing the line in the sand gave me chills lol. Sucks for Tasha Kass made the jury tho.
Ciera should have written down Kass IMO but it wasn't nearly as bad of a game move as some are claiming
I'm only claiming it as a bad move had Kass or someone else flipped and voted Ciera. Ciera not voting Kass as a safety net is why it was a bad move. People are only saying it's not nearly as bad as a move because she stayed.
Kass Ponderosa video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKocesO_gtY
Missed the episode, if ceira left. Good riddance!
I have a feeling Ciera knew how the vote was going and that Kelley and Spencer weren't on board anymore so she wrote Savage as a **** you vote. I don't see a huge problem with it. I can see the logic there as she doesn't wanna vote Kass and hurt a sure jury vote and still has the option to work with Tasha too.
Great episode, sucky outcome! I'm worried where the season is headed if we're taking out the more enetrtaining people.
If one person flipped the other way she would have gone. You don't throw away a vote like that when your name is brought up for a split vote
No because then it's 5-5 and they revote and Kass goes. It doesn't seem like a huge deal to me since it would take a big change for the vote to go through.
I'm happy Kass went home only because I thought the thumbnail of this thread was a spoiler to Ciera going home. Lol
Damn Kass flopped big time ******
Queen Abi still there though <3
A tied vote when it doesn't have to be. She shouldn't have even been that close to going home to begin with.
That's true, but I don't see it as a ba play, since it has some benefits to it like making it possible to work with Tasha and remaining loyal to Kass.
But why remain loyal to Kass when she's not in the game and in jury. She could have just wrote Kass name down and be done with it. Kass would have understand. I find it weird that it's hard for her to write Kass' name down and easy to write her mother's name on BvW
Agreed 100%. Also, she wouldn't be worried about hurting Kass' feelings by voting for her, if it was the other way around and Kass voted for Ciera.
I figured to ensure she'd have her jury vote there since Ciera wasn't the only person Kass was close to out there. I think with her mom it's easy to udnerstanf that she'd 100% understand and would be a lock vote for her.
she should because Kass is a jury member and it's not like Ciera was Kass' only friend out there
Ciera has a long way to go though. Not voting for Kass at the first tribal council doesn't secure Kass' vote. Had Kass or someone else flipped and voted for Ciera, Ciera wouldn't have to worry about votes because she would have been on the jury. If Ciera flipped and voted for Kass to possibly save herself, I can see Kass respecting that as a game move. Also, there was still another vote for Tasha. Ciera could have acted like it was hers (although that probably wouldn't work since it would probably come out to Kass that it wasn't).
Didn't we both just say that if someone flipped their vote it still goes to a tie? She would have needed two people to flip to be voted out there. Why would Ciera pretend to vote for Tasha and severe any ties with her?
It didn't make sense for Ciera to vote for Savage over going with the plan and voting for Tasha, or saying screw the plan and voting for Kass to save herself. You are in no way going to change my mind on that. If anyone flipped it would have been a tie which puts Ciera in jeopardy of going home. Anyone can easily flip in a tie vote. ALso, if Kass had decided to vote for Ciera and got Spencer, Abi or Kelley to vote with her then Ciera would have been gone. It makes zero sense to me to throw away a vote when you are on the chopping block. She got lucky tonight, but in other cases she cold have easily been gone. And I was saying that Kass wouldn't know that the second vote for Tasha wasn't from Ciera when she left for Ponderosa. However, that would most likely/eventually get out to Kass that it wasn't Ciera so it wouldn't help her anyway.
When the plan is gonna fail and you know how the vote is going, yeah it's fine to not vote Tasha. I'm not trying to change your mind, just arguing why I didn't find it to be a bad move, more a riksy one with bigger cosnequences. I'll move on thoiugh since we're basically repeating oruselves at this point.
I'm sure she definitely knew that the Tasha plan was a fail, which is why she decided to switch her vote and vote for someone else. But you can never be 100% sure that the people who told you that aren't going to vote for you. Definitely a ballsy/risky move, but it just didn't make sense. If they decided to flip the vote last minute and it was 5-4 Ciera, you would be saying her throwing her vote to Savage was a dumb move. But because she didn't go home it gets viewed as that her vote doesn't matter.
And I know you're not trying to change my mind and I love arguing points/my opinion. I just meant that nothing anyone says wold make me think that was a smart move. If anything, now she has an even bigger target on her back from Savage (for the lie she made up and the vote).
That doesn't really matter tho, her relatiosnhip with Savage is done as made obvious by Savage saying she's more dangerous and having more of an issue with her.
What shocked me was Abi flipping on Tasha so fast. She's the real chaos of the group. Girl has no loyalty.
He didn't say that to her though so she doesn't know that. Also, things change daily in Survivor. You can always rekindle a relationship/flip votes when you are on the bottom. I'm not saying it was a bad idea because obviously they aren't on the same page, but Ciera voting for Savage could have made things worse.
I'm glad Tasha & Ciera stayed, even tho Ciera is probably screwed.
Also i like Stephen less and less every episode, I didn't hate him as much on his first season. That poem was weird as hell. And the whole "three small women being targeted first " like shut the hell up all of them out preform your nerdy ***.
I'm glad K*** is on the jury, I feel like its a slap in the face to get voted off the merge first and not make the jury.
Nooo!! not happy Kass went home. I kinda liked how she played the game, even though I do think it had some flaws. But she was fun to watch.
Rooting now for Spencer and Tasha.
So far I'm really liking this season.
When Kass and Tasha had their little sit down as the battle of the minds, and then ended it with "game on" as both got up and immediately turned the camp upside down..........
>>>>>>>>
I think I came on myself.
So good! The drawing the line in the sand gave me chills lol. Sucks for Tasha Kass made the jury tho.
It does kidna suck that Kass got eliminated but honestly she did it to herself. Chaos Kass backfired or her big time.
And Ciera was an Idiot. Now she's probably on the outs and will be gone very soon now.
She already was, savage hated her for voting out Woo and wanted to vote her out instead of Kass anyway.
Ciera should have written down Kass IMO but it wasn't nearly as bad of a game move as some are claiming
I'm only claiming it as a bad move had Kass or someone else flipped and voted Ciera. Ciera not voting Kass as a safety net is why it was a bad move. People are only saying it's not nearly as bad as a move because she stayed.
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