^ I doubt most voters knew half the things you mentioned. I consider myself to be an informed voter and I had no idea Kamala held hands with Liz Cheney (was there more to it than this?). Dem voters cannot keep letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. Kamala or Trump was the option. Republicans who don't like Trump fall in line. Liberals will stay on a moral high horse to nowhere.
With that said, I agree that Democrats are not going to gain voters with the same moderate candidates they keep shoving at us. At this point Dems should just elect an actual extreme far left candidate because the right will fear monger either way.
But also, misogyny 100% played a part into why Kamala lost. Women are always criticized more than men for slightest thing.
^ I doubt most voters knew half the things you mentioned. I consider myself to be an informed voter and I had no idea Kamala held hands with Liz Cheney (was there more to it than this?). Dem voters cannot keep letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. Kamala or Trump was the option. Republicans who don't like Trump fall in line. Liberals will stay on a moral high horse to nowhere.
With that said, I agree that Democrats are not going to gain voters with the same moderate candidates they keep shoving at us. At this point Dems should just elect an actual extreme far left candidate because the right will fear monger either way.
But also, misogyny 100% played a part into why Kamala lost. Women are always criticized more than men for slightest thing.
Cheney and Kamala have been teaming up for a while now to appeal to moderate voters lol. It's been a whole thing. The democrats and progessives went through literal hell during the bush administration protesting the Cheny's crimes against humanity. Kamala doing that was a slap in the face. But she's a run of the mill neolib, obviously.
Trump administration sucks but one thing they've been successful at is spending the past decade trying to sway moderates and centrists, especially white voters. White people and men are successfully under the illusion that they are the victims and are 'under attack,' and the vast majority of apolitical moderate Americans think that Biden is what caused inflation. These two things combined already means that they are already under Trumps wing. Kamala wasted her entire time campaigning to an audience that didn't even exist. Meanwhile she shut down any sign of stopping the massacre of over 100,000 people in Gaza, had no real new progressive opinions besides the slop that neolibs have been pushing for years.
Racism and misogyny absolutely had a part in it, as it always does in America. But keep in mind, Ilhan Omar, a Somali American muslim woman just won by a landslide in the same exact region that Kamala lost. Obviously there is way more at play here.
Also, gay marriage and abortion rights were both failed to be codified under the Obama administration. That's why we have these problems in the first place. Because people still believe that democrats care about those things instead of just using those things at a cat and mouse game to get voters on their side.
^ I doubt most voters knew half the things you mentioned. I consider myself to be an informed voter and I had no idea Kamala held hands with Liz Cheney (was there more to it than this?). Dem voters cannot keep letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. Kamala or Trump was the option. Republicans who don't like Trump fall in line. Liberals will stay on a moral high horse to nowhere.
With that said, I agree that Democrats are not going to gain voters with the same moderate candidates they keep shoving at us. At this point Dems should just elect an actual extreme far left candidate because the right will fear monger either way.
But also, misogyny 100% played a part into why Kamala lost. Women are always criticized more than men for slightest thing.
Cheney and Kamala have been teaming up for a while now to appeal to moderate voters lol. It's been a whole thing. The democrats and progessives went through literal hell during the bush administration protesting the Cheny's crimes against humanity. Kamala doing that was a slap in the face. But she's a run of the mill neolib, obviously.
Trump administration sucks but one thing they've been successful at is spending the past decade trying to sway moderates and centrists, especially white voters. White people and men are successfully under the illusion that they are the victims and are 'under attack,' and the vast majority of apolitical moderate Americans think that Biden is what caused inflation. These two things combined already means that they are already under Trumps wing. Kamala wasted her entire time campaigning to an audience that didn't even exist. Meanwhile she shut down any sign of stopping the massacre of over 100,000 people in Gaza, had no real new progressive opinions besides the slop that neolibs have been pushing for years.
Racism and misogyny absolutely had a part in it, as it always does in America. But keep in mind, Ilhan Omar, a Somali American muslim woman just won by a landslide in the same exact region that Kamala lost. Obviously there is way more at play here.
Also, gay marriage and abortion rights were both failed to be codified under the Obama administration. That's why we have these problems in the first place. Because people still believe that democrats care about those things instead of just using those things at a cat and mouse game to get voters on their side.
Shocked to see someone on Vevmo typing something I was thinking lmao.
The right excels at delivering misinformation and fear politics to their base to galvanize them to vote. It works. Democrats are too moral to employ those same tactics. That's why you have people thinking the President has a button they can push to control inflation and gas prices.
Kamala is a moderate candidate. Obama is a moderate. Biden is a moderate. She had two months to throw together a campaign. Progressives can't get their candidates past the primary. Expecting Kamala to be your progressive dream candidate is unrealistic. If young progressives are going to be this stubborn that they can't even vote for Kamala then Dems have no hope.
And what, Ilhan Omar won the only liberal district in Minnesota. Kamala won that state and the same district by a landslide. If Kamala ran the same exact campaign but was a white man, she would have won. Even some of the things you're saying like she doesn't have charisma and talks down to people would not even be in question if she was man. We're attacking Kamala for personality traits when the alternative is Trump, lol.
Democrats aren't actively trying to end gay marriage and abortion rights. The other party is.
The right excels at delivering misinformation and fear politics to their base to galvanize them to vote. It works. Democrats are too moral to employ those same tactics. That's why you have people thinking the President has a button they can push to control inflation and gas prices.
Kamala is a moderate candidate. Obama is a moderate. Biden is a moderate. She had two months to throw together a campaign. Progressives can't get their candidates past the primary. Expecting Kamala to be your progressive dream candidate is unrealistic. If young progressives are going to be this stubborn that they can't even vote for Kamala then Dems have no hope.
And what, Ilhan Omar won the only liberal district in Minnesota. Kamala won that state and the same district by a landslide. If Kamala ran the same exact campaign but was a white man, she would have won. Even some of the things you're saying like she doesn't have charisma and talks down to people would not even be in question if she was man. We're attacking Kamala for personality traits when the alternative is Trump, lol.
Democrats aren't actively trying to end gay marriage and abortion rights. The other party is.
looking it up i got the Omar thing wrong that's my bad, i think i was looking at early voting before it was made official. regardless, omar won by 75% and kamala only by 51%. minnesota which has a high muslim american population, probably played into this as once again kamala vowed to continue a holocaust. when you have to choose 100% hitler over 99% hitler, the burden on the vote falls on the horrible campaign, not the voters not wanting to endorse mass murder and be satisfied with 99% hitler. i don't know why that's a question. obama, clinton, biden, all are responsible for terror all across the globe, just as much as republicans. kamala couldn't answer questions correctly, turned her nose on such a large sector of the left, did literally nothing substantial to distance herself from biden who everyone hated. she literally bragged about how much more secure the border was under obama and promised a lethal military (fun fact, there were more mass deportations under the obama administration than trumps lol). the dems are chronically out of touch.
it is what it is. obviously seeing MAGAts getting lit last night probably having orgies and doing ketamine while celebrating their victory makes me sick and the country is headed in a bad direction,. but kamala and her whole neolib group that has been running things are also fascist, and they deserve the loss
the fact that this country is so overturned to the right that hoping for a politican to not enact genocide is being considered too wishful for a dream progressive candidate. we're cooked
Omar won District 5 by 75%. Kamala won the entire state by 51%. Unfair comparison. I can't comment on your comments like "Kamala vowed to continue a holocaust" because I admittedly don't have enough knowledge on the topic. Usually like your commentary Null, but sounds like an exaggeration, and comparing them to Hitler is wild.
How did the Biden administration enact genocide? What would you have rather Kamala's stance be on Israel?
Omar won District 5 by 75%. Kamala won the entire state by 51%. Unfair comparison. I can't comment on your comments like "Kamala vowed to continue a Holocaust" because I admittedly don't have enough knowledge on the topic. Usually like your commentary Null, but sounds like an exaggeration, and comparing them to Hitler is wild.
How did the Biden administration enact genocide? What would you have rather Kamala's stance be on Israel?
The Biden Administration has transfered billions of dollars worth of weapons and bombs to aid the war in gaza, which predicts a death toll of up to 200,000 so far. They back an apartheid state in which millions of people were displaced, killed, rounded up into confined areas in which most of their original land was stolen, and have been under oppression since 1948. It's an ethnic cleansing clear as day if I've ever seen one, and a population in which 45% of are children are getting killed by US funded drone strikes every day is something that i wish i can say is new, but democrats and republicans have been doing it for a century. Sounds hitler-esque to me. I've seen enough videos of children being killed in the worst ways possible to realize that both of these parties are absolutely henious and evil. yes there will never be a perfect liberal candiate because they are all right wing as **** and in many ways are even more right wing than republicans, especially when it comes to foreign policy and immigration. it's a facade bruh
I hate getting political on vevmo cause this is literally... vevmo LOL sometimes i can't resist. i'm done talking about this here but my messages are open if you want to continue
I hate getting political on vevmo cause this is literally... vevmo LOL sometimes i can't resist. i'm done talking about this here but my messages are open if you want to continue
<3 Fair enough. I can't help myself sometimes either, lol. I have to look into what you're saying more. But your political views aren't the people I'm against anyways.
I hate getting political on vevmo cause this is literally... vevmo LOL sometimes i can't resist. i'm done talking about this here but my messages are open if you want to continue
I enjoyed what you had to say, you can DM me if you need to rant at somebody about it/can't help yourself. Although, I probably won't respond.
I hate getting political on vevmo cause this is literally... vevmo LOL sometimes i can't resist. i'm done talking about this here but my messages are open if you want to continue
I enjoyed what you had to say, you can DM me if you need to rant at somebody about it/can't help yourself. Although, I probably won't respond.
biden before the dementia set in, i agree, that's why he won in 2020 cause people wanted a safe, comfortable candidate even though he wasn't the most progressive option. but remember the reason he dropped out was because his slow *** had the worst most embarr***ing presidental debate in US history and no one was gonna vote for him at that point, even obama had to come out on twitter and be like Ummmm yikes sorry yall. dude can barely speak anymore and his approval rating was so low because people think that inflation was caused by him walking in the white house and clicking some random inflation button instead of it being for a complex mix of reasons like covid.
^ I doubt most voters knew half the things you mentioned. I consider myself to be an informed voter and I had no idea Kamala held hands with Liz Cheney (was there more to it than this?). Dem voters cannot keep letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. Kamala or Trump was the option. Republicans who don't like Trump fall in line. Liberals will stay on a moral high horse to nowhere.
With that said, I agree that Democrats are not going to gain voters with the same moderate candidates they keep shoving at us. At this point Dems should just elect an actual extreme far left candidate because the right will fear monger either way.
But also, misogyny 100% played a part into why Kamala lost. Women are always criticized more than men for slightest thing.
Clock it baby.
Cheney and Kamala have been teaming up for a while now to appeal to moderate voters lol. It's been a whole thing. The democrats and progessives went through literal hell during the bush administration protesting the Cheny's crimes against humanity. Kamala doing that was a slap in the face. But she's a run of the mill neolib, obviously.
Trump administration sucks but one thing they've been successful at is spending the past decade trying to sway moderates and centrists, especially white voters. White people and men are successfully under the illusion that they are the victims and are 'under attack,' and the vast majority of apolitical moderate Americans think that Biden is what caused inflation. These two things combined already means that they are already under Trumps wing. Kamala wasted her entire time campaigning to an audience that didn't even exist. Meanwhile she shut down any sign of stopping the massacre of over 100,000 people in Gaza, had no real new progressive opinions besides the slop that neolibs have been pushing for years.
Racism and misogyny absolutely had a part in it, as it always does in America. But keep in mind, Ilhan Omar, a Somali American muslim woman just won by a landslide in the same exact region that Kamala lost. Obviously there is way more at play here.
Also, gay marriage and abortion rights were both failed to be codified under the Obama administration. That's why we have these problems in the first place. Because people still believe that democrats care about those things instead of just using those things at a cat and mouse game to get voters on their side.
Shocked to see someone on Vevmo typing something I was thinking lmao.
The right excels at delivering misinformation and fear politics to their base to galvanize them to vote. It works. Democrats are too moral to employ those same tactics. That's why you have people thinking the President has a button they can push to control inflation and gas prices.
Kamala is a moderate candidate. Obama is a moderate. Biden is a moderate. She had two months to throw together a campaign. Progressives can't get their candidates past the primary. Expecting Kamala to be your progressive dream candidate is unrealistic. If young progressives are going to be this stubborn that they can't even vote for Kamala then Dems have no hope.
And what, Ilhan Omar won the only liberal district in Minnesota. Kamala won that state and the same district by a landslide. If Kamala ran the same exact campaign but was a white man, she would have won. Even some of the things you're saying like she doesn't have charisma and talks down to people would not even be in question if she was man. We're attacking Kamala for personality traits when the alternative is Trump, lol.
Democrats aren't actively trying to end gay marriage and abortion rights. The other party is.
looking it up i got the Omar thing wrong that's my bad, i think i was looking at early voting before it was made official. regardless, omar won by 75% and kamala only by 51%. minnesota which has a high muslim american population, probably played into this as once again kamala vowed to continue a holocaust. when you have to choose 100% hitler over 99% hitler, the burden on the vote falls on the horrible campaign, not the voters not wanting to endorse mass murder and be satisfied with 99% hitler. i don't know why that's a question. obama, clinton, biden, all are responsible for terror all across the globe, just as much as republicans. kamala couldn't answer questions correctly, turned her nose on such a large sector of the left, did literally nothing substantial to distance herself from biden who everyone hated. she literally bragged about how much more secure the border was under obama and promised a lethal military (fun fact, there were more mass deportations under the obama administration than trumps lol). the dems are chronically out of touch.
it is what it is. obviously seeing MAGAts getting lit last night probably having orgies and doing ketamine while celebrating their victory makes me sick and the country is headed in a bad direction,. but kamala and her whole neolib group that has been running things are also fascist, and they deserve the loss
the fact that this country is so overturned to the right that hoping for a politican to not enact genocide is being considered too wishful for a dream progressive candidate. we're cooked
I take it you didn't vote for Kamala, lol.
Omar won District 5 by 75%. Kamala won the entire state by 51%. Unfair comparison. I can't comment on your comments like "Kamala vowed to continue a holocaust" because I admittedly don't have enough knowledge on the topic. Usually like your commentary Null, but sounds like an exaggeration, and comparing them to Hitler is wild.
How did the Biden administration enact genocide? What would you have rather Kamala's stance be on Israel?
If Progressives think the solution is let Republicans keep winning until we get the perfect liberal candidate then we are cooked. <3
The Biden Administration has transfered billions of dollars worth of weapons and bombs to aid the war in gaza, which predicts a death toll of up to 200,000 so far. They back an apartheid state in which millions of people were displaced, killed, rounded up into confined areas in which most of their original land was stolen, and have been under oppression since 1948. It's an ethnic cleansing clear as day if I've ever seen one, and a population in which 45% of are children are getting killed by US funded drone strikes every day is something that i wish i can say is new, but democrats and republicans have been doing it for a century. Sounds hitler-esque to me. I've seen enough videos of children being killed in the worst ways possible to realize that both of these parties are absolutely henious and evil. yes there will never be a perfect liberal candiate because they are all right wing as **** and in many ways are even more right wing than republicans, especially when it comes to foreign policy and immigration. it's a facade bruh
I hate getting political on vevmo cause this is literally... vevmo LOL sometimes i can't resist. i'm done talking about this here but my messages are open if you want to continue
<3 Fair enough. I can't help myself sometimes either, lol. I have to look into what you're saying more. But your political views aren't the people I'm against anyways.
This country hates women and a black woman? Tuh Biden's cold body in a casket would have had a better chance people were not voting a woman in there
I enjoyed what you had to say, you can DM me if you need to rant at somebody about it/can't help yourself. Although, I probably won't respond.
biden woulda done better than kamala sadly
LOL. Thanks
biden before the dementia set in, i agree, that's why he won in 2020 cause people wanted a safe, comfortable candidate even though he wasn't the most progressive option. but remember the reason he dropped out was because his slow *** had the worst most embarr***ing presidental debate in US history and no one was gonna vote for him at that point, even obama had to come out on twitter and be like Ummmm yikes sorry yall. dude can barely speak anymore and his approval rating was so low because people think that inflation was caused by him walking in the white house and clicking some random inflation button instead of it being for a complex mix of reasons like covid.
Hey, all you gays! Are you a top or a bottom?
Yall only like to talk about boring sh i t.
straight people live in a whole other universe than me because i just had to google who the **** are tyson and paul and why are they fighting
i saw it on twitter i thought it was some new reality show then i saw locals on facebook talking about it. i was like ummm
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