I mean personally,the way Zach did jonna on and off the show will never sit well with me. There's more to how he treats women than just being a *******. He got mad at Jenna for possibly kissing Bruno even though he'd cheated on her. Sure,people mature but one picture where they seem to be currently happy doesn't prove maturity.
I don't think Zach got mad at Jenna for kissing Bruno, actually the opposite, he comforted her. He was dragged to **** and back for Jonna and for "Brooke?" on Rivals 3, which I think he deserved. It doesn't mean that people can't learn and grow. I'm just saying.. ya'll hold the stuff people did YEARS ago against them, which I think is kind of crazy. If people show growth, give them a chance imo.Zach kind of reminds me of Tim Riggins on Friday Night Lights, which may be why I have a soft spot for him. lol
I think he still have the same mentality but after the backlash he have got, he has elarn tp bite his tongue.
Zach hasn’t shown growth he’s just gotten less screen time
Really? Cause on his RW seasons he couldn't even hang around gays, and on early Challenges he disrespected women. Ya'll are so quick to disrespect how someone was raised and how it might be hard for them to grow as people, especially with all their faults aired for us all to see.
Now he's openly friends with gays, and seemingly treats Jenna better. If they're happy together and maturing as people, I say great. But ya'll stay bitter and depressing I guess.. Jesus.
Well for the record, my faves are currently getting to the bag & never have/never will need to chase a sorry, no-good, cheating *** man that embarr***ed them multiple times on the show to get it so they can't relate. My main just got back from trekking through the UK as a matter of fact.
"Well they got more likes than your faves!" That line of thinking is basic in itself & JayTea's point is proven.
I never mentioned likes, my only point was that they seem to have matured and are happy together, so leave them be. Ya'll are dragging them for shit they did in the past lol. Like I'm sure you all have been perfect in past relationships. Jenna's quote is very true actually. Sometimes love is ugly and you both have to learn and grow together.
Constant negativity on here is just a little tiring when it's just a ******* wedding pic and a nice quote about how they're happy together.
Zach hasn’t shown growth he’s just gotten less screen time
Really? Cause on his RW seasons he couldn't even hang around gays, and on early Challenges he disrespected women. Ya'll are so quick to disrespect how someone was raised and how it might be hard for them to grow as people, especially with all their faults aired for us all to see.Now he's openly friends with gays, and seemingly treats Jenna better. If they're happy together and maturing as people, I say great. But ya'll stay bitter and depressing I guess.. Jesus.
Who’s criticism of Zach is that he was conservative at one point? Nobody’s
JayTea wrote:Zach hasn’t shown growth he’s just gotten less screen time
Really? Cause on his RW seasons he couldn't even hang around gays, and on early Challenges he disrespected women. Ya'll are so quick to disrespect how someone was raised and how it might be hard for them to grow as people, especially with all their faults aired for us all to see.Now he's openly friends with gays, and seemingly treats Jenna better. If they're happy together and maturing as people, I say great. But ya'll stay bitter and depressing I guess.. Jesus.
Who’s criticism of Zach is that he was conservative at one point? Nobody’s
I mean those are the general criticisms of Zach, but yes I'm sorry, you didn't mention that.
I just said hopefully he's treating her better, and it seems he is.
I never mentioned likes, my only point was that they seem to have matured and are happy together, so leave them be. Ya'll are dragging them for shit they did in the past lol. Like I'm sure you all have been perfect in past relationships. Jenna's quote is very true actually. Sometimes love is ugly and you both have to learn and grow together.Constant negativity on here is just a little tiring when it's just a ******* wedding pic and a nice quote about how they're happy together.
eh we've been much more critical of less. Some of us not caring for it shouldn't defer you from enjoying it. Be more confident in your interests
And TBH I doubt Zach was all that conservative in the first place. I mean he was hanging around with Frank in a speedo on Seasons 2. You don't just be all conservative one minute and then do that shit the next. He was probably was faking it to get on the challenge.
I never mentioned likes, my only point was that they seem to have matured and are happy together, so leave them be. Ya'll are dragging them for shit they did in the past lol. Like I'm sure you all have been perfect in past relationships. Jenna's quote is very true actually. Sometimes love is ugly and you both have to learn and grow together.Constant negativity on here is just a little tiring when it's just a ******* wedding pic and a nice quote about how they're happy together.
eh we've been much more critical of less. Some of us not caring for it shouldn't defer you from enjoying it. Be more confident in your interests
Tony was supposed to have grown but I’ve heard production just doesn’t show his antics. Wouldn’t be surprised if they did the same with Zach since he’s affiliated with Jenna
And TBH I doubt Zach was all that conservative in the first place. I mean he was hanging around with Frank in a speedo on Seasons 2. You don't just be all conservative one minute and then do that shit the next. He was probably was faking it to get on the challenge.
He said he'd never been around gay people in his life and was clearly uncomfortable during his RW season. Once he actually spent some time with Frank and Sam, you can tell his opinions started to change.
Tony was supposed to have grown but I've heard production just doesn't show his antics. Wouldn't be surprised if they did the same with Zach since he's affiliated with Jenna
Grouping people together usually isn't a good idea. They dragged him for filth on Exes 2, and Rivals 3 and he wasn't even on the latter. You can't just assume he's still being a ******* cause others are.
Maybe he is treating her better, have no way of knowing. I’ve just found that doing multiple challenges is the worst thing for real friendships and relationships. I don’t think either Zach or Jenna are anywhere near done with challenges so I doubt the drama is over.
And TBH I doubt Zach was all that conservative in the first place. I mean he was hanging around with Frank in a speedo on Seasons 2. You don't just be all conservative one minute and then do that shit the next. He was probably was faking it to get on the challenge.
He said he'd never been around gay people in his life and was clearly uncomfortable during his RW season. Once he actually spent some time with Frank and Sam, you can tell his opinions started to change.I mean, I call that growth. But whatever.
I mean all of that could've been geunie but he could've been bullshitting. Wouldn't be the first time people lied or played a character on these shows.
Debut Album wrote:And TBH I doubt Zach was all that conservative in the first place. I mean he was hanging around with Frank in a speedo on Seasons 2. You don't just be all conservative one minute and then do that shit the next. He was probably was faking it to get on the challenge.
He said he'd never been around gay people in his life and was clearly uncomfortable during his RW season. Once he actually spent some time with Frank and Sam, you can tell his opinions started to change.I mean, I call that growth. But whatever.
I mean all of that could've been geunie but he could've been bullshitting. Wouldn't be the first time people lied or played a character on these shows.
He grew up in a town of less than 8,000 people. I'm going to say that it's genuine lol.
I like how y'all comment on their "growth" like you know them in real life. Also, some of y'all have been whack ******* on this site for years and shown no growth...so y'all really need to quit judging.
I like how y'all comment on their "growth" like you know them in real life. Also, some of y'all have been whack ******* on this site for years and shown no growth...so y'all really need to quit judging.
Then why do we talk about any of these people? We don't know any of them in real life lol
I like how y'all comment on their "growth" like you know them in real life. Also, some of y'all have been whack ******* on this site for years and shown no growth...so y'all really need to quit judging.
Then why do we talk about any of these people? We don't know any of them in real life lol
Talk about what you see on tv and social media but when you get into their "growth" it's too much.
The whole point is that most here didn't care for that pic the first time around & certainly don't care about it now. Most people here don't **** with neither Zach or Jenna; them taking that 7thHeaven-esque pic wasn't changing a thing.
Kajun wrote:I like how y'all comment on their "growth" like you know them in real life. Also, some of y'all have been whack ******* on this site for years and shown no growth...so y'all really need to quit judging.
Then why do we talk about any of these people? We don't know any of them in real life lol
Talk about what you see on tv and social media but when you get into their "growth" it's too much.
I am. Literally was just talking about his growth over the seasons. Don't we do the same thing with Cara Maria for example who used to be spineless and now is (mostly) ******? Zach seems like less of a ******* on TV and apparently him and Jenna are happy. That's all I said.
The whole point is that most here didn't care for that pic the first time around & certainly don't care about it now. Most people here don't **** with neither Zach or Jenna; them taking that 7thHeaven-esque pic wasn't changing a thing.
WesAndLeRoy wrote:I thought Derrick and Brad got back on after begging producers? Brad's sloppy *** was worth the comeback.Also, I think RW Skeletons is like a top 7 RW season, but what is the infatuation with Jason on this site? I just don't see it whatsoever.
Jason can stay home. I think he was boring on his season, he's not easy on the eyes, and his season was years ago...much more interesting people to cast from imo. But I'd rather have him over Dario and some others anyday.
Jason isn't ugly lol, I know some of y'all only go up for people that look like Zach and Joss but he's not ugly
The whole point is that most here didn't care for that pic the first time around & certainly don't care about it now. Most people here don't **** with neither Zach or Jenna; them taking that 7thHeaven-esque pic wasn't changing a thing.
Graphik and debut hit it right on the nail. Who cares about them, then imagine that being relationship goals to someone. Being with a misogynistic ******* who treated you like dirt and proud of it... um
I think he still have the same mentality but after the backlash he have got, he has elarn tp bite his tongue.
Really? Cause on his RW seasons he couldn't even hang around gays, and on early Challenges he disrespected women. Ya'll are so quick to disrespect how someone was raised and how it might be hard for them to grow as people, especially with all their faults aired for us all to see.
Now he's openly friends with gays, and seemingly treats Jenna better. If they're happy together and maturing as people, I say great. But ya'll stay bitter and depressing I guess.. Jesus.
Well for the record, my faves are currently getting to the bag & never have/never will need to chase a sorry, no-good, cheating *** man that embarr***ed them multiple times on the show to get it so they can't relate. My main just got back from trekking through the UK as a matter of fact.
"Well they got more likes than your faves!" That line of thinking is basic in itself & JayTea's point is proven.
I never mentioned likes, my only point was that they seem to have matured and are happy together, so leave them be. Ya'll are dragging them for shit they did in the past lol. Like I'm sure you all have been perfect in past relationships. Jenna's quote is very true actually. Sometimes love is ugly and you both have to learn and grow together.
Constant negativity on here is just a little tiring when it's just a ******* wedding pic and a nice quote about how they're happy together.
Who’s criticism of Zach is that he was conservative at one point? Nobody’s
I mean those are the general criticisms of Zach, but yes I'm sorry, you didn't mention that.
I just said hopefully he's treating her better, and it seems he is.
eh we've been much more critical of less. Some of us not caring for it shouldn't defer you from enjoying it. Be more confident in your interests
Like other has said..Zach hasn't changed. He's just learned to shut the **** up.
And Honestly. If they're happy and all that's fine but why do we have to give a shit?
And TBH I doubt Zach was all that conservative in the first place. I mean he was hanging around with Frank in a speedo on Seasons 2. You don't just be all conservative one minute and then do that shit the next. He was probably was faking it to get on the challenge.
True, agree to disagree, didn't mean to argue
Tony was supposed to have grown but I’ve heard production just doesn’t show his antics. Wouldn’t be surprised if they did the same with Zach since he’s affiliated with Jenna
He said he'd never been around gay people in his life and was clearly uncomfortable during his RW season. Once he actually spent some time with Frank and Sam, you can tell his opinions started to change.
I mean, I call that growth. But whatever.
Grouping people together usually isn't a good idea. They dragged him for filth on Exes 2, and Rivals 3 and he wasn't even on the latter. You can't just assume he's still being a ******* cause others are.
Maybe he is treating her better, have no way of knowing. I’ve just found that doing multiple challenges is the worst thing for real friendships and relationships. I don’t think either Zach or Jenna are anywhere near done with challenges so I doubt the drama is over.
I mean all of that could've been geunie but he could've been bullshitting. Wouldn't be the first time people lied or played a character on these shows.
He grew up in a town of less than 8,000 people. I'm going to say that it's genuine lol.
I like how y'all comment on their "growth" like you know them in real life. Also, some of y'all have been whack ******* on this site for years and shown no growth...so y'all really need to quit judging.
Then why do we talk about any of these people? We don't know any of them in real life lol
Talk about what you see on tv and social media but when you get into their "growth" it's too much.
The whole point is that most here didn't care for that pic the first time around & certainly don't care about it now. Most people here don't **** with neither Zach or Jenna; them taking that 7th Heaven-esque pic wasn't changing a thing.
I am. Literally was just talking about his growth over the seasons. Don't we do the same thing with Cara Maria for example who used to be spineless and now is (mostly) ******? Zach seems like less of a ******* on TV and apparently him and Jenna are happy. That's all I said.
"7th Heaven" *****
Whaaat? Jason is cute af.
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Graphik and debut hit it right on the nail. Who cares about them, then imagine that being relationship goals to someone. Being with a misogynistic ******* who treated you like dirt and proud of it... um
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Are tori and Jordan dating now?i thought he was gay
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