The Challenge: Vendettas- Veronica Portillo

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Okay...so it sounds like Veronica didn't really say anything about Landon other than she knows some things about him.  Who cares?  There's been rumors about Landon since his RW season.   I don't believe Landon's gay because I don't think he would have been willing to talk about his "dream about Ryan" if he had been.  I could be wrong on that but it doesn't seem like something that someone was trying to keep their sexual idenity a secret would share with others.

I really think this is all because she's 40 and a lot of people here have an opinion on how someone "her age" should act.  I don't think Veronica's perfect.  I'm fine with people saying she's fake.  She absolutely can be fake.  If we're going to hate all the fake people on these shows then I don't think we're going to have many people left to root for.  They're almost all fake.  Just like most people in real life.

 

 

That's all true, except she said after 'Well i got outed'. As if she has a right to out people because Aneesa did it to her. So clearly she was talking about his sexuality.

Okay...so it sounds like Veronica didn't really say anything about Landon other than she knows some things about him.  Who cares?  There's been rumors about Landon since his RW season.   I don't believe Landon's gay because I don't think he would have been willing to talk about his "dream about Ryan" if he had been.  I could be wrong on that but it doesn't seem like something that someone was trying to keep their sexual idenity a secret would share with others.I really think this is all because she's 40 and a lot of people here have an opinion on how someone "her age" should act.  I don't think Veronica's perfect.  I'm fine with people saying she's fake.  She absolutely can be fake.  If we're going to hate all the fake people on these shows then I don't think we're going to have many people left to root for.  They're almost all fake.  Just like most people in real life.
 

 

She said way more than that with her reactions. I watched it twice. She intially said with a smirk that she knew some things about him as she sipped her wine. Then someone in chat said something about him being gay and Veronica reads it and starts giving silent reactions. Indications that he is. Then she says, "Well IIIIII got outted." As though it's OK for her to drop the dime on him because it was done to her. It was disgusting. Period. If she wants to be petty to people currently on the show she will be, and she is - but don't go dragging a guy who is living a normal life WITH HIS WIFE into that bullshit. Can you imagine him/his wife hearing about this after the fact? It's just a really shitty thing to do to someone. Before she even said all that or gave silent confirmation she made it pretty clear she was not a fan of his so it felt like there was some malice to it.

I still don't see the problem and Landon's my all-time favorite person on this show...well Landon & Mallory

I’ve been stanning Veronica ever since she stepped on that cruise ship but after 19 years I am done. I tried to get past what she did to Aneesa but she has no remorse. She has no remorse for how she treated a mentally ill girl who was sexually abused and still trashes her. I love shade, I love petty but Veronica takes it to a low level with zero redeeming qualities. I would assume that everything she has been through with losing a child and her brother that it would give her more empathy and compassion but is just really mean. I hope she has a change of heart one day and figures out how to treat people with dignity and respect but I refuse to be like Cara fans or other stans who defend their favs behavior and stick by her awful behavior.

I’ve been stanning Veronica ever since she stepped on that cruise ship but after 19 years I am done. I tried to get past what she did to Aneesa but she has no remorse. She has no remorse for how she treated a mentally ill girl who was sexually abused and still trashes her. I love shade, I love petty but Veronica takes it to a low level with zero redeeming qualities. I would assume that everything she has been through with losing a child and her brother that it would give her more empathy and compassion but is just really mean. I hope she has a change of heart one day and figures out how to treat people with dignity and respect but I refuse to be like Cara fans or other stans who defend their favs behavior and stick by her awful behavior.

LOL--Veronica is supposed to speak highly of Tonya?   LMAO.   By all accounts Veronica treated Tonya great the entire time on The Ruins...everyone confirms that...and then we saw how Tonya reacted.   Mentally ill (just an fucking alcoholic in reality) or not Veronica owes Tonya nothing.   Tonya deserves most of the criticism she gets...especially from her early years.   

kvm1977 wrote:
Okay...so it sounds like Veronica didn't really say anything about Landon other than she knows some things about him.  Who cares?  There's been rumors about Landon since his RW season.   I don't believe Landon's gay because I don't think he would have been willing to talk about his "dream about Ryan" if he had been.  I could be wrong on that but it doesn't seem like something that someone was trying to keep their sexual idenity a secret would share with others.I really think this is all because she's 40 and a lot of people here have an opinion on how someone "her age" should act.  I don't think Veronica's perfect.  I'm fine with people saying she's fake.  She absolutely can be fake.  If we're going to hate all the fake people on these shows then I don't think we're going to have many people left to root for.  They're almost all fake.  Just like most people in real life.
 

She said way more than that with her reactions. I watched it twice. She intially said with a smirk that she knew some things about him as she sipped her wine. Then someone in chat said something about him being gay and Veronica reads it and starts giving silent reactions. Indications that he is. Then she says, "Well IIIIII got outted." As though it's OK for her to drop the dime on him because it was done to her. It was disgusting. Period. If she wants to be petty to people currently on the show she will be, and she is - but don't go dragging a guy who is living a normal life WITH HIS WIFE into that bullshit. Can you imagine him/his wife hearing about this after the fact? It's just a really shitty thing to do to someone. Before she even said all that or gave silent confirmation she made it pretty clear she was not a fan of his so it felt like there was some malice to it.

Right after she said "I was outed" she said just kidding.   I don't think she's the nicest person, but I don't believe she was being malicious or evil at all.  

KVM, you are speaking nothing but the truth 

She was mentally ill she showed up to a challenge freaking out because the cat she “smuggled” on the plane into the country was missing. She was eating flies on the Ruins that is more than just being drunk. I didn’t say Veronica owed her anything but Tonya has been through a lot with a rough life a little compassion wouldn’t hurt instead of contuining to bash her years later after she hasn’t been a part of your life.

People seeing V for the POS she is <3.

She was mentally ill she showed up to a challenge freaking out because the cat she “smuggled” on the plane into the country was missing. She was eating flies on the Ruins that is more than just being drunk. I didn’t say Veronica owed her anything but Tonya has been through a lot with a rough life a little compassion wouldn’t hurt instead of contuining to bash her years later after she hasn’t been a part of your life.

Veronica can say whatever she wants about Tonya--good or bad.  Tonya going through a lot doesn't alter that and it doesn't make Veronica a horrible person for sharing her honest thoughts about Tonya. 

The more people post the more I believe Veronica didn't do anything wrong when talking about Landon...I need to see it to be sure what I think, per usual, some are creating something out of nothing (or very little).

Veronica handled things poorly with Aneesa...people make mistakes and sometimes they don't realize it at the time...or for years after

 

Kajun wrote:
She was mentally ill she showed up to a challenge freaking out because the cat she “smuggled” on the plane into the country was missing. She was eating flies on the Ruins that is more than just being drunk. I didn’t say Veronica owed her anything but Tonya has been through a lot with a rough life a little compassion wouldn’t hurt instead of contuining to bash her years later after she hasn’t been a part of your life.

Veronica can say whatever she wants about Tonya--good or bad.  Tonya going through a lot doesn't alter that and it doesn't make Veronica a horrible person for sharing her honest thoughts about Tonya. The more people post the more I believe Veronica didn't do anything wrong when talking about Landon...I need to see it to be sure what I think, per usual, some are creating something out of nothing (or very little).Veronica handled things poorly with Aneesa...people make mistakes and sometimes they don't realize it at the time...or for years after

Veronica still thinks that she didn't do anything for Tonya to reacted that way she reacted on the Ruins. When in reality it was Tonya exploding after keeping it in and building up for years before anyone denies it, Tonya literally got pick on for years by this girls especially Veronica.

With that being said Veronica is to full of herself to realized a mistake and that she is not always in the right imo

You are a delusional fan who can’t even own up to their falls. I don’t think the Landon thing was a big deal he received segments on the show where they joked about his sexuality and he laughed about it. But the Aneesa thing is hard to forgive. It wasn’t a mistake it was character assassination against Aneesa. She is lucky Aneesa didn’t sue.

People seeing V for the POS she is <3.

Debut Album wrote:
People seeing V for the POS she is <3.

kvm1977 wrote:
Kajun wrote:She was mentally ill she showed up to a challenge freaking out because the cat she “smuggled” on the plane into the country was missing. She was eating flies on the Ruins that is more than just being drunk. I didn’t say Veronica owed her anything but Tonya has been through a lot with a rough life a little compassion wouldn’t hurt instead of contuining to bash her years later after she hasn’t been a part of your life.
Veronica can say whatever she wants about Tonya--good or bad.  Tonya going through a lot doesn't alter that and it doesn't make Veronica a horrible person for sharing her honest thoughts about Tonya. The more people post the more I believe Veronica didn't do anything wrong when talking about Landon...I need to see it to be sure what I think, per usual, some are creating something out of nothing (or very little).Veronica handled things poorly with Aneesa...people make mistakes and sometimes they don't realize it at the time...or for years after

Veronica still thinks that she didn't do anything for Tonya to reacted that way she reacted on the Ruins. When in reality it was Tonya exploding after keeping it in and building up for years before anyone denies it, Tonya literally got pick on for years by this girls especially Veronica.With that being said Veronica is to full of herself to realized a mistake and that she is not always in the right imo

I'm not saying your opinion is invalid.  I just disagree with it.   Veronica seems to understand why Tonya was mad about things from The Inferno 2 IMO.  She was just surprised because she had been good to Tonya while there.  Now, yes, obviously being nice to her for a couple weeks doesn't make up for the way they treated her in the past but remember that Tonya did try to out her and Rachel...she talked about them sleeping in the same bed and all types of things.  So, they weren't nice to each other.   Both were wrong.  Lots of people have trouble admitting they're wrong.   Most people actually  Smile

Clearly I love V but she was dead wrong with the Landon thing, we all knew what she was trying to infer. We should all put the Aneesa thing to rest because it is honestly a wash, they both did something wrong so those just supporting Aneesa are idiots because if Aneesa were a man and did that shit she would have been sent home SO fucking fast. TONYA on the other hand V is totally in the right. If you're cast on these shows you're fair game. And V was so nice to her the whole time on the Ruins until Tonya gets wasted again, someone riles her up by bringing up her and V's past (prob JEK) and she goes to scream at her while she's eating on the couch and instead of engaging V laughs in her face until she gets hit. V did nothing wrong in that situtation

And I still stand by how she treated Tonya on Inferno II. They were legitimate friends before Inferno, V, Tonya, Rachel & Coral got the queen bedroom in the house during Battle of the Sexes II and were working together. Then while they were casting Inferno II Tonya called all the rookie girls she met on BOTS2 to form a pregame alliance to get rid of Coral & Veronica so different people could get the spotlight. Coral even dropped out of the cast because she was so disgusted by this. Then Tonya gets to the Inferno and not only were none of the girls cast she wanted to work with, but she was on the same team as V and had no voting power to get rid of her so she tried to be friendly again with the vet girls who rightfully would not give her the time of day.

And I still stand by how she treated Tonya on Inferno II. They were legitimate friends before Inferno, V, Tonya, Rachel & Coral got the queen bedroom in the house during Battle of the Sexes II and were working together. Then while they were casting Inferno II Tonya called all the rookie girls she met on BOTS2 to form a pregame alliance to get rid of Coral & Veronica so different people could get the spotlight. Coral even dropped out of the cast because she was so disgusted by this. Then Tonya gets to the Inferno and not only were none of the girls cast she wanted to work with, but she was on the same team as V and had no voting power to get rid of her so she tried to be friendly again with the vet girls who rightfully would not give her the time of day.

agreed. And I liked Tonya.  She was asking for it though with her plan. 

And I still stand by how she treated Tonya on Inferno II. They were legitimate friends before Inferno, V, Tonya, Rachel & Coral got the queen bedroom in the house during Battle of the Sexes II and were working together. Then while they were casting Inferno II Tonya called all the rookie girls she met on BOTS2 to form a pregame alliance to get rid of Coral & Veronica so different people could get the spotlight. Coral even dropped out of the cast because she was so disgusted by this. Then Tonya gets to the Inferno and not only were none of the girls cast she wanted to work with, but she was on the same team as V and had no voting power to get rid of her so she tried to be friendly again with the vet girls who rightfully would not give her the time of day.

People tend to forget this.  Tonya wasn't in a bad spot with the queens of the show at the time but then she tried to recruit people to work against Coral & Veronica thinking they wouldn't find out.   Dumb gameplay.

I really do understand why people may not like Veronica but I don't undestand people thinking she isn't good for the show or can't help the show.  She'll have her moments.  She won't embarass herself on many missions.  She'll surprise on some missions.  And she'll play the game.   Like Shane she adds to the show even if she'll never win again.   Ashley Mitchell mentioned wanting a season of RW vs RR vs AYTO vs BB vs UK with teams of six.  I'd actually love to see the dynamic for that and to see the interaction between the different people and generations.

Going to be real honest.  I watched the live and laughed at the Landon thing but never thought of it again until I read this thread. 

So is Landon gay?  Did she really out him?

Going to be real honest.  I watched the live and laughed at the Landon thing but never thought of it again until I read this thread. So is Landon gay?  Did she really out him?

He has a gf/fiance! He can be bi who knows.

You'd think after losing a child in such a tragic way it would have made her a different person. Taking time to look at the happier things in life rather than staying negative at all times. SMH she hasn't grown up she's still a mean girl at heart.

bbog1989 wrote:
Going to be real honest.  I watched the live and laughed at the Landon thing but never thought of it again until I read this thread. So is Landon gay?  Did she really out him?

He has a gf/fiance! He can be bi who knows.

So who cares then?

I was more curious about the Ammo thing....

PinkRose wrote:
bbog1989 wrote:Going to be real honest.  I watched the live and laughed at the Landon thing but never thought of it again until I read this thread. So is Landon gay?  Did she really out him?
He has a gf/fiance! He can be bi who knows.

So who cares then?I was more curious about the Ammo thing....

please dont

You'd think after losing a child in such a tragic way it would have made her a different person. Taking time to look at the happier things in life rather than staying negative at all times. SMH she hasn't grown up she's still a mean girl at heart.

Losing a child has different impacts on different people.   Why would you think it would make her look at the "happier things?"   Maybe she sees the world as more negatve now.  She has stated that she felt like herself again when she came back for XXX.  

This misconception that people "grow up" is laughable.  People never really change.  Priorities change.  I really wonder what you guys think 40 year olds do when they get together.   Do you think we knit, eat jello and talk about how great naps are?   40 isn't old...and when you're 40 and hanging out with people in their 20s you're even more likely to be yourself.  See Brad...Brad's acting like he's 21.  That's not an insult--that's life.   I'm the same person I am at 40 that I've always been.  I just put my wife & kids first now as opposed to myself.  Priorities.  

For example, if Coral comes back she's still going to be Coral.  That doesn't mean she's not a great mother when she's around her daughter.

when coral called tonya out on sexes2>>>>>>>>. I always thought the mean girls were Veronica ,Rachel ,Coral before inferno 2 . but Tina lowkey never lke coral

PinkRose wrote:
bbog1989 wrote:Going to be real honest.  I watched the live and laughed at the Landon thing but never thought of it again until I read this thread. So is Landon gay?  Did she really out him?
He has a gf/fiance! He can be bi who knows.

So who cares then?I was more curious about the Ammo thing....

Who cares? It may not matter to you but it’s possible he ISNT gay and now he has to explain to his family why a girl he was on MTV with 10 years ago is suggesting to the entire world on social media that he’s gay. You don’t think that’s going to make his Wife paranoid and cause unnecessary stress for something that could be a lie? Let alone the fact that gay/bi people should be able to come out on their own terms and not through the mouth of a drunk 40 year old living out her Mean Girls fantasy.

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