not sure if this anything, but on Nat's IG live watching the episode Nicole mentioned Natalie was in the troika once. Not sure if that means anything , but possibly Natalie only made it to the Troika once (next week.) Or possibly Nicole was just spoiling that Natalie made it into the Troika at all. It does seem like the setup of the Troika is going to favor mostly men going in.
Domestic Violence may be a serious issue, but you cant just take anyones word for it. False accusations are also a serious issue and it ruins plenty of lives as well. There's a reason we have trials and investigations to figure out the truth.
STILL SHOOK at how cara managed to beat 7 other people including 4 menwhewww, hate the girl sometimes but definetely impressive on her challenge resume
not sure if this anything, but on Nat's IG live watching the episode Nicole mentioned Natalie was in the troika once. Not sure if that means anything , but possibly Natalie only made it to the Troika once (next week.) Or possibly Nicole was just spoiling that Natalie made it into the Troika at all. It does seem like the setup of the Troika is going to favor mostly men going in.
Nicole also doesn't know how to count so who can ever know
not sure if this anything, but on Nat's IG live watching the episode Nicole mentioned Natalie was in the troika once. Not sure if that means anything , but possibly Natalie only made it to the Troika once (next week.) Or possibly Nicole was just spoiling that Natalie made it into the Troika at all. It does seem like the setup of the Troika is going to favor mostly men going in.
Nicole also doesn't know how to count so who can ever know
lol, that's my hope too. Just thought I'd share.
Edit: And just to clarify that was just my interpretation of a live, both were being coy (Nicole much less so, Natalie was making an effort not to spoil anything) . So don't take it as meaning all that much.
welp alicia should be banned too seems like shes too much of a liability, and eddie innocent or not the damage is already done so im sure he wont be given another chance tooon another note still shocked joss is eliminated so early being that he seems like the most well rounded athlete there
Based in previews it looks like they do a pole wrestle type challenge which gave Derrick an unfair advantage considering he’s done that (and won) before. Obviously he knows what to do to win.
Derrick is still salty that Wes beat him on the Duel for that LOL but the reality is that most of the assassins have experience so they all have that advantage... anyone going against Derrick knows that they’re going up against a monster even tho he’s smaller than most guys.
not sure if this anything, but on Nat's IG live watching the episode Nicole mentioned Natalie was in the troika once. Not sure if that means anything , but possibly Natalie only made it to the Troika once (next week.) Or possibly Nicole was just spoiling that Natalie made it into the Troika at all. It does seem like the setup of the Troika is going to favor mostly men going in.
Is Natalie any good at swimming or eating stuff ?
Natalie had an article about her wanting to do Survivor and how she grew up in the outdoors so I would guess she is decent at swimming and can handle grosser foods than most. Maybe her experience eating slop in B.B. will help.
not sure if this anything, but on Nat's IG live watching the episode Nicole mentioned Natalie was in the troika once. Not sure if that means anything , but possibly Natalie only made it to the Troika once (next week.) Or possibly Nicole was just spoiling that Natalie made it into the Troika at all. It does seem like the setup of the Troika is going to favor mostly men going in.
Is Natalie any good at swimming or eating stuff ?
No real evidence as to either. I genuinely have no idea about swimming, but my unsubstantiated opinion about eating stuff is that I think she'll be good at it.
STILL SHOOK at how cara managed to beat 7 other people including 4 menwhewww, hate the girl sometimes but definetely impressive on her challenge resume
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Queen who wins finals when she goes head to head with men AND spares us from another Zach win >>>>
InternationalFan wrote:The way Cory was talking on his Live, it sounded like he no longer believed Alicia. But he also said that Eddie left on his own. If it wasnt true, why wouldnt Eddie stay and defend his name ?
cause we live in a time in society where due process is gone when it comes to things like this and that you are guilty til proven innocent.
Eddie wasn't on trial, there's no due process. Accusations of domestic abuse should be taken seriously.
and what if she is lying? his reputation been tarnished due to a lie. thanks for proving my point.
But his reputation isn't being tarnished really because MTV isn't airing it. If anything you can argue that MTV is protecting Eddie's image by writing him out instead of showing the accusations.
As for Eddie leaving the show, MTV has to consider the worst case possibilities.
a) Eddie is innocent, and they kicked him off the show for no reason.
b) Eddie is guilty, and they allowed him to stay, forcing Alicia to live with someone who has abused her in the past.
For the swimming one (night-time challenge) i actually think Jemmye will win for the girls. She proved to be a great swimmer on Rivals 2 and she actually seems a little in shape this season.
welp alicia should be banned too seems like shes too much of a liability, and eddie innocent or not the damage is already done so im sure he wont be given another chance tooon another note still shocked joss is eliminated so early being that he seems like the most well rounded athlete there
Based in previews it looks like they do a pole wrestle type challenge which gave Derrick an unfair advantage considering he’s done that (and won) before. Obviously he knows what to do to win.
Derrick and Jordan are still pretty close in terms of ability. Poor Britni had to face Laurel though. Ashley is obviously still a great competitor but she was also injured i think so Britni may have had a chance.
brett wrote:welp alicia should be banned too seems like shes too much of a liability, and eddie innocent or not the damage is already done so im sure he wont be given another chance tooon another note still shocked joss is eliminated so early being that he seems like the most well rounded athlete there
Based in previews it looks like they do a pole wrestle type challenge which gave Derrick an unfair advantage considering he’s done that (and won) before. Obviously he knows what to do to win.
He didn't win his pole wrestle, Wes did
Still, he knows what to expect from that type of elimination. Also, he won his elimination in Handcuffs on Cutthroat, which was a similar elimination.
InternationalFan wrote:The way Cory was talking on his Live, it sounded like he no longer believed Alicia. But he also said that Eddie left on his own. If it wasnt true, why wouldnt Eddie stay and defend his name ?
cause we live in a time in society where due process is gone when it comes to things like this and that you are guilty til proven innocent.
Eddie wasn't on trial, there's no due process. Accusations of domestic abuse should be taken seriously.
and what if she is lying? his reputation been tarnished due to a lie. thanks for proving my point.
But his reputation isn't being tarnished really because MTV isn't airing it. If anything you can argue that MTV is protecting Eddie's image by writing him out instead of showing the accusations. As for Eddie leaving the show, MTV has to consider the worst case possibilities. a) Eddie is innocent, and they kicked him off the show for no reason.b) Eddie is guilty, and they allowed him to stay, forcing Alicia to live with someone who has abused her in the past. b is a way worse outcome.
Its been making its way around the internet..his reputation has been ruined and we do not know if what Alicia said is even true or not. You are not looking at the entire context in option A. You are just thinking of the show..this is a man's reputation that's been put into question. You know what happens to people who are accused of such things? Guilty or innocent, their lives are forever ruined and changed.
InternationalFan wrote:The way Cory was talking on his Live, it sounded like he no longer believed Alicia. But he also said that Eddie left on his own. If it wasnt true, why wouldnt Eddie stay and defend his name ?
cause we live in a time in society where due process is gone when it comes to things like this and that you are guilty til proven innocent.
Eddie wasn't on trial, there's no due process. Accusations of domestic abuse should be taken seriously.
and what if she is lying? his reputation been tarnished due to a lie. thanks for proving my point.
But his reputation isn't being tarnished really because MTV isn't airing it. If anything you can argue that MTV is protecting Eddie's image by writing him out instead of showing the accusations. As for Eddie leaving the show, MTV has to consider the worst case possibilities. a) Eddie is innocent, and they kicked him off the show for no reason.b) Eddie is guilty, and they allowed him to stay, forcing Alicia to live with someone who has abused her in the past. b is a way worse outcome.
Its been making its way around the internet..his reputation has been ruined and we do not know if what Alicia said is even true or not. You are not looking at the entire context in option A. You are just thinking of the show..this is a man's reputation that's been put into question. You know what happens to people who are accused of such things? Guilty or innocent, their lives are forever ruined and changed.
The priority has to be Alicia's safety. They've mitigated the damage to Eddie's reputation as much as they can by not airing the accusations.
InternationalFan wrote:The way Cory was talking on his Live, it sounded like he no longer believed Alicia. But he also said that Eddie left on his own. If it wasnt true, why wouldnt Eddie stay and defend his name ?
cause we live in a time in society where due process is gone when it comes to things like this and that you are guilty til proven innocent.
Eddie wasn't on trial, there's no due process. Accusations of domestic abuse should be taken seriously.
and what if she is lying? his reputation been tarnished due to a lie. thanks for proving my point.
But his reputation isn't being tarnished really because MTV isn't airing it. If anything you can argue that MTV is protecting Eddie's image by writing him out instead of showing the accusations. As for Eddie leaving the show, MTV has to consider the worst case possibilities. a) Eddie is innocent, and they kicked him off the show for no reason.b) Eddie is guilty, and they allowed him to stay, forcing Alicia to live with someone who has abused her in the past. b is a way worse outcome.
Its been making its way around the internet..his reputation has been ruined and we do not know if what Alicia said is even true or not. You are not looking at the entire context in option A. You are just thinking of the show..this is a man's reputation that's been put into question. You know what happens to people who are accused of such things? Guilty or innocent, their lives are forever ruined and changed.
People more famous with way worse accusations end up fine.
If Eddie is innocent, his reputation isn't ruined because no one gives a **** about him. ****, by next week, he'll already be forgotten and no one will even care. His reputation is ruined to who? No one even remembered who he was. You'll probably get some comments on here or Facebook or Reddit or Twitter about him being a disgustin piece of shit, but beyond, people are going to forget about this whole thing.
Especially since this season is likely airing for like 20 episodes. Peripheral shit like Eddie's actions are gonna be forgotten by the end of this season, if by the end of this week.
InternationalFan wrote:The way Cory was talking on his Live, it sounded like he no longer believed Alicia. But he also said that Eddie left on his own. If it wasnt true, why wouldnt Eddie stay and defend his name ?
cause we live in a time in society where due process is gone when it comes to things like this and that you are guilty til proven innocent.
Eddie wasn't on trial, there's no due process. Accusations of domestic abuse should be taken seriously.
and what if she is lying? his reputation been tarnished due to a lie. thanks for proving my point.
But his reputation isn't being tarnished really because MTV isn't airing it. If anything you can argue that MTV is protecting Eddie's image by writing him out instead of showing the accusations. As for Eddie leaving the show, MTV has to consider the worst case possibilities. a) Eddie is innocent, and they kicked him off the show for no reason.b) Eddie is guilty, and they allowed him to stay, forcing Alicia to live with someone who has abused her in the past. b is a way worse outcome.
Its been making its way around the internet..his reputation has been ruined and we do not know if what Alicia said is even true or not. You are not looking at the entire context in option A. You are just thinking of the show..this is a man's reputation that's been put into question. You know what happens to people who are accused of such things? Guilty or innocent, their lives are forever ruined and changed.
The priority has to be Alicia's safety. They've mitigated the damage to Eddie's reputation as much as they can by not airing the accusations.
i dont disagree with alicia's safety...thats on bmp casting ******* up tbh.
But if accusations are false...what happens to alicia?
InternationalFan wrote:The way Cory was talking on his Live, it sounded like he no longer believed Alicia. But he also said that Eddie left on his own. If it wasnt true, why wouldnt Eddie stay and defend his name ?
cause we live in a time in society where due process is gone when it comes to things like this and that you are guilty til proven innocent.
Eddie wasn't on trial, there's no due process. Accusations of domestic abuse should be taken seriously.
and what if she is lying? his reputation been tarnished due to a lie. thanks for proving my point.
But his reputation isn't being tarnished really because MTV isn't airing it. If anything you can argue that MTV is protecting Eddie's image by writing him out instead of showing the accusations. As for Eddie leaving the show, MTV has to consider the worst case possibilities. a) Eddie is innocent, and they kicked him off the show for no reason.b) Eddie is guilty, and they allowed him to stay, forcing Alicia to live with someone who has abused her in the past. b is a way worse outcome.
Its been making its way around the internet..his reputation has been ruined and we do not know if what Alicia said is even true or not. You are not looking at the entire context in option A. You are just thinking of the show..this is a man's reputation that's been put into question. You know what happens to people who are accused of such things? Guilty or innocent, their lives are forever ruined and changed.
The priority has to be Alicia's safety. They've mitigated the damage to Eddie's reputation as much as they can by not airing the accusations.
i dont disagree with alicia's safety...thats on bmp casting ******* up tbh. But if accusations are false...what happens to alicia? nothing.
Not exactly. Alicia's reputation gets ruined for being a liar, if she is lying.
Already, you've got people like you doubting her word. And you got others saying nastier comments about her and taking Eddie's side. So I don't see why you'd worry Eddie's reputation is going to get ruined (when it likely won't 'cause like I said, no one even cares who he is) versus thinking that nothing will happen to Alicia when already people are questioning her validity.
InternationalFan wrote:The way Cory was talking on his Live, it sounded like he no longer believed Alicia. But he also said that Eddie left on his own. If it wasnt true, why wouldnt Eddie stay and defend his name ?
cause we live in a time in society where due process is gone when it comes to things like this and that you are guilty til proven innocent.
Eddie wasn't on trial, there's no due process. Accusations of domestic abuse should be taken seriously.
and what if she is lying? his reputation been tarnished due to a lie. thanks for proving my point.
But his reputation isn't being tarnished really because MTV isn't airing it. If anything you can argue that MTV is protecting Eddie's image by writing him out instead of showing the accusations. As for Eddie leaving the show, MTV has to consider the worst case possibilities. a) Eddie is innocent, and they kicked him off the show for no reason.b) Eddie is guilty, and they allowed him to stay, forcing Alicia to live with someone who has abused her in the past. b is a way worse outcome.
Its been making its way around the internet..his reputation has been ruined and we do not know if what Alicia said is even true or not. You are not looking at the entire context in option A. You are just thinking of the show..this is a man's reputation that's been put into question. You know what happens to people who are accused of such things? Guilty or innocent, their lives are forever ruined and changed.
The priority has to be Alicia's safety. They've mitigated the damage to Eddie's reputation as much as they can by not airing the accusations.
i dont disagree with alicia's safety...thats on bmp casting ******* up tbh. But if accusations are false...what happens to alicia? nothing.
There's definitely something weird going on with how both ended up on the cast. But while I understand the concern for Eddie's reputation, especially considered the historic racism on this subject, its a little troubling to see the kneejerk reaction being to doubt Alicia. There's this myth about false allegations of domestic abuse being common, which is just not true. Its very rare. Its more common for women to not come forward for fear that they're going to get THEIR reputation dragged through the mud or out of other fears.
InternationalFan wrote:The way Cory was talking on his Live, it sounded like he no longer believed Alicia. But he also said that Eddie left on his own. If it wasnt true, why wouldnt Eddie stay and defend his name ?
cause we live in a time in society where due process is gone when it comes to things like this and that you are guilty til proven innocent.
Eddie wasn't on trial, there's no due process. Accusations of domestic abuse should be taken seriously.
and what if she is lying? his reputation been tarnished due to a lie. thanks for proving my point.
But his reputation isn't being tarnished really because MTV isn't airing it. If anything you can argue that MTV is protecting Eddie's image by writing him out instead of showing the accusations. As for Eddie leaving the show, MTV has to consider the worst case possibilities. a) Eddie is innocent, and they kicked him off the show for no reason.b) Eddie is guilty, and they allowed him to stay, forcing Alicia to live with someone who has abused her in the past. b is a way worse outcome.
Its been making its way around the internet..his reputation has been ruined and we do not know if what Alicia said is even true or not. You are not looking at the entire context in option A. You are just thinking of the show..this is a man's reputation that's been put into question. You know what happens to people who are accused of such things? Guilty or innocent, their lives are forever ruined and changed.
The priority has to be Alicia's safety. They've mitigated the damage to Eddie's reputation as much as they can by not airing the accusations.
i dont disagree with alicia's safety...thats on bmp casting ******* up tbh. But if accusations are false...what happens to alicia? nothing.
Not exactly. Alicia's reputation gets ruined for being a liar, if she is lying.Already, you've got people like you doubting her word. And you got others saying nastier comments about her and taking Eddie's side. So I don't see why you'd worry Eddie's reputation is going to get ruined (when it likely won't 'cause like I said, no one even cares who he is) versus thinking that nothing will happen to Alicia when already people are questioning her validity.
Yes I had doubts especially relating to the entire restraining order nonsense. A lot of it does not add up for me, perhaps because we do not have the entire full story.
Is Natalie any good at swimming or eating stuff ?
STILL SHOOK at how cara managed to beat 7 other people including 4 men
whewww, hate the girl sometimes but definetely impressive on her challenge resume
Domestic Violence may be a serious issue, but you cant just take anyones word for it. False accusations are also a serious issue and it ruins plenty of lives as well. There's a reason we have trials and investigations to figure out the truth.
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Nicole also doesn't know how to count so who can ever know
and about this whole mess, I don't want to comment until everything is clear, but if Alicia did lie then she's officially DROPPED
lol, that's my hope too. Just thought I'd share.
Edit: And just to clarify that was just my interpretation of a live, both were being coy (Nicole much less so, Natalie was making an effort not to spoil anything) . So don't take it as meaning all that much.
Derrick is still salty that Wes beat him on the Duel for that LOL but the reality is that most of the assassins have experience so they all have that advantage... anyone going against Derrick knows that they’re going up against a monster even tho he’s smaller than most guys.
Natalie had an article about her wanting to do Survivor and how she grew up in the outdoors so I would guess she is decent at swimming and can handle grosser foods than most. Maybe her experience eating slop in B.B. will help.
No real evidence as to either. I genuinely have no idea about swimming, but my unsubstantiated opinion about eating stuff is that I think she'll be good at it.
Queen who wins finals when she goes head to head with men AND spares us from another Zach win >>>>
But his reputation isn't being tarnished really because MTV isn't airing it. If anything you can argue that MTV is protecting Eddie's image by writing him out instead of showing the accusations.
As for Eddie leaving the show, MTV has to consider the worst case possibilities.
a) Eddie is innocent, and they kicked him off the show for no reason.
b) Eddie is guilty, and they allowed him to stay, forcing Alicia to live with someone who has abused her in the past.
b is a way worse outcome.
For the swimming one (night-time challenge) i actually think Jemmye will win for the girls. She proved to be a great swimmer on Rivals 2 and she actually seems a little in shape this season.
He didn't win his pole wrestle, Wes did
Derrick and Jordan are still pretty close in terms of ability. Poor Britni had to face Laurel though. Ashley is obviously still a great competitor but she was also injured i think so Britni may have had a chance.
Still, he knows what to expect from that type of elimination. Also, he won his elimination in Handcuffs on Cutthroat, which was a similar elimination.
Its been making its way around the internet..his reputation has been ruined and we do not know if what Alicia said is even true or not. You are not looking at the entire context in option A. You are just thinking of the show..this is a man's reputation that's been put into question. You know what happens to people who are accused of such things? Guilty or innocent, their lives are forever ruined and changed.
The priority has to be Alicia's safety. They've mitigated the damage to Eddie's reputation as much as they can by not airing the accusations.
People more famous with way worse accusations end up fine.
If Eddie is innocent, his reputation isn't ruined because no one gives a **** about him. ****, by next week, he'll already be forgotten and no one will even care. His reputation is ruined to who? No one even remembered who he was. You'll probably get some comments on here or Facebook or Reddit or Twitter about him being a disgustin piece of shit, but beyond, people are going to forget about this whole thing.
Especially since this season is likely airing for like 20 episodes. Peripheral shit like Eddie's actions are gonna be forgotten by the end of this season, if by the end of this week.
i dont disagree with alicia's safety...thats on bmp casting ******* up tbh.
But if accusations are false...what happens to alicia?
nothing.
Not exactly. Alicia's reputation gets ruined for being a liar, if she is lying.
Already, you've got people like you doubting her word. And you got others saying nastier comments about her and taking Eddie's side. So I don't see why you'd worry Eddie's reputation is going to get ruined (when it likely won't 'cause like I said, no one even cares who he is) versus thinking that nothing will happen to Alicia when already people are questioning her validity.
There's definitely something weird going on with how both ended up on the cast. But while I understand the concern for Eddie's reputation, especially considered the historic racism on this subject, its a little troubling to see the kneejerk reaction being to doubt Alicia. There's this myth about false allegations of domestic abuse being common, which is just not true. Its very rare. Its more common for women to not come forward for fear that they're going to get THEIR reputation dragged through the mud or out of other fears.
Yes I had doubts especially relating to the entire restraining order nonsense. A lot of it does not add up for me, perhaps because we do not have the entire full story.
I’m tired of reading about the Alicia/Eddie situation. Is that mean, lol.
To change subject Melissa bit Sylvia and dug her nails into her face so Sylvia tried to hit her and was cussing her out .
To change subject Melissa bit Sylvia and dug her nails into her face so Sylvia tried to hit her and was cussing her out .
Queen Sylvia ended her
lmaooo Melissa wildin. She BIT her and clawed her? Yeah i’d be mad if I was Sylvia too but Melissa still a queen
Is that why she go DQ'd
thanks for the welcome change of subject. That elimination should be fun to watch. Episode 5 you think? Unless TBCs drag it to episode 6.
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