InternationalFan wrote:If any underdog deserved to be in that final, it was Nelson. He pretty much beat both Shane and Cory in less than a second, at the same time.
Really? And you why he won in less than a second right? He manipulated Cory
that's why he won. Your point?
My point is he ain't no physical beast.
Nobody said he was. So what are you talking about?
Brandon's average--Nelson's better than that. I do agree that Nelson could beat Zach but is beating Zach necessarily impressive?
I'd like to see MJ vs. Zach...as boring as MJ is (he is) I think that would be a great matchup. Two people that, despite being champions, I don't think lived up to the expectations surrounding them. The most comparable person to Nelson is probably David Burns or Derek McCray which is far from an insult. Nelson has room to improve though.
InternationalFan wrote:If any underdog deserved to be in that final, it was Nelson. He pretty much beat both Shane and Cory in less than a second, at the same time.
Really? And you why he won in less than a second right? He manipulated Cory
that's why he won. Your point?
My point is he ain't no physical beast.
Nobody said he was. So what are you talking about?
Zach was underwhelming at best on Seasons...him against CJ in Hall Brawl really was a disappointment for Zach being the next elite person. Frank S became that guy--shame he was paired with John then quit after Free Agents.
This arguments who will win final and who will flop... If you remove Kam and Kyle because we never saw them compete and Brad who is all rounded, every single one of them has at least one weakness and Tony is flop (no arguments needed).
The guy has a 5-1 elimination record, he beat Hunter who most people think is the best of the new gen. I'm not saying he's great just saying you don't like him so you're underrating him by saying Zach would steamroll him. I was using the rumored elimination against Darrell as an example that more than likely none of these dudes are "steamrolling" Nelson in something physical. You even compared him to Brandon like come on he's way better than him. Brandon is lower tier.
This arguments who will win final and who will flop... If you remove Kam and Kyle because we never saw them compete and Brad who is all rounded, every single one of them has at least one weakness and Tony is flop (no arguments needed).
Brandon's average--Nelson's better than that. I do agree that Nelson could beat Zach but is beating Zach necessarily impressive?I'd like to see MJ vs. Zach...as boring as MJ is (he is) I think that would be a great matchup. Two people that, despite being champions, I don't think lived up to the expectations surrounding them. The most comparable person to Nelson is probably David Burns or Derek McCray which is far from an insult. Nelson has room to improve though.
Derek McCray is definitely an insult, even i don't think Nelson is that bad lol
The only decent thing Nelson has done is beat Hunter and even then i think Hunter is overrated, he barely beat Cory for goodness sake. Even little Nate beat Cory easily. Other than beating Hunter he has done nothing that has impressed me, he constantly flops in daily missions and choked in the invasion final (all he had to do was beat CT in a kayaking race).
Brandon's average--Nelson's better than that. I do agree that Nelson could beat Zach but is beating Zach necessarily impressive?I'd like to see MJ vs. Zach...as boring as MJ is (he is) I think that would be a great matchup. Two people that, despite being champions, I don't think lived up to the expectations surrounding them. The most comparable person to Nelson is probably David Burns or Derek McCray which is far from an insult. Nelson has room to improve though.
Derek McCray is definitely an insult, even i don't think Nelson is that bad lol
Derek was very athletic. He wasn't in great shape on The Duel 2 but still did well. Nelson is comparable to Derek on G3 IMO. Remember Derek was considered better than Nehemiah, MJ and Frank R that season by those there.
And i stand by my statement of comparing Nelson to Brandon.
If Nelson does actually beat Darrell in a physical elimination and it wasn't because of chance or some BS reason, then i will give him credit and change my opinion of him. But as of now he has done nothing that has impressed me, and he's out now anyway so he obviously ain't that good.
And i stand by my statement of comparing Nelson to Brandon.If Nelson does actually beat Darrell in a physical elimination and it wasn't because of chance or some BS reason, then i will give him credit and change my opinion of him. But as of now he has done nothing that has impressed me, and he's out now anyway so he obviously ain't that good.
Derrick desetroyed Brandon...as good as Derrick is when it comes to anything involving leverage Nelson would but up a better fight...maybe you're overvaluing Brandon
kvm1977 wrote:Brandon's average--Nelson's better than that. I do agree that Nelson could beat Zach but is beating Zach necessarily impressive?I'd like to see MJ vs. Zach...as boring as MJ is (he is) I think that would be a great matchup. Two people that, despite being champions, I don't think lived up to the expectations surrounding them. The most comparable person to Nelson is probably David Burns or Derek McCray which is far from an insult. Nelson has room to improve though.
Derek McCray is definitely an insult, even i don't think Nelson is that bad lol
Derek was very athletic. He wasn't in great shape on The Duel 2 but still did well. Nelson is comparable to Derek on G3 IMO. Remember Derek was considered better than Nehemiah, MJ and Frank R that season by those there.
People greatly overestimated Derek supposedly based on his Road Rules which i never watched. He didn't do anything on Gauntlet 3 that i can remember. Frank R, showed up everyone on that season, i was soo dissapointed he never came back. He's one of the most underrated challenge competitors imo.
And i stand by my statement of comparing Nelson to Brandon.If Nelson does actually beat Darrell in a physical elimination and it wasn't because of chance or some BS reason, then i will give him credit and change my opinion of him. But as of now he has done nothing that has impressed me, and he's out now anyway so he obviously ain't that good.
Derrick desetroyed Brandon...as good as Derrick is when it comes to anything involving leverage Nelson would but up a better fight...maybe you're overvaluing Brandon
I think Derrick would beat Nelson too in the same elimination. I don't think i'm overestimating Brandon, i just don't rate Nelson.
kvm1977 wrote:Brandon's average--Nelson's better than that. I do agree that Nelson could beat Zach but is beating Zach necessarily impressive?I'd like to see MJ vs. Zach...as boring as MJ is (he is) I think that would be a great matchup. Two people that, despite being champions, I don't think lived up to the expectations surrounding them. The most comparable person to Nelson is probably David Burns or Derek McCray which is far from an insult. Nelson has room to improve though.
Derek McCray is definitely an insult, even i don't think Nelson is that bad lol
Derek was very athletic. He wasn't in great shape on The Duel 2 but still did well. Nelson is comparable to Derek on G3 IMO. Remember Derek was considered better than Nehemiah, MJ and Frank R that season by those there.
People greatly overestimated Derek supposedly based on his Road Rules which i never watched. He didn't do anything on Gauntlet 3 that i can remember. Frank R, showed up everyone on that season, i was soo dissapointed he never came back. He's one of the most underrated challenge competitors imo.
Frank R should have came back and was the best guy that season but Derek was considered to be by those there.
I really hate all he or talks about is Marie. And it gets annoying af at times. We are having a whole other conversation and he or she brings up good for nothing marie
Nobody said he was. So what are you talking about?
Brandon's average--Nelson's better than that. I do agree that Nelson could beat Zach but is beating Zach necessarily impressive?
I'd like to see MJ vs. Zach...as boring as MJ is (he is) I think that would be a great matchup. Two people that, despite being champions, I don't think lived up to the expectations surrounding them. The most comparable person to Nelson is probably David Burns or Derek McCray which is far from an insult. Nelson has room to improve though.
A lot of people have said he is.
Zach was underwhelming at best on Seasons...him against CJ in Hall Brawl really was a disappointment for Zach being the next elite person. Frank S became that guy--shame he was paired with John then quit after Free Agents.
This arguments who will win final and who will flop... If you remove Kam and Kyle because we never saw them compete and Brad who is all rounded, every single one of them has at least one weakness and Tony is flop (no arguments needed).
I agree with KVM about Brandon. He's always been Average/Solid to me.
6-1 if it’s true he beat darrell
No.
Just Kidding.
Derek McCray is definitely an insult, even i don't think Nelson is that bad lol
There will be a season 32. Marie will provide enough entertainment for them to renew it.
Marie signed a contract with CBS wym boo?
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The only decent thing Nelson has done is beat Hunter and even then i think Hunter is overrated, he barely beat Cory for goodness sake. Even little Nate beat Cory easily. Other than beating Hunter he has done nothing that has impressed me, he constantly flops in daily missions and choked in the invasion final (all he had to do was beat CT in a kayaking race).
Guess BMP will be waiting to film the Challenge after Big Brother Celebrity
Derek was very athletic. He wasn't in great shape on The Duel 2 but still did well. Nelson is comparable to Derek on G3 IMO. Remember Derek was considered better than Nehemiah, MJ and Frank R that season by those there.
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And i stand by my statement of comparing Nelson to Brandon.
If Nelson does actually beat Darrell in a physical elimination and it wasn't because of chance or some BS reason, then i will give him credit and change my opinion of him. But as of now he has done nothing that has impressed me, and he's out now anyway so he obviously ain't that good.
Who is Marie? Oh--the poor version of Mandi--that's right
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Derrick desetroyed Brandon...as good as Derrick is when it comes to anything involving leverage Nelson would but up a better fight...maybe you're overvaluing Brandon
Anywayzzzzz. Violet will be making a brief appearance on Marie’s season.
People greatly overestimated Derek supposedly based on his Road Rules which i never watched. He didn't do anything on Gauntlet 3 that i can remember. Frank R, showed up everyone on that season, i was soo dissapointed he never came back. He's one of the most underrated challenge competitors imo.
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Love how dedicated KVM is to being a Marie fan. Marie really does have the best fan base
& I don't know Mandi.....
the one who was punked by Jenn? You must be confused..... Marie punks*******, not the other way around.
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I think Derrick would beat Nelson too in the same elimination. I don't think i'm overestimating Brandon, i just don't rate Nelson.
"poor version of Mandi".
Ummmm.......
I really hate all he or talks about is Marie. And it gets annoying af at times. We are having a whole other conversation and he or she brings up good for nothing marie
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