It chaps my *** when people say "the show needs fresh faces" to justify this mess when we have a whole season of both RW & AYTO virtually unused.Thats exactly why they pull the shit they do; they know people will instantly try to rationalize it so they can keep watching.
Well the theme is clearly invasion of other shows.
The mtv challenge cockroachs who wont die are going to get a wake up call this season. Their yearly paycheck every year may be going away with so many other shows casts getting calls instead of them. Bananas must be LiViD.!
I pray that the newbs all ban together tto take out ***** maria and johnny bananas
It chaps my *** when people say "the show needs fresh faces" to justify this mess when we have a whole season of both RW & AYTO virtually unused.Thats exactly why they pull the shit they do; they know people will instantly try to rationalize it so they can keep watching.
Both have tragic ratings especially bad blood
WHO CARES. Nobody told them to start promo 2 weeks before the premiere date.
It chaps my *** when people say "the show needs fresh faces" to justify this mess when we have a whole season of both RW & AYTO virtually unused.Thats exactly why they pull the shit they do; they know people will instantly try to rationalize it so they can keep watching.
ive been going back and forth on this shit and most of the time I think it's trash. This is the shit you do when your show is close to dying and you don't have any fresh faces. But clearly that is not the case here. This is the jumping the shark moment.
Its the typical MTV bullshit and making sure their regulars John/CT/Cara are the main characters again.
They were doing just fine with the casting on Invasion and Dirty 30 but here they are again with the overcomplicated, too extra format and theme.
Well the theme is clearly invasion of other shows.The mtv challenge cockroachs who wont die are going to get a wake up call this season. Their yearly paycheck every year may be going away with so many other shows casts getting calls instead of them. Bananas must be LiViD.!I pray that the newbs all ban together tto take out ***** maria and johnny bananas
Thats not the theme and bananas is not livid. Lets be real his old *** stillwould make the cast every season.
It chaps my *** when people say "the show needs fresh faces" to justify this mess when we have a whole season of both RW & AYTO virtually unused.Thats exactly why they pull the shit they do; they know people will instantly try to rationalize it so they can keep watching.
ive been going back and forth on this shit and most of the time I think it's trash. This is the shit you do when your show is close to dying and you don't have any fresh faces. But clearly that is not the case here. This is the jumping the shark moment. Its the typical MTV bullshit and making sure their regulars John/CT/Cara are the main characters again. They were doing just fine with the casting on Invasion and Dirty 30 but here they are again with the overcomplicated, too extra format and theme.
Graphik wrote:It chaps my *** when people say "the show needs fresh faces" to justify this mess when we have a whole season of both RW & AYTO virtually unused.Thats exactly why they pull the shit they do; they know people will instantly try to rationalize it so they can keep watching.
Both have tragic ratings especially bad blood
WHO CARES. Nobody told them to start promo 2 weeks before the premiere date.
I don't think Kayleigh is on, she's active all over social media.
A lot of this cast members have been still active today.
Kellyanne following those guys/Corey and Rogan/Corey following her. CT liking a bunch of pics and he doesnt care enough about social media tp have someone running it
Graphik wrote:It chaps my *** when people say "the show needs fresh faces" to justify this mess when we have a whole season of both RW & AYTO virtually unused.Thats exactly why they pull the shit they do; they know people will instantly try to rationalize it so they can keep watching.
Both have tragic ratings especially bad blood
WHO CARES. Nobody told them to start promo 2 weeks before the premiere date.
Even with good promotions bad bloods would have got its tragic ratings, it was one of the qorse castthey have ever put together.
I don't think Kayleigh is on, she's active all over social media.
A lot of this cast members have been still active today.Kellyanne following those guys/Corey and Rogan/Corey following her. CT liking a bunch of pics and he doesnt care enough about social media tp have someone running it
so they are just allowed to use their phones during the filming? i have watched a few seasons but not so close up like you guys have.
It chaps my *** when people say "the show needs fresh faces" to justify this mess when we have a whole season of both RW & AYTO virtually unused.Thats exactly why they pull the shit they do; they know people will instantly try to rationalize it so they can keep watching.
ive been going back and forth on this shit and most of the time I think it's trash. This is the shit you do when your show is close to dying and you don't have any fresh faces. But clearly that is not the case here. This is the jumping the shark moment. Its the typical MTV bullshit and making sure their regulars John/CT/Cara are the main characters again. They were doing just fine with the casting on Invasion and Dirty 30 but here they are again with the overcomplicated, too extra format and theme.
I agree with everything you said but I wouldn't say they did fine with the casting on Dirty 30, it was literally the same cast of Invasion just with Veronica, Leroy, Derrick, Jordan, Jemmye and more AYTO. Not to mention most of the drama, rivlaries, hook-ups, etc. were all recycled from Invasion.
It chaps my *** when people say "the show needs fresh faces" to justify this mess when we have a whole season of both RW & AYTO virtually unused.Thats exactly why they pull the shit they do; they know people will instantly try to rationalize it so they can keep watching.
Both have tragic ratings especially bad blood
So did GBOGH, but they brought Kailah on anyway and it paid off. She's a great character for the show and is making a name for herself in just two seasons. Who's to say the same couldn't happen to Katrina, Tyara, etc.? It doesn't hurt to try.
thechallenger101 wrote:I don't think Kayleigh is on, she's active all over social media.
A lot of this cast members have been still active today.Kellyanne following those guys/Corey and Rogan/Corey following her. CT liking a bunch of pics and he doesnt care enough about social media tp have someone running it
so they are just allowed to use their phones during the filming? i have watched a few seasons but not so close up like you guys have.
Graphik wrote:It chaps my *** when people say "the show needs fresh faces" to justify this mess when we have a whole season of both RW & AYTO virtually unused.Thats exactly why they pull the shit they do; they know people will instantly try to rationalize it so they can keep watching.
Both have tragic ratings especially bad blood
So did GBOGH, but they brought Kailah on anyway and it paid off. She's a great character for the show and is making a name for herself in just two seasons. Who's to say the same couldn't happen to Katrina, Tyara, etc.? It doesn't hurt to try.
I get you but other than Tya/Katrina NONE of those guys deserved a second shot. If this is teams of 4 make sense why they were dropped.
Haha these clips are great. Brits on the challenge will make me so happy. I'm a sucker for a British accent.I think the challenge is doing this because A) RW is Dead We need fresh faces C) The current cast is getting stale and too comfortable allowing Bananas and CT win everything.If this is true, nothing will ever be the same again and RW AYTO Alum will need to step up their game
Not against you, but the argument that they are doing this, bc RW is dead is not working for me, RW rookies hasn't been cast that much in the recent memory and multiple good/entertaining people from the last six/seven season are/were severely overlooked (even the good season like Explosion or skeletons) or doomed liabilities when multiple people that have done the same are still keep getting cast over and over and over and over again. PR mendtioned the ratings being low, but really Corey/Michelle and people from the UK won't bring you any viewers, especially since UK people are not even able to see your clips on youtube/mtv since they are out of your country or they don't even go into those nielson ratings.B)) MTV has choosen multiple themes/format the last few times that pretty much eliminated a bunch of "fresh faces" to the point where old schooler were seen as fresh faces, i mean Exes/Bloodlines/Rivals/Invasion of champions/Dirties players of all times that doesn't really give you many options for "fresh faces" (i mean completely rookies) + they had a bloodlines season not too long ago and to the "current cast getting stale" most recent formats heavily helped the vets taking control of the game or come back easily if you just look at the twists starting Exes 2.They are a lot of newer people from AYTO/RW that should just giving the chance and are eager to make moves or not be afraid of the vets. A lot of people from AYTO is soo camera hungry without you even trying. These producers are thinking hard and not smart. If you make the move by incorporating different shows, just use the more memorable ones and not these (Victor/Kayleigh and Rogan would be okay choice), but it's the same season after season. Our problem is though, production looks at the BotS2 and Invasion (before the champs came) numbers and feel justified with their actions, but really we have seen this season that all it takes is good promotions.Let's be real, the packing order on this season is already clear as daylight before the game has even started it and we are not even doing this season ergo this season will end up becoming the same as last four/five season unless Shane/Veronica/Devin/Nicole R are able to do anything and I am actually only one of the very few who watched all shows involved here.
thechallenger101 wrote:I don't think Kayleigh is on, she's active all over social media.
A lot of this cast members have been still active today.Kellyanne following those guys/Corey and Rogan/Corey following her. CT liking a bunch of pics and he doesnt care enough about social media tp have someone running it
so they are just allowed to use their phones during the filming? i have watched a few seasons but not so close up like you guys have.
Phones are taken away.
then how are they liking eachothers pics and stuff?
Graphik wrote:It chaps my *** when people say "the show needs fresh faces" to justify this mess when we have a whole season of both RW & AYTO virtually unused.Thats exactly why they pull the shit they do; they know people will instantly try to rationalize it so they can keep watching.
Both have tragic ratings especially bad blood
So did GBOGH, but they brought Kailah on anyway and it paid off. She's a great character for the show and is making a name for herself in just two seasons. Who's to say the same couldn't happen to Katrina, Tyara, etc.? It doesn't hurt to try.
I get you but other than Tya/Katrina NONE of those guys deserved a second shot. If this is teams of 4 make sense why they were dropped.Theo had his shot and **** up big time.
Robbie is probably the only Bad Blood male they'd bring on so that's probably why they were dropped. I feel like production doesn't like Theo, Peter or Mike.
Graphik wrote:It chaps my *** when people say "the show needs fresh faces" to justify this mess when we have a whole season of both RW & AYTO virtually unused.Thats exactly why they pull the shit they do; they know people will instantly try to rationalize it so they can keep watching.
Both have tragic ratings especially bad blood
So did GBOGH, but they brought Kailah on anyway and it paid off. She's a great character for the show and is making a name for herself in just two seasons. Who's to say the same couldn't happen to Katrina, Tyara, etc.? It doesn't hurt to try.
I get you but other than Tya/Katrina NONE of those guys deserved a second shot. If this is teams of 4 make sense why they were dropped.Theo had his shot and **** up big time.
Robbie is probably the only Bad Blood male they'd bring on so that's probably why they were dropped. I feel like production doesn't like Theo, Peter or Mike.
They are going to regret casting Kayleigh/Melissa and Rogan if so. They are hard to keep in check.
god no, the two British guys who lurker was talking about
It chaps my *** when people say "the show needs fresh faces" to justify this mess when we have a whole season of both RW & AYTO virtually unused.
Thats exactly why they pull the shit they do; they know people will instantly try to rationalize it so they can keep watching.
KAYleigh is horrible. She was expelled from BBUK for threatening another housemate’s life lol
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Devin is more muscular then them, all you need is needle to pierce those muscles.
Both have tragic ratings especially bad blood
Camila Chapter II
I have 0 connection to those british ppl, with big brother atleast it was kind of easy to get confirmation.
Well the theme is clearly invasion of other shows.
The mtv challenge cockroachs who wont die are going to get a wake up call this season. Their yearly paycheck every year may be going away with so many other shows casts getting calls instead of them. Bananas must be LiViD.!
I pray that the newbs all ban together tto take out ***** maria and johnny bananas
I don't think Kayleigh is on, she's active all over social media.
Bullshit
WHO CARES. Nobody told them to start promo 2 weeks before the premiere date.
ive been going back and forth on this shit and most of the time I think it's trash. This is the shit you do when your show is close to dying and you don't have any fresh faces. But clearly that is not the case here. This is the jumping the shark moment.
Its the typical MTV bullshit and making sure their regulars John/CT/Cara are the main characters again.
They were doing just fine with the casting on Invasion and Dirty 30 but here they are again with the overcomplicated, too extra format and theme.
We must find the British version of PinkRose lol.
Thats not the theme and bananas is not livid. Lets be real his old *** stillwould make the cast every season.
All facts.
A lot of this cast members have been still active today.
Kellyanne following those guys/Corey and Rogan/Corey following her. CT liking a bunch of pics and he doesnt care enough about social media tp have someone running it
Lmao my first thought was "....Camila?"
Even with good promotions bad bloods would have got its tragic ratings, it was one of the qorse castthey have ever put together.
so they are just allowed to use their phones during the filming? i have watched a few seasons but not so close up like you guys have.
The only thing that makes me doubt the K girl is this caption:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BZvg4LLF1ir/
But something big caught my attention about her.
I agree with everything you said but I wouldn't say they did fine with the casting on Dirty 30, it was literally the same cast of Invasion just with Veronica, Leroy, Derrick, Jordan, Jemmye and more AYTO. Not to mention most of the drama, rivlaries, hook-ups, etc. were all recycled from Invasion.
So did GBOGH, but they brought Kailah on anyway and it paid off. She's a great character for the show and is making a name for herself in just two seasons. Who's to say the same couldn't happen to Katrina, Tyara, etc.? It doesn't hurt to try.
Phones are taken away.
I get you but other than Tya/Katrina NONE of those guys deserved a second shot. If this is teams of 4 make sense why they were dropped.
Theo had his shot and **** up big time.
Not against you, but the argument that they are doing this, bc RW is dead is not working for me, RW rookies hasn't been cast that much in the recent memory and multiple good/entertaining people from the last six/seven season are/were severely overlooked (even the good season like Explosion or skeletons) or doomed liabilities when multiple people that have done the same are still keep getting cast over and over and over and over again. PR mendtioned the ratings being low, but really Corey/Michelle and people from the UK won't bring you any viewers, especially since UK people are not even able to see your clips on youtube/mtv since they are out of your country or they don't even go into those nielson ratings.B)) MTV has choosen multiple themes/format the last few times that pretty much eliminated a bunch of "fresh faces" to the point where old schooler were seen as fresh faces, i mean Exes/Bloodlines/Rivals/Invasion of champions/Dirties players of all times that doesn't really give you many options for "fresh faces" (i mean completely rookies) + they had a bloodlines season not too long ago and to the "current cast getting stale" most recent formats heavily helped the vets taking control of the game or come back easily if you just look at the twists starting Exes 2.They are a lot of newer people from AYTO/RW that should just giving the chance and are eager to make moves or not be afraid of the vets. A lot of people from AYTO is soo camera hungry without you even trying. These producers are thinking hard and not smart. If you make the move by incorporating different shows, just use the more memorable ones and not these (Victor/Kayleigh and Rogan would be okay choice), but it's the same season after season. Our problem is though, production looks at the BotS2 and Invasion (before the champs came) numbers and feel justified with their actions, but really we have seen this season that all it takes is good promotions.Let's be real, the packing order on this season is already clear as daylight before the game has even started it and we are not even doing this season ergo this season will end up becoming the same as last four/five season unless Shane/Veronica/Devin/Nicole R are able to do anything and I am actually only one of the very few who watched all shows involved here.
then how are they liking eachothers pics and stuff?
Robbie is probably the only Bad Blood male they'd bring on so that's probably why they were dropped. I feel like production doesn't like Theo, Peter or Mike.
They are going to regret casting Kayleigh/Melissa and Rogan if so. They are hard to keep in check.
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