Jay got a villain edit on 39. He needs redemption like Michele got on 40. Horacio is also extremely popular among casuals. They don't know what they want, lol.
It wasn't an edit...he was awful. He's one of those people that believe everyone has to do what's best for his game. His loyalty speeches were absurd. Nurys should have slapped the hell out of him
Jay got a villain edit on 39. He needs redemption like Michele got on 40. Horacio is also extremely popular among casuals. They don't know what they want, lol.
It wasn't an edit...he was awful. He's one of those people that believe everyone has to do what's best for his game. His loyalty speeches were absurd. Nurys should have slapped the hell out of him
ok KVM. #TeamJay
Honest question--since I just watched it--what did you like about Jay? I don't have any issue with him going after Horacio and Kyland (good game play) but the loyalty nonesense was just that nonsense. Jay losing in an elimination during the final was ALMOST as good as watching Tony going home without a dime on Vendettas.
Honest question--since I just watched it--what did you like about Jay? I don't have any issue with him going after Horacio and Kyland (good game play) but the loyalty nonesense was just that nonsense. Jay losing in an elimination during the final was ALMOST as good as watching Tony going home without a dime on Vendettas.
I liked Jay a lot prior to 39. He lost me a little on 39 because Jay is not a good villain. He was better as a likable underdog. The power on 39 got to his head. Post the show I watched a lot of his TikTok lives and agree with the explanation. Jay, Michele, Asaf, and Nurys had a final 4 coming into the house. NURYS broke that because she got into a relationship with Horacio (which is fine, it has worked out so far). Nurys acted like for the first half of the season she wasn't also a Jay and Michele minion doing everything they said. Like Ravyn was. Respect to Ravyn because she realized she was at the bottom of that alliance and went over to Kyland's group. I actually disagreed with Jay saving Moriah over Nurys in the final vote. But when I thought about it post show, Moriah stayed loyal. Nurys thinking she can curse Jay out, vote against their alliance, and they're still supposed to have her back is crazy. The editing on 39 was grossly favorable to Nurys. No question. Jay and Michele ran the season and it got him to the final. Michele would have been there to if not for stupid daily purges. I fully acknowledge that 39 wasn't a good season for Jay looks wise. All the more reason he should come back. He has a story more than 80% of the men normally brought up in this thread
Olivia should not be on this. She's done nothing to justify a four straight flagship seasons run.
If Nurys is being put on the back burner and Michele's taking a break, it's perfect time for Olivia to step back. Especially with her being wifed up with Theo aka the most boring romance in Challenge history.
olivia (and moriah tbh) literally prove they're around for ****, nothing else.
olivia had one bad/boring season, she's honestly not the problem you think she is
Sorry but when you're telling me I got two vet girl "hottie" face card 8th and 9th spots left and my choices are Averey, Melissa, and Olivia, I'm going with Averey and Melissa.
Y'all might say that Averey/Tony feud ain't enough beef to chew on for a whole season but it will at least be entertaining for three to five episodes.
Olivia would be coming into this with NOTHING. All the people her storylines revolve around (Nurys/Horacio/Michele) are missing, she "catches" storylines almost as inefficiently as Moriah does (remember the Bananas "argument" at the bar on 40 where he basically handed her a storyline by calling her a snake and she only replied with "OMG why are you so mean to me" whimpy energy so Bananas moved on to arguing with Tori?), so we know she's not starting any "new beef", and her relationship with Theo brings absolutely nothing to the show.
Olivia should get a very normal and healthy break from this season.
Honest question--since I just watched it--what did you like about Jay? I don't have any issue with him going after Horacio and Kyland (good game play) but the loyalty nonesense was just that nonsense. Jay losing in an elimination during the final was ALMOST as good as watching Tony going home without a dime on Vendettas.
I liked Jay a lot prior to 39. He lost me a little on 39 because Jay is not a good villain. He was better as a likable underdog. The power on 39 got to his head. Post the show I watched a lot of his TikTok lives and agree with the explanation. Jay, Michele, Asaf, and Nurys had a final 4 coming into the house. NURYS broke that because she got into a relationship with Horacio (which is fine, it has worked out so far). Nurys acted like for the first half of the season she wasn't also a Jay and Michele minion doing everything they said. Like Ravyn was. Respect to Ravyn because she realized she was at the bottom of that alliance and went over to Kyland's group. I actually disagreed with Jay saving Moriah over Nurys in the final vote. But when I thought about it post show, Moriah stayed loyal. Nurys thinking she can curse Jay out, vote against their alliance, and they're still supposed to have her back is crazy. The editing on 39 was grossly favorable to Nurys. No question. Jay and Michele ran the season and it got him to the final. Michele would have been there to if not for stupid daily purges. I fully acknowledge that 39 wasn't a good season for Jay looks wise. All the more reason he should come back. He has a story more than 80% of the men normally brought up in this thread
So he (or you) lose me at "Nurys broke the Final 4" because she didn't. Just like Jay was protecting countless others she should have been allowed to have secondary numbers. Why is it okay for Jay to protect Emanuel or Ed or Moriah or Colleen or Berna or James or Corey but she can't want to save her numbers? It was Jay only seeing the game from his view.
Moriah didn't "stay" loyal--Jay just never went after her numbers. Jay blaming her for tying the Ed/Emanuel vote was one of the dumbest things I've ever seen on this show which is impressive. Asaf and Jay just had to change their vote to Emanuel but he wasn't smart enough or just thought he controlled others. Asaf went home because Asaf/Jay refused to vote in someone that wasn't in the Final 4.
I mean, as long as you can acknowledge it wasn't a good season for Jay that's cool. He's never lasted long enough of other seasons for me to really have an opinion. He was shady on Survivor though. I'm curious to see if he returns if anyone trusts him. I wouldn't.
So he (or you) lose me at "Nurys broke the Final 4" because she didn't. Just like Jay was protecting countless others she should have been allowed to have secondary numbers. Why is it okay for Jay to protect Emanuel or Ed or Moriah or Colleen or Berna or James or Corey but she can't want to save her numbers? It was Jay only seeing the game from his view.
Moriah didn't "stay" loyal--Jay just never went after her numbers. Jay blaming her for tying the Ed/Emanuel vote was one of the dumbest things I've ever seen on this show which is impressive. Asaf and Jay just had to change their vote to Emanuel but he wasn't smart enough or just thought he controlled others. Asaf went home because Asaf/Jay refused to vote in someone that wasn't in the Final 4.
I mean, as long as you can acknowledge it wasn't a good season for Jay that's cool. He's never lasted long enough of other seasons for me to really have an opinion. He was shady on Survivor though. I'm curious to see if he returns if anyone trusts him. I wouldn't.
Rare KVM win. But the fact that I bring Jay up for Season 41 is ONLY if he embraces his obnoxious villain role and stops trying to be the hero.
Weird that anyone thinks I would like Jay. I didn't like many people from S39. Colleen was probably my favorite but I thought she was useless on ROD. I was happy for Nurys. Kyland and Horacio were annoying. Berna was annoying. Emanuel and Zara (?)...I'm not even sure they were on the cast. Actually Ed is likeable just boring.
Why is it okay for Jay to protect Emanuel or Ed or Moriah or Colleen or Berna or James or Corey but she can't want to save her numbers? It was Jay only seeing the game from his view.
Because Emanuel, Ed, Moriah, Corey were in his alliance. Horacio, Kyland, ZaZa weren't. They only protected James because of Moriah, and James was willing to work with them. Berna and Colleen were really in the middle and had their own side deal to always protect each other.
It was Jay only seeing the game from his view.
And that's fine because he's playing the game for him to win, not Nurys, Horacio, and Kyland.
Anyone else find it weird that Michele has so much smoke for a German but when it comes to Amanda or Laurel she tucks her tail ijbol
context: Michele was shading Colleen on her podcast with kellie and Parvati
lmaooo because she knows the likelihood of it getting back to colleen is slim. Shes scared of people who she will see again and who will call her on her bullshit immediately. Colleens low hanging fruit.
lmaooo because she knows the likelihood of it getting back to colleen is slim. Shes scared of people who she will see again and who will call her on her bullshit immediately. Colleens low hanging fruit.
idk if anyone remembers but Michele was getting interviewed by a challenge podcast and they played a prank on Michele saying Laurel would be joining, they used her voice recording and everything. Michele's face DROPPED lmaooo
Why is it okay for Jay to protect Emanuel or Ed or Moriah or Colleen or Berna or James or Corey but she can't want to save her numbers? It was Jay only seeing the game from his view.
Because Emanuel, Ed, Moriah, Corey were in his alliance. Horacio, Kyland, ZaZa weren't. They only protected James because of Moriah, and James was willing to work with them. Berna and Colleen were really in the middle and had their own side deal to always protect each other.
It was Jay only seeing the game from his view.
And that's fine because he's playing the game for him to win, not Nurys, Horacio, and Kyland.
This doesn't make sense. An alliance of 4 can't be 10. You can't be upset over decisions involving anyone else.
Until someone can explain why he didn't vote for Emanuel instead of Ed he can't be defended. He simply wanted to dictate everything. That's not an alliance
This doesn't make sense. An alliance of 4 can't be 10. You can't be upset over decisions involving anyone else.
Until someone can explain why he didn't vote for Emanuel instead of Ed he can't be defended. He simply wanted to dictate everything. That's not an alliance
An alliance of a FINAL 4. They have to get to the final first with a larger alliance. Emanuel was a higher number in Jay/Michele alliance than Ed. Not sure why that's hard to understand. I liked Ed but he played a weak and scared game, he should have switched to Horacio's side.
This doesn't make sense. An alliance of 4 can't be 10. You can't be upset over decisions involving anyone else.
Until someone can explain why he didn't vote for Emanuel instead of Ed he can't be defended. He simply wanted to dictate everything. That's not an alliance
An alliance of a FINAL 4. They have to get to the final first with a larger alliance. Emanuel was a higher number in Jay/Michele alliance than Ed. Not sure why that's hard to understand. I liked Ed but he played a weak and scared game, he should have switched to Horacio's side.
Why doesn't Michele get the same hate as Jay?
Once you say Jay/Michele Alliance it isn't an Alliance of 4. Ed should have jumped. Lots of people should have. Michele doesn't get the same hate because she didn't actually do anything to screw over. Jay was the ringleader and that's not an edit. And, for me, it's when he started rambling nonsense that she wasn't loyal for voting it Emanuel when he voted in Ed. There's no difference.
Bald, neck tattoo. This is going to be OldSchooler's new favorite female.
ok KVM. #TeamJay
Honest question--since I just watched it--what did you like about Jay? I don't have any issue with him going after Horacio and Kyland (good game play) but the loyalty nonesense was just that nonsense. Jay losing in an elimination during the final was ALMOST as good as watching Tony going home without a dime on Vendettas.
Jay was a good villain but watching him get eliminated was amazing
I liked Jay a lot prior to 39. He lost me a little on 39 because Jay is not a good villain. He was better as a likable underdog. The power on 39 got to his head. Post the show I watched a lot of his TikTok lives and agree with the explanation. Jay, Michele, Asaf, and Nurys had a final 4 coming into the house. NURYS broke that because she got into a relationship with Horacio (which is fine, it has worked out so far). Nurys acted like for the first half of the season she wasn't also a Jay and Michele minion doing everything they said. Like Ravyn was. Respect to Ravyn because she realized she was at the bottom of that alliance and went over to Kyland's group. I actually disagreed with Jay saving Moriah over Nurys in the final vote. But when I thought about it post show, Moriah stayed loyal. Nurys thinking she can curse Jay out, vote against their alliance, and they're still supposed to have her back is crazy. The editing on 39 was grossly favorable to Nurys. No question. Jay and Michele ran the season and it got him to the final. Michele would have been there to if not for stupid daily purges. I fully acknowledge that 39 wasn't a good season for Jay looks wise. All the more reason he should come back. He has a story more than 80% of the men normally brought up in this thread
Sorry but when you're telling me I got two vet girl "hottie" face card 8th and 9th spots left and my choices are Averey, Melissa, and Olivia, I'm going with Averey and Melissa.
Y'all might say that Averey/Tony feud ain't enough beef to chew on for a whole season but it will at least be entertaining for three to five episodes.
Olivia would be coming into this with NOTHING. All the people her storylines revolve around (Nurys/Horacio/Michele) are missing, she "catches" storylines almost as inefficiently as Moriah does (remember the Bananas "argument" at the bar on 40 where he basically handed her a storyline by calling her a snake and she only replied with "OMG why are you so mean to me" whimpy energy so Bananas moved on to arguing with Tori?), so we know she's not starting any "new beef", and her relationship with Theo brings absolutely nothing to the show.
Olivia should get a very normal and healthy break from this season.
Who is the bald girl?
I really do not understand the hype Uh-livia and Boreiah get. they have provided nothing
If they were messy and hooking up left and right and arguing, I would say at least they fill the "sloppy girls" card. They don't even do that...
So he (or you) lose me at "Nurys broke the Final 4" because she didn't. Just like Jay was protecting countless others she should have been allowed to have secondary numbers. Why is it okay for Jay to protect Emanuel or Ed or Moriah or Colleen or Berna or James or Corey but she can't want to save her numbers? It was Jay only seeing the game from his view.
Moriah didn't "stay" loyal--Jay just never went after her numbers. Jay blaming her for tying the Ed/Emanuel vote was one of the dumbest things I've ever seen on this show which is impressive. Asaf and Jay just had to change their vote to Emanuel but he wasn't smart enough or just thought he controlled others. Asaf went home because Asaf/Jay refused to vote in someone that wasn't in the Final 4.
I mean, as long as you can acknowledge it wasn't a good season for Jay that's cool. He's never lasted long enough of other seasons for me to really have an opinion. He was shady on Survivor though. I'm curious to see if he returns if anyone trusts him. I wouldn't.
If any rando IG models like Moriah ever get a chance on this and asked me "what's the best way to get a callback for a second season?"
I would say, "do whatever Melissa does".
KVM being anti-Jay? Lmaooo period
Rare KVM win. But the fact that I bring Jay up for Season 41 is ONLY if he embraces his obnoxious villain role and stops trying to be the hero.
Weird that anyone thinks I would like Jay. I didn't like many people from S39. Colleen was probably my favorite but I thought she was useless on ROD. I was happy for Nurys. Kyland and Horacio were annoying. Berna was annoying. Emanuel and Zara (?)...I'm not even sure they were on the cast. Actually Ed is likeable just boring.
That's what I don't like about Devin and Jay is that they try too hard to be like Wes. I don't care for him but you can't outdo the doer
Anyone else find it weird that Michele has so much smoke for a German but when it comes to Amanda or Laurel she tucks her tail ijbol
context: Michele was shading Colleen on her podcast with kellie and Parvati
That's "Furia" from Big Brother Argentina. She was a big name, very loud but also kinda problematic. She's a loose canon I cant' see MTV handling her
So another Camila?
Jay is nothing but a colonizer in need of a toupee, pretending to be Latino.
Because Emanuel, Ed, Moriah, Corey were in his alliance. Horacio, Kyland, ZaZa weren't. They only protected James because of Moriah, and James was willing to work with them. Berna and Colleen were really in the middle and had their own side deal to always protect each other.
And that's fine because he's playing the game for him to win, not Nurys, Horacio, and Kyland.
lmaooo because she knows the likelihood of it getting back to colleen is slim. Shes scared of people who she will see again and who will call her on her bullshit immediately. Colleens low hanging fruit.
Ed can stay home. He'll just be there to enable the dominant alliance. The only reason ppl like him is because he has muscles.
idk if anyone remembers but Michele was getting interviewed by a challenge podcast and they played a prank on Michele saying Laurel would be joining, they used her voice recording and everything. Michele's face DROPPED lmaooo
This doesn't make sense. An alliance of 4 can't be 10. You can't be upset over decisions involving anyone else.
Until someone can explain why he didn't vote for Emanuel instead of Ed he can't be defended. He simply wanted to dictate everything. That's not an alliance
He's intelligent, a decent competitor and not a ****. It's a low bar
An alliance of a FINAL 4. They have to get to the final first with a larger alliance. Emanuel was a higher number in Jay/Michele alliance than Ed. Not sure why that's hard to understand. I liked Ed but he played a weak and scared game, he should have switched to Horacio's side.
Why doesn't Michele get the same hate as Jay?
Ed has the facebook casual fans. If he shows up on this, I won't be surprised.
Ed's gf is pregnant so unless he pulls a Leroy, he won't be on
Once you say Jay/Michele Alliance it isn't an Alliance of 4. Ed should have jumped. Lots of people should have. Michele doesn't get the same hate because she didn't actually do anything to screw over. Jay was the ringleader and that's not an edit. And, for me, it's when he started rambling nonsense that she wasn't loyal for voting it Emanuel when he voted in Ed. There's no difference.
I hate that man
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