Amanda going in sends her to the slaughter especially if it's remotely physical.
Cory at least has a chance. Even with the opponent being Leroy.
Cory has "short term" potentially long term gain from her staying. Amanda isn't in a position to be as risky because she's not built enough to risk a headbanger. It's not a one size fits all situation but even then the entire thing rides on Tori going automatically in and losing and Cory hopefully taking away protection from John and Jordan.
But I don't see Amanda lasting THAT long and the politics were not in their favor once Leroy got dead last.
Nia was the Era 3 loser in the first challenge. Had Cory forced a stalemate, then Tori would have had to go in against Nia. So, that means at that point the VA (and those associated by proxy) lose someone right way. Instead Cory sent in Amanda to a near sure loss, which meant he lost a number and the VA got even stronger. Tori or Nia going home right away changes the dynamics of the game, even if Amanda goes out 2 eliminations later or something. (Or maybe Tori gives in to avoid the stalemate, but we don't know because Cory just let it all happen.)
I'll never get over Jordan floating to a final without touching a elimination at least TRY like I just lmaoooo shame on all the men on this season for letting this happen and I mean all of em. At least with John they tried I'll give 'em that
If Jordan wins (and including WC and AS since MTV counts them in their win counts) it would put him at making the final 70% of the time and winning 50% of his seasons
Winning 5/10 seasons > 7/24 or 5/21
Jordan can officially end the debate. He wins. He is THE goat.
Amanda going in sends her to the slaughter especially if it's remotely physical.
Cory at least has a chance. Even with the opponent being Leroy.
Cory has "short term" potentially long term gain from her staying. Amanda isn't in a position to be as risky because she's not built enough to risk a headbanger. It's not a one size fits all situation but even then the entire thing rides on Tori going automatically in and losing and Cory hopefully taking away protection from John and Jordan.
But I don't see Amanda lasting THAT long and the politics were not in their favor once Leroy got dead last.
Nia was the Era 3 loser in the first challenge. Had Cory forced a stalemate, then Tori would have had to go in against Nia. So, that means at that point the VA (and those associated by proxy) lose someone right way. Instead Cory sent in Amanda to a near sure loss, which meant he lost a number and the VA got even stronger. Tori or Nia going home right away changes the dynamics of the game, even if Amanda goes out 2 eliminations later or something. (Or maybe Tori gives in to avoid the stalemate, but we don't know because Cory just let it all happen.)
I know and I agree.
This was about someone saying would Amanda would do the same as Cory and I was explaining how those situations differ and even then Amanda would likely take the bullet to further herself long term. Which Cory didn't.
Nia was the Era 3 loser in the first challenge. Had Cory forced a stalemate, then Tori would have had to go in against Nia. So, that means at that point the VA (and those associated by proxy) lose someone right way. Instead Cory sent in Amanda to a near sure loss, which meant he lost a number and the VA got even stronger. Tori or Nia going home right away changes the dynamics of the game, even if Amanda goes out 2 eliminations later or something. (Or maybe Tori gives in to avoid the stalemate, but we don't know because Cory just let it all happen.)
It's probably that Cory what scared that any stalemate would mean both winners would have to go into the elim, so he didn't want to chance going in against Leroy. I think it's most likely that Cory just didn't want to risk his game literally that early.
Jordan is prob the best final performer of all time and the fact that he skated to the end is insanity. But Derek is prob just happy to be there and Kyland gives me "I wanna run against the best". Cory was busy fighting for his life and was surprised Tori was saving Jordan every week over him like a dummy.
Nia was the Era 3 loser in the first challenge. Had Cory forced a stalemate, then Tori would have had to go in against Nia. So, that means at that point the VA (and those associated by proxy) lose someone right way. Instead Cory sent in Amanda to a near sure loss, which meant he lost a number and the VA got even stronger. Tori or Nia going home right away changes the dynamics of the game, even if Amanda goes out 2 eliminations later or something. (Or maybe Tori gives in to avoid the stalemate, but we don't know because Cory just let it all happen.)
It's probably that Cory what scared that any stalemate would mean both winners would have to go into the elim, so he didn't want to chance going in against Leroy. I think it's most likely that Cory just didn't want to risk his game literally that early.
Sure and I get that to a degree, but that's the same kind of worry that has prevented him from winning. Maybe he would have lost to Leroy, or maybe he would have won AND then you know Tori or Nia is gone and suddenly Cory is in a much better position. This all gets back to the criticism of Cory playing the same game every time and somehow expecting a different result.
I did forget Kyland might have some advantages in the final. Come through, Kyland!
I don't disagree with the general consensus that Cory needs a better core group to work instead of the same vets who throw him away like a piece of trash I just don't think a flop weak competitor Amanda fits the bill as that perfect ally to wreck havoc with
Amanda doesn't even like Cory so idk why ppl pretend thts good for his game she's always throwing him under the bus and talking shit
Also it was clear by the format the men don't have much control over who went in.
Most of that is on Michele.
Yeah I am really confused about Michele's targets.
It makes sense tbh. If Cory nominated Michele, it makes sense for her to just return the volley instead of making another enemy. This is on production for making a format that encourages the same people going in over and over
Also y'all clown Amanda for being too loyal and then think she wouldn't pull someone's card for someone if she felt they were loyal.
If she doesn't do it for Cory it would simply be because they aren't close, but even then I don't see her folding on a number.
Nia was the Era 3 loser in the first challenge. Had Cory forced a stalemate, then Tori would have had to go in against Nia. So, that means at that point the VA (and those associated by proxy) lose someone right way. Instead Cory sent in Amanda to a near sure loss, which meant he lost a number and the VA got even stronger. Tori or Nia going home right away changes the dynamics of the game, even if Amanda goes out 2 eliminations later or something. (Or maybe Tori gives in to avoid the stalemate, but we don't know because Cory just let it all happen.)
yeah a person who's never been in a final is going to beat a 4 time winner with the best winning percentage this season.... Congrats kyland!
King Ky is winning it's his time
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I'll never get over Jordan floating to a final without touching a elimination at least TRY like I just lmaoooo shame on all the men on this season for letting this happen and I mean all of em. At least with John they tried I'll give 'em that
Well never mind I can't even give the men credit for John being in eliminations because that was Michele doing just big old dummies with muscles
He already is the goat tbh
Counting Kyland out is wild
Correct!
I know and I agree.
This was about someone saying would Amanda would do the same as Cory and I was explaining how those situations differ and even then Amanda would likely take the bullet to further herself long term. Which Cory didn't.
It's probably that Cory what scared that any stalemate would mean both winners would have to go into the elim, so he didn't want to chance going in against Leroy. I think it's most likely that Cory just didn't want to risk his game literally that early.
I wouldn't sleep on Bananas or Kyland with potentially 2 advantages in the final due to multiple elimination wins
Jordan is prob the best final performer of all time and the fact that he skated to the end is insanity. But Derek is prob just happy to be there and Kyland gives me "I wanna run against the best". Cory was busy fighting for his life and was surprised Tori was saving Jordan every week over him like a dummy.
In Kyland We Trust
Sure and I get that to a degree, but that's the same kind of worry that has prevented him from winning. Maybe he would have lost to Leroy, or maybe he would have won AND then you know Tori or Nia is gone and suddenly Cory is in a much better position. This all gets back to the criticism of Cory playing the same game every time and somehow expecting a different result.
I did forget Kyland might have some advantages in the final. Come through, Kyland!
KYLAND/DEREK YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO!
Also it was clear by the format the men don't have much control over who went in.
Most of that is on Michele.
Yeah I am really confused about Michele's targets.
Yes Cory probably didn't play the smartest game but it's still nasty that he went out right before the final
Amanda doesn't even like Cory so idk why ppl pretend thts good for his game she's always throwing him under the bus and talking shit
What I want for the men: Kyland, Derek, Bananas, Jordan
What I'm Expecting: Jordan, Kyland, Bananas, Derek
It makes sense tbh. If Cory nominated Michele, it makes sense for her to just return the volley instead of making another enemy. This is on production for making a format that encourages the same people going in over and over
well yes
I don't know why they don't just make a rule where the same person can't go in back to back. It's so ******* easy to do.
bc that would mean Skye's precious pets (who usually aren't in slums often) would be in danger
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Someone said they should've brought back the relics , which I agree with.
You can think jordan/platano will win but counting Kyland out is ridiculous like let's put our thinking caps on
#JustMyOpinion
Killa finally stuck to an avi for a few days and that person got eliminated... please switch to Tori
now why would I switch to someone who I actually want to be in the final
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