The Challenge : Ride or Dies - Spoilers Discussion

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Mama might've saved the season.....now the politics might be wide open and FRESH dynamics can be made 

Da'vonne sacrificed herself to make sure we didn't see Josh this season

Thats why she will always be mother ❤️ 

This should show past 5 to 6 seasons people that they interchangeable because Josh could have easily got another person but they just said o well and gave Fessy his spot. The iroonic thing is he was part of reason Fessy got dq last season

They should bring back Kenny for All-Stars 4, Evan too if he is up for it. If they can do a 30 second "apology" to get Nia out of her banned status, they can do the same for Kenny.

an apology for Tonya is whats needed. 

He can't apologize for something that never happened.

 

 

 

sending Nelson love and positivity today 

Hes getting that official W

lol he never got an unoffical one either - he's been a finalist and that's it.  

Nope he definitely won invasion

#alternativefacts Blum 3

Da'vonne sacrificed herself to make sure we didn't see Josh this season

Thats why she will always be mother ❤️ 

Day doing us all a giant favor - hopefully we get her back for 39 solo <3

 

They should bring back Kenny for All-Stars 4, Evan too if he is up for it. If they can do a 30 second "apology" to get Nia out of her banned status, they can do the same for Kenny.

an apology for Tonya is whats needed. 

He can't apologize for something that never happened.

Neither you or I knows what happened there so it's all hearsay but in general she never should have even been cast on that season and deserves an appology for that. Also everything was kept underwraps by MTV so no one will ever know.  She was exploited on the Ruins when she clearly needed help and shouldn't have been there.  She has one of the saddest stories to watch from where she started to where she ended up.  At least she was able to turn things around.  Robin prob has the next saddest and hopefully she one day will have the same turnaorund.  

 

Challenge fans: OMG THERES NO DRAMA AT ALL PRODUCTION SUCKS WHY ISNT ANYBODY CAUSING ANY DRAMA WAAH

Also Challenge Fans: YASSSS JOSH GOT CUT AMAZING SEASON WOO!!!!

Thats because Josh's form of fake drama is not entertaining. I want authenticity not the **** that is Josh. Like that clip above showed him banging pots with a tutu skirt on is not entertaining. It was the beginning of the end of Big Brother. 

 

 

They should bring back Kenny for All-Stars 4, Evan too if he is up for it. If they can do a 30 second "apology" to get Nia out of her banned status, they can do the same for Kenny.

an apology for Tonya is whats needed. 

He can't apologize for something that never happened.

Neither you or I knows what happened there so it's all hearsay but in general she never should have even been cast on that season and deserves an appology for that. Also everything was kept underwraps by MTV so no one will ever know.  She was exploited on the Ruins when she clearly needed help and shouldn't have been there.  She has one of the saddest stories to watch from where she started to where she ended up.  At least she was able to turn things around.  Robin prob has the next saddest and hopefully she one day will have the same turnaorund.  

Wait--are you saying MTV/BMP needs to apologize?   If so, they kind of did that with the settlement but I can go with that.  I took that as "Kenny needs to apologize"

Kenny n Evan r dirtbags

 

 

They should bring back Kenny for All-Stars 4, Evan too if he is up for it. If they can do a 30 second "apology" to get Nia out of her banned status, they can do the same for Kenny.

an apology for Tonya is whats needed. 

He can't apologize for something that never happened.

Neither you or I knows what happened there so it's all hearsay but in general she never should have even been cast on that season and deserves an appology for that. Also everything was kept underwraps by MTV so no one will ever know.  She was exploited on the Ruins when she clearly needed help and shouldn't have been there.  She has one of the saddest stories to watch from where she started to where she ended up.  At least she was able to turn things around.  Robin prob has the next saddest and hopefully she one day will have the same turnaorund.  

Assuming she is still in shape, bring Tonya back as well, her and Kenny can do the 30 second kumbaya segment. Everyone wants the drama, imagine how much Tonya could provide.

Robin's story is sadder than Tonya's. Robin had a few kids and a normal life but she instead has decided to live a life of a homeless lady of the night and drug addict on the streets of Tampa.

Assuming she is still in shape, bring Tonya back as well, her and Kenny can do the 30 second kumbaya segment. Everyone wants the drama, imagine how much Tonya could provide.

We can ignore the "she sued them" aspect for a second--the last thing Tonya should ever do is go back on a challenge. Same with Paula.  

time really does make a difference because even toothbrush gate aside i don't think y'all realize how foul and nasty JEK were. bottom of the barrel trash, idk why people want them back

time really does make a difference because even toothbrush gate aside i don't think y'all realize how foul and nasty JEK were. bottom of the barrel trash, idk why people want them back

Because that's how bad the show is now?   But, no, I don't "want" them back.

Praise Jesus! 

Season at least semi-saved.

 

Assuming she is still in shape, bring Tonya back as well, her and Kenny can do the 30 second kumbaya segment. Everyone wants the drama, imagine how much Tonya could provide.

We can ignore the "she sued them" aspect for a second--the last thing Tonya should ever do is go back on a challenge. Same with Paula.  

I always wondered how much she got from that. My guess is $200k.

speaking of Tonya, anyone else hear the Mike Lewis interview with Cara Kahn?  She casually said Tonya was racist lol. 

If they toothbrush scandal is false and that's a big if then I think the hate Kenny and Evan get is unfair. They were young docuhey frat guys, the girls outside the show loved them and their jokes were jokes. The same people here bashing them have said way more disgusting stuff or sat by quietly when inappropriate stuff was said than Kenny and Evan have. They are two white guys that y'all don't like so all the sudden you are offended and disgusted by the jokes now? Just say they annoy you and jump off your high horse.

speaking of Tonya, anyone else hear the Mike Lewis interview with Cara Kahn?  She casually said Tonya was racist lol. 

Yes!! I picked up on that too, I knew Mike wasn't touching that lol. Tonya was from a small town in Washington where she was only around white people ever. I'm hoping her experience and exposure to diversity on the shows she did changed her and I've never heard anyone else say that so hopefully it did.

The Evan and Kenny hate I think is the only thing vevmo and reddit and on top of that twitter agree on. Go look at any post that mentions those 2. You cannot even have a simple game discussion regarding them without dozens of comments that are searching for upvotes virtue signaling. Like why is the same shit being said about them being regurgitated? We know what they allegedly did. Does not take away from the fact they had a whole era of the challenge built around them. 

 

 

Assuming she is still in shape, bring Tonya back as well, her and Kenny can do the 30 second kumbaya segment. Everyone wants the drama, imagine how much Tonya could provide.

We can ignore the "she sued them" aspect for a second--the last thing Tonya should ever do is go back on a challenge. Same with Paula.  

I always wondered how much she got from that. My guess is $200k.

V1 lied a lot but less supposedly 

Josh not being on means this season is better than the last, regardless of how it ends. 

Josh not being on means this season is better than the last, regardless of how it ends. 

If they toothbrush scandal is false and that's a big if then I think the hate Kenny and Evan get is unfair. They were young docuhey frat guys, the girls outside the show loved them and their jokes were jokes. The same people here bashing them have said way more disgusting stuff or sat by quietly when inappropriate stuff was said than Kenny and Evan have. They are two white guys that y'all don't like so all the sudden you are offended and disgusted by the jokes now? Just say they annoy you and jump off your high horse.

'docuhey frat guys' is quite an understatement but yes, they do annoy me but it doesn't matter cause they're never coming back and if toothbrush gate did happen then they'll both be rotting in **** anyways 

I would like for them to bring back the Water Torture elimination.

I would like for them to bring back the Water Torture elimination.

The one where they jump in the freezing water on Gauntlet 3?

Josh not being on means this season is better than the last, regardless of how it ends. 

Plus NO EMY EMANUEL KYLE OR CT? 

Like cmon now.....what happens this is an improvement for me

 

Da'vonne sacrificed herself to make sure we didn't see Josh this season

Thats why she will always be mother ❤️ 

This should show past 5 to 6 seasons people that they interchangeable because Josh could have easily got another person but they just said o well and gave Fessy his spot. The iroonic thing is he was part of reason Fessy got dq last season

He got Ashley and Fessy DQ just for production to do him dirty 

 

I would like for them to bring back the Water Torture elimination.

The one where they jump in the freezing water on Gauntlet 3?

It was the one from Battle of the Seasons 2012 that Big Easy quit.

Wait!!! We won with Josh being an alternate

This tastes so good

 

speaking of Tonya, anyone else hear the Mike Lewis interview with Cara Kahn?  She casually said Tonya was racist lol. 

Yes!! I picked up on that too, I knew Mike wasn't touching that lol. Tonya was from a small town in Washington where she was only around white people ever. I'm hoping her experience and exposure to diversity on the shows she did changed her and I've never heard anyone else say that so hopefully it did.

Cara did not like Tonya at all. I know Tonya went thru a lot on these shows and I'm not excusing it but we have to remember that she started being targeted because she was in fact racist, homophobic, and very hard to get along with. 

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