How the **** was Tommy a good casting choice? He's boring and was not impressive athletically. He teaches young kids and is engaged. In what sense would he possible be a good casting choice? At this point im convinced KVM gives horrible takes for attention and its getting a bit pathetic.
I've explained this countless times. He's a good casting choice in the same way Kaycee is. To not understanding why casting a Survivor champ is a good decision means you're not being reasonable. Not impressive athletically lol. We don't need everyone creating drama
What's pathetic is people that can't see this.
That makes no ******* sense. Him being a champion means nothing when he never stood out as a character or a player.
He ******* won--he absolutely stood out as a player. Survivor Champ = Good casting. You're all mad because you created this insane logic where he was going to be an alternate. I can't help you that the majority of this world lives in some delusion universe where what they want matters. I'm sorry that you're incapable of admitting when you're wrong but I accepted that about you. It's sad but it's reality.
You literally have a username of someone that was complete trash so your opinion has zero value
LMAOOO you are batshit insane. Winning a show does not make you a good casting choice. Tracy won her show I dont see you talking about how amazing she was.
"Im sorry that you're incapabale of admitting when you're wrong"
You literally defend a predator on this site every day. Its given delusion and hypocrisy.
Cry about Melissa being "complete trash". At least she was a good casting choice unlike Tommy
LMAOOO you are batshit insane. Winning a show does not make you a good casting choice. Tracy won her show I dont see you talking about how amazing she was.
"Im sorry that you're incapabale of admitting when you're wrong"
You literally defend a predator on this site every day. Its given delusion and hypocrisy.
Cry about Melissa being "complete trash". At least she was a good casting choice unlike Tommy
Have I ever said Tracy shouldn't have been cast or was bad casting?
Of course I defended Aneesa from the "cancel culture" crowd when LT DIDN'T CARE
Melissa is complete trash--hopefully she's a good mom now and leaves the act behind her.
LMAOOO you are batshit insane. Winning a show does not make you a good casting choice. Tracy won her show I dont see you talking about how amazing she was.
"Im sorry that you're incapabale of admitting when you're wrong"
You literally defend a predator on this site every day. Its given delusion and hypocrisy.
Cry about Melissa being "complete trash". At least she was a good casting choice unlike Tommy
Have I ever said Tracy shouldn't have been cast or was bad casting?
Of course I defended Aneesa from the "cancel culture" crowd when LT DIDN'T CARE
Melissa is complete trash--hopefully she's a good mom now and leaves the act behind her.
It doesnt matter that Laterrian didnt care? How long before she does it to someone who does. Im sure she already has. He just happened to not care, its not like she asked for consent. She's done it to NUMEROUS people and that's predatory behaviour. Why the **** are you defending someone who actively seeks to look at people when they are showering? Its weird as ****.
Melissa is amazing. Queen stays delivering content and entertainment.
LMAOOO you are batshit insane. Winning a show does not make you a good casting choice. Tracy won her show I dont see you talking about how amazing she was.
"Im sorry that you're incapabale of admitting when you're wrong"
You literally defend a predator on this site every day. Its given delusion and hypocrisy.
Cry about Melissa being "complete
Melissa is complete trash--hopefully she's a good mom now and leaves the act behind her.
don't bring up her being a mom that's reslly weird KVM even for you
i just wanna know how you root for amanda since you're a jenna stan (assuming you are)? don't those two hate eachother? or do you just not take the show that deep to heart?
I wonder that all the time, but he's cheering for the right team so I just keep my mouth shut
LMAOOO you are batshit insane. Winning a show does not make you a good casting choice. Tracy won her show I dont see you talking about how amazing she was.
"Im sorry that you're incapabale of admitting when you're wrong"
You literally defend a predator on this site every day. Its given delusion and hypocrisy.
Cry about Melissa being "complete trash". At least she was a good casting choice unlike Tommy
Have I ever said Tracy shouldn't have been cast or was bad casting?
Of course I defended Aneesa from the "cancel culture" crowd when LT DIDN'T CARE
Melissa is complete trash--hopefully she's a good mom now and leaves the act behind her.
It doesnt matter that Laterrian didnt care? How long before she does it to someone who does. Im sure she already has. He just happened to not care, its not like she asked for consent. She's done it to NUMEROUS people and that's predatory behaviour. Why the **** are you defending someone who actively seeks to look at people when they are showering? Its weird as ****.
Melissa is amazing. Queen stays delivering content and entertainment.
It does matter. Like any sane self confident person he's not going to care. She doesn't need consent to be in a shared bathroom. I defend the law and you all continually make up stuff to fit your agenda.
Melissa added fake drama. If you fall for that good for you.
LMAOOO you are batshit insane. Winning a show does not make you a good casting choice. Tracy won her show I dont see you talking about how amazing she was.
"Im sorry that you're incapabale of admitting when you're wrong"
You literally defend a predator on this site every day. Its given delusion and hypocrisy.
Cry about Melissa being "complete
Melissa is complete trash--hopefully she's a good mom now and leaves the act behind her.
don't bring up her being a mom that's reslly weird KVM even for you
LMAOOO you are batshit insane. Winning a show does not make you a good casting choice. Tracy won her show I dont see you talking about how amazing she was.
"Im sorry that you're incapabale of admitting when you're wrong"
You literally defend a predator on this site every day. Its given delusion and hypocrisy.
Cry about Melissa being "complete
Melissa is complete trash--hopefully she's a good mom now and leaves the act behind her.
don't bring up her being a mom that's reslly weird KVM even for you
What? I said hopefully she's left that axt behind and focused on the kid. That's what all parents should do. Never said she didn't. This is part of the problem. You all don't read what is written but turn it into something it isn't. Words have meaning. Read them. Take them at face value.
I've always defend any parent for coming on the show. I've also consistently criticized those like Tony that didn't set a good example for his daughters once they were born. Actually I think Tony and Brad are the only two that deserve criticism.
LMAOOO you are batshit insane. Winning a show does not make you a good casting choice. Tracy won her show I dont see you talking about how amazing she was.
"Im sorry that you're incapabale of admitting when you're wrong"
You literally defend a predator on this site every day. Its given delusion and hypocrisy.
Cry about Melissa being "complete
Melissa is complete trash--hopefully she's a good mom now and leaves the act behind her.
don't bring up her being a mom that's reslly weird KVM even for you
What? I said hopefully she's left that axt behind and focused on the kid. That's what all parents should do. Never said she didn't. This is part of the problem. You all don't read what is written but turn it into something it isn't. Words have meaning. Read them. Take them at face value.
I've always defend any parent for coming on the show. I've also consistently criticized those like Tony that didn't set a good example for his daughters once they were born. Actually I think Tony and Brad are the only two that deserve criticism.
Tone matters and you definitely gave off a wrong tone. Yes words matter but tone does as well
LMAOOO you are batshit insane. Winning a show does not make you a good casting choice. Tracy won her show I dont see you talking about how amazing she was.
"Im sorry that you're incapabale of admitting when you're wrong"
You literally defend a predator on this site every day. Its given delusion and hypocrisy.
Cry about Melissa being "complete
Melissa is complete trash--hopefully she's a good mom now and leaves the act behind her.
don't bring up her being a mom that's reslly weird KVM even for you
What? I said hopefully she's left that axt behind and focused on the kid. That's what all parents should do. Never said she didn't. This is part of the problem. You all don't read what is written but turn it into something it isn't. Words have meaning. Read them. Take them at face value.
I've always defend any parent for coming on the show. I've also consistently criticized those like Tony that didn't set a good example for his daughters once they were born. Actually I think Tony and Brad are the only two that deserve criticism.
Tone matters and you definitely gave off a wrong tone. Yes words matter but tone does as well
There's no tone I'm writing. It's your perception of what you believe exists. You twist to fit an agenda. When I criticize someone I'm direct. See why thoughts on Amanda being a hypocrite after getting knocked up my complete trash after criticizing other women for their relationships. I'm not going to sugarcoat it.
I agree. Casting champions of other shows give the challenge some legitimacy, especially from network shows like big brother and survivor with 10x the viewership of the challenge.
Wait I only found out about Survivor through The Challenge.. I have a hard time believing it has 10x the viewership lol
Is that even possible? lol I think when Tommy won almost 7M watched. So about 8x times the audience of The Challenge
Edit: Looked it up 6.52M live and over 8.5M including DVR so. The Challenge is typically around 900 k I believe
MTV is one of the only American channels I watch (since I don't live in America), so I'm not really in the know on what's hot over there, but the little I heard about Survivor made me think it's less interesting than The Challenge, so hearing that it's more peopular is really surprizing to me..
ugh I miss when we could drag each other and have fun on here lmaooooo y'all******* got way too crazy AND senstive. Some of y'all can suck the joy out of any thread
I think making fun of KVM is the closest we will ever get to the old days
Yupp because I don't cry to PR like a little ***** like half of this board
Imma have to agree with you on that one whoever on here cries to the PR whenever someone doesn't agree with them shouldn't even be on here to begin eith......
They should bring Cochran on next season, since Survivor winners are the best casting choices ever. He actually won immunities too unlike Tommy. Give me him and Adam Klein and the Survivor takeover is in full swing
I agree. Casting champions of other shows give the challenge some legitimacy, especially from network shows like big brother and survivor with 10x the viewership of the challenge.
Wait I only found out about Survivor through The Challenge.. I have a hard time believing it has 10x the viewership lol
Is that even possible? lol I think when Tommy won almost 7M watched. So about 8x times the audience of The Challenge
Edit: Looked it up 6.52M live and over 8.5M including DVR so. The Challenge is typically around 900 k I believe
MTV is one of the few American channels I watch (since I don't live in America), so I'm not really in the know on what's hot over there, but the little I heard about Survivor made me think it's less interesting than The Challenge, so hearing that it's more peopular is really surprizing to me..
Gotcha--that makes more sense. Survivor is just different--I wouldn't say less interesting. Generally speaking, the game play on Survivor is much better and cutthroat because they don't plan on doing ever season for the next decade of their life. I'm not big on drama (especially fake drama) so Survivor is superior to be ALTHOUGH the twists lately have gotten out of hand.
They should bring Cochran on next season, since Survivor winners are the best casting choices ever. He actually won immunities too unlike Tommy. Give me him and Adam Klein and the Survivor takeover is in full swing
Why not? Mike from Vegas made a final and I'd love to watch either of them get destroyed in Hall Brawl. We know they tried to get Todd Herzog so it would make sense for those 2 as well.
Give it up, Aneesa. For the love of God. Wes said it best, recently. And the regulars they keep casting on the show now are horrible. Nany needs to give it up too. Fessy is lame. Josh is insufferable. Enough of Cory too. Kaycee Clark has zero personality! wtf. She's the biggest mystery casting. Tori is boring. Ashley is literally the only entertaining regularly cast member of the show now. Having seen War of the Worlds recently, the show was so exciting. It had a real chance at a great new era. What the hell happened?
Give it up, Aneesa. For the love of God. Wes said it best, recently. And the regulars they keep casting on the show now are horrible. Nany needs to give it up too. Fessy is lame. Josh is insufferable. Enough of Cory too. Kaycee Clark has zero personality! wtf. She's the biggest mystery casting. Tori is boring. Ashley is literally the only entertaining regularly cast member of the show now. Having seen War of the Worlds recently, the show was so exciting. It had a real chance at a great new era. What the hell happened?
Everyone that was a rookie on WOTW flopped, became problematic or walked away. Not sure what you want them to do there. We agree they need to do a better job casting vets and it shouldn't be repetitive but other than Turbo, Theo & Georgia there isn't a rookie from WOTW that is really missed IMO. Maybe Dee--maybe.
They should bring Cochran on next season, since Survivor winners are the best casting choices ever. He actually won immunities too unlike Tommy. Give me him and Adam Klein and the Survivor takeover is in full swing
Why not? Mike from Vegas made a final and I'd love to watch either of them get destroyed in Hall Brawl. We know they tried to get Todd Herzog so it would make sense for those 2 as well.
Ehh. I Dunno about Cochran. I feel like he wouldn't last long at all on this show. Like he could probably get by on social game but given how he looks someone is calling him into elimination...especially if there's skulls and I see him only doing well in something with Puzzles or some off the wall shit.
Give it up, Aneesa. For the love of God. Wes said it best, recently. And the regulars they keep casting on the show now are horrible. Nany needs to give it up too. Fessy is lame. Josh is insufferable. Enough of Cory too. Kaycee Clark has zero personality! wtf. She's the biggest mystery casting. Tori is boring. Ashley is literally the only entertaining regularly cast member of the show now. Having seen War of the Worlds recently, the show was so exciting. It had a real chance at a great new era. What the hell happened?
Everyone that was a rookie on WOTW flopped, became problematic or walked away. Not sure what you want them to do there. We agree they need to do a better job casting vets and it shouldn't be repetitive but other than Turbo, Theo & Georgia there isn't a rookie from WOTW that is really missed IMO. Maybe Dee--maybe.
You're right. *sigh* That was the best new class of rookies in so long and they started dropping like flies due to some weird circumstance. Sad when the vets being cast over and over are boring though. I haven't seen the Challenge come to this and I've been watching since the very first one.
And I disagree with all the people who find Josh entertaining. He's like hearing a child screaming and crying in a theater when you're trying to watch a movie. I can see he just wants camera time. He tries too hard and people like that don't entertain me. That's why I like when Wes shut him down when he thought he could try to make a Josh vs Wes storyline a thing for the show. lmao. Like he's worth it.
They should bring Cochran on next season, since Survivor winners are the best casting choices ever. He actually won immunities too unlike Tommy. Give me him and Adam Klein and the Survivor takeover is in full swing
Why not? Mike from Vegas made a final and I'd love to watch either of them get destroyed in Hall Brawl. We know they tried to get Todd Herzog so it would make sense for those 2 as well.
Ehh. I Dunno about Cochran. I feel like he wouldn't last long at all on this show. Like he could probably get by on social game but given how he looks someone is calling him into elimination...especially if there's skulls and I see him only doing well in something with Puzzles or some off the wall shit.
cochran's reality that show arc ended perfectly when he won. I wouldn't see the point of him trying a competition show again. I was glad he wasn't on winners at war, it might have tainted his image
Everyone that was a rookie on WOTW flopped, became problematic or walked away. Not sure what you want them to do there. We agree they need to do a better job casting vets and it shouldn't be repetitive but other than Turbo, Theo & Georgia there isn't a rookie from WOTW that is really missed IMO. Maybe Dee--maybe.
Obviously people decline or are problematic in production's eyes, but casting still chose to have 14 of their 15 vets this season be people who were just on last season, plus Amber coming in as a replacement. And of those 15 from last season, I believe 12 are doing at least their third straight. Amanda was by far the most exciting vet casting, and as great as she is a lot of that has to do with her coming back from a break. I'm tired of seeing the same people over and over and having Cory, Fessy & Kyle sliding to the end once again, likely just to lose to someone they knew was better than them again. WOTW 1 & 2 had amazing casts and were unpredictable, like look at team USA showing up to WOTW2 hating eachother and now these past couple have been the vets all teaming up together. We need some returns to mix things up, the whole 'long term soap opera' thing that used to be pushed more doesn't really work when everyone's friends
I agree. Casting champions of other shows give the challenge some legitimacy, especially from network shows like big brother and survivor with 10x the viewership of the challenge.
Wait I only found out about Survivor through The Challenge.. I have a hard time believing it has 10x the viewership lol
Is that even possible? lol I think when Tommy won almost 7M watched. So about 8x times the audience of The Challenge
Edit: Looked it up 6.52M live and over 8.5M including DVR so. The Challenge is typically around 900 k I believe
MTV is one of the few American channels I watch (since I don't live in America), so I'm not really in the know on what's hot over there, but the little I heard about Survivor made me think it's less interesting than The Challenge, so hearing that it's more peopular is really surprizing to me..
Gotcha--that makes more sense. Survivor is just different--I wouldn't say less interesting. Generally speaking, the game play on Survivor is much better and cutthroat because they don't plan on doing ever season for the next decade of their life. I'm not big on drama (especially fake drama) so Survivor is superior to be ALTHOUGH the twists lately have gotten out of hand.
Alright thanks for the clarification. And yes drama can be hit or miss on The Challenge but it gives the show some flavor at least. Nonethless, I'm a bit curious about Survivor now so maybe I'll check some clips out later and see if it can grab me to watch it.
Everyone that was a rookie on WOTW flopped, became problematic or walked away. Not sure what you want them to do there. We agree they need to do a better job casting vets and it shouldn't be repetitive but other than Turbo, Theo & Georgia there isn't a rookie from WOTW that is really missed IMO. Maybe Dee--maybe.
Obviously people decline or are problematic in production's eyes, but casting still chose to have 14 of their 15 vets this season be people who were just on last season, plus Amber coming in as a replacement. And of those 15 from last season, I believe 12 are doing at least their third straight. Amanda was by far the most exciting vet casting, and as great as she is a lot of that has to do with her coming back from a break. I'm tired of seeing the same people over and over and having Cory, Fessy & Kyle sliding to the end once again, likely just to lose to someone they knew was better than them again. WOTW 1 & 2 had amazing casts and were unpredictable, like look at team USA showing up to WOTW2 hating eachother and now these past couple have been the vets all teaming up together. We need some returns to mix things up, the whole 'long term soap opera' thing that used to be pushed more doesn't really work when everyone's friends
I agree with everything you said except the part where you said WOTW 2 was unpredictable. Aside from Team U.S. being messy as **** the first few episodes, the majority of the season was everyone in Team U.K. losing back to back and it got way too predictable from there. I enjoyed the cast and the drama even though Team U.K. could have had a better roster.
LMAOOO you are batshit insane. Winning a show does not make you a good casting choice. Tracy won her show I dont see you talking about how amazing she was.
"Im sorry that you're incapabale of admitting when you're wrong"
You literally defend a predator on this site every day. Its given delusion and hypocrisy.
Cry about Melissa being "complete trash". At least she was a good casting choice unlike Tommy
Have I ever said Tracy shouldn't have been cast or was bad casting?
Of course I defended Aneesa from the "cancel culture" crowd when LT DIDN'T CARE
Melissa is complete trash--hopefully she's a good mom now and leaves the act behind her.
It doesnt matter that Laterrian didnt care? How long before she does it to someone who does. Im sure she already has. He just happened to not care, its not like she asked for consent. She's done it to NUMEROUS people and that's predatory behaviour. Why the **** are you defending someone who actively seeks to look at people when they are showering? Its weird as ****.
Melissa is amazing. Queen stays delivering content and entertainment.
don't bring up her being a mom that's reslly weird KVM even for you
I wonder that all the time, but he's cheering for the right team so I just keep my mouth shut
It does matter. Like any sane self confident person he's not going to care. She doesn't need consent to be in a shared bathroom. I defend the law and you all continually make up stuff to fit your agenda.
Melissa added fake drama. If you fall for that good for you.
KVM never knows how to stay in their lane smh
i see kvm is still a garbage can
What? I said hopefully she's left that axt behind and focused on the kid. That's what all parents should do. Never said she didn't. This is part of the problem. You all don't read what is written but turn it into something it isn't. Words have meaning. Read them. Take them at face value.
I've always defend any parent for coming on the show. I've also consistently criticized those like Tony that didn't set a good example for his daughters once they were born. Actually I think Tony and Brad are the only two that deserve criticism.
Tone matters and you definitely gave off a wrong tone. Yes words matter but tone does as well
Anyways I'm just gonna leave KVM alone because they're about to not let it go
There's no tone I'm writing. It's your perception of what you believe exists. You twist to fit an agenda. When I criticize someone I'm direct. See why thoughts on Amanda being a hypocrite after getting knocked up my complete trash after criticizing other women for their relationships. I'm not going to sugarcoat it.
Ugh, I miss Graphik....He used to drag people so effortlessly.
MTV is one of the only American channels I watch (since I don't live in America), so I'm not really in the know on what's hot over there, but the little I heard about Survivor made me think it's less interesting than The Challenge, so hearing that it's more peopular is really surprizing to me..
Imma have to agree with you on that one whoever on here cries to the PR whenever someone doesn't agree with them shouldn't even be on here to begin eith......
They should bring Cochran on next season, since Survivor winners are the best casting choices ever. He actually won immunities too unlike Tommy. Give me him and Adam Klein and the Survivor takeover is in full swing
Gotcha--that makes more sense. Survivor is just different--I wouldn't say less interesting. Generally speaking, the game play on Survivor is much better and cutthroat because they don't plan on doing ever season for the next decade of their life. I'm not big on drama (especially fake drama) so Survivor is superior to be ALTHOUGH the twists lately have gotten out of hand.
My Melissa defense instincts coming in but I know better than to fall for bait hanging that low lmaoo
Also I lowkey want Fessy and Devin in a physical elimination soo bad it would be Fessy vs Jordan 2.0
Why not? Mike from Vegas made a final and I'd love to watch either of them get destroyed in Hall Brawl. We know they tried to get Todd Herzog so it would make sense for those 2 as well.
Give it up, Aneesa. For the love of God. Wes said it best, recently. And the regulars they keep casting on the show now are horrible. Nany needs to give it up too. Fessy is lame. Josh is insufferable. Enough of Cory too. Kaycee Clark has zero personality! wtf. She's the biggest mystery casting. Tori is boring. Ashley is literally the only entertaining regularly cast member of the show now. Having seen War of the Worlds recently, the show was so exciting. It had a real chance at a great new era. What the hell happened?
Everyone that was a rookie on WOTW flopped, became problematic or walked away. Not sure what you want them to do there. We agree they need to do a better job casting vets and it shouldn't be repetitive but other than Turbo, Theo & Georgia there isn't a rookie from WOTW that is really missed IMO. Maybe Dee--maybe.
Ehh. I Dunno about Cochran. I feel like he wouldn't last long at all on this show. Like he could probably get by on social game but given how he looks someone is calling him into elimination...especially if there's skulls and I see him only doing well in something with Puzzles or some off the wall shit.
You're right. *sigh* That was the best new class of rookies in so long and they started dropping like flies due to some weird circumstance. Sad when the vets being cast over and over are boring though. I haven't seen the Challenge come to this and I've been watching since the very first one.
And I disagree with all the people who find Josh entertaining. He's like hearing a child screaming and crying in a theater when you're trying to watch a movie. I can see he just wants camera time. He tries too hard and people like that don't entertain me. That's why I like when Wes shut him down when he thought he could try to make a Josh vs Wes storyline a thing for the show. lmao. Like he's worth it.
I'm pretty sure the Jenna Stan gets asked about her love for Amanda every couple of weeks lol
cochran's reality that show arc ended perfectly when he won. I wouldn't see the point of him trying a competition show again. I was glad he wasn't on winners at war, it might have tainted his image
Obviously people decline or are problematic in production's eyes, but casting still chose to have 14 of their 15 vets this season be people who were just on last season, plus Amber coming in as a replacement. And of those 15 from last season, I believe 12 are doing at least their third straight. Amanda was by far the most exciting vet casting, and as great as she is a lot of that has to do with her coming back from a break. I'm tired of seeing the same people over and over and having Cory, Fessy & Kyle sliding to the end once again, likely just to lose to someone they knew was better than them again. WOTW 1 & 2 had amazing casts and were unpredictable, like look at team USA showing up to WOTW2 hating eachother and now these past couple have been the vets all teaming up together. We need some returns to mix things up, the whole 'long term soap opera' thing that used to be pushed more doesn't really work when everyone's friends
Alright thanks for the clarification. And yes drama can be hit or miss on The Challenge but it gives the show some flavor at least. Nonethless, I'm a bit curious about Survivor now so maybe I'll check some clips out later and see if it can grab me to watch it.
Anyone who sends bad energy and bad will towards Amanda; I have set a protection spell to reverse it back
I agree with everything you said except the part where you said WOTW 2 was unpredictable. Aside from Team U.S. being messy as **** the first few episodes, the majority of the season was everyone in Team U.K. losing back to back and it got way too predictable from there. I enjoyed the cast and the drama even though Team U.K. could have had a better roster.
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