Y'all discredit Amanda... she could've won Invasion & Final Reckoning. Not to mention that she isn't bad at eliminations... she def not a weak competitor
Oh I wasn't discrediting her. I was pointing out how she could've made it to 2 finals if she wasn't so dumb by looking out for Ashley over herself
Invasion, yes. She should've positioned herself better given she was winning that elim before teaming up with Ashley, which was super impressive in itself.
FR, I just don't understand the argument. Was she supposed to give up her alliance that was controlling the whole game for Zach to get his way and protect the biggest finals threat in Bananas and Tony? Her options were to hold her ground, because she had the best alliance and would be setting herself up best to win, or give up and let Zach get his way and dismantle her alliance and let the biggest threat go further. She made the right choice, I don't blame her one bit for being stubborn in that one.
There's no way Amanda is a bigger threat to win than Tori
If they both were competing in individual finals against each other, you seriously think that? Tori doesn't have the goods (aka brains) for a final
Her thunder thighs also aint having her finish it either, I cant recall Tori ever showing she has strong endurance IMO
If that last photo of her is any indication of her current shape, it looks like she's been on that Aneesa workout plan of lifting a fork to her face and nothing else lol
She posted a workout video in March and she was looking the fittest she's ever been.
I think she's the favorite to win IF she takes a step back, doesn't underestimate people, and picked up her puzzle skills. I can't remember though, has she struggle in puzzles?
Let's not forget, Amanda has had a baby and we don't know how she's gonna come back physically. She was solid for her size and definitely a good runner (I think?) and above average mentally. She needs to watch out for herself first and foremost though, she can't stick her neck out for Ashley every time someone brings up her name.
Let us also remember this is sounding like pairs so that could make everything backwards.
There's no way Amanda is a bigger threat to win than Tori
If they both were competing in individual finals against each other, you seriously think that? Tori doesn't have the goods (aka brains) for a final
Her thunder thighs also aint having her finish it either, I cant recall Tori ever showing she has strong endurance IMO
If that last photo of her is any indication of her current shape, it looks like she's been on that Aneesa workout plan of lifting a fork to her face and nothing else lol
She posted a workout video in March and she was looking the fittest she's ever been.
I think she's the favorite to win IF she takes a step back, doesn't underestimate people, and picked up her puzzle skills. I can't remember though, has she struggle in puzzles?
Yes, very much so lol. She struggles with anything to do with thinking which is why I don't consider her a threat, especially in a final. When she got on her hands and knees to push through small pieces of plaster in her elim vs Jenna and when she couldn't figure out she needed momentum to pull over the bin of balls on her elim vs Aneesa, I realized just how dumb she is. I'm not saying that cause I don't like her, I genuinely think she's up there with Nicole with lack of brains/strategy. She also struggled in any puzzle she's been in, and math.
Y'all discredit Amanda... she could've won Invasion & Final Reckoning. Not to mention that she isn't bad at eliminations... she def not a weak competitor
Oh I wasn't discrediting her. I was pointing out how she could've made it to 2 finals if she wasn't so dumb by looking out for Ashley over herself
Invasion, yes. She should've positioned herself better given she was winning that elim before teaming up with Ashley, which was super impressive in itself.
FR, I just don't understand the argument. Was she supposed to give up her alliance that was controlling the whole game for Zach to get his way and protect the biggest finals threat in Bananas and Tony? Her options were to hold her ground, because she had the best alliance and would be setting herself up best to win, or give up and let Zach get his way and dismantle her alliance and let the biggest threat go further. She made the right choice, I don't blame her one bit for being stubborn in that one.
Well I can say with the money stealing twist it was best she didn't made it to the final. We know her and Zach would've won and he would've been the one to decide to keep it for himself
Y'all discredit Amanda... she could've won Invasion & Final Reckoning. Not to mention that she isn't bad at eliminations... she def not a weak competitor
Oh I wasn't discrediting her. I was pointing out how she could've made it to 2 finals if she wasn't so dumb by looking out for Ashley over herself
Invasion, yes. She should've positioned herself better given she was winning that elim before teaming up with Ashley, which was super impressive in itself.
FR, I just don't understand the argument. Was she supposed to give up her alliance that was controlling the whole game for Zach to get his way and protect the biggest finals threat in Bananas and Tony? Her options were to hold her ground, because she had the best alliance and would be setting herself up best to win, or give up and let Zach get his way and dismantle her alliance and let the biggest threat go further. She made the right choice, I don't blame her one bit for being stubborn in that one.
Let is not forget that rigging of the elimination for Cory/Devin, otherwise I think Zach and Amanda come and still have a chance to win.
Y'all discredit Amanda... she could've won Invasion & Final Reckoning. Not to mention that she isn't bad at eliminations... she def not a weak competitor
Oh I wasn't discrediting her. I was pointing out how she could've made it to 2 finals if she wasn't so dumb by looking out for Ashley over herself
Invasion, yes. She should've positioned herself better given she was winning that elim before teaming up with Ashley, which was super impressive in itself.
FR, I just don't understand the argument. Was she supposed to give up her alliance that was controlling the whole game for Zach to get his way and protect the biggest finals threat in Bananas and Tony? Her options were to hold her ground, because she had the best alliance and would be setting herself up best to win, or give up and let Zach get his way and dismantle her alliance and let the biggest threat go further. She made the right choice, I don't blame her one bit for being stubborn in that one.
Let is not forget that rigging of the elimination for Cory/Devin, otherwise I think Zach and Amanda come and still have a chance to win.
same with the WOTW1 elimination with Josh & Amanda... they could've won that too if production didn't change up the rules ( which is a rumor )
Y'all discredit Amanda... she could've won Invasion & Final Reckoning. Not to mention that she isn't bad at eliminations... she def not a weak competitor
Oh I wasn't discrediting her. I was pointing out how she could've made it to 2 finals if she wasn't so dumb by looking out for Ashley over herself
Invasion, yes. She should've positioned herself better given she was winning that elim before teaming up with Ashley, which was super impressive in itself.
FR, I just don't understand the argument. Was she supposed to give up her alliance that was controlling the whole game for Zach to get his way and protect the biggest finals threat in Bananas and Tony? Her options were to hold her ground, because she had the best alliance and would be setting herself up best to win, or give up and let Zach get his way and dismantle her alliance and let the biggest threat go further. She made the right choice, I don't blame her one bit for being stubborn in that one.
Let is not forget that rigging of the elimination for Cory/Devin, otherwise I think Zach and Amanda come and still have a chance to win.
same with the WOTW1 elimination with Josh & Amanda... they could've won that too if production didn't change up the rules ( which is a rumor )
is it a rumor though? plenty of the cast made it pretty clear on twitter I believe, and then there's actual footage on the show of Kam and Ashley doing exactly what they were told not to do lol seems pretty concrete to me
There's no way Amanda is a bigger threat to win than Tori
If they both were competing in individual finals against each other, you seriously think that? Tori doesn't have the goods (aka brains) for a final
Her thunder thighs also aint having her finish it either, I cant recall Tori ever showing she has strong endurance IMO
If that last photo of her is any indication of her current shape, it looks like she's been on that Aneesa workout plan of lifting a fork to her face and nothing else lol
She posted a workout video in March and she was looking the fittest she's ever been.
I think she's the favorite to win IF she takes a step back, doesn't underestimate people, and picked up her puzzle skills. I can't remember though, has she struggle in puzzles?
Yes, very much so lol. She struggles with anything to do with thinking which is why I don't consider her a threat, especially in a final. When she got on her hands and knees to push through small pieces of plaster in her elim vs Jenna and when she couldn't figure out she needed momentum to pull over the bin of balls on her elim vs Aneesa, I realized just how dumb she is. I'm not saying that cause I don't like her, I genuinely think she's up there with Nicole with lack of brains/strategy. She also struggled in any puzzle she's been in, and math.
I can't even remember her doing puzzles or math lmao. My mind is so shot because all the seasons blend together. I don't know if she's dumb or just gets in her head and can't take the step back to figure shit out.
Like I said, if she gets this shit figured out she is the number one vet in my eyes, but not until she does. Because we know puzzles can make or break performances and Ashley/Amanda are weaker physically, but mentally stronger. Who knows maybe Tori read some books and trained her brain lol.
Y'all discredit Amanda... she could've won Invasion & Final Reckoning. Not to mention that she isn't bad at eliminations... she def not a weak competitor
Oh I wasn't discrediting her. I was pointing out how she could've made it to 2 finals if she wasn't so dumb by looking out for Ashley over herself
Invasion, yes. She should've positioned herself better given she was winning that elim before teaming up with Ashley, which was super impressive in itself.
FR, I just don't understand the argument. Was she supposed to give up her alliance that was controlling the whole game for Zach to get his way and protect the biggest finals threat in Bananas and Tony? Her options were to hold her ground, because she had the best alliance and would be setting herself up best to win, or give up and let Zach get his way and dismantle her alliance and let the biggest threat go further. She made the right choice, I don't blame her one bit for being stubborn in that one.
Let is not forget that rigging of the elimination for Cory/Devin, otherwise I think Zach and Amanda come and still have a chance to win.
same with the WOTW1 elimination with Josh & Amanda... they could've won that too if production didn't change up the rules ( which is a rumor )
I don't even talk about this elimination anymore. It was said by someone, Josh maybe? That they were told they couldn't go back to back, but Kam and Ash did it after Josh and Amanda started struggling and nothing was said.
Once we find out the pairs (if it's pairs) and if they aren't changing partners, my opinion on strongest people will change. Also if there's ******* skulls or not.. ugh.
There's no way Amanda is a bigger threat to win than Tori
If they both were competing in individual finals against each other, you seriously think that? Tori doesn't have the goods (aka brains) for a final
Her thunder thighs also aint having her finish it either, I cant recall Tori ever showing she has strong endurance IMO
If that last photo of her is any indication of her current shape, it looks like she's been on that Aneesa workout plan of lifting a fork to her face and nothing else lol
She posted a workout video in March and she was looking the fittest she's ever been.
I think she's the favorite to win IF she takes a step back, doesn't underestimate people, and picked up her puzzle skills. I can't remember though, has she struggle in puzzles?
Yes, very much so lol. She struggles with anything to do with thinking which is why I don't consider her a threat, especially in a final. When she got on her hands and knees to push through small pieces of plaster in her elim vs Jenna and when she couldn't figure out she needed momentum to pull over the bin of balls on her elim vs Aneesa, I realized just how dumb she is. I'm not saying that cause I don't like her, I genuinely think she's up there with Nicole with lack of brains/strategy. She also struggled in any puzzle she's been in, and math.
I can't even remember her doing puzzles or math lmao. My mind is so shot because all the seasons blend together. I don't know if she's dumb or just gets in her head and can't take the step back to figure shit out.
Like I said, if she gets this shit figured out she is the number one vet in my eyes, but not until she does. Because we know puzzles can make or break performances and Ashley/Amanda are weaker physically, but mentally stronger. Who knows maybe Tori read some books and trained her brain lol.
she can "train" her brain all she wants, you can't fix stupid lol so unless she practices the exact puzzles/math she encounters on the season, I really don't think she has a shot. Physically, she's a threat, I'd rank her like 7 or 8/10. Mentally, she's like 2/10 lol
Y'all discredit Amanda... she could've won Invasion & Final Reckoning. Not to mention that she isn't bad at eliminations... she def not a weak competitor
Oh I wasn't discrediting her. I was pointing out how she could've made it to 2 finals if she wasn't so dumb by looking out for Ashley over herself
Invasion, yes. She should've positioned herself better given she was winning that elim before teaming up with Ashley, which was super impressive in itself.
FR, I just don't understand the argument. Was she supposed to give up her alliance that was controlling the whole game for Zach to get his way and protect the biggest finals threat in Bananas and Tony? Her options were to hold her ground, because she had the best alliance and would be setting herself up best to win, or give up and let Zach get his way and dismantle her alliance and let the biggest threat go further. She made the right choice, I don't blame her one bit for being stubborn in that one.
Let is not forget that rigging of the elimination for Cory/Devin, otherwise I think Zach and Amanda come and still have a chance to win.
same with the WOTW1 elimination with Josh & Amanda... they could've won that too if production didn't change up the rules ( which is a rumor )
I don't even talk about this elimination anymore. It was said by someone, Josh maybe? That they were told they couldn't go back to back, but Kam and Ash did it after Josh and Amanda started struggling and nothing was said.
i said rumor cs ion know how people felt about that elimination, personally it was rigged against Josh & Amanda
There's no way Amanda is a bigger threat to win than Tori
If they both were competing in individual finals against each other, you seriously think that? Tori doesn't have the goods (aka brains) for a final
Her thunder thighs also aint having her finish it either, I cant recall Tori ever showing she has strong endurance IMO
If that last photo of her is any indication of her current shape, it looks like she's been on that Aneesa workout plan of lifting a fork to her face and nothing else lol
She posted a workout video in March and she was looking the fittest she's ever been.
I think she's the favorite to win IF she takes a step back, doesn't underestimate people, and picked up her puzzle skills. I can't remember though, has she struggle in puzzles?
Yes, very much so lol. She struggles with anything to do with thinking which is why I don't consider her a threat, especially in a final. When she got on her hands and knees to push through small pieces of plaster in her elim vs Jenna and when she couldn't figure out she needed momentum to pull over the bin of balls on her elim vs Aneesa, I realized just how dumb she is. I'm not saying that cause I don't like her, I genuinely think she's up there with Nicole with lack of brains/strategy. She also struggled in any puzzle she's been in, and math.
I can't even remember her doing puzzles or math lmao. My mind is so shot because all the seasons blend together. I don't know if she's dumb or just gets in her head and can't take the step back to figure shit out.
Like I said, if she gets this shit figured out she is the number one vet in my eyes, but not until she does. Because we know puzzles can make or break performances and Ashley/Amanda are weaker physically, but mentally stronger. Who knows maybe Tori read some books and trained her brain lol.
she can "train" her brain all she wants, you can't fix stupid lol so unless she practices the exact puzzles/math she encounters on the season, I really don't think she has a shot. Physically, she's a threat, I'd rank her like 7 or 8/10. Mentally, she's like 2/10 lol
I'll just leave it at this, I think the partners are going to be determining factor on how the girls do. Amanda and Ashley need someone physically dominate to get to the final so they can win elims. Tori, Kaycee, and Amber need someone to pick up the slack mentally so they have a chance in the final. Those 5 are the only 5 vet girls I see with a chance, but whoever they're with is going to determine how they do imo.
Amanda and Ashley have a way better shot at winning the final IF they can get there, which is why I ranked them higher.
I really hope Amanda gets a strong partner; as many have said above, she has so many strengths, and I think she would be strong in a final, but she has to have that perfect pairing to help balance out some of her weaknesses. I would love to see her win.
I wonder how they'll pair up...randomly, top male/female who wins a daily? It'd be interesting if the rookies got to choose...
I just love how some of y'all give Tori the benefit of the doubt in a final, but act like Nelson can't win "because he can't solve a puzzle" when in reality, Nelson did decently well on the puzzle portions of the Invasion final. Cory would also win this season aswell.
I just love how some of y'all give Tori the benefit of the doubt in a final, but act like Nelson can't win "because he can't solve a puzzle" when in reality, Nelson did decently well on the puzzle portions of the Invasion final. Cory would also win this season aswell.
Imo depending on the format and what's in the final i think nelson, cory, and tori can all win a final
I could see this being a rennaisance season for Ashley. She not only has Amanda back, but most of the people that have been targeting her the last few seasons are not here. She's also been sucking up to the BB alliance so should escape the crossfire if that war breaks out.
I really hope Amanda gets a strong partner; as many have said above, she has so many strengths, and I think she would be strong in a final, but she has to have that perfect pairing to help balance out some of her weaknesses. I would love to see her win.
I just love how some of y'all give Tori the benefit of the doubt in a final, but act like Nelson can't win "because he can't solve a puzzle" when in reality, Nelson did decently well on the puzzle portions of the Invasion final. Cory would also win this season aswell.
didnt nelson and cory finish the puzzle in the purge against hunter... it took them a while granted lol but they solved it
Invasion, yes. She should've positioned herself better given she was winning that elim before teaming up with Ashley, which was super impressive in itself.
FR, I just don't understand the argument. Was she supposed to give up her alliance that was controlling the whole game for Zach to get his way and protect the biggest finals threat in Bananas and Tony? Her options were to hold her ground, because she had the best alliance and would be setting herself up best to win, or give up and let Zach get his way and dismantle her alliance and let the biggest threat go further. She made the right choice, I don't blame her one bit for being stubborn in that one.
She posted a workout video in March and she was looking the fittest she's ever been.
I think she's the favorite to win IF she takes a step back, doesn't underestimate people, and picked up her puzzle skills. I can't remember though, has she struggle in puzzles?
Kaycee and Tori are the top 2 female vets. Ashley 3rd just because she has history of winning multiple finals
Let's not forget, Amanda has had a baby and we don't know how she's gonna come back physically. She was solid for her size and definitely a good runner (I think?) and above average mentally. She needs to watch out for herself first and foremost though, she can't stick her neck out for Ashley every time someone brings up her name.
Let us also remember this is sounding like pairs so that could make everything backwards.
Yes, very much so lol. She struggles with anything to do with thinking which is why I don't consider her a threat, especially in a final. When she got on her hands and knees to push through small pieces of plaster in her elim vs Jenna and when she couldn't figure out she needed momentum to pull over the bin of balls on her elim vs Aneesa, I realized just how dumb she is. I'm not saying that cause I don't like her, I genuinely think she's up there with Nicole with lack of brains/strategy. She also struggled in any puzzle she's been in, and math.
Well I can say with the money stealing twist it was best she didn't made it to the final. We know her and Zach would've won and he would've been the one to decide to keep it for himself
Let is not forget that rigging of the elimination for Cory/Devin, otherwise I think Zach and Amanda come and still have a chance to win.
Kaycee and Tori who both can't do math or puzzles are the biggest threat to WIN? Emphasis on win lol.
They are likely to get to the final with this cast, but honestly I see a rookie beating them with their brains (or lack thereof).
same with the WOTW1 elimination with Josh & Amanda... they could've won that too if production didn't change up the rules ( which is a rumor )
is it a rumor though? plenty of the cast made it pretty clear on twitter I believe, and then there's actual footage on the show of Kam and Ashley doing exactly what they were told not to do lol seems pretty concrete to me
I can't even remember her doing puzzles or math lmao. My mind is so shot because all the seasons blend together. I don't know if she's dumb or just gets in her head and can't take the step back to figure shit out.
Like I said, if she gets this shit figured out she is the number one vet in my eyes, but not until she does. Because we know puzzles can make or break performances and Ashley/Amanda are weaker physically, but mentally stronger. Who knows maybe Tori read some books and trained her brain lol.
I don't even talk about this elimination anymore. It was said by someone, Josh maybe? That they were told they couldn't go back to back, but Kam and Ash did it after Josh and Amanda started struggling and nothing was said.
Once we find out the pairs (if it's pairs) and if they aren't changing partners, my opinion on strongest people will change. Also if there's ******* skulls or not.. ugh.
she can "train" her brain all she wants, you can't fix stupid lol so unless she practices the exact puzzles/math she encounters on the season, I really don't think she has a shot. Physically, she's a threat, I'd rank her like 7 or 8/10. Mentally, she's like 2/10 lol
i said rumor cs ion know how people felt about that elimination, personally it was rigged against Josh & Amanda
Lmao hope she gets a smart partner
I'll just leave it at this, I think the partners are going to be determining factor on how the girls do. Amanda and Ashley need someone physically dominate to get to the final so they can win elims. Tori, Kaycee, and Amber need someone to pick up the slack mentally so they have a chance in the final. Those 5 are the only 5 vet girls I see with a chance, but whoever they're with is going to determine how they do imo.
Amanda and Ashley have a way better shot at winning the final IF they can get there, which is why I ranked them higher.
Just hoping for no skill twist and no hall brawls so Nany, Ashley and Amanda can slide to the final together holding hands.
I really hope Amanda gets a strong partner; as many have said above, she has so many strengths, and I think she would be strong in a final, but she has to have that perfect pairing to help balance out some of her weaknesses. I would love to see her win.
I wonder how they'll pair up...randomly, top male/female who wins a daily? It'd be interesting if the rookies got to choose...
Keeping my eye on a male. Waiting to get confirmation
Do you know if CT is safe
I just love how some of y'all give Tori the benefit of the doubt in a final, but act like Nelson can't win "because he can't solve a puzzle" when in reality, Nelson did decently well on the puzzle portions of the Invasion final. Cory would also win this season aswell.
I don't like the fact that cause of the podcast tori/aneesa got to watch the final and see how amber performed
Imo depending on the format and what's in the final i think nelson, cory, and tori can all win a final
I could see this being a rennaisance season for Ashley. She not only has Amanda back, but most of the people that have been targeting her the last few seasons are not here. She's also been sucking up to the BB alliance so should escape the crossfire if that war breaks out.
Likely eliminated by Cory.
didnt nelson and cory finish the puzzle in the purge against hunter... it took them a while granted lol but they solved it
lmao you funny
the season literally just started yesterday... i doubt anyone's out right now.
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