The Challenge : Spies, Lies and Allies (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 2

Kvm really creates stuff in his brain and then presents them as facts. 

Were there more of Hughie and Corey fight in the house that wasn't aired? I remember PR said they were sent in a hotel

Y'all are acting like amber made it so much farther than Esther 

Jeremiah will come back. 

Y'all are acting like amber made it so much farther than Esther 

you have to admit, its still funny that the two people who sent her into an elimination with hughie went home before her

Theyre going to keep casting Corey for the same reason they keep casting kaycee.

I was going to say that im still liking this season better than double agents although ive just remembered they blurred CT's *** last week and now i think this season is worse lol

Y'all are acting like amber made it so much farther than Esther 

Amber not only came in late but she was a champ. Its impressive she lasted as long as she did.

 

Y'all are acting like amber made it so much farther than Esther 

Amber not only came in late but she was a champ. Its impressive she lasted as long as she did.

I'll give her that but her elimination with Hughie was a carnival game that anyone could've won. I'd say the same if big t won that

 

 

Y'all are acting like amber made it so much farther than Esther 

Amber not only came in late but she was a champ. Its impressive she lasted as long as she did.

I'll give her that but her elimination with Hughie was a carnival game that anyone could've won. I'd say the same if big t won that

Michele was known to be the puzzle queen on survivor yet got stuck on this one. It wasnt all just luck

 

Y'all are acting like amber made it so much farther than Esther 

Amber not only came in late but she was a champ. Its impressive she lasted as long as she did.

Not really it seems like she was first vet gone through elimination and not dq from game

 

 

Y'all are acting like amber made it so much farther than Esther 

Amber not only came in late but she was a champ. Its impressive she lasted as long as she did.

Not really it seems like she was first vet gone through elimination and not dq from game

well she was newest vet remaining, while the others have done a bunch of seasons together. She had no chance.

 

 

Y'all are acting like amber made it so much farther than Esther 

Amber not only came in late but she was a champ. Its impressive she lasted as long as she did.

I'll give her that but her elimination with Hughie was a carnival game that anyone could've won. I'd say the same if big t won that

....that wasn't a carnival game lmao. Equalizer yes but not carnival game

 

 

 

Y'all are acting like amber made it so much farther than Esther 

Amber not only came in late but she was a champ. Its impressive she lasted as long as she did.

Not really it seems like she was first vet gone through elimination and not dq from game

well she was newest vet remaining, while the others have done a bunch of seasons together. She had no chance.

fair, do we know how she gets sent in right after Esther ?

Priscilla has got nothing to do with the events happening yet gets so many confessionals. Production are clearly trying to make her a fan fav. I call it the Goergia Project. Goergia was set up to be a major star from day 1, that plan flopped bcuz MTV doesn't have a pair, so they go and search for someone similar to her but not "problematic'. In comes Gabby and she does okay but isn't close to what Goergia was serving, and now Gabby doesn't want to come back. Now Priscilla is their new attempt at replacing Goergia as that likaeble underdog character but she's lacking sauce.

 

Y'all are acting like amber made it so much farther than Esther 

Amber not only came in late but she was a champ. Its impressive she lasted as long as she did.

in a season where the vets revert to a strategy that vets been using since the conception of this show? Nah, it's not impressive at all. She's a chump but glad fessy didn't get his way

 

 

 

Y'all are acting like amber made it so much farther than Esther 

Amber not only came in late but she was a champ. Its impressive she lasted as long as she did.

I'll give her that but her elimination with Hughie was a carnival game that anyone could've won. I'd say the same if big t won that

Michele was known to be the puzzle queen on survivor yet got stuck on this one. It wasnt all just luck

Michele couldn't have done nothing with Corey as her partner. He's too big and just stood there barely helping and arguing with Hughie.

amber was smart picking devin, by doing that she created another rookie rookie team

I think we need to wait and see what changes they make before determining which rookies will be back.  Ed, Michaela and Michele are locks if they want to come back IMO.  Add Emy, Emmanuel, Berna, Priscilla, Esther and probably Logan/Kelz if they keep the internationals.  Maybe Hughie though I hope not.  This rookie class isn't adding much so I'm not seeing as many as you all see coming back.     

Lmaooo they aren't dropping international after that have been introduce already 

Clearly the ratings suggest they aren't worth keeping but, yeah, we'll almost definitely see some back unfortunately.  Hopefully the choose wisely and we don't get the next Kyle.

 

 

I think we need to wait and see what changes they make before determining which rookies will be back.  Ed, Michaela and Michele are locks if they want to come back IMO.  Add Emy, Emmanuel, Berna, Priscilla, Esther and probably Logan/Kelz if they keep the internationals.  Maybe Hughie though I hope not.  This rookie class isn't adding much so I'm not seeing as many as you all see coming back.     

Lmaooo they aren't dropping international after that have been introduce already 

Clearly the ratings suggest they aren't worth keeping but, yeah, we'll almost definitely see some back unfortunately.  Hopefully the choose wisely and we don't get the next Kyle.

They know it's not the only rookies fault lol There are multiple factors hitting their numbers not just for this show but all of their shows

Big brother is also on its lowest rated season which is another viacomcbs show

I think we need to wait and see what changes they make before determining which rookies will be back.  Ed, Michaela and Michele are locks if they want to come back IMO.  Add Emy, Emmanuel, Berna, Priscilla, Esther and probably Logan/Kelz if they keep the internationals.  Maybe Hughie though I hope not.  This rookie class isn't adding much so I'm not seeing as many as you all see coming back.     

Lmaooo they aren't dropping international after that have been introduce already 

Clearly the ratings suggest they aren't worth keeping but, yeah, we'll almost definitely see some back unfortunately.  Hopefully the choose wisely and we don't get the next Kyle.

They know it's not the only rookies fault lol There are multiple factors hitting their numbers not just for this show but all of their shows

Oh I agree--there's lots of factors but I'm not going to  pretend that going with 50% of the cast being new and random internationals isn't helping.  

amber was smart picking devin, by doing that she created another rookie rookie team

if only she thought of that on her own.

 

I think we need to wait and see what changes they make before determining which rookies will be back.  Ed, Michaela and Michele are locks if they want to come back IMO.  Add Emy, Emmanuel, Berna, Priscilla, Esther and probably Logan/Kelz if they keep the internationals.  Maybe Hughie though I hope not.  This rookie class isn't adding much so I'm not seeing as many as you all see coming back.     

Lmaooo they aren't dropping international after that have been introduce already 

Clearly the ratings suggest they aren't worth keeping but, yeah, we'll almost definitely see some back unfortunately.  Hopefully the choose wisely and we don't get the next Kyle.

its not necessarily the rookies fault that the ratings are horrible. imo the biggest reason the ratings are so bad this season is the time slot, it has too many competitors, big brother being one of them

PR do u think Amber will get a call back for future seasons? I think she brought a good amount of drama and stuff on her 2nd go and she did well

I wonder how Michele really feels about the Tori/Emanuel situation. She probably didn't see a future with him, but I wouldn't be surprised if her ego is a little bruised.

It's not that serious to most of these people. Michele went on to hook up with Fessy after the show too, didn't she? 

She and Amanda joked about it on a live once and they touched on it on the Aftermath. Amanda said something like "Fessy is like an appetizer - everybody just takes a piece, and you pass it along but you don't want too much."

 

PR do u think Amber will get a call back for future seasons? I think she brought a good amount of drama and stuff on her 2nd go and she did well

Depends on who accept she has never been a priority to them

What about Josh? 

Priscilla has got nothing to do with the events happening yet gets so many confessionals. Production are clearly trying to make her a fan fav. I call it the Goergia Project. Goergia was set up to be a major star from day 1, that plan flopped bcuz MTV doesn't have a pair, so they go and search for someone similar to her but not "problematic'. In comes Gabby and she does okay but isn't close to what Goergia was serving, and now Gabby doesn't want to come back. Now Priscilla is their new attempt at replacing Goergia as that likaeble underdog character but she's lacking sauce.

I feel like they are doing this with Emy more than Priscilla. Priscilla isnt as bubbly/silly/loud, plus all her confessionals are very similar which makes me wonder if she was the only ones who even understood what the Vet allience meant and talked about it lol.