The Challenge : Spies, Lies and Allies (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 2

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Tori is just another Kam.  Both will likely eventually win if they keep trying.  

As a reminder this is what people are pretending to be mad about while claiming I'm the problem.

 

Outside of physical aspects, when has Tori proven to be "great". We'll wait for it. 

XXX puzzle to reach the final--we can start there.  Or her gameplay on XXX as a rookie.

Even if she was great on Dirty 30, her gameplay since then has deteriorated. You're basing everything off of Dirty 30 as if she hasn't been on seasons post Dirty 30 lol. Also, didn't she have a partner in Jordan for that puzzle? She didn't have any gameplay on Dirty 30. Wasn't nobody checking for Tori, the most she did was cheat on her boyfriend. On a real note, folks was more threatened by Britni than they were of Tori, Tori got forgotten in the mix of Jailah vs Cara & Camila. 

Jordan didn't help her with the puzzle--it was individual.  She had to tell him he was missing a piece so he could beat Derrick.  You;re predictably wrong.

And what does cheating on her boyfriend have to do with this?

Because outside of beating Marie that's the only thing noteworthy she did on Dirty 30. 

 

tori doesnt have gameplay. Her best gameplay was playing both sides on her first season.

I love how youres super critical of Kams gameplay but tori has done NOTHING like Kam. NOTHING.

Tori's gameplay in XXX is better than any game play from Kam.  Kam has great ideas but never executes them

**** u be starting off good but then ur trolling becomes too visible.

tori doesnt have gameplay. Her best gameplay was playing both sides on her first season.

I love how youres super critical of Kams gameplay but tori has done NOTHING like Kam. NOTHING.

Tori's gameplay in XXX is better than any game play from Kam.  Kam has great ideas but never executes them

**** u be starting off good but then ur trolling becomes too visible.

It's is--Tori execute the XXX gameplan from beginning to end.  Kam screwed up on Double Agents at the end which is why she lost.

People were afraid of Britni, but not Tori? This is very funny Looool

Can and tori are both impressive and great in their own way. Not one is better than the other because no one has won. Argue with ya mom.'

Can and tori are both impressive and great in their own way. Not one is better than the other because no one has won. Argue with ya mom.'

Kam*

People were afraid of Britni, but not Tori? This is very funny Looool

I didn't say afraid, I said they were more threatened by Britni and had more focus on Britni which they did. Watch the season back. 

Corey lay is the first rookie to follow Amanda lol

It was lauren lol

Can and tori are both impressive and great in their own way. Not one is better than the other because no one has won. Argue with ya mom.'

Right yet that started a fight--people are just ridiculously childish

Our newest champ looks great omg

I could honestly see this being teams and set up with Kaycee, Nany, Nelson, and Tori losing. It is kinda weird they're all out with nobody else and that other team would definitely crush them in a final. I honestly think this makes the most sense of all the theories flying around.

Why would they have uneven sexes on teams? That makes no sense. CT wasn't with them in the airport last year either and the internationals probably had a different flight. There's also zero evidence that this was teams. Aren't you the one who gets on to us for wild speculation and then you throw out this mess?

People were afraid of Britni, but not Tori? This is very funny Looool

I didn't say afraid, I said they were more threatened by Britni and had more focus on Britni which they did. Watch the season back. 

You're wrong--Britni just wasn't working with them so she wasn't a number for them.  Tori outplayed Britni.  Maybe you need to watch it again

KVM you broke the rule about talking about someone that's not on the season. 

tori hasnt had any good gameplay since dirty 30 ****

KVM you broke the rule about talking about someone that's not on the season. 

I didn't--I compared someone on this season to another person because of the three flop nonsense then you all made it about Kam because that's what you do.  I'll continue to defend Tori when people can't admit she's on par with someone they like because of their stupidity/bias.

tori hasnt had any good gameplay since dirty 30 ****

She likely did this season

Might be unpopular and we honestly won't know for sure until the episodes air but I think this is going to be considered one of the best rookie classes of all time. Just based on spoilers there are so many people that can be brought back: Michele, Emy, Berna, Bettina, Logan, Emmanuel, Tacha, Michaela, Esther, Ed, Corey, etc.

Might be unpopular and we honestly won't know for sure until the episodes air but I think this is going to be considered one of the best rookie classes of all time. Just based on spoilers there are so many people that can be brought back: Michele, Emy, Berna, Bettina, Logan, Emmanuel, Tacha, Michaela, Esther, Ed, Corey, etc.

Just premature--there's some strong competition from YEARS ago.  

 

 

Outside of physical aspects, when has Tori proven to be "great". We'll wait for it. 

XXX puzzle to reach the final--we can start there.  Or her gameplay on XXX as a rookie.

Even if she was great on Dirty 30, her gameplay since then has deteriorated. You're basing everything off of Dirty 30 as if she hasn't been on seasons post Dirty 30 lol. Also, didn't she have a partner in Jordan for that puzzle? She didn't have any gameplay on Dirty 30. Wasn't nobody checking for Tori, the most she did was cheat on her boyfriend. On a real note, folks was more threatened by Britni than they were of Tori, Tori got forgotten in the mix of Jailah vs Cara & Camila. 

Jordan didn't help her with the puzzle--it was individual.  She had to tell him he was missing a piece so he could beat Derrick.  You;re predictably wrong.

And what does cheating on her boyfriend have to do with this?

Because outside of beating Marie that's the only thing noteworthy she did on Dirty 30. 

 

 

How is beating Marie note worthy, she isn't physically good at the game

Ok...we aren't going to disrespect the legendary Marie.

I am confused  maybe I'm thinking of another Marie then because the one from dirty 30 i can't remember her being strong (just my opinion)

I used to think Tori/Kam were around the same but after Tori's last few showings you can't deny Kam has passed her. I think Tori could maybe beat Kam in certain things (maybe even a final) but I'd still put my money on Kam 7/10. 

I'm guessing there allowed to post now. Logan's story and Corey L following lots of the cast 

 

I could honestly see this being teams and set up with Kaycee, Nany, Nelson, and Tori losing. It is kinda weird they're all out with nobody else and that other team would definitely crush them in a final. I honestly think this makes the most sense of all the theories flying around.

Why would they have uneven sexes on teams? That makes no sense. CT wasn't with them in the airport last year either and the internationals probably had a different flight. There's also zero evidence that this was teams. Aren't you the one who gets on to us for wild speculation and then you throw out this mess?

1. I've never gotten on anyone for speculation so, fix your confusion.

2. do you remember the War of the World 2 final? One team started with two girls, the other started with four.

3. "I could see it being teams.." is an opinion, I never said there was evidence.

LOL at the person who's first post said "don't argue with me I don't care" then them going on and on, obviously caring. We just need the final results so we can move onto actual conversations that add to this site lol.

Berna thinking Nelson is going to see her and he's in ibiza tgvbhbbjhhhh 

LOL at the person who's first post said "don't argue with me I don't care" then them going on and on, obviously caring. We just need the final results so we can move onto actual conversations that add to this site lol.

I swear they do that every time lol

I am confused  maybe I'm thinking of another Marie then because the one from dirty 30 i can't remember her being strong (just my opinion)

We are talking about The American Gladiator Marie Rhoda.

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