The Challenge : Spies, Lies and Allies (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 2

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If we all started rooting for ct would KVM start rooting against him?

If we all started hating Kam KVM would become a Kam fan 

Again, I'm fine with Kam winning.  I don't like Kam's arrogance.  Just like I don't like Ashley's arrogance.  Or John's arrogance.  Or Zach's arrogance.

But he loves Tori's arrogance lol

Tori's attitude the last 2 seasons needs to change--I've said that throught.  When Tori calls herself "queen Tori" you let me know.

would u hate it if kam called her queen tori ? 

 

Did Amanda get knocked up by a drug addict while unwed?   Yes or no?

Do you all need a link to his social media to determin if Amanda should have ever lowered her standards to date him?

One thing I know for sure is that before things went sour, he treated her like a queen and she looked genuinely happy on social media. That's all that matters is that she was happy and tried starting a family. We don't know what else happened behind the scenes. Was he a good choice in the end? No, but for a while he was and just like a lot of relationships.. it fell apart. She's still a good person, she works hard in a difficult profession, and she seems like a **** of a mother.

Did Amanda get knocked up by a drug addict while unwed?   Yes or no?

Do you all need a link to his social media to determin if Amanda should have ever lowered her standards to date him?

"While unwed"...lol it aint 1962 anymore.

Getting pregnant while unmarried to a drug addict is not a good life decision.  I don't care if people have kids out of wedlock if it's planned but let's not pretend that was planned.  She ****** up--well, he probably ****** up

Tori has never come off as "arrogant" to me, just confidence or trying to fake confidence to boost herself up. But I'm also very competitive and come off confident and that might seem arrogant at times too so maybe I just relate to it.

If we all started rooting for ct would KVM start rooting against him?

If we all started hating Kam KVM would become a Kam fan 

Again, I'm fine with Kam winning.  I don't like Kam's arrogance.  Just like I don't like Ashley's arrogance.  Or John's arrogance.  Or Zach's arrogance.

But he loves Tori's arrogance lol

Tori's attitude the last 2 seasons needs to change--I've said that throught.  When Tori calls herself "queen Tori" you let me know.

would u hate it if kam called her queen tori ? 

Yes

praying for results so we can stop the dumb fighting 

lmaoooo full of shit

i can't believe this shit

Did Amanda get knocked up by a drug addict while unwed?   Yes or no?

Do you all need a link to his social media to determin if Amanda should have ever lowered her standards to date him?

One thing I know for sure is that before things went sour, he treated her like a queen and she looked genuinely happy on social media. That's all that matters is that she was happy and tried starting a family. We don't know what else happened behind the scenes. Was he a good choice in the end? No, but for a while he was and just like a lot of relationships.. it fell apart. She's still a good person, she works hard in a difficult profession, and she seems like a **** of a mother.

Agreed with the mom part and difficult professsion part.  I never seen anything that makes her seem like "a good person" on the show.  And any relationship can work briefly.  If you can't see the big picture you're going to look stupid in the end as she does.  Was she unware of his past?

praying for results so we can stop the dumb fighting 

Or people can just stop trying to blindly defend Amanda while attacking Tori...

praying for results so we can stop the dumb fighting 

The dumb fighting will jut turn into normal fighting about people sucking, people being flops, rigged finals (ridiculous), who should never come back, who held who back, how they let CT win again, what this persons social media activity says about how they did, etc.

lol

KVM who would you rather be partners with on a challenge tommy or tori 

KVM who would you rather be partners with on a challenge tommy or tori 

hed prefer being spit roasted by the two of them

 

edit: with aneesa watching of course

 

Did Amanda get knocked up by a drug addict while unwed?   Yes or no?

Do you all need a link to his social media to determin if Amanda should have ever lowered her standards to date him?

One thing I know for sure is that before things went sour, he treated her like a queen and she looked genuinely happy on social media. That's all that matters is that she was happy and tried starting a family. We don't know what else happened behind the scenes. Was he a good choice in the end? No, but for a while he was and just like a lot of relationships.. it fell apart. She's still a good person, she works hard in a difficult profession, and she seems like a **** of a mother.

Agreed with the mom part and difficult professsion part.  I never seen anything that makes her seem like "a good person" on the show.  And any relationship can work briefly.  If you can't see the big picture you're going to look stupid in the end as she does.  Was she unware of his past?

She has shown a really good genuine side on her shows, and that she has a good heart with the people she cares about (too much). People makes choices in life when things are good and when they're young, let us not forget she's someone who's spent her entire 20s on reality tv.

Maybe she made bad choices, maybe there were some accidents, but that's life. She'll learn and continue being a good mom and a good nurse but putting her down because of a "mistake" that resulted in her having a child isn't a good look.

Gamer said we're probably gonna get something next week

A week?!?

Y'all got jobs?

Y'all got jobs?

No 

 

Gamer said we're probably gonna get something next week

A week?!?

i took what gamer said as like the season/cast announcement being next week

 

Gamer said we're probably gonna get something next week

A week?!?

Someone asked when the season would start, he said he expects new next week. Not the winners but hopefully means just MTV announcing it or gamer/PR hearing an air date.

Y'all always lose me when you try to compare these people's moral and personal decisions. Most of them decided to sign their lives to MTV in their early 20s. We know they don't always make the best decisions or are good examples of morality. That's what helps make them interesting characters and that's why these types of "stan" arguments are worthless. It's like watching two stubborn politicians go back and forth. 

 

KVM who would you rather be partners with on a challenge tommy or tori 

hed prefer being spit roasted by the two of them

 

edit: with aneesa watching of course

And you wonder why I made the childish comment

I would pick to be partners with either of them.  I have no idea what Tommy can do.   Give me some options to pick from for the women...

Did Amanda get knocked up by a drug addict while unwed?   Yes or no?

Do you all need a link to his social media to determin if Amanda should have ever lowered her standards to date him?

Did Tori **** every guy while she was engaged and also while she was with her ex?

Nobody hates Tori because she's a good competitor she's literally just annoying??

I think Tori for sure won. Maybe we are reading too much into but PR new profile picture being Tori and Tori posting that a little too happy picture, in my book, reads as a Tori win. 

Nobody hates Tori because she's a good competitor she's literally just annoying??

Nobody hates Tori because she's a good competitor she's literally just annoying??

And an escort

Im curious what the actual elims will be like this season, all i know is it better not be 30+ games of hall brawl again....i always enjoyed balls in as a physical elim wayyy more and its been a few seasons since weve seen that so bring that back

KVM would you pick to be partners with tori or amber b 

 

Nobody hates Tori because she's a good competitor she's literally just annoying??

And an escort

Agreed. Kaycee is dead silent probably bawling her eyes out on another flop 2nd place lol

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