The Challenge : Spies, Lies and Allies (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 2

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Half of the vets still in game would've been flung by now had Skulls been injected in the picture

Would have been interesting of this season had been Double Agents with all these rookies.

 

I'd rather Bananas win again than Tori win once LOL.

She has y'all that bothered? I don't  like her but if she won I'd feel whatever about it 

Ya'll really asking for skulls back as if it didn't give us 2 of the worst seasons of all time lol

I'd rather see a rookie massacre than the politics and drama around the gameplay completely taken out of play for everyone

They really just need a few big controversial personalities to fix the casting, like throw in Amanda/Cara/Laurel/Paulie/Jor*an/Georgia for S38 and it will most likely be an entertaining season.

These rookies will just have to learn their lesson this time around and hopefully come back with some better gameplay for 38

i agree. skulls never need to come back and we better be THANKFUL they aren't here this season.

Boring Season with a unpredictable boot order >>>>>> boring season with a predictable boot order 

But then again that's just what I prefer time will tell where 38 goes 

They need to bring back free agents!  That kill card evened things out.  It was luck of draw not to go into elimination.  Aka Jonny Reilly 

skulls clearly need to come back if none of the vets are willing to turn on eachother because its literally just going to be like that for every season to come which is awful.

Nah the Free Agents format wasn't that great, like it was nice that no one was comfortable and alliances couldn't really succeed, but the only reason that season was as entertaining as it was was because of the cast. Something like the double cross is much more exciting than the kill card because there's actually a layer of gameplay there aside from daily winners voting people in.

Yall are overreacting. Skulls do not need to come back. They need to fix these shitty *** formats. WOTW had 5/8 finalists as rookies. There were easy solutions to a rookie m***acre. 

do yall think season 40 will be an all winners season or like an all vets and no rookies season or just a normal season?

They need to bring back free agents!  That kill card evened things out.  It was luck of draw not to go into elimination.  Aka Jonny Reilly 

Kill card was actually unfair for the most part. It benefited the worst players which is why Johnny R and Devyn made it to the finals really easily.

In some games where their was multiple teams the worst teams would be apart of the draw so they'd be unable to be thrown in by winner's vote but the mid ranked teams were at the mercy of the winner's votes. You were better off coming in last place than coming in second place in a half of the games that season.

This format isnt even bad, it allows for multiple oppurtunity's for the vets to be sent in all season, if anything its the cast

Skulls need to stay out. I appreciate the twist in voting people in different pairs but that's just easily too exploitable by the vets. The season would probably be way different if pairs always went in together in elim.

this season could of been all vets being eliminated first but the rookies were too dumb to do that

skulls clearly need to come back if none of the vets are willing to turn on eachother because its literally just going to be like that for every season to come which is awful.

last place going into elimination is the answer and the winner picking the other. it 1. prevents people from throwing dailies and 2. makes people compete and politic

This format isnt even bad, it allows for multiple oppurtunity's for the vets to be sent in all season, if anything its the cast

this season could of been all vets being eliminated first but the rookies were too dumb to do that

Yes because rookies that have probably barely seen the show and dont know anything about eachother at all, ontop of a majoirty having a veteran as a partner who has multiple allies that they think might save them really allows for the rookies to thrive.

this season could of been all vets being eliminated first but the rookies were too dumb to do that

Logan and Emanual were both said to have won dailies and still put in rookies so we'll just have to see how they navigated the house. If 3 rookies still managed to get in with the vets and they survive, I'll be impressed with them tbh

I'd rather see 3 rookies snake their way through than 20 rookies send home all the vets as if that also wouldn't be boring

Oh this is a amazing format I personally love it but I wish it was done either with a different cast or in a earlier season. Whoever had the idea to cast so many vets from the same season shouldn't even have a job 

 

this season could of been all vets being eliminated first but the rookies were too dumb to do that

Yes because rookies that have probably barely seen the show and dont know anything about eachother at all, ontop of a majoirty having a veteran as a partner who has multiple allies that they think might save them really allows for the rookies to thrive.

 if your going on a show to win a million dollars and you had a whole 10 days of extra quarentine why would you not watch the show, the vets got rookies to turn on each other so why couldnt thhe rookies do the same 

No skulls next season would work if they actually bring back the rookies from this season. Its almost like they dont want organic-history based drama anymore 

 

 

this season could of been all vets being eliminated first but the rookies were too dumb to do that

Yes because rookies that have probably barely seen the show and dont know anything about eachother at all, ontop of a majoirty having a veteran as a partner who has multiple allies that they think might save them really allows for the rookies to thrive.

 if your going on a show to win a million dollars and you had a whole 10 days of extra quarentine why would you not watch the show, the vets got rookies to turn on each other so why couldnt thhe rookies do the same 

the vets got rookies to turn on eachother because of allegiances the vets had. The rookies probably dont know anybody else, they are meeting a majority of the cast for the first time why would they work with somebody they dont know over their partner who they believe they can trust.

the rookies that are left played amazing but im talking about marjority. i would of loved to see rookies vs vets, and having rookies and vets being eliminated not just rookies

 

 

this season could of been all vets being eliminated first but the rookies were too dumb to do that

Yes because rookies that have probably barely seen the show and dont know anything about eachother at all, ontop of a majoirty having a veteran as a partner who has multiple allies that they think might save them really allows for the rookies to thrive.

 if your going on a show to win a million dollars and you had a whole 10 days of extra quarentine why would you not watch the show, the vets got rookies to turn on each other so why couldnt thhe rookies do the same 

It sounds like they tried and it didn't work out. That's part of the game sometimes. It sounds like Kelz (who also wouldn't break the rules on his original show) probably was the first to turn on Michaela and it all just snowballed from there. 

Emy was said to probably be a guys' girl so she might've also flipped to the vets, and Logan and Emanual won dailies like I said and seemingly still turned on rookies. If anything, even though the rookies got massacred, I think that it's going to be super messy and the rookies should be getting a lot of screen time. 

It will suck for this season that they all took each other out, but I think we'll see a lot of messy regulars from this crop of rookies.

 

 

 

this season could of been all vets being eliminated first but the rookies were too dumb to do that

Yes because rookies that have probably barely seen the show and dont know anything about eachother at all, ontop of a majoirty having a veteran as a partner who has multiple allies that they think might save them really allows for the rookies to thrive.

 if your going on a show to win a million dollars and you had a whole 10 days of extra quarentine why would you not watch the show, the vets got rookies to turn on each other so why couldnt thhe rookies do the same 

the vets got rookies to turn on eachother because of allegiances the vets had. The rookies probably dont know anybody else, they are meeting a majority of the cast for the first time why would they work with somebody they dont know over their partner who they believe they can trust.

they had there phone for 10 days theres something called social media they could of teamed up

Those that want skulls back are probably also those that haven't watched anything prior to WOTW1, with skulls there is next to no drama surrounding deliberation and voting where in the past thats where we have gotten both great strategic gameplay and great fights

for example: Veronica on both The Ruins and Dirty 30, evelyn getting voted in against kellyanne, nia going off on nicotine nany, etc etc etc

i think people are just mad that all the rookies went out first and then want to act like the rookies dont have a brain

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